The Becky Trope, Explained 

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Yes

Yes

Truuuuueeee

I don't know this girl... Does that mean I am this girl? :/

A white bro who cruises through life on good looks, rich parents who pay to fix any (likely many) mistakes he makes and a system that assumes that he's always innocent until proven undeniably guilty , is more overtly racist than a Becky with a dash of misogyny mixed in, he goes to a prestigious university regardless of whether or not he deserves to be there and when he graduates/ gets older he likely ends up in a position of power and influence over people in a lower social standing than him

@@KingHiki Like Luke from The O.C. 😤 I hated that guy.

Yesss. Although I always thought of Chad. Scream queens Chad was the most annoying and almost perfect trope.

Oh Chad is a well defined trope

@@KingHiki this is way too specific to be an archetype.

I feel the same way. I kept waiting for this video to get to the heart of this issue and it never did. This was clearly made by people who don’t understand the struggles and culture of black women.

@@tiajackson1590 I think they were trying to generalize it but ended up missing the point.

Agreed! They’ve almost interchanged it with the popular/mean girl

@Akshay 786 Read your comment out loud. Recognise your racial bias. Do better. It’s not too late to delete this comment.

They should have left Beyoncé out of it. It’s a completely different conversation.

It literally is 😂 Susan is the grandma and Kaiyleen is the younger sister

Brad is the father

HA!!! 😂😂😂😂

Did u watch the video essay lol

Becky is young Karen, before she lost her greatest asset, youth (and therefore beauty), and got bitter, entrenching herself into the entitlement that being the venerated Becky taught her she deserved.

yesss!!!

They did. Look for "The Cool Girl"

I was just thinking about that

ECL28E I’ve watched it, I don’t really think its the same

@@hihi-cz2nh have you tried pixie dream girls as not like other girls. They’ve done that which I think is comparable. Don’t know about pick me though.

Exactly! I was thinking the same. Bey was talking about a specific kind of dynamic that intersects race and gender. This video is just a basic white girl trope, not what Bey was referring to.

Would be interesting to see a video dissecting her version.

Beyoncé IS the Becky wit the good hair🤣🤣

My thoughts exactly… despite not having quite got the right meaning, it was an enjoyable video for me. Dealt with so many Karens and Beckys before it was even a thing…. glad to see it articulated in ways I never could!

Khadija, it's so nice to see you!

‘Miss Ann great grandma (silence generation), Susan grandmother (boomer), Karen (gen X) mother and Becky (Millennial) hopefully it’s doesn’t crept into gen Z but probably so.

Seriously. This is up their with 'ignore bullies and they'll leave you alone'. Pure cluelessness.

" 'it only has power if you let it" self help bullshit of the highest order.

Your right which is why I am an avicate for punching back bullies. Also how do you destroy the social hirarchy do we have to convince the people at the bottom to brutally murder the people on top

@@eduardopantoja9115 tbh, I don't think its possible. We're social creatures and so long as we have to communicate to survive, they'll always be a hierarchy that will eventually come about. Like, its isn't wrong to say that 'they only have power if you let it' but to go against a social hierarchy, you have to weigh what you gain/lose by not bending to its will.

It’s a clever way to not only offer no help but also put on you, the victim, the responsibility to deal and swallow the damage society (regardless of how messed up it will make you and your closed-ones). Do we wonder about the cycle of bullying and it’s impact on siblings, future coworkers or romantic partners? Nope! Where do we think abuse/hurt disappears?

I can’t emphasize how much I agree with your comment.

I like pumpkin spice. It's like my grandma's pumpkin rolls in liquid form in a cup, and it's quite nice.

It specifically applies to white women.

Ikr i love pumpkin spiced lattes but they make me obese but i rather die fat

This comment is *Chefs kiss*

Incorrect

I genuinely like them

Few people, however, will be able to escape this, because advertisement and media/ celebs will always influence our taste so that lots of people will begin liking the same things at the same time, even though before, they never care for them. So, trends. Few people will actually be able to always escape them and even then, will be shunned for that.

Definitely. I feel like the conclusion was very “white feminist”, which basically ignores the real underlining issues in relation to race. The “Becky” trope was created by the black community. And I didn’t like how it again paints young white females as the victims. “We should look beyond their ignorance and put them in the right direction” or whatever they said didn’t exactly sit well. I personally don’t like that the oppressed (which could be anyone) has to always be the teacher.

Yes! Thanks for pointing it out, I hope they correct this blunder

YES! The point of Becky is that she is held over black womens head as the white girl she could never be and also as the woman a guy will leave her for-- usually after using up the black woman than spoiling the white woman. Huge examples are black male celebrities whos first wife is black and once they become successful they marry a white or "ambiguously exotic" woman who is often a white woman (And tiny but of another background) with lots of fake tanner as well as straight shiny hair.

Did you even watch it? They did more than touch on it. They flat out said it was about a blond white woman. They brought up the race thing multiple times in the video. Shut the hell up and stop looking for a reason to complain.

I thought they were saying that the term started with beyonce but has come to be associated with entitled young white woman

They already did it if i'm not wrong

Isn’t that the cool girl trope?

they have videos on things like the "girl next door trope," "weird girl trope," and "cool girl trope" which I think encompass different areas of what you were asking about!

Cool girl trope

Yeah, they did those, but most of the girls in these tropes don't really recognize them as "I am not like the other girls", and even if they do, it's really not a big thing (mostly). 🤔 I guess this movement is more on social medias, but I really wish I could see the take doing an explanation about it!

From my experience, on the internet people will actually point out any priviledge BESIDES wealth.

I think Tiffany and Ivanka trump are the 2 most well known Beckys 👱🏻‍♀️👱🏻‍♀️ and donald trump is similar to a male Karen.

Facts

blame-culture alert. do you really think hings will get better from endless privilege blaming?

basically anyone who doesn't see the whole point of identity politics and its use in helping give power and influence back to marginalized and oppressed people groups/communities

Yes.We need to call out more often when men does the same as well.

There's also "Chad" for guys !

I see what you mean. Though there are names for men like those, chad, or brad they don't get as much exposure.

So true. Making it female diminishes it because of misogyny.

@Akshay 786 They are not as well defined or thrown around nearly as often. Just look at how many 'Karen videos' went viral this year alone. Also, nerd? simp? not comparable.

I dont know, the caracters they are showing( the protagonist in bring it on, in clueless, or Becky in 10things I hate about you) are not racist, just basic, like the definition in the Urban dictionary says, I dont know why they are talking about racism or " the harm they do"

That’s bullshit. THEY need to give a break

@@estefaniaboujon6830 😐

@@estefaniaboujon6830 Racist means they think they are superior to black people. Almost all of these girls DO think they are superior to others, even if they aren't mean. People, especially white people, think racism is being mean to black people or being violent towards them. Racism is an ideology of superiority, and these girls quite often have shown prejudiced and racist behavior, thinking they are better than others and behave in a patronizing way.

@@GenerationNextNextNext In what way Is any of the character mention racist? You cant blame someone of something they have gave you no signs of being or have done

they didn't say beyonce invented it. they said after beyocé, becky became a meme and people started questioning who she was.

I think it's both. Beyonce resurrected 90s Becky into a more modern light and even Gen Z people born in 2000 who never heard of Sir Mix a Lot, knew the kind of girl she was referencing.

It’s been around before that as well

Yeah I pretty sure its cultural, I'm black and I've heard becky all growing up.

Becky was definitely a thing before lemonade. Lol

Facts because Plies definitely said Becky before Beyoncé 😂😂.

I've never heard about Becky before 👀

I’m sitting here shaking my head because Becky has always been a thing in the black universe we know what we mean when we say Becky we knew what Beyoncé meant when she said call Becky with the good hair

@@way2kool89 exactly that’s what makes this video so laughable

So what’s it mean?

That what my mind immediately went to and I bet it goes even further back than that.

They didn’t say she invented it, you can’t lie and say Beyoncé didn’t solidify the term to Gen z and the population at large because that’s when the memes flooded the internet. Not a lot of people were aware of the beck trope when sir mix-a-lot made baby’s got back or piles with Becky because we didn’t have Twitter.

Did you watch the video? They clearly said it started with Sir Mix Alot in Baby got Back.

And the preamble to baby got back

@@ruonaogbodu2243 Like always, something only becomes valid when it’s introduced and accepted by the white populace.

"This video puts the pressure of change on other people" Yes it does. Its called being an adult. Be the change you wish to see in others. Nobody does anything by themselves completely alone, we all need each other to change and grow. You would deny helping someone to become a better person? If the answer is yes, and its related to skin colour in ANY way, shape or form, then you need to take a step back and judge yourself first.

@@theconsumerdrone8281 It's not about denying help to anyone but "Beckys" are also adults who should be aware of how their actions affect others.

Tristan isn't a trope, you can't make one up on the spot and call it a thing.

@@V25021 “Tristan” is just an example name. Trent, Christian, Spencer, Ashton, etc. Those pretentious, Ivy League names would all count towards the trope. The “Becky” and “Karen” started small; let’s expand.

But if those basic things is what she likes, why should that be a bad thing?

@@GoldenRose116 not bad... Just generally frowned upon because someone less conventionally attractive would just be bullied and called cringy

@@sarroumarbeu6810 you should be allowed to like what you want to like. for instance you're never too old for muppets. but yea why be a follower and just pretend to like things to be popular?

@@oooh19 exactly... Why would you bother someone or anyone for their interests?? But in a certain setting a certain conventionally attractive person will get the pass to like the things that make others be bullied for... See? Double standards by whoever dictates the power dynamic in an institution like let's say hs or a workplace

@@sarroumarbeu6810 exactly Becky can get away with liking anime or just watching one star wars movie. I as a Mexican can't. If I wear glasses I'm seen as we but Becky shes cute. If any women who is not a Becky we cant get away with shit or be accepted for our interest.

It's crazy how you seem to have more sympathy towards fictional characters (ascribing the benign "self-absorption" to them so you ALLOW them to have a redemption arc) than you do for real people (ascribing full on hatred to them). If you really think people who may display racist attitudes at times and may have some non-examined racist beliefs are just irredeemably full of hatred, what do propose be done to them? Lethal injection? Electric chair?

Keep in mind, that "real-life tropes" usually never change until the worst happens.

@Akshay 786 "Almost every female teenager gets knocked up (get pregnant) in the US and they abort them" Source?

@@П.М-в7ж you missed the entire point

Why yall even spend ur time on this there r buigger problems jn this world

@@mariateixeira3737 exactly every toxic element can be passed behind the genius trait

They did it, but was dissapointed, they claim people love them and barely talk aboyt the real narcisissit personaoity traits

I was thinking the same thing...

Exactly. They are the ones who started oppressing us, THEY need to unlearn that shit & stop

You sound like classical Becky.

Can you be a becky if you dont live in america?

girl, I'll never take the time out to educated a Becky (again). Google is free.

STILL HASN'T!

Girl, who you tellin? Seen both! Saw her with her husband, Dwayne Wade(?)--still thought she was in her 20s-30s.

Yes! All of this

Absoltely, this 👏👏👏

@Nikki D Sure, but men don't nearly have as many "labels". It's like we are much more OK with labeling and thus dehumanizing women than men.

We're talking about media tropes, so no.

This type of comments is exactly white women using feminism to hide their racism

Thats the whole point of this channel, to make obvious how hollywood label woman in the same steryotypes EVERY SINGLE TIME, that when a woman from an popular show doesnt get that treatment is overpraised hahahha so original, so human, great character arcs etc ... is sooooo sad, the bar is on tye ground for female characters on cinema Thats qhy we need more female directors and writers

Guys also get labeled a lot too. Incel, Simp, Nice Guy. Especially incel. I head that one get tossed around a lot.

Yeah....like the part where Becky could be better if WE just gave her a chance? lol

@@AerialAssault87 what kind of chance. She's literally born with everything

@@robertbarack1827 exactly.

Yes! The white woman conveniently left out the part where Beckies like fuckin on black men and appropriating black women’s aesthetic.

@@red_calla_lily wrong and loud.

I agree, if Karen is the prissy, middle aged white lady, then Becky is her younger, twenty something counterpart! 😉

@@trinaq not all Karen's are white

Essentially

@@naomicrilly6766 Not exactly. The term ‘Karen’ as it’s used is equated to a white, middle-upper classed, privileged woman. Especially how it’s used in this context, as many Becky (a basic white girl) can easily be translated as a younger Karen.

Not all white girls are as privileged as Emma or Cher in Clueless. Jane Austen was much less privileged, that is why she could write about it more clearly. Plus, Rebecca in Rebecca, Becky Sharpe in Vanity Fair (and maybe Rachel in Friends? I forget) are coded Jewish. Rebecca in Rebecca is murdered because her husband finds her a fake, someone who just commits to English stereotypes because they let her get away with what he sees as betrayal. The second time you read Rebecca, you realise she was just as likely just a victim of his jealousy. Again, this channel misses the anti semitism of the fake 'princess' in all this talk of basic, wanting the label rather than quality etc that has been very tied up with anti semitism. The name Rebecca - especially spelt Rebekah - is associated with Jewishness.

Considering the name and the earlier movie thropes about Becky are closely tied to the Jewish community with things like, the name being relatively common for Jewish women, one could consider this thrope to be anti-semitism, and if you think anti-semitism hasn't hurt people like POC have been hurt, I think you need to crack open your history book for this little thing called WWII. How about you stop generalizing the experience of a different race/group if you're fighting for the equality of your own? Makes you look like a hypocrite, you know?

EXACTLY!!!

@@inferiorinferno8859 You are reaching.

@@inferiorinferno8859 ah yes the name Becky as prime goal for destruction in Hitlers agenda or that period in history where the Beckys where segregated. You must be great at writing essays since You can can pull a nonsense argument out of nowhere

@@inferiorinferno8859 the 'becky' trope has NOTHING to do with anti-semitism in modern pop culture. Making an accusation like this is too serious for you to just throw around. Lol not even elastic woman can reach as far as you just did 🤦🏻‍♀️

@@maaike4746 but i’m focusing more on the comment section than the video

@flavi I totally agree with you

I think the term "good hair" Is actually used by black woman

So how the fuck is it OUR (white women's) fault when men prefer white women to black ones? Black women's loneliness is not our responsibility and making us the culprits for what black men do is EXACTLY what's so sexist and racist about this trope. Black women are really just angry with black men - but they attack us as a scapegoat because they don't dare to confront the men who cheated at them with white girls.

@@red_calla_lily I agree, at times ,women engage internalized misogyny via projected anger amidst the toils of men . It is indeed a concern we should discuss,. However, the central question is , "What does SISTERHOOD look like, if we wish to achieve it via feminism?" "Is multiracial, intersectional feminist sisterhood possible, or even worth attempting?" While some women find themselves innocently involved in an oppressive dynamic, the "Becky" (as due ascribed) is often very aware of her privilege's and exploits Black women, Black people, all POC, and marginalized people, etc upon which she can display such exploitation. Many a White women (within the topic of feminist sisterhood) very much harm other women. Many people (whether straight, white, able bodies, etc) exploit their various privileges to harm others or benefit ontop of the devalued bodies of the marginalized (so ye, it is not just White women whom engage in such behavior). Secondly, I shall sadly inform you that there is a "Gender war" between Black cis-het men and Back women + LGBTQ right now because Black cis-het men are indeed finally being confronted much more directly (in a overtly observable and identifiable manner) by this generation due to the power of social media. In fact, everyone who engages and perpetuates oppressive systems shall be confronted by this generation. it seems. Hopefully, good societal healing shall resurface from all of this discourse. I supposed the lovely OC was more so compassionately informing of psychological effects of such oppressively dynamics.

Yeah.

Becky becomes Karen once she hits the wall and loses her looks.

I've always thought it started with "Becky with the good hair" and then transformed into something negative by people claiming the name as an adjective more through Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, etc.

Yes, I'm actually disappointed in this video because I don't think they did enough research. Becky in the black community has always just been another word for a white girl. It's like they were so busy trying to make a statement about (white) Feminism that they failed to understand the origins and the meaning of the term, and how that term relates to mostly the point of view of white women through a black person's eyes. To us, all white girls can be a Becky, even if you aren't "basic". White feminists have a really hard time with intersectionality, and stuff like this shows that. This is also the problem with White people taking over black slang, they almost always change the meaning, and then they get to redefine them, and then the original meaning gets completely lost. Becky means white girl and white girls most times come with microaggressions, entitlement, and arrogance. But ultimately it's just synonymous with a white girl, not some sort of misogynistic statement about her interests.

it is inherently sexist tho. do you give white men meme names? the ones that are out there are barely used and not universally known. the traits that make a becky or a karen come from a misogynist view of women. ps a white woman can (and most likely will) be both: victim to sexism/misogyny and racist

@@meladversity chad

Sounds like you have a very racist view on women who happens to have with skin.

Lmao it is possible to get free fries in mcdonalds just like that??

I'm brown skin Mexican girl who went to a really white University and I did notice ALOT of white girls trying to always diet like crazy! As someone who comes from a Mexican culture that loves women with large hips and a big ass I confused me seeing a strange obessision for a white girls wanting a very skinny twiggy body. Thankfully now things are changing girls with a nice hour glass body are more desired!

I don’t think Becky will ever eat fries let alone at McDonald’s. It’s just not her vibe.

@@kayafilikovska992 If you have to ask then...lol. I used a hyperbolic example that could commonly understood. But if you are constantly getting access and privilege based on how you look, you won't question it because you stand to gain from it. Till you realize not everybody...gets "extra" (how bout that?) fries from McDonald's. 😉

@@lollolilol7818 In secret in between diets.

Yesssss

Yess it's a marvelous show (no pun intended lol)

Yes! And also the general housewife trope

That was the impression I also got. I had a similar reaction to this one and The Devil Wears Prada video by them, but this one was more unintentionally racist 😬. I’m glad they’re trying, but they missed it here...

Yes, they're all "Stacy" not "Becky". Becky is more like the girl in Pitch Perfect. In Beyonce's context, it's any woman who is closer to white or is white, and deemed superior by black men due to the European standards of beauty being ingrained in them. "Beckys" don't have to try hard to get privileges.

Not all Becky's are racist.

@@angelsmusic2560 you have no clue

@@a.lynnmclaughlin106 Becky is slang for white girl. Y

@@angelsmusic2560 yes but are nuisance attached. Hence you have no clue. Research and keep it pushing

@@a.lynnmclaughlin106 You have an attitude problem. I don't have time for you.

Well, at least you have enough insight to admit it. That's the first step.

why are white ppl always having to apologize for simply existing? even other white ppl think so.

The fact that you’re able to call this out on your own is a big step.

what is thE name of that movie/series?

Aren’t nearly all the characters, films, shows, etc in their videos American?

@@jarm1664 Yeah this is true, but this Becky trope is especially exclusive to the US so I guess those of us in other countries find it difficult to relate to or find comparison. I mean there are aspects and archetypes in movies that are universal and most of us experience e.g the madonna/whore categorisation of women and other stuff but this one is very much an exclusively American trope.

@@lucybird1405 the video I think doesn’t go into enough history. The term Becky really arose from the relationship between Black and white Americans and standards of beauty. When Beyoncé says “Becky with the good hair,” good hair is coming from a huge issue in the Black community in which looser or straighter hair is seen as good while kinky coily hair was seen as bad, ugly, unmanageable, even referred to as slave hair by some people. Perhaps Becky as a trope has spread but it has a very American history, so it’s going to difficult for non Americans to get it. I think it’s strange to complain that Americans making a video on an American stereotype/trope using American films and TV is American centric. The term arose from US race relations, so it’s hard to speak about it in a non US centered way. Yes, there ARE archetypes that are universal, but this might be one that’s not.

@@jarm1664 You make a fair point and as some one with curly/wavy hair (more so ringlets) though white, it is a hassle, the sheer amount of anti-frizz cream I have to use is insane, I want 'Becky' hair haha.

@@jarm1664 agree with the part of the stereotype of people based in race, I always knew about the karen trope or this one by the personalities, but I get confussed with the factor about that "they are white". In a country with being white is totally a minority, you can find people of any race (principally mestizos) with the totally same mentality and actions. Very confussing from this part of the world

Definitely

Yeah that’s what I was gonna say. I think they should’ve had a black woman or at least non white right this script

@@yung1717 Same. Personally I'm a bit tired of people suggesting that we continue giving these characters a chance and empathisizing with them. Especially since after these stories, we usually don't see how the POC around her are affected after people wisen up to a Becky's facade. Sure, we can forgive them and watch them grow, but will we also be as forgiving if a Black girl or a Latina girl were to act the same way she would? And if people in "lower caste" groups would get heftily punished for the same behavior, then why shouldn't she? Would the girls in other racial groups obtain the same accolades, support, or adoration as the Becky previously did? While I'm not condemning every character who fits in this group, it's very annoying as a POC to be frequently told to give people the benefit of doubt, accept forgiveness, or keep giving these people chances to chage when it isn't alotted to us. I mean this story has been happening forever; why should we expect anything or anyone to change on those people's ends?

@@kaitlnwhite6809 yes 100% facts tired of the mean privilege girl getting praise for doing the bare minimum

@@kaitlnwhite6809 yo FAXXXX there was that call to action for us to “give becky a chance” and “she has the capability to grow more than other yt girls” and i was like ??????????????????

YES.

this!!!!!!!

Would you be able to discuss the why "every girl should get along" notion is harmful? I honestly am tired of hating on other women (narcisistic qualities aside), just because I feel woman hating and competition for male mates has been a tactic used against women for ages (yes, in this patriarchal society). Its one thing to hold somone accountable for their actions, but I really could do without the immediate vilifying and hate.

@@loliwinston1007 first I want to note that your choice of language is leading. What I mean by that is, your word choice has placed a stigma onto the reader. Girls not getting along with each other does not immediately mean they’re “vilifying and hating.” Women and girls are just humans at the end of the day and most humans do not like every human they encounter that is normal. So putting this idea into girls heads that they have to “get along” because they share the same body parts is ignorant and unrealistic. In fact, that logic excludes a lot of people who are non binary, gender non conforming, and trans. Furthermore, Men are very forthcoming with their feelings as a general rule of thumb and just as much as women compete for men, men in return compete for women. Those things cancel each other out. Also not getting along with someone doesn’t mean acting in an irresponsible way. Your response implies that it does.

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

gertrude

Mildred?

Susan

0-29 is a Becky, 30-49 is a Karen, and 50+ is a Susan.

Judith

Haha, that's relatable. I know a few girls named Karen, and they loathe it whenever people make cracks about their name being a meme! 😂🤣

Samesies.

I refuse to let anyone call me 'becky', Rebecca is so much better~

@@tesreso5448 I changed my name to something else entirely for high school, in college I just went back to Rebecca. I only go by Becky when I’m writing letters to management.

Sorry..

Are you saying all white women are racist?

@@angelsmusic2560 yup. You clearly did not read or comprend this well

That last part is not a bit exaggerated? Beauty is subjective. I'm sure many men would want to date Beyonce more than a white woman that they might consider average.

You sound pretty racist yourself. You act like white women are all inherently racist, are born that way, and can never not be racist even if they try. Stereotyping people and thinking they are lesser humans based on their skin color is racist.

@@M123Xoxo don’t know why people are acting as if “racist” is a slur or bad term. Even if the OP was saying white women are racist WHICH HE DIDN’T that isn’t racist.

Must be hard being collectively the most privileged race of women 😭🥴

Hi, you just aked me something in a comment I couldn't find, so in response, I'm not someone with the philosophy of "all lives matters", I think I always saw racism and sexism both as social problems with the same source but differents in subjects. Tha fact that feminism is still an insult in some countries or at least something you have to keep secret made me cautious in some way, I had a clasmate in college who everytime I said I'm a feminist he started to talk about feminazis and "crazy men-haters" wich I always responded that I don't hate men just for been men and I don't want to kill them or hurt them or anything, but he never listened to me, he was the kind of guy who insisted that if a woman was harassed she just have to go tothe police and the problem is automaticaly solved. So when I see a comment saying we have to stick together and fight men who are our opressors I guess I can't help to put out this side of me who feels that I have to prove myself that I'm not a crazy person who wants to eliminate male population. I feel like all societies are misogynists by default and we are trying to grown out of that concept but sometimes we can't avoid fall into them

American girls 😂

THIS

100% agree

I disagree these terms come from black culture and black people especially women created them to talk about our experiences. It gets frustrating to perpetually come up with terms to define our experiences, have them co-opted, decontextualised, and then discarded. Over and over this happens. I think rather than discarding something we use to talk about our experience its better to do the hard work of recontextualisation when you see people just using it as an excuse for misogyny.

@@kristalcampbell3650 thank you. White women, especially liberal feminists, always erasing black women and our struggles and it’s as simple at taking terms and as complex as the bill burr monologue on snl and beyond.

we can't "evolve" from these terms when the root issues are still there. I'm not saying your comment is completely wrong bc i know men do use these terms in a derogatory way (I've def experienced it), but i think white women are often shielded from criticism by using misogyny as an excuse. the terms haven't been taken over, we have the critical thinking skills to understand when they are being used in a valid way or not. this video is a great example of how the terms can be used to understand social issues/constructs--they even address misogyny at the end

@@kristalcampbell3650 It is happening with the term gringo, now they want to tell us Latinos what a term that we invented means

Yep

You can still do, they didnt reveal much

Watch the original first. 💗

The book came out 80 years ago.

@@estefaniaboujon6830 ah! great, thank you ☺️

When did Bianca do something wrong to Chastity? I've forgotten that bit...

@@kahkah1986 Bianca never did, she was always a good friend to Chasity. The whole point of the video essay was to show that some white women can’t she beyond themselves and their privileges. Chasity probably felt over looked and ignored by everyone because Bianca is white and “pretty”, while Chasity doesn’t fit into the American beauty standard. And is only ever seen as Bianca's friend and not a full person. (Making me think of the Southern belle with her personal black slave as a lady's maid) She may have also felt that she couldn’t talk to Bianca about these feeling because she “could never understand”. That their friendship has on a equal footing ( Bianca being superior because she is white and always in charge in the relationship), these reasons could have made her resentful towards Bianca.

@@katherinelambert4662 It was the film that only depicted Chastity as only Bianca's friend though, whereas Bianca the character was just friendly, as far as I can remember. Maybe she was a bit oblivious, because she didn't realise the boyfriend only wanted to be popular, so she could have been oblivious to the status thing as well, it makes sense. As far as I can remember though, Bianca was the only one who was friendly with someone from another background though, as a character trait her being 'oblivious' for want of a better term might not have been wholly bad. Kat is oblivious as well, sometimes it is good, sometimes she is just rude. It was also realistic that Bianca would be snappy if she had broken up with someone and her best friend immediately started dating him, though, which is the clip they show in this video. It would be hurtful. I think there was a dynamic of Bianca taking charge now that I think about it, although I think Chastity goes along with it because Bianca is popular so it benefits her, so when she does something that hurts Bianca but benefits herself she is surprised, she assumed they were better friends. Chastity wasn't just friendly, she was attracted to Bianca's status, which is discussed a bit in the video. Once the popularity based on looks is gone, she is surprised by how few friends she actually has.

Are you inciting hatred?

@ Josh Gonzalez ❤️ Wonderful analysis. ❤️

Yes 👍🏾 let’s support them

Uhm... Are you gonna elaborate? Putting a "-2020" ain't a comment..

These terms were created by black people and people of color to describe entitled white behavior but since these terms have become popular online alot white people (men) have been abusing these terms to discredit black and POC and to demonize women so the misogyny is from white men abusing these terms

@@MsFluffyninja7 Fair enough

The problem with this trope is that the mainstream usage of the word does not apply to cinema. Or at least it doesn’t apply to MUCH cinema. So in actuality, it’s not a trope. How many films/tv shows have actual white/non-black women being open about their fetishisation of black men and appropriation of black culture?

@Akshay 786 was that sarcasm?

@@MsFluffyninja7 definitely my problem with these "Karen" and "Becky" terms. They are inherently mysognistic. If someone is being entitled or racist call them "entitled" or "racist". Don't go for a term that might be used on a random woman because of her choice in haircut.

Why black? that seems racist. Are you trying to harden hearts and incite hatred in others?

Right???

Seriously, the Fleabag spoilers were uncalled for, they didn't even talk about that video here other than to promote the Prime thingie

That's where I got frustrated. That show is on my list, but my God there's so much to watch.

I hope they do. I wouldn’t mind them going into detail about how movies that I haven’t watched ended, if they put in a quick spoiler warning.

Well some of these shows have been off air for years and Fleabag ended in April 2019. They don't really owe a spoiler warning when that much time has elapsed.

I hate first names being turned into insults TBH, it seems like such a bully tactic to embarrass a specific someone and ends up being a negative to a bunch of people who are completely different.

@@Nightman221k ikr!! I was about to write the same thing

I feel personally attacked in this video tbh!

@@Nightman221k You mean like names of whole generations turned into insults too?

@@Lollipop.er42 Please don't be. I bet you're an amazing person.

@Akshay 786 yeah asian women and middle easten women are considered more desirable in the modern world.

She is basic. Full stop

Yeah, Alexis was an underestimated badass. She wasn't an airhead and was genuinely kind and helpful to others. Being beautiful and bubbly and privileged doesn't make you a Becky.

How so?

Saaame...the sheer volume and quality of The Take's content puts my procrastinating ass to shame.

season 2 was amazon

Thank you! It would have been nice to have *them* say that! Not everyone with that name is like that!

Thank you!! Honestly I feel really shitty reading some of these comments saying how awful the name is (obviously the character it represents is rightly dragged lol) but I've always liked my name. I go by Becky most of the time since it's what my mum called me and seeing it become a meme is breaking my heart a little :/

For real though.

Haha thanks! That's why I go by Bex.

My principal’s name was Becky. She was condescending to parents and was very incapable. She also enforced very strict rules which the students hated

What does that even mean??

Are there Karens in fiction that have changed?

I dearly hope so. ❤️

Accountability is also a place for Beckys to start at. Like you pointed out, why do they need to have their hand held through being educated on their privilege (white fragility), especially since it is no one's responsibility to teach us, just as non-white people have learned to be "kind, considerate, compassionate, and aware", why are they just supposed to be forgiven for the obliviousness and complacency? From what many comments on this video are telling me, one huge mark they also missed is how Beckys play a huge roll in propagating cultural appropriation and are sure enough nowhere to be found when the very same people of color whose work they live for are being put down through the systemic racism they themselves benefit from. This video takes a look at Becky from the angle of a "basic white girl" approach in the second half, claiming for her to be a victim of misogyny, but from what others are pointing out, being basic has nothing to do with being a true Becky, it's complacency. I think referring to your real world example of Emmet Till's accuser is a better example of the dangers of a Becky if she doesn't change her ways. White women are responsible for checking ourselves.

@@Kayla-ep5gm Well said, well said. Excusing "being a Becky"' by making it the equivalent of "being basic and/or oblivious" is one of the main reasons this archetype is so dangerous-- however subtle or outright. Willful ignorance weaponized is the danger to us all.

@@DP-mn3bk It's more so that white people/ whiteness is to be believed, upheld and preserved at the expense/ bodily harm of BIPOC/ marginalized people. That's the other messaging we see in the story of the Exonerated 5/ When They see us. About the mention of the couple being outstandingly violent, I understand what you're saying, but honestly, every person has the capacity for evil or goodness regardless of upbringing or experience. It's a choice no matter your world or worldview. Another the real danger of a Becky is that her naivete and goodness is presumed regardless of her malintent or potential for viciousness. Ignorance doesn't mean stupid just like abusive past doesn't equate to a callous personality. It's how we choose to deal. She made a horrible choice. Just like you mentioned about microaggressions, we all are capable at some level of doing harm. At one point, to be outwardly racist (and still in plenty of places in the USA and in other countries) is a normal thing that normal people do and being microaggressive and coded or systemic in the form/ shape racism takes is a normal thing that plenty of normal people do. I hope it becomes abnormal really soon.

I have nothing to add other than to say this a really good point and you’re amazingly gracious about it. Hats off

EAT THEM UP SIS

Rebecca is a remake of a famous hitchcock adaptation of a novel. I think they a assumed the type of movie lovers who watch this channel would be familiar with the basic premise.

the same goes for “vanilla anything”. I mean..it’s pleasing and uncomplicated? what’s wrong with loving it

But that's the point. They're mainstream because manipulative corporations trick people into liking them. And the Becky is someone who buys in whole hog; then leverages her mastery to dominate others.

I love your quotes, and how you always manage to find some related to the topic of the video! ♥️👏🏾

@@trinaq thank you

Yes, please!

I couldn’t agree more

The trope is about women who are benefited from being white and pretty but also has the oppression of having to deal with misogyny idk any group of people outside of white women who have that people

@@roslyn-rose124 many Singaporean girls in “Crazy rich Asians” cannot be seen as Beckies? “Clueless” main actress’s best friend is black. How is she not a Beckie too? In your reply you do not engage with my point, you just say that they are white. That is not a counter argument. And I disagree. Beckies can totally be non white too. It is their behavior that defines them, not the color of their skin.

@@IlGiglioNero okay so who else is in the unique position to benefit from being attractive and white but be oppressed from dealing misogyny that's the core of the Becky her life is easy from getting whatever she wants from being so attractive and white main actor best friend from clueless is a black woman and her life would completely different from her friend cher who wouldn't EVER have to deal with racism although racism isn't in the movie clueless in real life It would exist P. S. Maybe those singaporean girls can be beckies in their country/culture but in the US they deal with racism

@@Lili-kr4pj i thought just like you but then i read comments and what people write -''i know Karen becky. .. '' so what to think about those people?

The point is to make money from views and activity in the comment section. No, they understood perfectly mate. You're naive.

@@theconsumerdrone8281 Apparently I can’t leave constructive criticism on the video of a channel I like? Not hating, just simply stating a fact. They get a lot of stuff right but this time they didn’t. Not every video is gonna be a winner. I’m not naive for pointing that out. Go find someplace else to be an ass.