Was looking for a new mouse and razer conveniently dropped this at the perfect time for me. I wanted a bit higher and further back hump than the v2 or ultra and this is exactly that lol. The sensor position for me almost didn't make a difference at all, if anything it made me aim better almost instantly. I actually prefer an external battery over rechargeable as you don't have to worry about constantly charging or worrying about the battery all the time, and if it dies you just swap in a new one. Also definitely use an AAA with aluminium. The mouse lasts longer because the battery wont degrade. I guess one downside with that is the cost of buying batteries, and rechargeable batteries weigh more. The coating is quite smooth initially but as soon as you start gaming it's almost like it's stuck to my hand so very good. No regrets so far.
I have it right now and all I can say is that it definitely doesnt feel like a viper, it's more like zowie s2 gpx mix, the coating wont get shiny like a lot of mice get and the best feature is the sensor placement. It feels like the aim comes from the wrist. Im not really into weight and had mice from 40g and weight is just placebo and an excuse why your aim is trash. I recommend this mouse
Great review, haus. Your views match mine. Such a great mouse and not just for the price. It isn’t my main, but I did use it for about a week and had no complaints at all about the performance. The sensor position did take some getting used to. If they release a v3 pro with a regular sensor placement and rechargeable battery, it would likely be seeing a lot more use from me.
I was hoping they released the hyperspeed first to get feedback on the shape before they made a pro version. Would be really smart on their end but this shape is a bit too long, especially considering the hump is more pronounced now. a medium version would be perfect. We'll see.
I'm just one of the only few that loves the forward placing sensor and so far my experience have been pretty good. Shame when the Pro does come out, the sensor will be pushed back. This mouse, rather than the Cobra, is more of a mixed issue.
I totally agree that weight/battery is not an issue but for me it's the sensor placement. Forward sensor really throws my aim specially that its back heavy. It forces you to lift the front of the mouse instead of the whole mouse when flicking which sometimes throws of the sensor tracking. Would be nice if there would be a mini version of this with a center positioned sensor.
I always just thought that it was USB-C lithium that messed up the battery indicator, are you saying it's any lithium battery, or is it because you are using aluminium foil as well? The Orochi v2 (my unit) came with AA Lithium, so I am guessing that the battery indicator still works with the full sized AA lithium.
IMPORTANT PSA: Regards the battery situation - on Synapse there's an option under the Power tab, where you can select the type of battery (alkaline, lithium, Ni-Mh) so the status of it can be correctly reported.
It sadly does not work if you use a battery of different size. For example in this case AAA and lithium ion. During the time I reviewed the product, there were only options to change the battery type (alkaline, rechargeable & lithium if I remember correctly).
First and foremost the shape is boring - it resembles GPW / GPX too much. The "mouse internals" debate is also very pointless. I have old Zowie mice with pixart 3310 and 3360 and can't tell the difference in click latency or motion latency vs modern gaming mice. A lot of focus in the industry on those hardware signal input latencies which are a small fraction of the latency that comes from mechanical design of the buttons and the switch itself (tensioning, total travel distance and rebounce time) If your mouse click feels bad and inconsistent it doesn't matter how low the latency of the signal is or if you have optical switches. And all of the clicks in Razer mice (and most of the optical switches) feel bad. Especially after 2-3+ months of use. Razer hasn't changed at all over the years. They focus all their resources and brain power on the things that improve mice performance by like 0.01%, but ignore things like build quality , durability and cosistency of the clicks between units. I don't care about 4kHz polling rate either, so it's an easy skip for me.
"This mouse isn't in my top 5, or top 10, even though it _laundry list of good things_ and well... I guess that's it for this video" ~Joe Biden or something.
This by no means a "bang for your buck." In the U.S. at least, you will need to buy a 24 pack of batteries every 2 months if you want to make use of the 4K polling rate. That's a cost of around $50 every two months, which adds up to $300 a year. That's with using AAA batteries to not have a 80+ gram weight. Assuming you stick to AA batteries, and use mostly 1K hz polling rate, you'll end using roughly 2.5 batteries a month with their claim of 280 hours per battery. Now, assuming you do sometimes turn on the 4K, let's just say 2 batteries a month. AA packs are usually 20 instead of 24, and a bit more expensive at $55-ish USD. So at best the cost over a year is in the $125 USD range, or far higher at $370+ if you want the lower weight. It's a better cost saving measure to just buy a mouse you can charge.
I actually felt very good about the shape change. The only downside was the sensor position, which I'm looking forward to being centrally located in the Pro version, but it's unlikely to be released any time soon I guess.
In comparison to other high performance gaming mice (Ie. Deathadder v3 pro, g pro superlight, razer viper v2 pro, Ec2-cw), this is almost $100 USD cheaper than all of them.
the sensor placement made me hit more highscores in kovaaks. At 82g with AA this made me accurate with faster mousepad but it made me fatigue even faster as I have smaller hand at 16.5x10. Though I have AAA to AA converter and made my mouse at 65g.
hey haus, is the softness of the endgame em-c even remotely close to the odin infinity, or should i look at the gamesense radar 2023? im looking for something a little less firm than the ac2 and closer to the odin infinity, used a hayate otsu xsoft and didnt like how plushy it was.
qual o prolema do sensor mais para frente? eu uso com ele um pouco pra frente no pwnage, mas nem sei porque parce apenas quemelhorou micro ajuste e como uso pad speed ajudou...
I would rather get the vgn or zaopin pro for the price & quality tbh. This "v3" just feels too lazily produced for me considering they used to create banger products like the viper mini & orochi and I can't support this kind of production from someone like RAZER. Companies that release products that are like 2 steps back of what they used to create should not be rewarded.
@IronCaan Haus is Finnish. I bet if you recorded videos in Finnish as your 2nd language you would have an accent as well. I personally really enjoy Haus’ voice and presentation style. He’s way more measured and professional than other mouse reviewers out there.
GPX2 is the goat boys. Just spend the money. The clicks are flawless all the way around. Scroll wheel improved. Motion latency is imperceptible in game and Windows environment. Extremely crispy feel. Battery life embarasses the others. This is the one.
Clicks are flawless? Horrible sounding, they disturb even through closed back headset. Side buttons also horrible, coating decent but nowhere near the best ones. Included grip tape that is a mockery to grip tapes. Seems to have QC issues too especially with the white coating. Battery life and performance is indeed great, although for that price and so newly released the performance wasn't as good as I expected.
@@lepari9986 Yes I own the GPX1 and the trigger buttons are an overall improvement. Oh well they click and you can hear through closed back headset that is due to the snappy and precise feel of the break on the mouse click. It is the best mouse click you can find. This being said Logitech's QC was bad on the GPX1, I had a scroll wheel fail and battery loose like Boardzy all within 9 months.
