If the racing format and barrier to entry changes, this would be the most popular oval asphalt car without a doubt. #iracing #racing #simracing #nascar #dalejr
This might be a big ask but I think the gen 4 car would excel if they made it a B-A license class series and had it follow a race schedule from the 90s-00s as an era series, plenty of people love the 87s and the nostalgia associated with those cars. Many of us on the oval side of iracing grew up watching the gen 4 car and have a lot of love for it. I personally don’t run the gen 4 outside of the supers and mile and a half races because the barrier for entry is to low at C class. I’m not trying to say I’m the second coming of Dale Sr. But I don’t like running with guys that are still struggling with throttle control…
Saying that this car is a flop when there's 6000 people who have raced it in one season is crazy. Changing the format of the races or entry level would be dumb. Even with changes it's still not going to be the most popular. Here's some reasons why it's not the most popular asphalt car. 1. It has to compete with C Fixed, the most popular series on oval, in the same license class. Moving it to B class wouldn't really change anything and it'll just lessen the amount of possible drivers. 2. The car isn't run IRL anymore. People would rather run the series with current day cars than a throwback series. Historical series normally don't get as much people as modern series. 3. The car is hard to drive. Most people would choose the easier car to drive at one given track. 4. The car bodies still don't handle contact very well since the bumpers don't line up. This is a turnoff at plate tracks and makes 1 mile and shorter tracks a nightmare to try and drive.
Great points but I believe if handled correctly the Gen4 car could have 20k participants per season. I believe the car is so good (and will be even better with future scans) that it should be the most popular car in oval. Thank you for watching!!
Love practicing gen 4, I struggle committing to putting the time/effort into actually figuring a track out and then racing in a given week. But it’s one of my favorite cars to just run laps with or run a quick ai race if I’m short on time
make it a open series and let setup shops flood the market. Cautions and longer races are not a factor if you look at the cup and B series. It comes down to the lower class level having too many options, or the saturation of popularity in the top 3 tiers of championship racing.
You might be onto something, but even B fixed which is closes in popularity is still at 10k participants. ARCA is 30% more popular and the car isn't as fun or exciting at the Gen4. Maybe if Gen4 was Class A and highly sought after then it would become more popular. I think you are right about there being too many options in the lower license classes.
Personally I split my time on iRacing between Gen 4 Cup and Nascar legends. Those cars and races have the best driving dynamic and fun factor out of anything iRacing has to offer. Each are an absolute handful but there’s no comparing the two as they’re genuinely totally different animals! That being said the most common trend I see is simply people that don’t practice what so ever before jumping into a race and for the life of me I don’t understand why especially with how good ai setups are! I genuinely believe if folks would get it through their head to practice for at least an hour or if iRacing would buck up and mandate you have to practice or time trail before a race both these series would skyrocket again as they would be less likely to be a wreck fest as well as more competitive. Not saying it isn’t a problem across all of iRacing but these two serious are the most notorious.
Agreed, Gen4 is a crap shoot even in top split. Sometimes there are long green flag runs and other times it turns into iPacing. That's probably why. Both are tough cars to just jump into and expect to be competitive without practicing the track.
Most guys struggle with a heavy right foot in the Arca cars. Gen4 are a blast but they actually require finess with the throttle and some race craft and strategy helps I think this scares most off. Top split gen4 races are where some of the true fast oval buys live.
It’s definitely a tougher car to tame. I think it’s a lot people’s favorite car (like me) but just don’t have the time. The strategy it’s current race format offers is fun but it’s too long for a lot of people to waiting around for that race to start. For instance, it’s 10:23am right now and I want to run Gen 4. I won’t be able to make the 10:30am race so now I’ve got to wait 2 hours just to start the race plus the race is then an hour long. It’s simply too much time for most people. If Gen4 was class D it would be so popular it would render ARCA obsolete IMO