Praise the Lord for putting this sermon in my feed. What a beautiful reminder of the grace filled sovereignty of the one and only true God. Bless His holy name from now into eternity. ❤
I love my theology PRECISELY because it points me in every way to Christ my Savior and rightly gives HIM all the glory, fills my heart with gratitude and joy, fills my mind with peace, fills my mouth with praise the likes of which I never knew/experienced in all my previous 50 years as an Arminian. Nobody could ever connect the inconsistent dots of the non-Reformed faith, the unscriptural reasoning that is used to justify a man-centered theology. I’ve no idea how anyone who has actually studied the Reformed faith (which is to say SCRIPTURE) can come away saying it’s dangerous. That’s the statement of one who clearly does not understand what Calvinism teaches. I praise God that He’s opened my eyes to the truth about who He is and who I am in relation to Him. I will praise Him and glorify Him forevermore!
The Lord God Almighty placed earth on the outer edge of one of the spiral arms of the Milky Way galaxy, thereby allowing humans to look up into the night sky and see both the billions of stars inside the Milky Way as well as trillions of other galaxies outside our own. All so that men everywhere are without excuse and that we might seek Him and perhaps find Him and sing of His glory. I praise the Lord God Almighty and His Son Jesus Christ!
Wouldn't it be great if there was a way that we could KNOW for sure that Calvinism - or non-Calvinism - is correct doctrine - without having to rely on interpretations of verses which in a lot of cases are compatible with both Calvinism and non-Calvinism? There is a way. Our minds are fallen. The only way in which we can learn the truth is by receiving from God on a different channel to our intellectual channel. Relationship with God is NOT Mind to mind - we have a relational channel - the Spirit TESTIFIES to our spirit - note that testifying is different to teaching - it is relational experience - not data. What we receive from this channel is not fallen - it is able to inform and when necessary correct our fallen minds. If the relational channel was fallen then no-one's understanding or experience of God would be authoritative. And that leads to why ANYONE can instantly know that Calvinism is not true (without having to reach conclusions about what may be contended passages of scripture). Everyone with Calvinist beliefs must for as long as they hold those beliefs choose between believing their unconfirmed conclusions from scripture - that God is one 'god' to the elect and a different 'god' to the non-elect OR receive the testifying of the Spirit to his spirit (Romans 8:16). Why only one of the two? Why are Calvinists conclusions from scripture unable to be confirmed Spirit to spirit? Because to confirm Calvinism one would have to be able to relate with God as both one of the Calvinist elect - and one of the Calvinist non-elect - in order to have a complete picture of God - in order to know that Calvinism is correct teaching. No person can be both of these. Turn from your Pharisaism - instead rely on the Spirit's testifying over the conclusions of your fallen mind. Acts 10:34-35 ESV So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him". I have posted a series of comments here - with the first lines being as follows: TOTAL DEPRAVITY REFUTED UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION REFUTED LIMITED ATONEMENT REFUTED IRRESISTIBLE GRACE REFUTED PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS REFUTED ORIGINAL SIN REFUTED With my Holy Spirit argument having proven to you why Calvinism is wrong doctrine - you might like to consider whether my conclusions from scripture that each of these doctrines is not correct - are correct - or if I have erred - and if so explain to me where I have erred.
@@philipbenjamin4720 Many men, much smarter and more studied than me, have written many books to that end. It would take more room than I have here to address your challenge but I could easily point you to several resources that most soundly and biblically show why the Reformed faith is the most logically consistent set of doctrines out there. I grew up in Arminian churches and for 40 years could not connect their contradictory dots. There’s no hope or joy in believing that it’s up to you to keep and maintain your own salvation. That’s horrifying! Not one single person in history has been or ever will be able to do that. But in the name of free will Arminians insist that even after a genuine conversion, one can pack up and leave, as it were, in spite of Philippians 1:6, John 10:28-30, and 1 John 5:13, to name but a few. Brother, if one can lose their salvation then at what point does it become and can we call it “eternal life”? It’s not eternal if we can lose it. I don’t argue/defend these points because it’s so important to be right, not at all. I defend them because I so very much want others to know the peace, the assurance, the joy that Christ has given me through His promises and that I’ve had only since understanding Scripture as the Reformed faith teaches it. It’s God-honoring from start to finish. There’s no room for me to receive credit for anything, whereas Arminianism is a joint collaboration of God’s grace PLUS our “free” will, which Scripture clearly states is in bondage to sin before we come to Christ. I could go on and on expounding on why I’m convinced it’s the closest we have to understanding the gospel as Christ taught it and the apostles revealed it, but I won’t. The single best resource I can point you to, the most thorough treatment of the topic I’ve ever read, is a book by John Girardeau called “ Calvinism and Evangelicals Arminianism.” It’s heavy reading but well worth the effort. To God and God alone be all glory now and forevermore. Amen.
“There is no other theology that takes the deadness, the ugliness, the depravity, the helplessness of human nature more seriously than Reformed theology.” AMEN, AMEN, and AMEN.
The Bible and in His Word alone (and with the help of the Holy Spirit, in our human frailty/weakness) --- in our journey with God on this earth - we seek Him and we will find Him. And as we search for Him with all our Heart - we will be found of Him)
Don't ever think "we've got it right, everyone else Is wrong" when it comes to within Christian denominations. That is a pride that keeps the church suppressed and crippled from sanctification. The Assyrian Orthodox Church of the East also preaches the doctrines of total depravity and doctrines of grace. They don't belong to "Calvin" who was a murderer. Scripture truth doesn't belong to a man's name....EVER...it belongs to Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Your statement is circular. The exact situation that human beings with a sinful nature are in is something you must first ESTABLISH from scripture (instead of accepting Calvinist answers to that question without proof). Of course Calvinism is the best solution to the problem AS IT DEFINES THE PROBLEM. See my post elsewhere here that starts with the words: TOTAL DEPRAVITY REFUTED You will see in that post that it's wrong to conclude that non-believers are inclined towards sin in EVERY thought, word, and deed.
Reformed theology emphasizes the parts of the gospel that people find most offensive. It makes so much of God and so little of man in salvation that even those claim Christ are offended by it. It is glorious.
A man is out in the deep ocean - about to drown. A boat comes by to rescue him. The people on the boat lower an uninflated raft into the water so that it passes beneath the man - and then begin to inflate it - lifting the man out of the water. Did the man play any part in his rescue? No. Did the man have free will? Yes - he could if he wished swim clear of the bounds of the raft. Did the man place faith in his rescuers? Yes - again if he did not wish to rely on them he could have swum clear of the raft. It is clear then that as long as faith is choosing to RECEIVE from God instead of rely on ourselves the presence of both free will and faith do not in any way undermine salvation being solely to God's credit. I would therefore ask you to stop speaking as if human beings taking responsibility is EVIL - when the opposite is the case - failing to take responsibility is EVIL.
Rob Bell called Reformed theology boring, but when life smacks you in the face and steps on your neck… We look at the cross! For we have been lead like sheep to a slaughter, knowing the sovereign God holds us in this life or the next. We believe He can save us but even if He doesn’t we will praise Him for His glorious purposes!
Do you understand how John Piper and Tim Keller reconcile(d) God's sovereignty with free will - this problem imposed on them by their Calvinism? By teaching that instead of God overriding the wills of human beings - he instead changes their desires - with all human beings ALWAYS acting in alignment with their strongest desire. They believe that human beings - whether believers or not - are no more morally capable than animals. Which means that they ought to put animals in jail when they commit crimes - or if not transfer human beings from prison to the zoo. They believe that there is no such thing as taking responsibility - they believe that sinners are people who God chose not to give the necessary desires. But if God did not give people the necessary desires God is the sinner. See below why you should not treat people's objections to salvation excluding free will as their ungodliness. A man is out in the deep ocean - about to drown. A boat comes by to rescue him. The people on the boat lower an uninflated raft into the water so that it passes beneath the man - and then begin to inflate it - lifting the man out of the water. Did the man play any part in his rescue? No. Did the man have free will? Yes - he could if he wished swim clear of the bounds of the raft. Did the man place faith in his rescuers? Yes - again if he did not wish to rely on them he could have swum clear of the raft. It is clear then that as long as faith is choosing to RECEIVE from God instead of rely on ourselves the presence of both free will and faith do not in any way undermine salvation being solely to God's credit. I would therefore ask you to stop speaking as if human beings taking responsibility is EVIL - when the opposite is the case - failing to take responsibility is EVIL.
@@philipbenjamin4720 I don’t know what happened brother but we’re on the same team taking the teachings of Jesus to the nations. We believe that God wins in the end and that He will give judgement to all.
Without Theology, we are fallible humans who, left to ourselves, can run ourselves into a ditch where we are stranded without help. Among other things, Theology tells us Who each Person of the Trinity is along with His attributes; the function of every Person of the Trinity; and how They planned and carry through salvation. And if you trust in Him, you had nothing to do with it (your salvation Eph 2: 4-5), but the inevitable response, “Thank you, Lord Jesus!!”🌟♥️
I totally fail to understand why so often congregations laugh at things he says which ought to be drawing a “Hallelujah!” or an “Amen!”, or something that would demonstrate that they understand the profundity of what he’s saying. It’s rather like clapping after hearing a worship song. We still see this stuff as entertainment rather than contemplating our own sinfulness in light of God’s glory.
He makes no arguments from scripture to establish Reformed theology. He is throughout acting as if his exasperation with people who don't understand is all we need to receive from him.
Luke 9:28-36(The Transfiguation) " 28 Now about eight days after these saying he(😊1st❤) took with him Peter(😊❤) and John(😊❤) and James(😊❤) and went up on the mountain to pray(😊❤). 29 And as he( Jesus😊1st❤) was praying(😊❤), the appearance of his face was altered, and his clothing became dazzling white. 30 And behold, two men were talking with him, Moses(😊❤) andn Elijah(😊❤), 31 who appeared in glory and spoke of his departure, which he was about to accomplish at Jerusalem. 32 Now Peter(😊❤) and those(😊❤'s) who were with him were heavy with sleep, but when they became fully awake they saw his glory and the two men who stood with him. 33 And as the men were parting from him(Jesus😊1st❤), Peter said to Jesus(😊1st❤), " Master(Jesus😊1st❤), it is good that we are here. Let us make three tents, one for you and one for Moses(😊❤) and one for Elijah(😊❤)" - not knowing what he said. 34 As he was saying these things, a cloud came and overshadowed them, and they were afraid as they entered the cloud. 35 And a voice(😊 100%❤) came out of the cloud, saying, " This is my Son (Jesus😊1st❤), my Chosen One(Jesus😊1st❤); listen to him(Jesus😊1st❤)!" 36 And when the voice( God our Father's voice😊100%❤) had spoken(😊❤), Jesus(😊1st❤) was found alone. And they kept silent and told no one in those days anything of what they had seen."( Luke 9: 28-36 ESV Study Bible)
I’m just gonna say it again because it needs to be said; Why, please somebody tell me why, when he says things like, “It didn’t happen that way,” (43:08) are people laughing as though it’s a humorous thing? Why aren’t they rather shouting “Amen!” with hearts filled with sorrow and compassion that ANYBODY would EVER believe that they contributed to their own salvation? I’ve got a great sense of humor but utterly fail to see where the humor is in what he’s saying. It’s a very serious matter and one I am eternally grateful for God having opened my eyes to the truth of many years ago.
God's character is not measured by his emotions and desires. It is measured by the way he has ACTED in Christ. It's the same with us - our 'having affection' for God does not speak to our character - and will not save us from hell. Only our actions prove our character.
@@philipbenjamin4720 actually a true elect Christian will be marked by an affection for Jesus Christ. He loves Christ. That is a privilege given to him, by the Father, to enjoy that love, to rejoice in that love, to abound in that love. Please examine these verses… Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come of Myself, but He sent Me.” (John 8:42) He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him. (John 14:21) For the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I came forth from the Father. (John 16:27) So if a “Christian” as no love for Christ, he should check his heart.
@@minorsingingairhead the Calvinist knows that scripture says to examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-unless indeed you fail to meet the test.
Why is the term "New Covenant" not found in the man-made confessions of "Reformed Covenant Theology"? The term is found in the Bible multiple times. New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the questions below? Who is the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is the “son” that is the “heir” to the land in Matthew 21:37-43? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. God is not now a “racist”. He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son’s blood at Calvary. The Apostle Paul warned against using “genealogies” in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4, and Titus 3:9. If the New Covenant is "everlasting" in Hebrews 13:20 and the Old Covenant is "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13, why would any Christian believe God is going back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the RU-vid videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
@@RustyShackleford-1689 I have never seen the term "new covenant" in the Westminster Confession, or the 1689LBCF. If I am in error, please show me where it is located.
@@SpotterVideo You asked why the term “New Covenant” wasn’t found in the confessions. It’s because we understand that there’s one Covenant of Grace with two testaments or dispensations. You’re simply arguing semantics. Westminster Chapter 7 covers a lot of what you said and even quotes Hebrews 12:22-27 in section 6.
Okay, I've observed Piper, I've read his content, and I think he has some great takes on what it means to live under salvation (Christian Hedonism as he coins it). The five-point theology has been addressed by this whole comment section exhaustingly, some big opinions I see. Got my phd in foolishness and church dads, but I'll leave some ideas for you. If you research the earliest Christians, you'll come to find out that pre-Constantine and compulsory "christianity," that the least likely, the outcast, the most "non-ideal" of us would come to change their whole lifestyles over time, without compulsion, when exposed to the Word of God - meaning that The Word had to come to them, and from there they had to make the decision to accept or deny it. God didn't create us to be robots, what blasphemy! But these early believers also understood that he knew our makeup and our disposition... before we even had it. Think of it like exposing a clay stick and candle stick to the same radiant sun. One will harden up, the other will melt. In a similar way, there are those who naturally melt by the Gospel and those who naturally despise it, or in Pharaoh's case out of Exodus, hardened to the Word... because that's how God made them. That's why the overseers and deacons were always to be tested, to prove that they will themselves to stand firm by their faith. So it's this dichotomy of to believe, or not to believe. It also seems Paul saw the same thing in Moses! Read it below: 2 Corinthians 3:12-16 (with emphasis added) Since we have such a hope, we are very bold, not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face so that the Israelites might not gaze at the outcome of what was being brought to an end. But their minds were HARDENED. For to this day, when they read the old covenant, THAT SAME VEIL REMAINS UNLIFTED, because only through Christ is it taken away. Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their hearts. 16 But WHEN ONE TURNS TO the Lord, the veil is removed. My favorite part of 16 is that it didn't say "when God turns one to Jesus, then the veil is torn," because it gives man autonomy to live by their own will, either to death or to life. Why? Because He loves you. Even in the OT, you'll find that God does not condemn us, we did that, but even still He wants us to follow after life! "I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse, THEREFORE CHOOSE LIFE, that you and your offspring may live" - Deuteronomy 30:19 (emph.) If you want further clarification, read the Didache, excellent work from 50 AD to referrence. So if God created our substance, and we're made in his image (again, not robots), and we inherit the curse of Adam, and find a new birth in Christ by repentance and baptism, then is it entirely up to Him whether we're saved? Because He died for us, if we reply in kind, even if we did everything right according to the good book, does God reserve the veil-tearing only for a few? If so, then is it really the good news? Or on the other hand, is it in the power of the believer himself, to believe and allow Jesus to tear the veil, securing the soul? I'll let you answer that for yourselves, grace and peace to the brothers in Christ!
TOTAL DEPRAVITY REFUTED To refute total depravity we need to find examples in scripture of people we definitely know are not believers definitely acting rightly (with the acting rightly not being their conversion). Below are two examples: Mark 12:34 ESV And when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And after that no one dared to ask him any more questions. Acts 17:22-23 ESV So Paul, standing in the midst of the Areopagus, said: “Men of Athens, I perceive that in every way you are very religious. 23For as I passed along and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription: ‘To the unknown god.’ What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you. Remember - if any single TULIP doctrine falls - or original sin falls - all of Calvinism falls.
@@philipbenjamin4720 lol those verses don't even speak on total depravity. Reaching for air guesswork. Get obliterated. Romans 3:10-12 (ESV): "As it is written: 'None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.'" 2. Ephesians 2:1-3 (ESV): "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience-among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind." 3. Genesis 6:5 (ESV): "The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 4. Jeremiah 17:9 (ESV): "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?" 1 Corinthians 2:14 (ESV): "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned."..
@@isaacsandoval9316 Of course the verses I present don't refer to total depravity - total depravity is both a non-biblical term - and an unbiblical doctrine. The verses I present refute total depravity - they show that non-believers are not sinful in every thought, word, and deed - this is enough to refute total depravity. Again you fail to engage with what I present. In Mark 12:34 Jesus would not commend a man who he expressly states is not yet in the kingdom for his answer if either the answer - or his intention in answering - was infected by sin. Or does Jesus affirm sin? And in Acts 17:22-23 Paul refers to the activities of the men of Athens (who are not believers - they worship idols - see Luke 14:26) in relation to the unknown God (the one true God) as worship - something he would not do if the men's actions were sinful in every thought, word, and deed. The only verse you present that gets close to the subject of total depravity is Genesis 6:5 (you must ESTABLISH total depravity from scripture - which means proving that alternative views are not viable). My verses show that Genesis 6:5 should be interpreted to mean that AT THAT TIME people's sinfulness dominated all of their behaviour.
@@philipbenjamin4720 yes they are worshipping false Gods? …. Can you portray that worship is always a positive thing? Are you asserting that one cannot worship falsely.. How stupid can you be? What part of sin did my mother convince me do you not understand? Its in plain English.. Can you give me another interpretation of that verse 🤣
@@isaacsandoval9316 Can I clarify your view about Acts 17 (while noting that you haven't responded to Mark 12:34)? If a senior pastor of a church was discovered to be stealing from his congregation - and committing adultery with people in his congregation - I don't believe that people would describe his behaviour as faulty worship. His behaviour would be considered to be rebellion against God. Yet in Acts 17 - if total depravity is correct doctrine - we must presume that EVERY SINGLE ACTION of the men of Athens is sinful - WHILE Paul calls it worship. I don't buy that as a viable interpretation. (I don't believe that this reasoning deserves your calling me stupid. And I didn't understand what the following words of yours were supposed to mean - "What part of sin did my mother convince me do you not understand?").
@@philipbenjamin4720 what part of that whole scenario with the senior pastor in any way shape or form relates to verse in acts? Again makes zero sense. What part of that whole scenario involves worship? Again makes zero sense. If someone was praying to a false God however that is in fact false worship. Just because someone is worshipping doesn't make it correct. Unless you're saying Paul is praising them for worshiping false Gods... Which would make Paul a false apostle.…
PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS REFUTED Romans 11:22 ESV Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. The fact that Paul says to the same group of people BOTH that they only need to continue how they have begun to be saved - and that if they did not they would be cut off - shows that perseverance of the saints must be wrong doctrine. (People must have the freedom to turn away from God). Remember - if any single TULIP doctrine falls - or original sin falls - all of Calvinism falls.
@@HearGodsWord I've implied alternative doctrine in this thread - people can lose their salvation. That's doctrine. See also 2 Peter 2:20, Hebrews 10:29, Hebrews 6:4-6, 2 Peter 1:10-11, Hebrews 3:12-14. Thank you - I will add to any of my threads where my beliefs are not revealed by my criticism.
ORIGINAL SIN REFUTED Deuteronomy 1:39 ESV And as for your little ones, who you said would become a prey, and your children, who today have no knowledge of good or evil, they shall go in there. And to them I will give it, and they shall possess it. Isaiah 7:16 ESV For before the boy knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land whose two kings you dread will be deserted. The only way that original sin survives these verses is if sinning is ONLY about doing the act - not about the state of one's moral development and heart and mind. But if that was the case we would be required to believe that Jesus is as angry with the woman at the well as he is with the Pharisees he calls a brood of vipers. I rest my case. I have been asked to supply alternative doctrine in the threads where I refute Calvinist doctrines. So here goes (for how we come to sin). Normally when a believer approaches the bible they consider both how the passage they are reading related to people at the time - and also to us now. Original sin makes an exception to that - Genesis 1 to 3 becomes about how two people make wrong choices - with this stuffing up everyone else's lives. No! We should read Genesis 1 to 3 as if it is not only a description about how the two people - Adam and Eve - came to sin - but ALSO a description of how we came to sin. Proof that we should do this is revealed in Paul's reasoning in 1 Timothy 2. Eve being the first to be deceived and become a sinner is NOT a reason for why all women should not teach or have spiritual authority over all men - UNLESS Adam and Eve are ALSO representatives or all men and all women. We each rebel against God - responding to the influence of sin in the world (Romans 5:12) - when we reach an age of responsibility (the verses I quoted above show that some are too young to be considered sinners). Romans 1:18-32 reveals this and explains that as a result of our rebellion God judges us in two ways - he allows us to become inclined towards sin (THIS is why we experience inclination towards sin - when we are not relying on God) - and also darkened understanding. Receiving God in the cross reverses these two judgements. Remember - if any single TULIP doctrine falls - or original sin falls - all of Calvinism falls.
@@philipbenjamin4720 watch your case get obliterated….. 2. Romans 5:12 (ESV): "Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned." 3. Psalm 51:5 (ESV): "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me 4. Ephesians 2:1-3 (ESV): "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience-among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 5. 1 Corinthians 15:21-22 (ESV): "For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive." 6. Romans 3:23 (ESV): "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. I rest my case. Inherited and guilty before any act...
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE REFUTED 2 Corinthians 6:1 ESV Working together with him, then, we appeal to you not to receive the grace of God in vain. Romans 2:4 ESV Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God’s kindness is MEANT to lead you to repentance?'' Grace must be resistible. Remember - if any single TULIP doctrine falls - or original sin falls - all of Calvinism falls.
@@philipbenjamin4720 can a mortal mans will overpower the fathers? Can a dead man resuscitate himself back to life ? Get obliterated. Romans 8:30 (ESV): "And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified." John 6:37 (ESV): "All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out." 2. John 6:44 (ESV): "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. 3. John 10:27-29 (ESV): "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.
The only beauty is that everything is predetermined...that's no beauty. It's actually very ugly given how Calvinism makes God the author of evil (I'm a former Calvinist and have been decreed to say this by God).
@@calebcrawford2520 Predestination is a theological concept that specifically refers to God's sovereign choice to elect certain individuals for salvation. It does not concern the day-to-day decisions or actions of individuals but rather the overarching divine plan for salvation. Try not to be an absolute ignorant liar next time around..
@@HearGodsWord if he can’t understand it, isn’t it God’s fault, I mean, didn’t God determine him to not be able to understand it and to believe something false?
@@HearGodsWord I thought in the Calvinist view God decides what man can and cannot do because he is sovereign over everything? Am I misunderstanding? I’m not trying to be snide. It’s an honest question. I have trouble understanding this concept.
Reformed theology is the true God centered gospel of the Reformation. Luther believed in total depravity and God's sovereign election more fervantly than Calvin.
Man centered theology that treats the will of man as something God must bow down to is dangerous. Calvinism only threatens those whose theology is built more on the influence of humanism and western thought than on scripture.
This man has lead so many people astray. His theology has polluted seminaries. It is destroying churches and baptisms are plummeting. His type worship Calvin and Edwards, they do not worship Christ.
I am Australian. Sydney Anglicans have adopted Calvinism in recent decades (I grew up in an Anglican church where the word Calvinism wasn't even spoken!) and they now cannot get anyone to come to their churches - let alone stay. Newcomers can FEEL the Calvinist attitude - which is that on the balance of probabilities God has chosen not to welcome them - God HATES them. The Sydney Anglican denomination - while teaching Calvinism - has seen a twenty-five percent drop in attendance in fifteen years. And yet they still won't turn from Calvinism.
LIMITED ATONEMENT REFUTED Acts 10:34-35 ESV So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.'' Romans 5:18 ESV Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. Remember - if any single TULIP doctrine falls - or original sin falls - all of Calvinism falls.
@@philipbenjamin4720 unless this fool believes in universalism this will be the easiest of all to showcase. The reformed tradition teaches that Christ's death is sufficient for all but only effective for the elect... Who in the world would disagree unless they are a liberal? 5. Romans 8:33-34 (ESV): "Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died -more than that, who was raised--who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us. 1. John 10:14-15 (ESV): "I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep. 2. Matthew 1:21 (ESV): "She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins..
@@isaacsandoval9316 You have not explained how you interpret the verses I present. Start your own thread if you don't wish to do that. What is the partiality that Peter refers to in Acts 10:34-35 if not treating one person differently to another in respect of salvation? And what justification and life do the Calvinist non-elect obtain in Romans 5:18? Pretending that I believe in universalism (I do not - there is no reason why either verse requires me to) doesn't give you a get out of jail free card for these verses - you have to say how they can be made compatible with Calvinism - or give up your Calvinism.
@@philipbenjamin4720 how do you know those men aren't elect 🤣 where in the verse does it say that? Your literally assuming something onto the text! Partially refers to favor? These arguments are dead weak who said that God gives the elect extra favor? Where in our confessions does it say that? These verse are not. Not even on topic
@@isaacsandoval9316 I don't understand your post at all sorry. The issue here isn't centred on who is elect or not elect - it's centred on the fact that Acts 10 says that if God prevented anyone from coming to him - or said that people could come to him while Jesus hadn't died for their sin - hadn't chosen them for salvation - it would be partiality.
@@philipbenjamin4720 again your response makes absolutely no sense? Can you type your response in a readable fashion? That people can come to him? What does that even mean? What does that have to do with the topic? …
@@skilledinspeech9917 I’d find more beauty in listening to silence , counting grains of sand on concrete, even cleaning a bathroom, than listening to this sermon.
