Luke, I just happened to look at your subscriber numbers and I have to say that it's really cool how far you've come. I started watching you around 2013/2014, around the time I started getting into backpacking. Now you're over 600k, and you still haven't taken sponsorships. I can't say that's rare because "rare" implies that it happens occassionally...and you're the only product reviewer of any kind that I've Ever seen that doesn't take anything from companies. Congrats on the well-deserved success and thanks for being entirely consistent for over a decade.
Hey Luke! Quick tip for using inflation bags. Instead of rolling all the way, just roll a couple of times to stop air from escaping, then wrap one arm around the bottom neck of the inflation bag like a head lock, and lift it off the ground slightly (so you aren't pushing directly into the ground). Then use the other hand to push the air down into the pad from the top! This will push through a large amount of air with minimal effort. Once you've pushed most of the air, unroll, reinflate and repeat. I've inflated pads very fast with this method, super convenient!
Take a bow, my friend. You definitely deserve first place in the RU-vid camping gear reviewers Hall of Fame. You are the best, PERIOD. Dave & The Girls.
I bought this pad a few months ago and have used it 3 times in low temps ranging from 28* to 41* F in Washington State. I used it with a Zinbivy sheet and quilt, and I slept comfortably and warm all 3 nights inside the OneTigris Stella tent. I was a bit skeptical when it first arrived, because the pad seemed loud compared to others I’ve used, but this hasn’t been an issue for me. I think the Zinbivy sheet helps reduce the noise a lot. When I hold the pad up to light, I can see several shiny marks where it looks like the aluminum layers inside are showing through the nylon fabric. It’s hard to describe, but it looks like pieces of the aluminum have “rubbed off” onto the nylon from inside. These might be points where the aluminum is glued to the nylon to keep the internal layers in place, and I’m hoping it doesn’t indicate any potential problems. So far it’s been a great pad, and for $79 I think it’s a fantastic deal. All pads eventually fail, but I’m hoping to get many trips out of this. Also, I don’t like using the inflation bag at all. I plan on buying a small pump like the Flextail. Can you do a review on a few pumps, Luke?
The Sleeping bag material is 20D on both sides whereas the ground side of my XTherm is 70D. 70D vs 20D ground side is a deal breaker for me if I didn't already have the XTherm. The much lower price will attract a lot of buyers. Only time will tell if the OneTigris Sleeping bag is sufficiently resistant to leaks/punctures.
Please, Please let us know the results of your real life outdoor usage. I'm wondering if it will stay inflated all night. The 20D ground side fabric seems like it will be prone to punctures. The XTherm ground side material is 70D. Warm Regards from far away Reno, Nevada, U.S.A.
I have a Nemo and an Exped in the same denier 20D. I have only used them a few times, but as long as you take a bit of extra care with the pad, (no throwing it on sharp roots, rocks, and making sure you have taken off your pocketknife and put away your spork and not leave it in your pockets), I think it would be reasonably durable IN a tent. Also the face fabric here is nylon, so it is a bit tougher than a 20D polyester.
I have a few One Tigris items, including a couple of tents. I'm a huge fan of their stuff and haven't yet purchased something I don't like. Bought my first One Tigris product, the Rock Fortress Hot Tent because of this channel actually, so thank you for that.
Aftewr you posted the video i put the onetigres sleeping pad on my amazon wish list. This morning when i got paid, i went to buy it......THEY SOLD OUT!!! lol I can only imagine it is because of the honest review you gave! thank you for all that you do and for being unbiased and honest with your reviews!!
I'm also very excited for the full review of this sleeping pad. I have one and have used it in moderately cold weather conditions (30's) and it has been great for me. That pump sack is very heavy (Luke pointed out, its basically a dry bag) but I use an electric air pump/light combo so it's not an issue. There is nothing out there at this price point that compares with this pad and I can't wait for TOGR to give it a no nonsense full review!!
Don’t own the pad myself, but it seems like a nice pad, as long as durability is not an issue. And as you said it seems like the warmth holds up to the R-value.
When I was a teenager in the early 70s I used a 1/2” “insulite” pad (closed foam) and a space blanket (metalized Mylar)spread underneath I slept on ice and snow and felt perfectly warm. We of course didn’t have the choices we have today.
That looks REALLY familiar. I suspect that might be rebadged Light Tour 5.8R that a lot of us have been using - and I reviewed on my channel? Or the Naturehike R5 one they've been touting. Looks like a way better pump bag though. BTW the moisture thing is a myth. Gear Skeptic did a long video about the science about how mould won't grow (no-one has proof of actual mould inside, the ones that have cut open their mats have found the spots are actually mylar flaking off) and how actually warm or moist air would help insulation, not hinder it. Or it condenses back to water, so doesn't bridge the air gap. Even freezing - which it won't for long as your body warms it up - I doubt it'd affect the insulation. In fact ice is also a surprisingly good insulator - it's how igloos work?
Interesting theory about blowing into mats. Makes me feel less guilty for topping off my mats on occasion with a few direct breaths !! The inflation bags were ripped off in design from Exped. Not sure about any comparison to the pad you mentioned, but I would not be surprised if One Tigris ripped off the mat design as well.
@@Xeno-M. Look on my channel, I did a video featuring that mattres, or google 'Naturehike 5R' - which this looks a lot like, or 'Light Tour 5.8R' - or Windhike/Naturehike/Flame's Creed 5.8R' which similarly looks lke this except silver....I am wondering if this is made by the same place that did the Light Tour which was allegedly from the manufacturer of Vaude's mattresses (hence the official cert most Chinese brands do not bother with independent ASTM ratings, maybe it was a mattress Vaude passed on)...
Props for calling out how hard it is to get some of these sleeping pads into the bag. I have an ancient self-inflating Thermarest pad that was incredibly hard to bag for the first 10 years.
I have seen reviews of the Nemo pad you mentioned. It really would not compare to this pad for a couple of reasons. First , an 8.5 vs 5.4 R value is a HUGE difference between them, giving an unfair advantage to the Nemo Extreme. Second, the Nemo is WAYYyy lighter than the One Tigris, albeit Nemo achieves this low weight by making the pad Small. (19ish in wide vs 24 in for the One Tigris.) But on stats alone the Nemo wins hands down. Price difference is a Huge win for One Tigris though. So it really depends on use case, budget, and what you are, or are Not willing to carry.
@@Xeno-M.they do make a 25 inch wide version for all their pads which is definitely the way to go. But yeah i recently got the new nemo and it wouldn’t be a fair comparison at all lol its one of the best sleeping pads on the market as fair as warmth to weight along with the xtherm but your gonna pay for it! Luckily the replaced my old pad with this new one for free! Shoutout to nemo lifetime warranty.
I got mine today! I’m a Nemo guy but for the price and needing two For the kids, I figured it was worth a try. So far I like it a lot! Will do a New England backyard test this weekend
You should take a look at the onetigris gastropod tent! It’s one of their new products and it looks super interesting. Would love to see a video on it!
Luke, it was a few years ago that you did the review on One Tigris camping chairs. I bought 3 of them they are awesome! One Tigris is a legit brand and I wouldn’t have any problem buying any thing from them! Keep up the great work! Strength and Honor!
Luke, I believe the way to use the inflation bad is to roll the opening a few times and then buckle that end together with the supplied buckles. This is just like how a dry bag is closed. Then the bag can be placed on the ground and you can kneel or sit on it to force air from the bag and into the pad. This method is less efficient than just rolling it up all the way because there will still be more air left in the bag after pressing the air out of the bag, but it simply uses your body weight to do all of the work.
After watching GearSkeptics video on moister entering the pad. Im no longer convinced we need these massive pump sacks. That being said, Ive switched to the Flextail pump and its never been easier.
Luke, when anyone asks my opinion on gear I tell them if I've used it. If I havent, and there are many, I always refer one of your videos and let them know that you're what I think of as the straightest shooter out there. Thank you.
When blowing up a sleeping pad I prefer to use the Coleman 12v Quick pump. 30sec and done, obviously only good if you’ve got your vehicle with you, but a great little unit that saves a lot of huffing and puffing. I use the “Exped MegaMat 10 LXW” for camping in my swag and the Coleman pump is awesome! 🎉
video is only an hour old.... I bought this on Amazon while watching the video! Thanks for this one! I have been wanting the x-therm for a long time. However, I just could not pull the trigger due to cost. I do hope this holds up.
I bought a OneTigris tent based on your recommendation and I enjoy it. But I had a high end air mattress fail on me on a long trip so no matter the weight and bulk I'll always lug a dense foam mattress with me. The exception would be an Exped which has foam in it and having owned one I trust it. It's still a lot more bulky and heavier than an air mattress.
I'm Really Excited about this Pad!!! Smaller storage size, thickness, quietness and warmth. I more likely will purchase this Pad Thank you One Tigris.!! I look forward to further review I currently have a klynex. Which is great. I need more thickness and warmth.
OMG, I can not wait for the full review. When the newest ThermaRest Xterm goes on sale, price is just about 3x over onetigris. At least for me, sleeping pads aren't going to be replaced every so often so... buying something that provide certain level of always performing warmth could be more important than saving some money 1 time vs pad that hopefully you'll be using over and over years to come.
You should test the Naturehike R5.8 winter pad. Very warm down to 0°F as a standalone or add a closed-cell foam pad below 0°F for a total of R7.8. But you will only need that setup in Alaska, Antarctica or climbing above 6,000m. For only $85, it's the "Xtherm killer".
I use an Exped Schnozzel pump bag in my kit. It's a pack liner / dry bag that doubles as a pump sack. It looks very similar to what is included with the OneTigris set up. I wonder if that's the intention? I store my quilt, pad, clothing, etc in the bag and roll it down tight. I use this as my pack liner instead of something like a trash compactor or nylofume bag. That would save a tiny bit of weight by eliminating the storage sack and the elastic straps and it would be dual purpose.
One Tigris is only Chinese company I trust. Solid high quality products (mostly) and good price. Perfect timing with this pad. I just need new one for my next season ❤
Back in the 70"s we used 1/4 inch thick closed cell foam pads. I can't say that I ever suffered even at minus 20 F. Before the closed foam pad we had inflatables that were close to useless. Not bragging, just saying. We did not know any better. Closed cell foam was a big leap forward. Fast forward 50 years and we are back to inflatables that say they insolate.
Actually if it is that cold out, many backpackers Still use closed cell foam pads to augment the R-value of the inflatables (the inflatable pad’s cover fabric can get cold in extreme temps due to a principle called “cold soaking”.) Also just in case you Do get a leak overnight you don’t end up sleeping on the ground if you carry that backup foam pad, so the tech has changed, and yet still has not.
Ahh, the good old days. X-country skiing one time. (in the late 70's). Didn't make the alpine cabin. Never falling asleep, getting cold enough, to throw up. My buddies getting me out. Rather than going on. We had crap for gear. But that was normal.
P.S. Don’t get me wrong though, the inflatables Are warm now due to a variety of insulation materials put into them, such as down feathers, polyester batting, or mylar that is in this pad.
A great Idea on paper, but I got tired just watching you!!! I have a small battery charged inflate unit that would have that done PDQ! Great video as always!
Forearm burn: I remember that you work out to keep in shape. Even at my best, I would prefer to use a battery-powered blower that also includes a light. It is never ideal to use the breath to inflate anything. Bacteria as well as moisture is introduced to the pad.
Thanks for your great videos again, Luke. I wonder if you ever tried the Exped Dura 8R sleeping mat (or the old versions called Downmats). These mats are filled with down and they are really great. I bought my first one more than 10 years ago (ultra light version, still ok) and bought the new Dura 8R last year. I love them both. Regarding the inflation bag, it looks like OneTigris is kind of copying the Exped inflation bag, which looks quite similar, but is lighter and more flexible, which makes it easier to fill it with air and press it into the sleeping mat. As far as I can see (and hear) the Exped Dura 8R also doesn't make that much noise. Maybe you'd like to test it one day. Highly recommended.
IMO, it is never a good idea to use your breath to inflate camp items. The moisture intruduced into the item gets trapped and becomes a mold and bacteria garden. Not to mention the freezing effect you mentioned. I love the large inflation bag this pad comes with. You can use your weight to force the air into the mattress, making it less of a chore to inflate. The inflation bag can be used to inflate other inflatables as well and could be used for temporary storage and/ or a pillow. Looks to be a good piece of kit. Thanks for sharing.
I’ve always just put a fleece or jacket in my bag and laid on a regular foam pad. And had some pretty uncomfortable nights.. I need to get a cheap insulated pd and do some tests. I definitely am affected most by cold drafts up my back.. so these seem worthwhile. Same reason I spend a lot on the slim baselayers.. I need something skin tight or I’ll be cold no matter what’s over it.
I hope this sleeping pad turns out to be good. I have the X-therm, but I would like to get a wider pad for hot tent camping. Thanks for the heads up👍🏻👍🏻
If you can get it on sale, the REI Helix is also a really good budget winter pad (4.9 R-value). I actually got mine at 75% off a couple years ago. It often goes on sale for 50% off.
Seems like with the long spout on the inflation bag, you could just lay it down and push your knees on the bag to inflate rather than roll it up. That would be less of a workout.
looking forward to the FULL review unfortunately your video probably caused this item to SELL-OUT last pad I had was an old Thermarest with the self-inflating foam way back in the Old Days... but I'm not a fan of inflatable stuff, everything I've had leaked
Concerning weight limit , i feel like that is relative to how much air you inflate into it. For example if you dont put any air into it , I'm guessing it could hold infinite weight. Now , on the flipside , fully inflated I'm sure there's a limit. I'm guessing most people don't use a pad that way. Me personally, I inflate the thing to max , then lie down and use the valve to adjust the air out until I'm comfortable. But I'm thick , so maybe normal sized people sleep with it fully infiated .
I have an xtherm and it is my favorite sleeping pad so far, when it is cold it does a great job of insulating me from the ground. If it ever gives up the ghost I will take a look at this OneTigris, I think the xtherm price is a bit high, although it is a great pad.
I just got the Gear Doctors Apollo Air Ultralight. Some great reviews of it saying it is warm as the high R value claimed, and it is only 17 oz. Might need to review it yourself? Thanks for sharing these with we the multitudes...
Hey Luke have you used this mat yet? Can you give an interim update while we wait for your full review? Im in need of a new mat soon and this one might be the one but its hard to find good reviews on it. Thank you for all the work that you do!
Two points I'm sure I have seen you blowing air into a mat from your mouth in your videos. But could be wrong. I would say the clips on the inflation bag are so you can twist and fasten them together, as you say like a dry bag, and then just sit on it to blow the air in, rather than pressing the bag with your hands. Good review matey
First, you are not delusional. Yes, Luke has Wayyy too often mouth blown up his X Therm dozens of times !! One other reviewer stated that you can also use the clips on the inflation bag as a dry bag for a pillow , sleeping clothes, or sleeping bag or liner.
