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The Battle over Abortion in Northern Ireland - BBC News 

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Unlike the rest of the UK abortion is illegal in almost all circumstance in Northern Ireland. Campaigners hope a new Appeal Court ruling will help change the law so women can have abortions in cases of rape, incest or fatal foetal abnormality - at the moment even in these cases it’s illegal. They say the result has been made all the more significant by the likely Conservative - DUP political deal. BBC Reporter Catrin Nye has been meeting the people fighting for change and those that passionately oppose any change in the law.
Produced and Reported by: Catrin Nye
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@oliveroconnor5983
@oliveroconnor5983 7 лет назад
If you're pro life then don't have an abortion, but you shouldn't force it upon other people
@ParchedPinemarten
@ParchedPinemarten 7 лет назад
"if you don't like murder, don't commit one."
@johhny1759
@johhny1759 6 лет назад
Murdering humans is wrong and people standing up against that is completely justified
@clayfada6993
@clayfada6993 6 лет назад
If you don't like vandalism don't vandalise.If you don't like rape don't rape if you don't like stealing don't steal.Make them all legal because they will happen anyway
@nick-her9275
@nick-her9275 2 года назад
If you don’t want a kid then close your legs, and don’t force your views of not wanting a kid on the unborn by killing them.
@shannane5171
@shannane5171 Год назад
I'd you don't like slavery the dont get a slave but mind yo business when I have one....see how that's unrealistic?
@NeuxyzPRAWNZ
@NeuxyzPRAWNZ 7 лет назад
Ah yes, a strong ending with a strong argument: "It's 2017"
@perfectfae3534
@perfectfae3534 4 года назад
"It's upsetting my son!!!" *moves son closer* Btw, the son wasn't crying & looked fine.
@Paul-js1yq
@Paul-js1yq 6 лет назад
Where is the love for life gone?
@michaelojeda8338
@michaelojeda8338 5 лет назад
It was never there.
@oggabooga2946
@oggabooga2946 3 года назад
what about the love for the womans life
@mo-end-times-info
@mo-end-times-info Год назад
@@oggabooga2946 exactly ! women are being denied fair , balanced information and fair counselling to make informed decisions in situations which are bound to be stressful - they are being hearded towards abortion by a system set up to supply the desires of wealthy power grabbers who practice child abuse, human sacrifice - we all have been lied to and brainwashed by govts, media, religious orgnanisations, the education system etc- people need to set aside their emotions and pre conditioned beliefs and research for the truth while we still have time - the internet may not always be available for us and if it is taken down, it may be purged of useful resources many of which truthers have already been punished and some even taken down - - - - the proper propaganda is coming from the main stream .
@a6703
@a6703 5 лет назад
6:10 so the women isn’t a human being to be protected?! Pregnancy to full term is dangerous to many women.
@craftingwithcarter2261
@craftingwithcarter2261 3 года назад
Only around 1% of abortions are carried out due to a risk to the mother's life.
@mo-end-times-info
@mo-end-times-info Год назад
statistics and proof please?
@maszlagma
@maszlagma 7 лет назад
A very hard topic. Do I want healthy fetuses to be killed? No I don't. But I also believe that talking about babies and fetuses are two separate things as well (up to a certain developmental phase that is. However I do think that for victims of rape, incest and fetuses with no chance of life (like the case shown) abortion should be legal and not debated AT ALL. Hope the laws will get changed.
@MsRain49
@MsRain49 7 лет назад
The problem is, that if they made these exceptions, it would be the foot in the door and before you know it, it will just be another form of birth control as it has become everywhere else.
@t814
@t814 7 лет назад
Lisa A. You think abortion is like alcohol where you are literally drinking poison? Has that been banned in N. Ireland?
@NeuxyzPRAWNZ
@NeuxyzPRAWNZ 7 лет назад
What on earth are you blabbering on about?
@daisugoi
@daisugoi 7 лет назад
The issue is with abortion that it is immoral and people defend it by saying that it's just a pile of cells. It's still the extermination of a potential life. But does that mean women shouldn't have the choice to abort if it's their bodies? Of course not, let them do what they want unless you're planning to support them via the money you pay towards for goodness knows how long with childcare and work leave.
@Paul-js1yq
@Paul-js1yq 6 лет назад
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@t814
@t814 7 лет назад
It'd be a difficult enough decision and experience to go ahead with an abortion and but to then to have people accuse you murder - they talk about being pro-life but have no problem in making these women, these human beings in front of their eyes suffer. It's hypocritical.
@edmundblackadder2741
@edmundblackadder2741 7 лет назад
TheMystery Gamer So if you punched a pregnant women in the stomach to abort the child it's still ok?
@oggabooga2946
@oggabooga2946 3 года назад
@@edmundblackadder2741 no you toe nail thats assult
@katenoke1571
@katenoke1571 7 месяцев назад
​@@edmundblackadder2741that's an assault. Against the law. Glad to help
@t814
@t814 7 лет назад
May never said anything about Trump's anti-abortion stance. Or anything he's done. What are the chances it gets outlawed in England and Wales as part of her deal with the DUP?
@juice6521
@juice6521 7 лет назад
TheMystery Gamer Yeah, not likely.
@t814
@t814 7 лет назад
Felippe You're probably right. May did force through a retroactive two-child policy earlier this year. Because we will apparently need fewer British workers when we have an ever increasing ageing population to support. And plenty of wars.
@katenoke1571
@katenoke1571 7 месяцев назад
​@@t814there is a two child policy? How is that enforced?
@Chrisallengallery
@Chrisallengallery 7 лет назад
When religion dictates the laws.
@t814
@t814 7 лет назад
Devils Advocate Even if you take religion out of it, it doesn't change the fact that you're ending the life of a living being.
@Fezboyz
@Fezboyz 7 лет назад
TheMystery Gamer like the mass industrial murder of pigs?
@angie6995
@angie6995 7 лет назад
Watch the film 'the silent scream' then say babies aren't aware. They are aware and feel the torturous pain!
@pauladams1814
@pauladams1814 7 лет назад
Angie propaganda peace no relation to the vast majority of abortions
@adarkimpurity
@adarkimpurity 6 лет назад
It's not religion it's basic morals. If a child has a disability it shouldn't be killed; This Isn't Sparta!! (Mega kick)
@adarkimpurity
@adarkimpurity 6 лет назад
This is a bigger issue than you would think. The main roles of government is to protect human life and property. Woman and Dr's don't get to kill the unborn children. If the child is endangering her life thats an issue covered by the law already!
@adarkimpurity
@adarkimpurity 6 лет назад
There was no public referendum in 1967 and they're quoted saying "this will not lead to abortion by choice" ..lies! UK democracy done wrong. And biased interviewer is just the cherry on the top..
@mo-end-times-info
@mo-end-times-info Год назад
@Robbie - if you look past the conditioning we've had from the media and from politicians you will see clearly the proof that govt's do not have a role protecting people ! Babies are being torn limb from limb - let's look at facts. Most of my life I was indifferent to abortion - we all owe ourselves and the vulnerable to look at things realistically and not just stick to the depopulation propaganda we have been drip fed from a minority of wealthy power grabbers who have been culling for generations and many falling into the traps of brainwashing ironically calling the truth propaganda - some anti abortion people may have been too emotional or angry but leaving emotion aside, we look at the facts, we can clearly see abortion is murder, women are not getting fair, balanced counselling and adoption services are biased, the care services abuse children and the world is run by pedophile pervs that make the system work to supply their nefarious deeds.
@JALtravelsabout
@JALtravelsabout 6 лет назад
So Northern Ireland believes that religion is a choice and yet says with there religion that abortion is not? Can you see where I'm going here people
@oggabooga2946
@oggabooga2946 3 года назад
i live in ni and im pro choice
@pauladams1814
@pauladams1814 7 лет назад
It's a woman's right to choose it's her body simple.
@ParchedPinemarten
@ParchedPinemarten 7 лет назад
on what basis?
@FacheChanteDeux
@FacheChanteDeux 7 лет назад
Parched Pinemarten If you don't feel ownership over your own body then you have serious issues. In any case abortions are declining as contraceptive options improve. Do you have a problem with contraception as well or are you against people having a sex life too? Smfh...
@ParchedPinemarten
@ParchedPinemarten 7 лет назад
the baby/fetus is not the woman's body. stop making these silly, but huge, misconceptions. it's the same argument for slavery.
@pauladams1814
@pauladams1814 7 лет назад
By far the best way to minimise unwanted pregnancy is to impower Women with good education, sex education and careers advice.
@lafl1380
@lafl1380 7 лет назад
Parched Pinemarten it's absolutely nothing like slavery! not one slave owner had it's slave in it's body, stop reaching. unless it can grow with out the mother then the mother should have the choice period. like slaves gtfoh with that bs!
@mo-end-times-info
@mo-end-times-info Год назад
Unfortunate experience for this lady, but tearing a baby out of the womb isn't care - the poor wee thing may have been treated better AND this is not a case to make pro abortion as this type of case is rare. Women are not getting fair, balanced counselling about abortion or about the long term mental health issues from having abortion. Too much human opinion.
@preasail
@preasail 6 лет назад
Why can't people control their bodies by making sure a condom is nearby before going at?
@oggabooga2946
@oggabooga2946 3 года назад
condoms and birth control can fail there are also cases like rape ext
@craftingwithcarter2261
@craftingwithcarter2261 3 года назад
@@oggabooga2946 yes in fewer that 1% of cases
@whitetroutchannel
@whitetroutchannel 2 года назад
@@oggabooga2946 im sick hearing that lie
@oggabooga2946
@oggabooga2946 2 года назад
@@craftingwithcarter2261 thats still thousands of people, so they (and everyone else) should be allowed access to abortion.
@oggabooga2946
@oggabooga2946 2 года назад
@@whitetroutchannel do you not believe safety can fail or not believe in rape? you should seek help
@laidir1000
@laidir1000 6 лет назад
Posted nine months ago!
@Justme-zo3jy
@Justme-zo3jy 5 лет назад
Congratulations northern Ireland on getting equality today is your day
@edcarson3113
@edcarson3113 5 лет назад
Just me pfffft Unless you’re a baby in your mummy’s tummy And same sex partnership is the legal equivalent. We’ve had equality on that for quite some time
@whitetroutchannel
@whitetroutchannel 2 года назад
equality? how come the population of northern ireland werent asked?
@phantompage4304
@phantompage4304 7 лет назад
abortion should stay legal tho
@TTT-qk1cs
@TTT-qk1cs 7 лет назад
+La Wanda Cooper "abortion is murder" - No it isnt. An embryo isnt a human... neither from a scientific nor from a legal perspective.
@t814
@t814 7 лет назад
La Wanda Cooper A baby exists outside of it's mother. And murder is the *illegal* killing of a living being.
@t814
@t814 7 лет назад
La Wanda Cooper Inside the womb, it's a foetus. Outside the womb, it's a baby. It would be dead inside the acidic contents of the stomach.
@ParchedPinemarten
@ParchedPinemarten 7 лет назад
"An embryo isnt a human" excuse me? would you mind checking up on that?
@FacheChanteDeux
@FacheChanteDeux 7 лет назад
Parched Pinemarten It is not able to survive outside of the womb for the majority of the gestation period. Abortion should never be a frivolous decision but this story is a disgrace. Her baby would have suffered and died within 1 day of the birth. This woman wants to have healthy children she needs to care for her health. These anti abortion campaigners have no valid argument, they just make heavily subjective limited opinions. Then they press the reset buttons on their backs.
@iamzombie4106
@iamzombie4106 7 лет назад
it's not up to anyone else but the woman she's the one who has the final answer religion plays no part in this decision
@beverleywells7948
@beverleywells7948 7 лет назад
Paul Adams no it isn't. a right to kill another human being who is as defenceless and precious , and since. when is. an unborn baby part of the mothers body
@oggabooga2946
@oggabooga2946 3 года назад
since the foetus wasn't alive and it was attached to the woman and if its not part of the woman the take it out and see how it holds up
@beverleywells7948
@beverleywells7948 3 года назад
@@oggabooga2946 If you believe the baby is the woman's body ,then you need a good few lessons in science
@beverleywells7948
@beverleywells7948 3 года назад
@@oggabooga2946 The baby is alive in the womb ,you are a joke
@tellingfoxtales
@tellingfoxtales 7 лет назад
The only viewpoint relevant in a matter of abortion, is the person getting one, and the doctor performing one.
@t814
@t814 7 лет назад
Ekama Noieau What if she's being forced?
@lafl1380
@lafl1380 7 лет назад
TheMystery Gamer whay if she's forced to have a baby she didn't want, fot5what ever the reason?
@ashleycraig3995
@ashleycraig3995 7 лет назад
Ekama Noieau not the person actually losing their life then no?
@layla-dv2kt
@layla-dv2kt 7 лет назад
Ashley Craig You are insane 😂😂😂
@ashleycraig3995
@ashleycraig3995 7 лет назад
layla what's insane is this😂 people actually debating if a completely innocent human being should have the right to life, the girl in this video goes on about how this is 2017 but yet you people are taking it back to the holocaust. It blows my mind, seriously...
@61shirley
@61shirley 7 лет назад
Correction, the battle over murder
@zeebee8527
@zeebee8527 7 лет назад
If you weren't an ignoramus you would realise the fact is, Abortion is legal up to 24 weeks, (79%) most women in England and Wales have had a termination by week 10! 14 Weeks before it can be considered homicide.
@unicornwitch1283
@unicornwitch1283 7 лет назад
Abortion is wrong why should one life end because you had sex and weren't really for the commitment and what it takes now if it is for medical reasons and if all other options are exhausted then I agree if it is for the benefit of the mother and the child and the situation
@philipocarroll
@philipocarroll 6 лет назад
Unicorn Witch yes that is the pro choice position.
@oggabooga2946
@oggabooga2946 3 года назад
its debatably not alive yet
@rubenzapata3927
@rubenzapata3927 7 лет назад
That woman with the boy is acting provocative and should be ashamed of herself
@ashleycraig3995
@ashleycraig3995 7 лет назад
How about a little sympathy for the child? You know the one that actually loses its life? I fully support that pro-life group, those people are saving lives❤
@oggabooga2946
@oggabooga2946 3 года назад
its not a child its a foetus
@lambo200530
@lambo200530 7 лет назад
So just trusting a grainy picture, rather than holding your child. But you claim the have loved her? Huh
@oggabooga2946
@oggabooga2946 3 года назад
so trusting in a grainy book
@petert4756
@petert4756 7 лет назад
Fuck this. Keep it illegal.
@crashfaff
@crashfaff 7 лет назад
Poor babies :(
@MissRandomwriter
@MissRandomwriter 7 лет назад
What, the ginger ones? - I know, it's tragic. If only scans could show gingerness, they could be aborted early.
@chokinonashes61
@chokinonashes61 6 лет назад
Ash Coles95 What babies? You mean a bunch of cells?
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