The Battle on the Ice 1242 AD 

blitzwaffe they're sounds and music from Total War Atilla, that game certainly gives you the immersion for when the huns are ransacking your provinces.

Total War Attilla... The one game where you hope to see your cities capatured or looted, just to avoid them being burned to the ground XD

@@Cancoillotteman I deinstalled the game after the huns in 9 of my 10 successfull fun-to-play campaigns started to turn western europe into a nuclear wasteland. Seriously who needs nuclear bombs when you have a stack of fucking horsearchers killing 90% of europes population?

@@aramhalamech4204 you mean Huns...

@@sosig6445 yeah sorry

There are no Americans or Brits in it. Plus eastern Europeans would have to be portrayed as the "good guys" and we can't have that in Hollywood.

except when they are fighting nazis

Pretty much all slavic regions seem to be all but forgotten in general european history. I guess there's still residue of the old "those are just barbarians"-thinking.

Nothing important happened

On the bright side, Peter the Great westernized and modernisation of Russia paid off.

kareem hashimi more like a natural disaster than an army.

Horde comes from word Urdu/Ordo. Meaning army. Turko-mongolic in origin. Turkish military's war college is called Urdu (college). In EU4 turkish infantry regiments are named something like "ordusu" Afghanistan's army is called afghan milli Urdu, afghan national army, State language of Pakistan is called Urdu, from "Urdu=i=Mu'alla' (High Urdu), language of the mughal officer class of mixed origins.

It was just unstoppable for any of the Russian principalities or any nomadic tribes it met before. In a matter of fact Mongolian Empire just absorbed a vast nomadic population of Central Asian and what is now Southern Russian steppes. The only reason Mongol invasion did not come further to the Europe is that they simultaneously ran out of nomads to absorb (and recruit replacement for the fighting force from) and really good landscape to feed horses (well, those two factors are obviously connected). But since 14th century nd up to late 15th century Russians did not consider Mongols as an enemy at all. All the Russian military efforts were put to oppose Lithuania, Poland, Livonian Order and so on. Simply because it was doable and opposing Mongols was not.

براہمداغ yes we called ordu=army ordusu=his army

@@comNartheus Nazarikov from Nazar more like Tatar surname not slavic

its Russia! even Womans have beard!

I do not know about American Women, I'm not Yankee, but I know there's only one female thing in Russia, the Name Russia.

No sir I must correct you; a very impressive 16 year old for a beard. Get hairy 1242/2017

Russian women has no beard, they hot

It depends on your genetics some people have a mustache at 12 xD

Whats this? A crossover episode?

No, no, no, just commented as a viewer, there was no crossover. :-)

I like your videos better. They are more dynamic and entertaining.

Hello again Kings&Generals good to see you here.

Kings and Generals hallo :D

Tyrranid invasion

Dothraki?

Mongols were terrifying

Oblivion Almost every faction/people group spreads like a virus if given the opportunity, the mongols just did it the best.

Yeah I legit felt scared watching that

Yes!..Saw it on PBS as a kid in the 70's.

A very inaccurate portrayal, to be sure. Still a great work of cinema, and extremely effective Soviet propaganda.

my only knowledge of this battle prior to watching this video was from the movie "Alexander Nevsky" directed by Sergei Eisenstein, with wonderful musical score by Sergei Prokofiev. I already knew the music before I ever saw the movie, because of my roommate second semester freshman year at Purdue University, who opened my eyes to an incredible diversity of wonderful music. He was a remarkable guy, and I'm so grateful to him). but then at the end of that year I transferred to the University of Michigan, which had a lot more opportunities for cultural experiences, including several film series, which showed classic films essentially every night of the week. This was how I was able finally to see Alexander Nevsky, which I saw multiple times. Alexander Nevsky had a lot of anti-christian imagery, as the prevailing communist government in the Soviet Union at the time the movie was made was trying to undermine the influence of the church (You know, religion being the opiate of the people, and all that). So during the Battle on the Ice, when the Teutonic Knights were in the process of being defeated, there were images of Christian crosses falling before Alexander Nevsky's sword. but the most memorable part of the film was when the Teutonic Knights and their horses were so heavy that they began to break through the ice and fall to their death by drowning. It was almost like an Act of God, except that it obviously couldn't have been the Christian God who was responsible. Perhaps it was the spirit of Karl Marx (although he would not be born for another 600 years). I don't know! In any case, I was stunned to get to the end of the present video with nary a mention of the Teutonic Knights breaking through the ice and drowning. What??!! Am I to understand that this is just a myth, like Pharaoh's army drowning in the Red Sea? Someone please tell me that this detail was simply omitted accidentally. And am I to suppose that there was no baby carriage careering down the Odessa steps during the mutiny of the Battleship Potemkin as well??!! In any case, I recommend Prokofiev's magnificent score to anyone.

@@MendTheWorld somewhere in a box I have the soundtrack on a cassette......It was outstanding music.....

​@@MendTheWorld I don’t understand where you saw anti-Christian propaganda in the film, especially when you consider that at the end in the scene of triumph, Orthodox churches and Russian banners with Jesus Christ and Archangels shown there. Eisenstein's film is pure anti-fascist (anti-Nazi) propaganda, you can watch the swastika on the clothes of German bishops, and the helmets of German infantry are very similar to the helmets of Wehrmacht soldiers. The crusaders in the film are represented as typical pseudo religious invaders, for whom religion is just a cover for their predatory policies, they were dangerous cultural and existential threat of medieval Russia. Incidentally, the operation of Barbarossa was supported by many in Europe as a crusade against atheists and Jewish Bolsheviks, including by the Pope and Catholic church. And i’m not even talking about the inscriptions on the belts of Nazis soldiers "Gott mit Uns" (God is with us), which did not stop them from commiting their atrocities and crimes against the Soviet people and did not help them win. By and large, this film is not about the events of the medieval history of Russia, but about the events that will happen a little later, in 1941-1945. This is symbolic (and yes, in many respects, propagandistic) cinema, which foresaw further events. Therefore, the film itself can be perceived as a historical monument of the Great Patriotic War (World War II). P.S. In addition, I did not find any falling crosses from the sword of Alexander, there is only one scene with a Teutonic camp falling at the hands of militias, on the roof of which there was a cross. If you are talking about crosses depicted on the armor and shields of the crusaders, then all claims and questions to them, and not to Eisenstein.

Pskov managed to field only finnic chuds (setos). They were saying 'nukke', which would mean "puppet them". translate.google.com/#fi/en/nukke That would be fitting, because in 1240-41, Pskov was puppeted.

Wait! Vikings didn't have nukes! 🤯

No MacArthur, it's not even the correct time period for that

@@kohtalainenalias ?

@@kohtalainenalias ?

I know, right? The narrator really does speak beautifully.

3.47 get a load of how he pronounces "incorporated" . It's marvellous, although the "in" seems to get lost up his nose but the rest comes out well buttered.

He speaks ansum enough, but to me sounds nz ish, not Received Pronunciation.

I believe it's mentioned in the other vids that he's South African. But totally agree, lovely voice to listen to

Amanda Suttner thank you. I wonder how I managed to miss that? I ❤️ accents.

we should cuz it give him money by making video and he will be happy cuz he get money and we happy cuz we see the video and might even be happy at the product they advertise too YAY!!! ps. i live in the world with sunshine and rainbow

I wish the gold was real

I think Daniel Avidan said it best; "It's easy to call someone a sellout when you live with your parents and got everything figured out... Like... I got medicine bills, man."

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KirkSolo : ya

jklahsd32 laksd13 never thought I’d be happy about ads, but in this case I concur.

Erdenesaikhan Amarsaikhan And there you can find a crusader calling for its mate, as it is mating season. > The Camera turns to a Crusader in full chain mail armour screaming at the top of his lungs:"Deus Vult! Deus Vult!".

After hearing the passionate call of the young Teuton, the Livonian knight carefully inches his way towards him so as to ascertain his interest in purging heresy from Eastern Europe.

Khan of Khans Spotting the Livonian Knight and recognizing a mate, the Teuton strides towards the backside of its mate and whispers in its ear:"I heard you need help with pagans." This arouses the Livonian immensely.

The Teuton and the Livonian thus begin an elaborate mating ritual that involves penetrating the lands of heathens, delivering a deadly thrust to pagan power and the forceful conversion of local populations.

Khan of Khans Then they were rudely interrupted by Novogorodian Princes. The Teuton tries to attack but midway sets up camp giving the Novogorodians to easily send him back. The Livonian is in shock and rallies forces only to be vanquished by a raiding party 5,000 men strong.

Cekachev It's 13th century you fool xD .

Knew I'd find someone else who found it funny

@@deamonomic I didn't.

@@oliverludwig6148 nothing wrong with not sharing the same sense of humor. We dont all need to find ot funny

black ops hell Yea!

preach

The mongols didn't document anything really, so all me know about them is what others wrote.

and since they won the battles...

we are technically, genetically, a part of the mongol race since genghis eradicated the adult male population. And yeah, the winners write the history, and genghis is not in there really, except for the reputation, because he assimilated all of his tribes into other coutries cultures...and so we just dont really know HOW he did what he did. It would be difficult, for example, to find a modern homo sapiens without genghis khan genes. Anyone care to comment on the ''mongolian flap''?

3:08 I think this might be the Battle of Saule.

Really butt if that's true they should have said that people of the Latvian tribes helped them out

It might also not be the Battle of Saule and I am just mistaken. But the location kinda fits.

Maybe😕

15.05 The local tribes (lithuan) formed a rebellion to expel the livonian order, 60 years befoe finally converting to christianity.

You might like to check out Dan Carlin's "wrath of the Khan" - top quality content.

Nikhil Patil the kings and generals channel has one

The hordes were always a problem, ever since Cyrus the Great and before

Mongols were kicked out by russia

@EightFootSativa No it didn't. It separated after Möngke died.

@@taskforceknight9336 they were very weakened when that happened

To live on the step you must gain a culture in which you live to fight. Europian step nomads where just as fearsome as the asian ones if not more. The reason the mongols conquered so much so fast is because they did something that was never deone before or after, they united the tribes and brought the imense war power to bear against settled civilizations not each other.

Alex Cayrouse He will destroy those Bolton and Frey bastards!

THE MANNIS!

Night Lamp theory ftw!

One Realm! One God! One King!

Lannister will pay the price!

Novgorod had knights too, namely the Druzhina. It's just knights crush knights.

Simeon Monev Update & Hyped for this!

“Whatever doubts his lords might nurse, the common men seemed to have faith in their king. Stannis had smashed Mance Rayder’s wildlings at the Wall and cleaned Asha and her ironborn out of Deepwood Motte; he was Robert’s brother, victor in a famous sea battle off Fair Isle, the man who had held Storm’s End all through Robert’s Rebellion. And he bore a hero’s sword, the enchanted blade Lightbringer, whose glow lit up the night.” - ADWD, Chapter 42, The King’s Prize What did ugly bastard of dreadfort know anything? The prince who was promised at ice wall.

#NightLamp

If you think about it, the Mongols are the White Walkers, the Teutonic order is the Lannister Dynasty

@@duckboiii4441 Wildlings: refugees from eastern Europe (escaping from White Walkers like Ruthenians and Balts from Mongols and German orders to Poland or Hungary) White Walkers: Mongols attacking every village or city on they road Stannis with his army: prince Aleksander and his army prepearing to fight with the Order Freys: Germans (And comparing great houses like Lannisters to some dynsties or orders is pointless because situation like Game of Thrones were in many countries in medieval if country was breakdown of the district)

What a shamefur dispray!

Cowslippoetry what shall we do to the prisoners? 1. Release them (gain chivalry) 2. Ransom them (gain money) 3. Execute them (gain dread)

The estonian auxilliarys didnt want to die for their occupiers and would have probably sided with the russians when given a choice

My rord a grorious victory will soooon be youuurs!

@@dariusgreysun Oh I see you are a man of high culture as well!

this is not what eu4 has taught us

Amalion you guys get no love, do you?!

Not to mention his majestic beard!

But nobles were raised from birth to be commander and politicians. Also remember that propaganda existed even then.

Also his name was Alexander apparently anyone with that name is a military genius.

Amir Nozari yea, he was pretty Great.

He won a battle where he had the bigger, better disciplined army and that makes him the greatest warrior? I think I can already guess where you are from.

Wehrmacht also raped and killed. Soviets did.it as a way of getting revenge on the Germans

Wanderer628 true dat

RUSH B BLYAT URAA!!!!!! *soviet national athem earrape play in the back ground*

LordPinochetUTTP no just no

Actually the next battle on ice was at around 1263 near the Muhu island. Russians were not involved.

Its been 5 years, this comment is still relevant.

I hoped to find a fellow man of culture. i succeeded. And yes it is already five long years ago …

LMAOOOO

Monsieur Pepe I know right? What gets me is the reserve force almost always chickens out when they could have been the decisive blow that could have ended the fight favorably

@@Old_Guard2 maybe they should put the worser troops in the front so the more experienced troops in reserve don't run away lol

It's just that these more dynamic battles are more interesting to make videos about. Most battles in the early medieval times end quite quickly if heavy cavalry is involved.

There are also the ones like Brunabruh or Maldon, where the two lines of infantry just slam into each other and after some time one of them emerges victorious.

Kasper Nielsen Mobile games are just dumb in general, fee are worth the time are fewer are worth money.

Which City?

держи в курсе, им это очень интересно)

Lovely comment! Nice to see some pride for one's home

Hey. Should have been more specific. I just assumed that it would be clear, considering that Alexander and Novgorod are the central figures in this event. Historically my family is from all over the region (and Nizhegorodskaya oblast' as well), yet I have spent more time in Novgorod and the South of Russia for some reason. :) Where are you from?

I do not know what you mean... I know that a lot of historians tend to break the actual events through the prism of nationalistic subjectivity and often such a bend of history becomes widely accepted. Could you be more specific, please!?

Hungary defeated Mongols before Rus.

Kiff, show them the medal I won

There is a film about which I believe is the earliest source of that particular myth.

It was reported that _some_ did. How many is unclear. It was also reported that the center did not give in so easily because there was a rock behind it. I.e. it did give in - the militia couldn't possibly stand a heavy knights attack - but the knights found themselves not on an operational space, but facing an unpassable rock.

according to the Russians some did.

It's disgusting imho.. So many people murdered to spread shit religions. Unimaginable numbers. Europe had a lot of pagans, nothing was allowed but Catholic religion. Don't think that even 5% is documented... or even less, and yet so many died.

@@enes8k9 The Crusades ARE disgusting. I'm not even going to pretend like they're not. But they are also more than that. They are also fascinating and exciting.

Matias Roman ruotski

Rus' doesn't Vult, only Deus Vults

That's very good

Carlos Rios in Soviet Russia... CRUSADES, CRUSADE YOU!

@@CarlosRios1 how about no

This was practically the only Russian victory during the period when the Russian principalities suffered serious defeats from the Mongols. So, it is not surprising that it received a lot of attention in Russian chronicles.

Nevertheless, it ended any semblance of a Baltic crusade in primarily Rus land, which is a lot because (correct me if I'm wrong) Novgorod, Pskov and the Livonian Brotherhood's Rusland borders did not change until the era of Reformation.

Byzantines and Bulgarians against an army of Arabs, but more importantly, Byzantines!? Now that is something cool :D

I'm pretty sure they'd tell you " What's a Byzantine ? We're just Romans goddamnit !" XD

Because "decisive" means that the arabs were then repulsed from both Europe and Anatolia, the Byzantines survived for about 700 more years, the Califate entered a crises that would ultimately bring its downfall, a decisive victory doesn't need to end a country to be decisive and also yeah, the Arab Califate does not exist anymore.

@@Angelblue1302 Most importantly, the Byzantines still had Greek Fire which they used on the Arab ships...with most of the Arab army still on board.

Pfff, Winter War begs to differ :D But truly great use of military command from a chap that is barely on the brink of adulthood :)

Listen to Prokofiev's song for the battle.

+mogyesz9 "Sergei Prokofiev - Battle On The Ice" ?

James Bernadette ok

So did Pyrrhus of Epirus against Romans...

A very silly synopsis of the Siege of Malbork/Marienburg: Poles & Lithuanians: "We beat you at Grunwald! Surrender the castle to us!" Teutonic Order: "It's Tannenberg, and no way!" Poles & Lithuanians: *stare at massive red brick walls* Lithuanians: "...So, uh...do we have to take this thing?" Poles: "...They didn't surrender, so, um...I guess so...Dammit, they were supposed to surrender like all the other castles! Now we have to actually siege this place!" Lithuanians: "Yeah, about that: When I said I'd work with you, I didn't mean I'd throw myself at an impregnable castle to get slaughtered pointlessly by angry Germans." Scout: "Guys! Guys! There's an army of crusaders coming to kick our asses!" Poles: "...Wat." Scout: "Apparently, all of Christendom's kinda pissed at you for allying with pagans to kick the crap out of a monastic order." Poles: "WHAT?!" Lithuanians: "lol. You're in trooooouble!~"" Poles: "YOU SHUT UP! But...but...how did they get an army together so fast?" Scout: "Oh, the Teutonic Order has chapter houses and hospitals all over Germany, so they spread the word. Also a lot of people have crusaded with the Order, so most people like them more than you." Lithuanians: "Well, then, if it's all the same to you, I'm gonna head on home." Poles: "Wait, what? You're just gonna quit? After everything we went through to get this far?" Lithuanians: "Yep. Unless you have any ideas for taking this castle? Or facing that crusader army coming? Poles: "...I'll pack up the tents." Lithuanians: "I thought as much."

Still tho they bribed the crew and took the castle easily

God damn Czechs

Oh right

Nathanael Sallhag Eriksson är du säker på det?

Han tog aldrig København >:c

Nathanael Sallhag Eriksson see CAROLUS RISE!!!

Aron Johansson OK, Danmark gav upp innan han han göra något. Men jag var rätt säker på att han tog staden när Danmark gav sig. (Om det var det du menar)

Gustav Nielsen samma här, Danmark gav upp före han han göra något.