The last few review ETA did on Fire HD tablets unfortunately left out some crucial info or were even kinda incorrect in places: Models since 2018 have had their firmware locked. This means "we cannot fully block OTAs, use custom launchers without Fire Launcher, lockscreen ads can no longer be permanantly removed, and some system apps can't be disabled." (quote from dev of Fire Toolbox). This theoretically even means that any day Amazon could push an update that cannot be fully blocked and that might make all the things Fire Toolbox can do, not work anymore. And one more info that I wish someone had told be before buying: The damn thing can only do FAT32! You can't even play a video file of over 4GB on it. The screen and sound really blew me away, but those things are too much of a hassle and risk for me to really recommend it tbh.
I got the exact same model last year and I had the ads removed and PlayStore installed through the device, all I needed was wifi. It took me about five minutes.
@@ringwe Yeah, you can still do that (at the mercy of Amazon until they decide to push an update to kill fire tools completely), but some things you can't do anymore (see quote above). E.g. you cannot remove the Fire Launcher anymore, you can only basically display another launcher over it (which produces a lot of little annoyances, though).
It does say ads cannot be permanently removed, but since the last time I updated firetoolbox, my hd10+, and removed ads again, I haven't had them reload since. It used to reload ads every time wifi connected after going to sleep, but it's been about 3 months now with no ads coming back.
@@JDX_117 but you can disable all ads except lock screen directly from settings. Settings - Apps and Notifications - Amazon App settings - find and disable all "offers", especially "Dashboard".
@@JDX_117 I didn't really like my 2022 fire hd 10+ either until I installed firetoolbox on my PC and removed ads, most bloatware, and installed Google Play store. Now, for the price I got it at, I'm extremely happy with it.
I just bought 2 for my daughters. I also bought pens. You forgot to mention that these tablets can now use pens. That's the main reason I got them. They are by far the lowest price option for using pens.
I bought the first one in 2017 for my son to use, it still works in 2023 (I decluttered it, installed play store, removed adds etc) We have since upgraded to the 10 pro version for the kids and used the fire tool on it too. Kids are not using the kids interface, but instead the normal OS modified with an app lock. After doing all of this I would recommend it.
Thaaaanks!!! I saw the deal on your Black Friday video and had to order one. I was stalking your channel for a review since you cover exactly in what I’m Interested in
I really do think that if Amazon would bump up the RAM just a little and switch to more of an Android skin instead of the FireOS fork they've been doing, these tablets would be some of the best you could get (though if the rumors are true their own non-Android OS is coming soon and destroying all hope). My Fire HD 8 from 2022 is awesome for the most part, but the 2GBs of memory cause random app crashes and make using a password manager a real hassle. You can't really complain because the price is so good, but I can't help but wish I had something with a bit more juice.
I got the previous HD10 and like it for what I need. I sideloaded playstore on it and used nova launcher and cant tell a difference to a standard android os. Like i said, for wjat I use it for - RU-vid, Netflix, Prime, etc. it works grest. I also really like reading comics on it which was a selling point for me. This was all on the prior model. I did buy a 23 version on monday for the $80 price tag which is again, good.
The last few Amazon tablets I purchased were so slow and ad riddled I didn’t really consider them as tablets. They were more like those dummy display units you get in supermarkets, but with worse performance.
I'm happy that people who can't even bother to disable 95% of ads in tablet Settings exist - your tablet returns are the reason why cheap Amazon's "Certified refurbished" offers exist in the first place and why the offer never be exhausted 😅
@@sarmatiko Man.....i really hope you didn't think this was some profound or clever statement. If the tablet is getting mass slowdowns from a few ads, is it really worth using?
I love your channel and reviews. You should do some reviews on budget tablets such as doogee, Teclast, Blackview, or some really out there rebranded rebrands like this "POWMUS" tablet I just picked up off Amazon for $110. It appears to be a rebranded blackview running android 13, 1080p, t606, 8GB RAM+7GB swap, 128GB internal which tested at 750MB/s read and 350MB/s write, SD slot claims it's good for 2tb, 1tb confirmed. Anyhow, it's pretty amazing what you can get for around $100-120 in 2023 from these off brand names. 🎉
For secondary tablet for kids or parents/elderly relatives I really recommend looking at Certified Refurbished HD 10 2021 model which sells for 65-68$. It's basically the same performance wise ( -has 1GB less RAM- and slightly weaker CPU) but for media tablet it doesn't matter that much. 2021 model handles h265 10 bit encoded videos smoothly (unlike HD8 2020) - that's the main benchmark for me personally, since this encoding becomes more and more popular. Nevertheless, 80$ for a new model is a good deal.
except the cpu isnt slightly weaker in that last gen model it's significantly weaker. about half the geekbench scores for example. shame this couldn't squeeze in 4gb ram but i get it for 80 dollars. also i think youre confused. hd 10 2021 on a quick google had 3gb ram, same as this new 2023 model. you might be thinking of the fire Max 11, which has the same more powerful CPU as this HD10 2023, but has 4GB RAM instead of 3GB, metal construction, but costs more. in summary: Fire HD 10 last gen=crappy old Helio P60T CPU+3GB RAM, Fire HD 10 2023=better G90 CPU, still 3GB RAM, Fire max 11=G90 CPU, 4GB RAM. BTW for ETA if he reads this, I believe the word is Amazon is developing their own OS, not Android based, for their fire products and everything they make. What that will mean for Google play store sideloading support, I dont know but I would assume theres no chance of it. Which would probably make Amazon happy as it's more money for them as all purchases would have to go through them.
@@cryengine_x you are correct about the same amount of RAM. As for the "crappy" CPU - as I said, it's mainly a media tablet, focused on media content. 2021 handles it well and that is all that is required. Even with G90, 2023 is still not a gaming tablet (and I'm pretty sure parents who will buy it as such will disappoint their kids). Personally I don't see any reason to upgrade from previous models, but if Amazon in six months will add refurbished listings with 2023 model for ~65$, then sure, why not.
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Well, I bought it before seeing any of this, I honestly just wanted it for knitting pattern library, and it sure does that. I bought my two grands each one, I let their mamma set them up, and I pay for the kids monthly subscription. Hey they are 5 and 7 so they love it. So I do keep mine in my bag because also in my bag is sock yarn and knitting needles. I DID get them all on prime day, cheep-O-lishes 😂
I wonder why they abandoned the Fire 10 Plus in favor of the new form factor Fire Max 11. The chassis can hold a bit larger battery, but the increased resolution is going to drop it right back down. I have the 2021 Fire 10 Plus that has 4GB of RAM and I've liked it quite a bit. It plays the couple of games I want, streams video fine and can playback 720/1080 H.264 10-bit video with subtitles just fine via VLC. It does feel sluggish during some web browsing, but that's rarely something I do on it. I know it was built down to a price, but a couple features I'd appreciate for future models would be a decent speed fast charge option like most modern portable devices offer, and USB 3 or 3.1 speeds for the data port. If I'm loading up the SD card with media, I can save a lot of time by removing the card and putting it in a faster card reader which is just a hassle. Wifi 6/6e would be nice, but that's probably coming as the Fire Max 11 has it. Fire OS does worry me a bit though, as they never offer the newer versions for older hardware, and they're based on older versions of Android. These newer ones on Fire OS 8 are based off of Android 11 and the older ones on Fire OS 7 are based on Android 9 which isn't maintained any more. It's not a problem immediately, but it's possible that newer apps and games in the near future won't install as the OS dropped off the supported range. Still, we're talking about an $80-100 10" tablet with decent specs and even cheaper if you have an older Fire tablet to trade in, so all the stuff above is "grains of salt" rather than critical flaws that will concern most folks... but something I'd want to be rectified fore more expensive hardware.
Hi just purchased this is it possible you can do an updated version on how to install a custom launcher on this? Haven't been able to find any vids or tutorials.🙏🏼
Make a video with the fire 10 13 Gen playing Diablo immortals and cod mobile but make us see the settings I think you will need a 64 gb or can you make a video just show us the setting to graphics and show us game play please eta prime Thank you .
Amazon announced a week or so ago that they were ditching Android in Fire devices in favor of building their own proprietary build of Linux. Because that's clearly what everyone was asking for...
I bought this mainly to watch videos while on a recumbent and a secondary control panel for space games like Star Citizen. I would love to play Warcraft Rumble on it though, but apparently it gives a black screen for people.
Definitely. I was having a bit of buyers remorse after I bought a refurbished hd10+, and wishing I had shelled out a couple more bucks for a true android tablet, until I found firetoolbox. With the toolbox and the price I got the refurb for, I am more than happy.
I disagree. The screen is good. General quality good. From a reputable company with decent support. If you are only interested in media viewing or reading (ebooks or webpages), it's better than other options even without appstore.
I may want to get an inexpensive tablet just to show off my photo business. If I don't care about using Wi-Fi for the internet, is this OK for loading photos by cable and does the photo section have any editing tools - or is it more basic than that? Thanks.
I wish you'd have tested PS2 emulation with AetherSX2. On paper this Fire Tab Gen 13's Mediatek 8186A SoC compares pretty evenly with the Unisoc Tiger T618 that's found in a number of recent handhelds. The Tiger can run a decent chunk of the PS2 library, so why not this SoC too? Both SoCs use a 2+6 configuration. However; this Mediatek uses newer "big" cores compared to the Unisoc. The 8186A has A76s per this video vs. A75s in the T618, clocked at around 2GHz on both units. Meanwhile the 6 "small" A55 cores here are clocked 200MHz higher than the T618's. Now when it comes to Mali GPUs, admittedly, I don't know much. However, both are running variants of the Mali G52, so, I'd assume there's not that much difference between the two. Is there any reason why this can't run Aether? I know one shouldn't go buy this tablet for higher end emulation any more than you should buy an Anbernic RG405 or Retroid Pocket 3+ for the same thing. However; comfirmed abilites to do some PS2 at a high level would've been an extra feather in its hat, just like it is for those aforementioned handhelds. As it is; this was still a very useful video because I thought Amazon was still rolling with the 12th gen Fire 10. I learned something new today. Thanks again, ETA. Your coverage of "value priced" items is a large part of why I stay subscribed to this channel.
I have the Fire Max 11 which has a better processor (A78 vs A76 or A75) than either the Fire 10 2023 or the T618 it also has a better GPU (MC57MP2 vs MC52MP2) and yet games (android or emulator) run about the same or WORSE than the T618! This is especially noticeable on the Citra emulator. The emulator says the game is running at 60fps at 1x and full speed yet it runs like molasses. The same game on the supposedly weaker T618 runs silky smooth even upscaled! I think it's a GPU driver issue (hopefully it's not throttling!) and we all know Amazon doesn't care about those fixes. They only 'update' to block any attempts at using third party apps to remove ads or customize the launcher. The IPlay 50 Pro fullsize or mini is the MUCH better deal and the best tablet(s) you can get right now under 200 USD.
I want to replace my Amazon Fire TV box from 2016 with game controller. It was the one that was not a stick and before the cube came out. What do you recommend? I have a few games I play there including pinball arcade with all the old tables and I’d like something new in the Amazon ecosystem
In EU Black friday deals Amazon Fire HD 10 (2023) goes for 90€ vs Amazon Fire Max 11 for 150€ (Tax included) so the difference is smaller. Would you still recomend Fire HD 10 over Fire Max 11 considering those prices?
I expected an €80 price tag and was mad when seeing it at 90 EUR but I don't really expect any better offers before Prime Day. The exchange rate turns the $80 into 73.06 Euro and with the value added tax (20% in my country) it rises to €87.67. So good enough!
This is a good tablet, but not worth upgrading from the 2021 model. The only difference is that it has 13 hours of battery instead of 12, two 5mp cameras instead of a 2mp and a 5mp, and it's shell is negligibly smaller, but the screen, processor, storage options, and RAM are the same as before.
This isn't exactly related to this video subject but, I'm really curious if it is relatively easy to Jerry rig a oculink port onto the Legion Go, like you did for the steam deck on a previous video. I think it would be an interesting project to get that gdp g1 compatability with maximized frame rates. Thanks, love the content!
Could I get the link to the video on how to get Google play on this tablet please? And thank you❤ I asked my husband for this tablet for Christmas to play merge dragons on....lol. it's the only game I play and only other thing I'll do on it is watch RU-vid probably and maybe some Facebook..... I knew ahead of time that play store could be installed I just don't know how, lol. But we had a $100 bestbuy gift card from buying our sons new game console there (also at Christmas time) and with this tablet being $83 at Christmas we actually got it free and also got a pen stylus to use with it using the gift card. Excellent buy for what I needed but maybe not for everyone lol
I have had a had 10 for a year now, I’m not really using it because I have better devices , I have found loads of glitches as well like the home button not existing I do not recomend one really 1080 p as well is not good enough for my use
Does anyone know if the new hd10 13th gen 2023 and the 9th gen (2021) are the same size and hardware? I’m planning on buying the 2023 and the old 2021 gen’s case I have is still new and would like to know if I need to buy a new case
I think that Fire Devices are a waste of $$ at any price. You get an outdated version of Android and the tablets can be slow. Having to use the Fire Toolbox is just another negative. That said, I can understand why people get one, like to give to the kids or to use for uses like a Kiosk where these breaking is not a concern due to price. For me, I would rather have something else because the only things of note you can do with one is Music, video, eBooks, and web browsing. Another issue I have is that Amazon sells both an ad supported discount version and a more premium version without ads. MAKE SURE if you're getting a Fire Tablet that you do the one without ads.
> Music, video, eBooks, and web browsing This is exactly what most people bought this for. It's worth it for the price as entertainment device (that is not gaming) I personally bought a Fire HD 8 for manga reading purpose last year
@@ulfricstormcloak7142 My whole thing is that you can get a cheap Lenovo tablet or a cheap iPad and not have just an eBook reader that also streams music and videos. In most cases if people had a more capable device and they knew how to take advantage of it, they'd be more inclined to use it over a Fire tablet.
When I bought my first Amazon fire 8" I payed the couple bucks extra to remove ads, but when I bought my refurbished hd10+ it didn't have that option so I just installed firetoolbox on my PC and removed the ads with that while also removing bloatware apps and installing Google Play store. The tablet is amazing now for the price I got it at.
The Samsung tablets might be a better option for some, but depending upon what you get, performance can be lackluster. The Fire Tablet experience tends to be optimized for the even lower quality and you'll have a better experience.
The Fire HD 10 is great for watching videos, reading books and listening to music. Not so great for gaming as it can't run more intensive games and even games like Roblox, it really struggles.
$80 feels like the RRP it ought to be. Android 11 base seems a little odd now that 14 is here. But going into 2024 there is one feature that should be present on all touch screen devices, video out. The drip feed of tech needs a kick in the backside and the best way to do that is to avoid products that show it in all it's terrible glory. So Amazon, you're fired.
I don't recommend Amazon tablets at all. My lad has the fire 7 and even tho it has the SD card you can't even install games on to it and I've tried everything! So every time he wants a new game we have to uninstall others and he doesn't even have many. Crap they are
Isn't it normal for Android devices nowadays? I mean my old Redmi 5 or 7 can back then but anything beyond Android version doesn't allow us to play from SD card
😂I have a fire 8 hd. But its very slow. Lacks apps in the appstore as well. I know there arenot alot of good andriod tablet option in the market. But ur much better off buying a ipad 9th gen. It has much better cpu and gpu. If u buy this, u will probly feel like u just dumped 80 dollars in the trash can.
I need a tablet capable of playing Roblox without horrible frame drops. This seems to be the same version I got my kid earlier this year, and it runs Roblox like absolute dogshit, like 20fps max in some of the simplest games. Any recommendations that won't break the bank? Like if we get into Steam Deck pricing territory, I'm leaning towards just buying her a Steam Deck, her desktop PC is about as powerful as a Steam Deck, and runs Roblox WAY smoother than her tablet. Help, ETA!
Kids already are too impatient, waiting does them some good. Kids don't need to grow up thinking they get what they want when they want. So who cares about the slightly slower load times compared to more expensive ones
When you have options like Samsung A7 at a similar price but much better performance, for me that’s the better option. Additionally you actually get android OS and not Amazon’s rubbish gui, and PlayStore without jumping through hoops, so native access to all apps, not just the ones Amazon chooses. On my sons Kindle 8HD that I bought last year, it is so slow, that even I want to through it out the window when I need to access it for parental controls. Games constantly crash or are laggy. It’s just a rubbish device sold really cheaply so people then think it’s acceptable, but of course there are subscriptions to then pay if you don’t want to be bombarded with ads or want any device control. I bought 2 of these for my kids for this Christmas, but think I’ll return them and get the A7’s instead, when I think about it.
Because the N64 is a 64-bit system so still requires a lot of grunt to emulate. I'm still blown away how well the Wii emulated N64 games including ones that used the expansion pack for improved and enhanced resolution graphics.
@@wizzgamer dude, n64 emulation sucks even on high end devices. my pc with an iris xe (obv not high end but ik) cant easily run wii with upscale and no frame drops but have some goddamn drops in n64.