Deadly Premonition - The Best Bad Game Ever Made 

Well, it's true. Figuratively, the whole insane tree fetishism is a mark of his abuse by his mother. The delivery of the line is delightful

I reverse snorted Irish cream out of my nose at that point How that was never a rare meme I’m not sure

Time stamp? I missed that part most likely but that sounds hilarious

@@cairax23 1:09:41 onwards

my man spitting facts

YES

The license plate says SPYFCTM 35:48

And that's after the change to be more _subtle_

FK in the coffee.

Francis Bro Morgan

​@@lewisaino Francis Giga Chad York Bro Morgan is what I've discovered is his full name

york deserved to get the girl in the end

Not to mention, that every time you get a headshot, you hear the cash register "ka-ching" sound. Which I found really satisfying.

Zach is a reference to Diane. Agent Cooper was reporting everything to her.

Many years ago a drunk driver thought he was driving in the middle of the road and leaned right to correct it, he was wrong and he hit a speed limit sign in front of my house, which then bent and his car went up in the air and landed on the side. Gas coming out, people running to help, they open the car door facing up and he comes crawling out with a cigarette still in his mouth. A pure comedy moment.

​@@wannaput10shots til a ciggy is the best safe guard against a car crash

​@@wannaput10shotswe need to make the abuse of hard drugs like alcohol or tobacco illegal. The junkies will KILL us all! 🌈

One thing you can be sure about smokers, is that they'll rather die than let anything happen to their cigarrette's lmao. Espiecially if it's the last one and the nearest shop is miles away

@@wannaput10shotshe was not sugar coating ngl

It would probably make sense if that happened

@@A_Stereotypical_Heretic it may we'll be authors intent, knowing Lynch lol

@@tylociraptor8131 lol true. Someone should try it

@@A_Stereotypical_Heretic why dont you try it yourself?

@@juancorzo5081 because im retarded

"Cool motive, still murder."

I love it even more now that it's even kind of justified with DP2. This isn't even his first time dealing with this stuff, he's just done with it at this point.

@@Raeymondo When you're so used to seeing that kind of stuff

​@@RaeymondoI didn't know there was a sequel

@@visassess8607 Oh, well yeah, it came out originally on Switch a couple years back and then got ported to PC. I got it the day it came out and personally had a great time with it. It's ehh... Not really that great as a game on its own (the performance issues were ASTRONOMICAL when it came out), but as a sequel to *Deadly Premonition* it's *perfect*

I think it's the other way around, i think Zach is suppoed to be the real one

@@KayderimGameplays ah you know what I mean

Just because you're concious of a coping mechanism doesn't mean it doesn't work :/

Well, the notion of "I have become self aware! Now I am cured of all mental ailments!!" is more of a Hollywood thing. If that were true to reality therapy, self help, and medication wouldn't be as big of a business as it is now. Just like physical injuries, mental injuries (such as trauma) don't just immediately disappear once you start healing. It is a gradual process

If there is one thing I have come to realize in dealing with my issues, and talking to friends about theirs, is that no matter how conscious you are of a behavior, positive or negative, it is really difficult to not default to said behavior.

bizarrely, despite this game being bad I found its story very good, if it weren't for the flaws and the silly things I would say that compared to heavy rain it is more interesting and has plot twists a little better worked and less imprevisives.

I think it’s because the style is copy pasted from Twin Peaks which has incredible writing and a unique tone

@@Ooweeeooo yes but i also think the director just operates on the exact same wavelength as david lynch. they're kindred spirits

oh yeah, this game has a way better story than heavy rain​@@brunopereira-gx7dp

“Genius”? I’d say “bizarre”. Maybe I have to play it to understand it but it all just seems weird

Considering his first trip through hell ended with him pointing out this is the first time something tried to attack him, yes.

I love main characters that act like they know they're the main character. Leon in RE4 is another one. i love the self awareness.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉😢😢

the original babygirl/j

Yeah it seems like it, a bizarre trip in the best possible way

The game is obviously heavily inspired by Twin Peaks (which is incredibly popular in Japan), which has a similar awkward and "weird" tone, dialogue-wise. So, I bet the Japanese version is like that too. Maybe even more so.

Yakuza

shenmue

I saw this post in my milk

Precisely why Yakuza holds up very well until this day

The OG Resident Evil games really hits the mark with this. It's a shame the remakes tuned it down so much.

The Ancients never took Samuel Colt into account when they were planning the inevitable invasion of earth.

"I guess we found his weakness... bullets." - LL Cool J in 2004's Mindhunters

Hey if it ain’t broke don’t fix it 👌

9mm, safety? always off

Sorry for rambling, I just wanted to emphasize how much this wierd old game means to me. :)

My condolences. May your friend's memory still remain with you..❤

@@dafilmqueen556 thank you! :) I carry him with me everywhere, in the form of a tattoo on my arm. :)

It’s a good thing that you still have that copy. It’s always nice to have a memory of someone that you cared for.

Along with Yakuza 1 og English dubbed version

Too bad they couldn't make lightning strike twice with the sequel.

@@AsherBunnyman vi ubi

It's not "so bad it's good" in the same way a b movie can be. I assume this is where you drew your example from, maybe I am wrong. A videogame is a different medium and a generally different experience. There are generally great things about this game. The dialogue, the music, the concepts, the story, the character development, etc. Even if these things all fail in execution in some spots, the game generally is a great game. Is an entertaining experience as far as "can I define this by arbitrary metrics we know that can make this medium bad or good?" No. There are objectively terrible things as well. Liking it or not of course is subjective. But b movies tend to fail at everything and are often a product of creators delusional aspirations and egos. The narcissism engrained in a person to go "yeah, this is good. No matter what I made, it's great, because I'm Neil breen." (For example.)

This is almost like Tommy Wiseau's The Room of survival horror games.

Silent Hill was also influenced by Jacob's Ladder.

@@Disconnect350 wasn’t it’s map also inspired by Oregon after someone saw Kindergarten Cop

@@Disconnect350 silent hill was influenced by American movies, basically out of necessity. The team that made the game was Konami b-team, so they didn't have the funds to travel to America for reference material, so they used amaerican movies as all of their reference material. The school is also modeled off of kindergarten cop.

@@gamerguy6990 lol I’ve seen that picture and they sure do look similar.

@@nicklafleur7620 - Even weirder: Mary and Laura's outfits in Silent Hill 2 are really similar to Nic Cage's wife and child in Con*Air.

I was JUST thinking anyone with that name would have freaked tf out

And it becomes even scarier (or funny) when you learn that YORK IS NOT THE REAL ONE

I mean, York isn't wrong. The whole 'murdering and the skull-collecting' thing was deeply disturbing and perverted. But drinking out of something that you've pissed into is just *weird*. Just... ew. Is it really that hard to keep your drinking and pissing skulls separate?

You need to watch Twin Peaks if you haven't

It can be difficult to do correctly. It's kind of decievingly difficult.

This game captures twin peaks better than just about anything I’ve seen.

It's not novel: it's just, sadly, not very common.

York is zach the whole time when he is saying his "fbi special agent Francis York Morgan please call me York " he's actually saying Francis Zach Morgan " please call me York which is why some characters act like "yeah Right york". The channels i found this info on is Welcome to Greenvale and Deadly premonition archive s

@@maddogmajimaswifey3868 Then why does Emily ask who Zach is?

@@Alexander59059 Well she probably heard him referring to another Zach so maybe that's why she was curious

@@Alexander59059 she's actually asking who York is

Honestly, the only problem judging by this video to me is that the game seems to be completely mis-genred? It has no survival elements since you apparently have a infinite ammo strong gun a th the start and unlock more powerful weapons afterwards (which are also infinite ammo?) And the tone seems to be so farcical that calling it horror seems just fucking weird. Just to be clear, I didn't mind the tone, it seems to be an absolutely, gut-bustingly hilarious game, but it didn't feel even remotely like horror.

@@youtube-kit9450 In the time of 2010, survival horror woulda been best suited because it had "undead"/monsters, unnatural elements. Look at games such as lost planet, and Fear, it's just not as literally scary

We need the second game

@@youtube-kit9450 pp0p

The funny thing is that there is a part 2 for the switch and the side characters do make fun of him, because of that. Shrugging to one another as he "talks" to zack. Lol xD

I mean this in the most positive of ways, i hate you

@@MadWatcher ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jfVvE7GrdhU.html

Hope he does more like clock tower 3, Rule of Rose, Kuon, all that good janky-ass PS2-era survival horror stuff.

Pathologic is a masterpiece type beat

ngl this kind of contents is my comfort that let me rest lol

“Obscure”

@@questionablegreg4684 I mean, it isn't? I've never heard of it before, nobody else seems to either and nobody has ever brought it up before whenever it comes to discussions about older horror games.

Well, maybe its a universe where that hair color considered normal

Same man, its always "How old are you" - "No Way" - "Is that Dye or Genetic."

I think me and my other 3 brothers all had platinum blonde hair as kids. I imagine most likely... well, maybe thats not really his hair color but a signifier that the real person is there now n not just a background character, the scar being larger now is also a pretty telltale giveaway that the perspective changed, not that the hair color really matters but that the personality is changed.

@@ShaggyTheClown17 I always assumed his hair turned white after the incident he had as a child. (trying not to spoil it) as some kind of form of marie antoinette syndrome, due to the trauma

@@skelebonezone I dunno, usually if a kid has very light hair it'll grow darker over time, could just be another marker for the change in personality but not real physical change, either way

Plus the game doesn't nail home that Emily is supposed to be the love interest every 10 minutes. She can be viewed however by the player, and her character development would still make sense since she was genuinely helpful.

But you can also dress her up in a cat costume 😂

​@@cwookdevhot

@@cwookdev Only in the re-releases which are hot garbage. The original version is respectful.

th sequel lends some credence to this theory

If he were to exist to fight against the red seeds and solve the case, Zach would've had to start existing only when and after he had the urge to do so, not before and during, which is what we are introduced in the beginning of the game.

They could spend the next two decades making a dozen critically-acclaimed games, before anyone figures out that each and every story and design choice was actually randomly generated by picking words out of a hat.

Throw Kojima into the mix too.

​@@CheshireCadLuckily they have AI for that now lol

Precisely. The story is just that good, just that weird and mysterious. You will either love it or hate it. This game is just the perfect definition of that phrase.

exactly how ii feel. always glad to see people cover games ii can't play for one reason or another, especially when they can pull so many great gems out of them.

Just watch Twin Peaks.

if you liked this definitely go watch twin peaks!!! most of the quirks of deadly premonition are very direct references to tp

@@superfluousfreak as someone who LOVES twin peaks, I would not mind at all to have another series about a detective going to a quirky town, it can be it's on niche

Me too! And yeah, i watched Twin Peaks but this would be so good! I had a blast watching this video and I didn't know about that game at all! Also Twin Peaks is good but the second half of the second season is a tiny bit... Lacking....

Twin Peaks. My friend played Deadly Premonition, he had never even heard of twin peaks until I showed him some clips. I've been showing him the series and in his words, it is *literally* "Deadly Premonition the series" You can *not* overstate how many references to Twin Peaks in this game LOL it's amazing, as a twin peaks fan I love it

It certainly seems like a lot of work was put into the story and the characters but the problem was that they were limited by the tech at the time. The story is so all over the place but it has some genuine greatness in its potential

Hard to be accurate about a mental illness that's existence is debated.

like a broken clock being right twice a day ya know? makes it even funnier

Yep This man with his skills to react COLDLY to all of this complete bullshit is God Level

Jeff Kramer, also the voice of the legendary Seaman.

@@ibragimowbekhan0987 huh??

That would have more impact if the entire cast wasn't the same way.

So basically it’s *literally* the first strand-type game then. Just add in “Directed by Kojima” and people will consider it a masterpiece. Kojima, take some notes. This is how you make a real strand-type game!

A naked Norman Reedus and that freaky funky fetus.

Kojima wishes he could be a SWERY.

OMG MUST BE INSPIRED BY KOJIMA OMG GABE NEWELLL ????? OMG REALLY GAMER ????

Suda51, swery65 and Kojima all worked together when they were younger...

Sadly even though story is good actual gameplay was much much much worse than the first game. It was really boring to play unlike the first game. If they had removed all the filler in between it would be an actual good game

@@kaanaydogan5130 the skateboarding games are pretty cancer

That song is my favourite, it's in my daily music rotation

Also this is my second viewing now now knowing wou the fat tree guy actually is it will make this more interesting I will tell you my findings soon

Also pointless pls do a ryse son of Rome review it one of the best underrated gems I know

Harry best character

My findings I flipped him off each and every time

so you are saying its so ugly its beautiful

deadly premonition, if you're open to it, can be a damn fine game in terms of narrative and characters. York is certainly one of the msot interesting videogames characters I've seen.

play through all of SWERY's stuff, he's like what happens when you remove SUDA51's game design chops with a crowbar

i know what it feels like trying to find a game you have only vague information about. im happy you found it!

Who the hell was playing this in a public library?! As a librarian, If I saw someone playing this shit in front of kids at my library, I’d say something. Haha

You’re 100% allowed to use all our equipment for personal use, but not to play weird murder games in public, unfortunately. :P

@@iversiafanatic idk who that lady was but she really helped me get me into horror as a genre lol

Glad that you could find out what game it was in the end. This is the first time that I’ve ever seen gameplay of this and I’ve gotta say, despite all of its jank, I adore it already. The mixture of sheer whackiness, comedy and horror is just really funny to me and quite charming. I might need to get this myself on the Xbox 360 (I hear that the PC port is an awful port).

So many and they definitely add to the experience, a big part of DP's charm is the quirky characters. A few more to list is the cooking quests with emily, the delivery man Q sideline, even the darts game at the bar to get more inventory slots. Some side quests reward you with useful items such as the legendary guitar which is a melee weapon that never breaks (Melee is the easiest way to deal with enemies, one smack kill) or the infinite ammo submachinegun. I have to play this game over again on the Director's cut, I only ever completed the 360 version and I hear the Director's cut has a lot more lore as well as some improvements.

@@stephens3909 I played the 360 version first and I liked it so much, I got the Director's Cut on PS3, day 1. It's... slightly better looking? It does have extra cutscenes at the beginning and end that raise some questions. I haven't finished DP2, so I don't know if they even affect that game's lore. I completed that version 100% and it's still my only platinum trophy to date.

5 months too late but 🤓

@@zvezda4994_ thank you, bout time lol

6 months too late but 🤓

That's actually a really cool Observation 7 months too late but 🤓

@@beany1229 thank you, thank you

Yeah, aside from corny, the game is super well written

Yes that is nice, right Zach?

Same. I think it adds another special layer of WTF if your name is actually Zach. :)

the sequel isn't the best, but its an enjoyable continuation in my opinion. really wish we got a boss fight with WIlly though.

It's one of my faves as well. Also, the way it portrayed George Woodmans relationship to Emily, his mother and his speech in the bar if you have a drink with him. Made me cry.

i love york and i love how his voice actor gets emotional at the end....but i really doubt its your fav. in a game, thats just silly

Yeah, I think the game does a lot right, mostly in the writing; so much so that I kind of take exception to calling it a bad game, I'd call it an extremely flawed but good game because it has so much heart and passion that shines through. It's really much more than the sum of its parts. if we can call games like Killzone and Resistance good just for being technically competent then I think we should be able to extend a little generosity to an ambitious little game like DP.

@@Exel3nce Are you really gatekeeping favorite video games? That's dumb and you should feel bad.

Same. I didn't know how much I cared about the town and characters until shit really hit the fan.

I felt Kaysen wasn't 100% necessary though, George would have been enough

yea sure buddy

Bffr

have u not played any games

Straight facts. York is one of the most well rounded main characters I‘ve encountered in gaming and the supporting characters rarely ever miss

its true look at RE it's basically just a bunch of anime archetypes with no real personality. But essentially I don't think video games need to rely on developing characters the way a book or something does.

Yeah. All of your partners were either murderous psychos or got brutally murdered themselves, and Zach doesn't need York as much as York needed Zach. It felt depressing. However if you clear side quests as Zach there are some different dialogues from if you cleared them as York. For example you can get a "sensual" car washing from Gina at the gas station if you clear her sidequest. If you clear it as York he will say it was terrible and that Zach might like it, and as Zach he'll say something like "I wonder what York would think of it". They really thought of everything.

the town became a liminal space

this!! very true!!!

Honestly, i was thinking that too! It really is one of my favorite aspects of this game, regardless how bad of a game it was. Like, it genuinely got that part really accurate and well done for once

DID? Detective In Distress?

@Vincent Yu Dissociative Identity Disorder! An often misunderstood complex trauma disorder stemming from severe trauma, where the mind forms more than one "person" to cope with it.

@@pumpkinicing Thank you for clarifying that. Now I feel terrible for making a joke of it. I personally know someone formally diagnosed with it, so I should have known better. Rereading your original comment, I can totally see what you’re saying.

PS1 Mizzurna Falls is another Twin Peaks game, and it most certainly influenced Deadly Premonition. There's also Alan Wake.

Harvester

Alan wake, silent hill (to an extent)

Thanks Noemi :)

Why would you spoil it like that

It’s something that I never played growing up on my 360. It’s backwards compatible on Xbox One though so I may try it that way. Despite the flaws of the game in a technical aspect, it looks fun as all hell.

Damn that's great. I wish I would meet Swery one day

Actually perfect on December but it ended man

The thing is that the original XBox 360 release does not have all the bugs & glitches that most of the later ports & releases contain.

twin peaks? Like the main character spoke with Diane at the recorder

This game should be honestly compared to what happened when you let Kojima run completely rampant on his creative ID.