The Best Budget Air Mattress Ever Made? - OneTigris Obsidian Insulated Sleeping Pad Review

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I had such high hopes for this OneTigris Sleeping Pad but time and time again I was left both cold and uncomfortable.
Unfortunately after all of my testing I can tell you all that the Obsidian falls short in many ways and it is my recommendation that it is avoided.
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Therm-a-Rest Xtherm Sleeping Pad Stats :
Price : When I originally purchased the Xthrem 10 years ago, it cost me $150 for the regular size. Now, the Xtherm runs around $250 - give or take depending on where you order it from.
Colors : There are 2, both are shades of gray - one is bluish gray and the other is gray gray like you see here.
Versions : There are two versions, a mummy cut and a rectangle version. There is also a version that is even more lightweight - I prucahsed the heavier model as it is more durable and it is warmer.
Materials : 70D nylon on the bottom withstands the wear and tear of extended expedition use, while 30D ripstop nylon on top keeps it light and packable.
Weight : 15.5oz
Sizes : Regular, Regular Wide, and Large
Dimensions Stored : 9” x 4.5”
Dimensions Inflated : 20” Wide, 72” Long, 3” Thick
R-Value : An incredible 7.3 - that is very high for an air mattress.
How? : Therm-a-Rest was able to accomplish this high R-value due to two thermal technologies that they implement into this pad - one is called the Triangular core Matrix and the other is ThermaCapture - both of these you can look up on the Therm-a-rest web site.
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@gerrygadget 4 месяца назад

Cut the pad open and find out what's actually inside

@JoeMac1983 3 месяца назад

I own it and have wanted to see someone do that as well. I actually like mine but I haven't tried it in the cold yet.

@Mrsmith74 4 месяца назад

I've had this pad since last October & used it around 8 times from 0c to 12c & haven't suffered from the cold, also found it perfectly comfortable, maybe yours is faulty?? Also, I don't think you can complain that a big mat takes more air to inflate it!

@marysvillebadasser1 4 месяца назад

That’s why they include the bag Luke!!! It’s a big pad!

@williamowens21 4 месяца назад

Dude. The fast forward of blowing up the pad is comedic genius. I'm dying here. I love the channel! Great info, trusted reviews, and the best outdoor comedy going.

@Bronco6338 4 месяца назад

I'm a big fan of your channel and have been waiting for this review. I've had this pad for a while now and I was stunned at your review. I've had really good luck with this pad. Has kept me completely warm at 18 degrees F. I didn't touch the ground and I'm a 215lb side sleeper. I'm comfortable on it and find it be comparable to the REI Helix. I'm very surprised you had such bad luck with it. Could you have a faulty pad? I've used this pad quite a few times and for the money I feel it can't be beat. Keep up the good work Luke!

@JoeMac1983 3 месяца назад

Agree. I don't experience the issues he's had either. No issues touching the ground at all.

@johanvanbeek7138 4 месяца назад

This is the worst flip flop you've ever done. You've been singing the praises of this pad on multiple camps and now you're not happy with it? All you said in the past was that if you sit on it the pad bottoms out and you said they all do that. I can feel the heat coming back of mine so no problem there. As for inflating a winter pad with your mouth, no one does that.

@SickofPervs 4 месяца назад

You do really detailed reviews. I am not a camper but you make it interesting enough for me to watch 👍

@ghostwarrior0329 4 месяца назад

Maybe because of his matter of fact tone and without going "uuhh" every couple of words. Also his actual real testing of the things he buys is quite nice. He also has videos of him just filming his outdoor adventures. Some get a little crazy with the weather

@briandoolittle3422 4 месяца назад

A sleeping pad like this uses two methods of insulation. Reflective layers that reflect radiated heat, and separated small air pockets to decrease convective heat loss. If you are bottoming out, the the air chambers aren't acting as convective insulation, and even worse, direct contact with the ground means conductive heat loss. In other words, your comfort issues are the reason why this pad is cold. It has little to do with the R - Value of the pad. If you where sinking in less, it would be warmer. You may want to contact One Tigris about it. Other commenters suggest they aren't sinking in as much. Yours might be faulty.

@abenator85 3 месяца назад

This is why I'm still tempted to make the plunge and buy it anyway. I think I'd live to regret not making this purchase.

@abenator85 3 месяца назад

Great comment.

@bethhodge9724 Месяц назад

I just got this pad in the mail I ordered it yesterday, I’m so hoping it will work out for me on a cot I do moto camping, my most favorite air mat I had gallbladder surgery and I was staying at my brothers house after surgery and I brought my cot and air mattress, he took my air mattress outside to blow it up with his air compressor well he blew it up alright pow! And sadly the company that made that pad is out of business now, so I bought a big Agnes air core and a Trekology UL80 both are lousy for comfort! I’m tired of trying to find a comfortable air mattress wish I had one like the one I had it was a trazon air pad and I absolutely loved it!! It had double chambers it wasn’t build for warmth but as far as comfort the comfort was amazing!! I have my sister-in-law to do orders for me and I’ll be picking this oneTigris air mattress up from her house today I sure hope it works well for me, after listening to this review I’m gonna say I’m concerned. But we’ll see.

@Mysteryman93 4 месяца назад

Folks. Just save the extra $ and get the neo xtherm. The best you can get. However, if you're not planning to camp in cold temperatures, just buy the decathlon R value 5 pad for about 80 bucks.

@jeffoswald9549 4 месяца назад

The time lapse of Luke blowing up the pad!😂

@O_l_i_v_e_r391 4 месяца назад

I have this pad, i bought it after you first showed it a few months ago. So far I have used it on several camping trips and have used it on a number of occasions where i had a short shift at work and needed to stay over. And granted i have never used an expensive pad, to date this is the most expensive ive used. But i have to say, of all the pads I have ever used this is by far the best and most comfortable pad i have ever used, and i am a 240 pound guy. Though to inflate it i use a small battery pump.

@dominofive5075 4 месяца назад

I agree. Im 200lbs and this is my motocamp pad. I've had many trial runs and I'll be bringing it with me to Alaska this summer. no issues touching the ground while on my side. I wonder if he received a defective product.

@slobodank76 4 месяца назад

@@dominofive5075 seems to contradict bosqueenet review ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8HWZIu1H3IA.html

@JoeMac1983 3 месяца назад

@@dominofive5075Same. No issues with me touching the ground either even when on my side. I find it very comfortable.

@chrisv7787 4 месяца назад

Thanks Luke for a great review. I own this pad and have had great experiences. Used it in similar temperatures to Luke ( I’m in NC as well) and was always warm and slept great. I do agree that care needs to be taken to make sure it is fully inflated but after that it’s been a great pad for me.

@derwulf6338 4 месяца назад

Hi, thats strange. I am heavier than you and I slept last Saturday on the Obsidian. I never touched the ground. We had 9°C and very high humidity at night 2m close to a lake and I had no temperature problems. Ok, I dont know, how it performs below that, but with 9°C ist was perfect. The only drawback I had, is that the Obsidian has not much grip. Its easy to slide down. I think the comfort is very good. Btw. Do you have Gruezi Bag in the US? I used it that night the first time and the Biopod wool survival was fantastic. I didn`t felt anything of the humidity and no chance for mosquitos.

@raymonddaniels1658 4 месяца назад

I have the rectangular wide Light Tour 5.8 pad, Weighs 680g, and comes with the air pump sac. R value is 5.8, and being a hefty bloke that would make a pregnant elephant jealous, it hasn't let me down. I use a small air pump, which really takes not much time. The only downer is that you have to make sure that the valve has been tightly sealed. Otherwise, you wake up thinking you are on a cheap summer pad. It is over the £100 now. I bought it when it was under that price. For me it is worth it. I go wild camping in the Highlands of Scotland.

@philippek81 4 месяца назад

I have the Naturehike version of this exact same mat and am happy with it too. For some reasons, when I bought it the Naturehike was a little bit cheaper than the Lightour version. They are now on Aliexpress for approx 100 $.

@greeno6064 3 месяца назад

Watching your video I'm getting more frustrated with you. I have been wild camping for many years and this sleeping pad is BY FAR the most comfortable warmest cheapest pad I have ever owned. I recently went wild camping in the Welsh mountains with my 2 sons, I was toasty warm and yet both my sons said they were cold

@Vormulac1 4 месяца назад

Interesting, I have one of these and although I've yet to use it in really cold conditions I have found the moment I lay on it I'm aware of my body heat coming back up at me and it feels really warm. I thought it was pretty comfortable as well but you definitely have more experience of it in different conditions than I do.

@Bronco6338 4 месяца назад

I've had good experiences with this pad

@emc2trooper894 4 месяца назад

Bro yoy brake my heart 😢. I really liked it from the start, also saw your review video and had higher hopes than ever. Bought it but didnt have the chance to check it out in the wild... But slept 2-3 nights in my house floor and it was really comfortable (im ~70 kg) i will update when i try it out 😊

@Thes564 4 месяца назад

One Tigris has had way too many items that simply are junk so i wouldnt buy anything from them at all and as for a good sleeping pad i will stick with my US military self inflating sleeping pad or just a foam pad as with Tigeris one the entire company should be thrown in the trash.

@browsman2328 4 месяца назад

I’ve had an XTherm for 8 years and I’m happy with it, it never failed me. It cost well below $200 when I bought it. If I was looking for a sleeping pad today I would be reluctant to pay the current XTherm price and look for a cheaper option.

@KaylynnStrain 4 месяца назад

NO THANKS !!! I'll stick to my Klymit insulated Staatic V pad

@thomasuzarski7368 4 месяца назад

I bought it, I use it on rei Kingdom cot, and use a mitary mummy bag. Works fine for me.

@wr1120 3 месяца назад

I've read a lot of the comments down here, not all, but every one of them from owners that I did read , around eight, says they slept quite comfortable on this pad 🤔

@tomlackey22 4 месяца назад

I almost purchased this pad , but went for the naturehike 5.0 I have not used it in the field yet, but will let you know how that pad performs for me. Thanks for all that you do.

@bigalcervantes5118 4 месяца назад

I like one tigris products, I wonder why the pad has failed so badly. I wonder if one tigris didn't produce a product test.

@tburgoyneco75 4 месяца назад

Got mine about 6 weeks ago after waiting for it to get back in stock. I used it for 2 nights over the weekend and found it to be very comfortable. I did find I needed to add extra air to firm it up, but I also have an REI helix that I have to do the same thing with, needs extra air. I can’t speak for the warmth because the temperature didn’t get below 55F but it did feel warm

@Ian-yu6hx 3 месяца назад

Owned for about three months now and it has performed perfectly. I’m okay with the review because I’m hoping less people will buy and it will go on sale so I can purchase another one for the wife

@JedMcAruk 4 месяца назад

I was expecting a praise. I have been using it since early spring and I absolutely love it. To be fair I have never had a chance to sleep on a termarest pad. I am 1.90cm and a 95kg and I have no issues with comfort and I immediately feel my body warmth radiating back. My experience was totally different. Ps. My pad is from latest batch, they were out of stock for a while. Thanks for another great video

@GarySimpson-ku5sf 4 месяца назад

Hi Luke it’s Gary from Liverpool got this pad from Amazon and I sent it back for a refund not worth the money great review to let everyone no not to by it take care my friend chat soon

@JoeMac1983 3 месяца назад

You should have tried it out. I think he got a lemon. Mine has been great and I'm not experiencing any of the issues he had. Other commenters here share my opinion.

@jaredgrow 4 месяца назад

I've had the same pad and I've been super warm and comfortable. I think maybe that little pump can't put enough pressure. Try going as hard as possible with the inflation bag. I squeeze it with my knees to get the last bit of pressure in there. I'm upper 200's weight wise and if I inflate the pad as hard as I can it's perfect and I'm a side or belly sleeper.

@NothingbutDust734 4 месяца назад

From all the negatives you've mentioned, it simply cannot handle your weight thus cannot keep you off from the ground. One reason not to include the weight limit for the product.

@jeanalz 4 месяца назад

I'm using this sleeping pad and I have no problems so far. I'm 6 ft, 200 lbs, and I tried it at 0°C a couple of times. It's comfortable (side sleeper), quiet, and lightweight, but not ultralight. For the price, definitely was a good purchase. Just a note, I inflated the sleeping pad with the Flextail Zero Pump, but it didn't reach full inflation... So, I tried using the stuff sack as well.. That being said, I'm not sure blowing it up with your lungs alone will get you to full inflation.. I believe using the stuff sack allows you to add more air..

@abenator85 3 месяца назад

Thanks for that tip as well.

@abenator85 3 месяца назад

The other fella that did a review on this mat said he was fine down to 10°F in the snow. Now I'm gonna have to try it on my own because you're the first person to say it wasn't warm. The reviews on Amazon claims it performed well for them, too. I'm also planning to use a closed-cell with it as well. Paranoid about my sleep mats. 😂 Anyway, thanks for the review.

@drunkenmonkey31 4 месяца назад

Thanks for the review, I did consider this 1 but I live in the UK and it became unavailable……glad it did now

@THEGREATWHITEBUFFALOSOUIX 4 месяца назад

Thank you Luke STRENGTH AND HONOR

@Thesrp_99 3 месяца назад

I used this pad while in the military service and took it out to many field events both hot and cold, honestly it all comes down to how picky you are, if you are cold well wear more layers , if you are hot then wear less layers. About conform well suck it up you camping it’s not your fancy bed.

@Dennisgoesout 3 месяца назад

Hi Luke! I can completely agree with you. I don't have the Onetigris sleeping pad, but the Naturehike 5.8R. It looks exactly the same except for the color and is just as uncomfortable as you describe the Onetigris sleeping pad. The R value is also not right under real conditions. Just above freezing it was definitely too cold for this sleeping pad. Thanks for the video and greetings from Germany 👋🏻

@chalion8399 4 месяца назад

I have this pad and I think it's fine. I car camp sometimes and use a Zenbivy bed with this mattress and have no issues, but I'm also not going out in the winter.

@lormoua7562 4 месяца назад

I have this exact pad and spent three nights in Northen Wisconsin with temperatures around 43-48 F degrees. I'm about 140lbs and did not have any issues with warmth or my body touching the ground sleeping on side nor back. For the sleep system I use a Naturehike sleeping bag LW180 as my main sleeping bag and I insert my near zero down sleeping bag as blanket cover. It is actually the most comfortable pad I've own to date. If you're using this for kids or someone that weighs less then 150lbs, I would recommend this as a cheaper alternative to the xtherm.

@peacefulscrimp5183 4 месяца назад

The joe biden of sleeping pads 😔

@CampWithMatt 4 месяца назад

So I have this pad (bought it for myself) and not had these issues, I've only slept it down to 32/0 and not had any issues. I'm a side sleeper and prefer it to my thermarest as I don't geg a dead arm. I think your two main issues are basically the same, your body is getting through to the ground and you're losing heat as a result. But it definitely doesn't work for you. If it helps I'm 160lb and 6 foot. Maybe that's significant? Who knows.

@traviswilliams6101 4 месяца назад

I was lucky enough to get a neo xtherm for basically free when I was sent it by mistake instead of the $40 pad I actually ordered.

@JoeMac1983 4 месяца назад

I'm jealous

@Im_With_Stupid 4 месяца назад

Thanks to the rocket scientists that work at Amazon, no doubt. I got a free $280 tent from them because it had a very minor defect. I ordered a replacement which they promptly sent, but the shipper never picked up the old one for return. Month after month they would threaten to bill me for it and I'd have to get on chat, tell them that nobody has come to get it and schedule a new return that again nobody would ever come to collect, then in a month I'm getting another email threatening to charge me for it. Finally, I got on the phone with them and raised hell about it and asked them why they even wanted it back so bad anyway because they can't sell a defective product and the girl was like "You know what? You're right. Just keep it." So, now I have two of them and one of them is brand new, just has a tiny little defect that has zero impact on it's usability or performance. I also got two backpacking chairs because the first one appeared to be lost in shipping. Support sent me another one straightaway and they *both* arrived on the same day with the first one never showing as delivered.

@greeno6064 3 месяца назад

Also I am a side sleeper and weigh a lot more than you little guy... And I have never ever felt the ground beneath me so... Either you didn't inflate the pad correctly or you have another agenda here.. I can't decide

@arturskass4695 4 месяца назад

I would suggest testing the "Deckathlon FORCLAZ MT900 Insulated " the 5.4 R vesrion pad an excelent pad for the money. Really impressed with that one for 135 EUR

@dougdixonhull Месяц назад

Mybe, it's unfair compering this pad to the Xtherm and should compere it to pads and the same price point. You wouldn't compere a Porsche with a ford! I started with the cheaper UL80 Trekology pads and had nothing but trouble with tgem letting me down, deflating during the night. I decided to up my budget and bought the Exped Versa R4 and it has been fantastic really warm and comfortable. I also bought a Lighttour 3.5 mat for my daughter and it has been excellent. Unless you are planning on going into the mountains and sleeping in winter conditions, the Xtherm is very expensive for most people and their are good mid-price pads that will perform just as well for three seasons of the year. Good review but maybe slightly unfair on this product.

@Bill_tyler 2 месяца назад

Therma rest x therm, the best sleeping pad EVER made??! 🤣 that settles it, Luke knows NOTHING about actual backpacking gear ! 🤣

@CazSoma Месяц назад

Hello Luke, I'm honestly quite shocked by the combination of your reviews of this mat. In the last review you mentioned the inflation sack being crazy big. This review you don't have this capacitous sack with you and complain about how many breaths you used to fill the mat, despite owning an electric pump and having said lung inflation is bad for the mat in the last review. The obsidian can inflate in about 8 sack loads (tho def not 4 as claimed by the manufacturer!). You find the inflation sack an effort to use: most people use these by kneeling on the sack on the ground rather than pushing it up against their shin or whatnot. I can see you're on rocky ground, but there is some soft earth behind you to do this. Doing this helps you fill the mat up to the correct pressure, as your body weight is providing the force needed to inflate the mat properly. This keeps your body off the ground, and warm. You mention not feeling your heat being reflected back at you from the Obsidian, all I can say, lying on it atm, is that I definitely do... No idea how it compares to competitor insulated mattresses but it feels like it's palpably generating heat to me. There is only one other, more expensive, competitor product brought up continually throughout both reviews. I feel the Obsidian offers much better value for money than that product.

@darillfow 2 месяца назад

Ok then what sleeping pad would you recommend? I ain't paying no 200 dollars for one, that's ridiculous, you can buy a queen size bed for that price. Jeez! I don't understand why sellers have to be so unreasonable when it comes to costs these days.

@alexk1486 4 месяца назад

A pocket cell style pad is always going to have the bottom-out issue, no matter the manufacturer - REI, Sea to Summit, etc. Not to mention this style of pad will always take forever to inflate compared to more simple horizontal/vertical chamber pads. The R-Value for this pad is independently tested by SGS (Swiss testing company). What I've been seeing lately is R-Values rocketing up but users being underwhelmed. Clearly the test has flaws that are being exploited.

@beschuitfluiter 4 месяца назад

This pad looks like one of the generic AliExpress pads tbh. I'm still using my Exped synmat 7 UL with R3.1. Works well, combined with closed foam aluminum coated pad to extend temp range

@bernielamont825 4 месяца назад

Hey Luke, can you do a review of the Nemo Tensor Extreme? I have one and used it only for 5 nights, I found it to be uncomfortable but I would like to see a video from someone more knowledgable than myself before I give up on it. It's plenty warm but I don't get a good nights sleep on it. HELP ME!

@AttackorAdapt 4 месяца назад

Ive been using the Klymit static V insulated, here in the NWT Canada. It performs well. I can inflate the double, which I also have, with my mouth in less breaths than it took you to do this pad. I'm also a fat f*k smoker. Youre a short stroker lol. Good review, wont purchase this pad based on this.

@IMDARKFIRE007 4 месяца назад

You get what you pay for....there is no such thing as high end gear for cheap. Companies aren't going to use high end materials and charge 80 bucks, put aside hitting the ground, the bs R rating is proof. At some point manufacturing and marketing set a certain price, and below that price they lose money. If you want high end gear at a deal your level BEST bet is eBay. Luke sells good slightly used stuff too on his site at good prices.

@joette8510 4 месяца назад

I recently had to buy an air mattress to use as a bed for a short time. I bought a King Koil 20 in height queen size with a built in pump and fully flocked with durable sides and top. It has coil construction and raised pillow on one end. It is very comfortable and can adjust the firmness. I’ll be keeping it to use for overnight guests or family camping. It is perfect for those people that can’t get up from a low level. It is quite heavy, not sure how much it weighs. The cost was $158 on sale. Is this something you would possibly be able to test out for those that need to have more like a bed versus a sleeping mat or cot? I’m interested in your opinion.

@stevestormssr5492 4 месяца назад

I have to say I am disappointed to say the least. I watched you use this in many videos, and it seemed like you liked it. I ordered the no (longer available) Tomount tent and, the One Tigris pad at the same time. It has to be more comfortable than my mummy pad! Well, since the One Tigris cot is so hard this pad should be fine for me then. I do have a thick Yoga pad for ground sleeping and insulation.

@jakesy2569 3 месяца назад

I bought this pad based on your original video. I took it out last week and the temp was 9 degrees celcius during the night. I had a foil mat down, the pad and my sleeping bag and was awake cold all night. As you say, theres no way the R value is 5.2. I’m a thin guy aswell so its not my weight.

@squirrelred64 4 месяца назад

There is no sleeping pad that is impressive,,,full stop. Prolonged use of any inflatable pad degrades it's overall lifespan,,so become Bear Grylls and stay in a hotel 😂

@wadearnold7863 3 месяца назад

Are insulated pads bad in hot weather? I mean do they just block cold or are they hot to sleep on. I’m used to foam pads from Boy Scouts in the 90s…

@jackvoss5841 4 месяца назад

I listened to your comments about the Therm-A-Rest exotherm, and bought one. I agree about warmth and weight. However, my experience with it was not good at all. Their inflation procedures are based on a poorly operating wing valve. They took something that should be simple, and designed something that is a large pain in the neck. My exotherm would get soft by morning. On the second trip it went entirely flat. I now use a foam pad; it has no moving parts. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

@niceguy191 4 месяца назад

Were you just using the wing part or also screwing down the other part of the valve? I've seen others have issues with the new thermarest valve because they don't realize you need to do both

@jackvoss5841 4 месяца назад

@@niceguy191 G’day, Nice. I was press fitting the inflation bag. That’s a more difficult job than it should be. Eventually, it would inflate. But it was a 10-15 minute ordeal. And it would deflate during the night. My old, self inflating Therm-A-Rest is 100% easy and reliable. But, about a foot too wide for this tent setup. My best to you. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

@greeno6064 3 месяца назад

Actually you have pissed me off so much... I am unsubsribing

@picaso023 4 месяца назад

It doesn't support wait! Laying on it in this video shows it does, my guess is that the thermal installation affects the air pressure in the matt as the external air in the tent cools down, it should be is stiffer shell, that might work.

@leedelmont4Yeshua 4 месяца назад

Hmm well many underneath comments say they own it and it's fine, good, along those lines... goes to show we all different... it is what it is..

@perilousjack1964 4 месяца назад

Wait a minute Luke, you never blow up pads, you have your wee gizmos to do that, bollocks,

@brentperron6914 2 месяца назад

What would be your recommendation currently for best budget insulated pad? Currently on the hunt for one now

@TennesseeSlim 4 месяца назад

The lifetime warranty is why i dont care about the price of the xlite and xtherm but the Uber light is absolutely garbage

@stevelopich408 4 месяца назад

Too bad I went and bought one anyway... Oh well. Use it until it breaks me or I break it.

@BC_Hunter 4 месяца назад

I love my Klymitt pad

@ArtofHunter 4 месяца назад

This pad looks no difference than all the cheap clones you see all over that are just rebranded china made pads.

@petemitchell6788 2 месяца назад

Most OneTigris products are very well marketed junk.

@mahmah441 3 месяца назад

You should take a look at the new MT 900 insolated from forclaz dude it's a cloud

@greeno6064 3 месяца назад

First of all you should d not try to inflate a sleeping pad with your moutn

@rockcityprepper9134 4 месяца назад

Thanks Luke. Dig it

@jeffereysampier6139 4 месяца назад

Thats to bad

@MrPrankster18 4 месяца назад

i watched the first video and purchased this pad. I used it once on a warmer night and slept comfortable, Im 210 lbs and never touched the ground. it has great quality. so far Im very pleased with my purchase..Most of my camping will be in warmer conditions. I wouljd purchase it again.

@ArtaghVril 4 месяца назад

Thank you Luke for this honest review! I was bout buying this since your first video, but now I'm happy I didn't. I'm still thinking bout buying the Trekology UL80 - because I'm just searching for a (not super) lightweight but very comfortable and budget-friendly pad. It doesn't even have to have the best R-value, it should only be comfortable til about 7°C/45°F. My current pad (Queedo Light Pad - is awesome, but I want it a bit thicker) has a little less than 2 and it's fine. The main thing is: it has to be available in the EU (without exaggerated shipping costs). Do you (or anyone else here) have any other recommendations?

@Im_With_Stupid 4 месяца назад

"very comfortable and budget-friendly" aren't things you usually find in the same sentence when it comes to sleeping pads, but I guess it depends on what your opinions of both are. I've never used the UL80 pad, but I do have experience with that valve system and I can tell you it is not good and gets leaky very quickly. Not living in the EU and thus not knowing what's there on the budget end, save Decathlon, I can't recommend an alternative to what you've already got, but what I can tell you is that saving your nickels for a high quality name brand pad is very worth it. You could, however, keep your eyes open for a used one on the secondary market. Usually there's nothing wrong with them and somebody is just replacing it with something better. Once in a while you'll find one for super cheap, but you've got to snap it up because if you don't someone else will. High quality, name brand sleeping pads aren't cheap and used ones are hot on the secondary market. Even if you get one that has a little pin hole in it somewhere, just find it in the bathtub and patch it.

@michaelogden5093 4 месяца назад

One Tigris… Aren’t they the ones that recommended you not use one of their tents in the rain?

@drug2 4 месяца назад

Boy nearly 1kg for a sleeping pad is just too heavy. Even decathlons 130€ mat is lighter. But the color and the R Value of the One Tigris are great but again its just to heavy for backpacking

@Im_With_Stupid 4 месяца назад

Of course it's lighter. It also has a significantly higher price because it's a better built pad. OT gear is junk designed to hook novice campers looking for a bargain, not a legit budget brand like Decathlon is.

@kevanhubbard9673 4 месяца назад

You sounded like Darth Vader blowing into that mat!

@chiefcliff 4 месяца назад

Question for a possible future video: Most of my trips involve multiple water crossings and I have a couple choices: I can walk right through, getting my boots wet and walking for some miles in wet shoes. I can take off my boots and go barefoot. Or I could pack extra water shoes of some kind and put them on; cross, and then exchange shoes again on other side. Each choice offer lots of disadvantages. I am not someone who can wear lite trail runners because of my ankles. Soooo, what's the answer? Are there ultra, ultra lite easy to put on shoes the would be worth the trouble to put on and take off. Or stick with my current method of walking straight through and living with wet feet for some time. What say you?

@Im_With_Stupid 4 месяца назад

If you don't want to shell out for some high quality, legitimately waterproof boots so you won't have to swap in and out all the time, just get some water shoes. They come in all different price, quality ranges and tread patterns, dry super fast and weigh next to nothing. Most of them just slip right on and are tight enough that your wet feet won't slide around in them and toss you off a rock. They also make good camp shoes and there ain't nothing better than a nice pair of airy camp shoes to relieve those swollen feet at the end of the day.

@greeno6064 3 месяца назад

I live in the UK and I bought this sleeping pad 2 months ago. I had to wait 4 weeks for delivery but boy was it worth the wait. Comfort, R Value and price absolutely beat anything else on the market.. 100% I would recommend

@stevekeddington4382 4 месяца назад

Thank you for your honest reviews of so many products

@Feb4u 2 месяца назад

Pleaseeeeeee can you do a video on the Paria Recharge XL sleeping pad?

@michaelogden5093 4 месяца назад

I got a feeling we’re going to see a lot of these pads available at the dollar store.

@tarawaukeri8928 4 месяца назад

Them shadez 😎 got more reflection from the frames than the lenses. 👍

@ByronWatsonCoachLifePro 4 месяца назад

Hi Luke, thanks for another outstanding video. Will you share the link for the pump you use, please?

@notestonetworking9020 4 месяца назад

The AirCore you recommended by BigAgnes worked very well for me, especially since it's thicker. I suppose it's heavier though.

@lakorai2 4 месяца назад

Not ATSM rated so the R value is bullshit. Avoid.

@wolfeadventures 4 месяца назад

Burn cash on junk or spend more for a lifetime quality product. Easy choice.

@Im_With_Stupid 4 месяца назад

When it comes to sleeping gear that's as true as it gets. Sleeping gear, especially cold weather sleeping gear is not something you want to cheap out on with half assed budget rebrands and name brand knockoffs designed to appeal to the ubercasual market and LARPers.

@theoriginalrabbithole Месяц назад

AWESOME REVIEW! I might have considered this pad not just based on price but more so, the OneTigris reputation with other quality products they market. Thanks for the solid review.

@shawnr6117 4 месяца назад

That's disappointing, I was looking for something warm, comfortable and budget friendly. The search continues I guess.

@helidude3502 4 месяца назад

I’m a side sleeper. I’ve been using a twin or Queen air mattress from Academy. They are not “light weight” but are budget friendly. I would like a lighter more compact option, but this one won’t be it.

@valdius85 4 месяца назад

That’s sad. I’m a side sleeper so comfort is important.

@azclaimjumper 4 месяца назад

Thank you, Luke, for your agenda FREE channel. I think everyone on this planet, except for some manufacturers, follow & TRUST your recommendations - good & bad. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada

@bachfan7537 4 месяца назад

Blowing any pad up by mouth is going to interject moisture into the pad. That moisture can have an adverse effect on the warmth of the pad.

@HippieHoller 4 месяца назад

This comment should be pinned.

@JefferyHall-ct2tr 4 месяца назад

Hi Luke! Like you, had high hopes that this would be a great product. It's really too bad it didn't work out. For some reason I personally am not a fan of sleeping pads that feature that kind of "cellular" design. Almost bought an inexpensive one a long while back that was that same kind of design. Fortunately, after seeing your review of a Teton Sports pad, I got it instead. It, like the T-rest pad has the "ribbed" kind of construction that runs perpendicular to the length. I am WAY heavier that you and can sleep on my side and not touch the ground. This construction seems to be the best for supporting weight, for some reason. Keep up the good work!

@SojolBandiwadekar Месяц назад

You should review Lighttour R7.5

@UncleWayne5104 4 месяца назад

Well, that's saved me some money. I was considering this after your first look as I am a big fan of OneTigris. I'm just glad I waited to see your review before I committed. What would be the closest competitor to the Xtherm in your opinion?

@stevenormanphotography 4 месяца назад

I have a Vango Aotrom Thermo Platinum sleep mat, it apparently has a R value of 4.2, and I find it very comfy and warm.. Think I paid around £75 when I got it... When I sit on it you can literally feel the heat radiating back... Try and get one of these Luke to review...

@970zfinest 4 месяца назад

I'm getting a buzz watching you blow that up 😵‍💫. I almost ordered this based on the first review. A friend I do a lot of backpacking with has two but never mentioned any issues.

@EdwinCV-dh8qc 4 месяца назад

Luke it's junk,buy it for someone you hate lol 😆

@cmc5394oparva 4 месяца назад

I've never had any kind of good luck with sleeping pads that have a broken-up/honeycomb design like this one. Like Luke, I'm okay on my back, but immediately touch the ground when I go to my side. I bet if One Tigris got rid of that honeycomb design and went to a shallow ribbed design instead, it would hold more air and provide better separation from the ground.

@CharlesWinters-ie3jy 2 месяца назад

I used air pads for many years. They have one problem. The seams blow out after a certain amount of use. Some are better then other. Comfort was Exped makes the best and the warmest. Thermorest make the strongest pad. They last. They are also somewhat noisy. I have used other pads. They either didn’t last or they were not that comfortable. With a high R value Exped you can sleep on snow with a decent sleeping bag. The Thermorest he talks about is warm also but not as warm as the 9 R down mat Exped makes. Buy a cooler pad is better in summer.