The Best CARBON Bikes Made in CHINA? - WINSPACE Factory Tour

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I travelled to Xiamen China to discover how carbon bikes are made. I've been invited by Winspace, one of the leading carbon manufacturers to visit their head office and manufacturing facilities. In this (2 part!) documentary I will share what I've seen and learned on this amazing trip!
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0:00 Intro
1:10 What are we going to discover
3:19 The Winspace Head Office
6:00 Showroom tour
9:36 The Distribution
11:17 Carbon Handlebar Production
15:34 the QUALITY Control with X-RAY
19:40 the truth about carbon factories
20:20 Making the Carbon bike frame
24:11 Is there A difference between brands?
25:28 The Latex & EPS Mold of the AGILE frame
27:03 DO YOU EVEN LIFT BRO?! (the steel molds)
28:07 The 3 pieces that are glued together
29:35 The latest technology development
30:04 The Conclusion, are all carbon bikes the same?

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@jasperverkuijl 8 дней назад

This Documentary is supported by: ► WINSPACE Carbon Frames/handlebars, 10% off with code CYCLINGFANATICS 👉bit.ly/WINSPACEBIKES ► LÚN PERFORMANCE Carbon Wheels, 10% off with code CYCLINGFANATICS 👉 bit.ly/LúnMega

@dcv9460 4 дня назад

Transparency makes you trust the brand more 💯 Kudos to Winspace for showing this video 👍

@jasperverkuijl 4 дня назад

Thanks 👍🏻

@VishnuRajendranAmboo 2 дня назад

The passion from the founder says it all

@habana6595 4 дня назад

I'm riding my T1500 frame set and Hypers wheels since 3 years now and was probably the first in France to own them. Winspace is now my number one choice for frames and wheels ! I'm proud to ride Winspace !

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Nice!

@2UpDuc 4 дня назад

Jasper. This is your calling. Amazing job on the mini documentary showing this process. Thanks to Winspace for letting you in and allowing you to film and ask questions.

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Thanks 🙏

@_slowpoke 3 дня назад

Amazing how a lot of people think they’re carbon bikes are made in the west

@occyman 3 дня назад

Yep pure ignorance

@snoopyboobs 2 дня назад

literally no one thinks this.

@cyclistshub 3 дня назад

Jasper, thanks for putting your time, energy, and money into this factory tour. Don't let the haters ruin the taste of a job well done. 🎩👌 It's clear that without 3rd party support (Winspace), this video could not have been made because it would have cost thousands of dollars. And that's too much for an individual creator. - Petr

@jasperverkuijl 2 дня назад

I appreciate that! It may not even be about the money, it’s simply impossible to go inside these factories without an invite or brand that takes you in. So yeah, 100% I’m happy for the partnership and opportunity that Winspace provides. 👍🏻

@cyclistshub 2 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijl amen. 😅

@ATDreamLand 4 дня назад

When comes to manufacturing, China is at another level. Thank you for doing this documentary. BTW, u forgot to mention your 3rd job - pilot.

@jasperverkuijl 4 дня назад

I figure I keep it cycling related 😜

@paperwind392 4 дня назад

Hey Jasper, This is a spectacular showcasing of Winspace product. I’m amazed of the quality control that the company employs for their components. You’re a great presenter!! Continue doing this. You have a knack of sharing stuff about cycling!

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Thank you 🙏

@MrYAMAHA32177 3 дня назад

For decades, the Chinese have been taught by name brand manufacturers on how to build these products along with all the tools needed. So it was only a matter of time for them to get in on the action. Back in the 1990s we were rebuilding vehicle trim and bumpers that required rechroming, it was a long and complex process that includes cleaning and dipping a specific part into a vat of chromium-based solution. As the new u.s. regulations started to take effect and drive up cost, it was no longer profitable for us. You could actually ship the parts to China to be rechromed and back cheaper than we could do the process here in the u.s. Thanks for the video Jasper!

@jasperverkuijl 2 дня назад

Yep, al long as someone checks the quality and pays enough, they will make high quality stuff 👌

@henrychungfitness 3 дня назад

Loved the intro! Thanks for sharing 👍

@stravasean8187 4 дня назад

Terrific video Jasper!

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Thank you 🙏

@nochancecw 10 часов назад

Its very cool seeing the craftspersonship while making the frame.

@jonphotos8631 4 дня назад

Great job man!!!!!!

@lesterwagner4016 3 дня назад

Jasper!! So very well done! Thank you, Love this!

@nolypatrickmonreal8032 3 дня назад

Thanks for sharing this content Jasper. Keep making more, We’ll gladly watch.

@dtroxx007 2 дня назад

Top gedaan Jasper!

@MrCyclist 4 дня назад

Thanks Jasper for the reporting. Never hurts to now more about quality and safety.

@SuperDodoe 4 дня назад

Wow., hope they gave you a few bikes as this video will help many people make the decision to go with Winspace over other Chinese brands

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

I got to keep the black and white bike 🙌🏻

@olo398 4 дня назад

Amazing to see Winspace dealer network now. I remember watching Joes (China Cycling) vid when he worked for Winspace years ago, good on them.

@dopeone700 4 дня назад

Great job! Always like to see how the industry really works.

@HecklingGopher День назад

I bought a Winspace SLC 2.0 and am super happy with it. I find it really reassuring that I made a fantastic purchase.

@jasperverkuijl 21 час назад

Great to hear!

@bendeblok4948 День назад

Geeewellldig Jasper 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼ik heb me vaak afgevraagd hoe deze frames gemaakt werden

@swites 4 дня назад

Cool vid. Thx for all the work putting it together :)

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@U.s.e.r.3493 4 дня назад

I know they choose what to show and tell, but still great to see

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

We where not allowed to go to the frame factory all week because they were producing other brand frames so sure, they won’t let us in. there wasn’t much I couldn’t show about Winspace or Lún. Just the other brands where kept out of the picture.

@mitchellsteindler 4 дня назад

I bought my first chinese branded carbon parts because of videos like this. Farsports handlebars and crw wheels. If i had seen this video first and not another, i may have gone winspace. Its clear there is a lot of high quality coming from china.

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Farsports is a solid brand too!🤙🏻🤙🏻

@pierrex3226 День назад

Super interesting

@colinvincent6599 4 дня назад

Very interesting

@marcelliu3422 2 дня назад

Hi Jasper, leuke video erg interessant he om de productie eens van dichtbij te zien... Ik ben in '98 in Taiwan Taipei/Taichung geweest. Vond het heel goed dat eens te hebben gezien.

@syazwanabdull4835 21 час назад

Congratulation Jasper new ambasador Winspace

@jasperverkuijl 21 час назад

Ive been with Winspace for years. Nothing new 🤙🏻🤙🏻

@bopndop2347 3 дня назад

Thanks Jasper; very interesting and I will consider Winspace for my next bike.

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Awesome 👏

@Niggoification 3 дня назад

Great work Jasper!!! Also great from Winspace, definitely the leading Chinese bike brand in the western market right now!

@jasperverkuijl 2 дня назад

Thanks mate

@blue-wanderer4392 2 дня назад

This video makes me buy alloy frames. ^^

@michaelknibb4460 3 дня назад

Very informative 👏 and the still make a rim break frame

@nickdalamagas3540 3 дня назад

Great vid Jas. You’re a natural👌Very educational & informative production buddy. I’ve been a Winspace fan for many years. Solid & trustworthy company. Hope they continue their great work 👍💪👍

@jasperverkuijl 2 дня назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@cazat 2 дня назад

“can we show some machine not working?" "Errh...no..." 😂why am I getting a Borat vibe...

@SpockCycles 4 дня назад

WINSPACE FANCY SENDING US A BIKE 🖖👍

@pablofcasal5416 4 дня назад

you should have asked them if there was going to be a "SLC3.0" with T47BB!!! Indeed, thanks for the video.

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

The slc3 is coming. Probably with t47 like the new 1550gen2 but I’m not sure. Some people are negative about t47 so I don’t know if it’s a good thing 🤷🏼‍♂️

@dm5rkt 11 часов назад

Thanks for a very interesting video. Couldn't help noticing this: 13:26: lady in Winspace's own factory is wearing double gloves while handling epoxy prepreg. 31:19 lady in 3rd party frame factory is not using any gloves at all while handling prepreg. Wonder if this is some new type of prepreg ;-)

@martijnmast6376 3 дня назад

Especially liked the part where she hammers the bottom bracket into place.

@jasperverkuijl 2 дня назад

😂 needs a tight fit!! 🫡🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

@abalabal8732 2 дня назад

Need some hawk tuah then

@endtimeslips4660 3 дня назад

got agile in a hand. it great bike.

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Awesome! Build it up yet??

@endtimeslips4660 3 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijl i had it about 3 month ago if im not wrong. it very good bike. for senior rider agile is the best middle ground. because our back not as strong as before agile very forgiving the curve on top tube work very well it like tremor absorber. i love climbing ride agile geometry make shoulder more relax. the bottom bracket section is the best. i think because it very bulky on the bottom bracket. it give very good stability and when we rocking the bike it feel very responsive i feel very powerful when do dance.

@valmorell 3 дня назад

This is all SO labour intensive that I would advise anyone considering a Winspace or similar frame to buy it now, as prices MUST rise....

@Chris-iv2ud 2 дня назад

People often mixed China's knockoff frame as same as legit brand from China like Winspace, they are totally different thing. Glad to see more brands starting to show how they made their bikes. Giant, Time, Factor and now Winspace, when come to making carbon bikes and components, far east is the master. Don't really see much Western or Europe "Prestige" brand doing this as they have their production line outsourced to far east as well, Pinarello literally release a "How we painted our frame in Italy that came from far east" LMAO.

@pierrex3226 День назад

Time frames are made in Slovakia, but they're the exception to the rule. 3T make SOME of their frames in Italy. Colnago as well (the tour riders on colnago are on Chinese made colnago)

@Chris-iv2ud День назад

@@pierrex3226 I know, Time is still making their own frame, look as well. 3T Im not familiar with. C68 seem made in Italy according to Colnago. Bianchi recently shifts some of the production back to Italy as well.

@thedronescene7474 4 дня назад

The fatigue test is also not for every handlebar. Is only for random selected handlebars.

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Thats what the CEO said🤷🏼‍♂️ The drop test is only for some because the bars get destroyed. The fatigue test is for all of them

@thedronescene7474 3 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijl I honestly believe he got kind of confuse and said yes not realizing what the question actually was.

@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 3 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijlthat guy also said a handlebar is made of only two layers of carbon fiber. It seemed like he didn't know all the manufacturing details. The R&D guy was more knowledgeable about the manufacturing.

@qwertyazerty2137 День назад

15:39 what kind of QC is this if even on this unfocused shot you can see that the thickness of the wall is uneven? It's not even round. Top notch PR for selecting a faulty item for promotional video. 👌

@rmb_dev 12 часов назад

They need an endurance frame! With threaded BB, external cables and 40 mm tyre clearance guess what - they will dominate the mass market. With race frames, it's not the case. Personally, I will buy two, for myself and my dad. Riding their pair of wheels for 3 seasons now, very satisfied.

@jasperverkuijl 12 часов назад

The c5 is their endurance bike. Just launched recently

@IvanMalechko 4 дня назад

It was so sponsored, but also very interesting :). I mean sponsored in a good way. If money were no issue, or if I could get it for free, I'd choose Winspace over Pinarello any day. At least now we know where and how Winspace frames are made, which is more than you can say for carbon Pinarello or most other mainstream brands. China is the new Japan with amazing work ethics and bright minds behind their products. They should get rid of their western middlemen and do it their own way. Sadly for us customers, they have started to realize this, and prices are going up, so we don't have many chances left to get a discount as early adopters.

@pigupigu 4 дня назад

Your pinarello is made in an lower tier facility than what's documented here. Fly to xiamen and have a tour.

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

With pro cyclists nobody questions what they say but with videos on RU-vid…. The minute something is sponsored people think you are selling lies. (Not saying you are saying that though) I think the word “sponsored” has such a negative load for content creators….. the trip was paid for by Winspace sure, but everything else I had to do myself. You’d be surprised how little they actually came up with or input they had in this video…. I planned and wrote all the scripts and shots.. we had to look for people on location to be able to tell us something about the factories etc… About the middle man, that’s what Winspace does, they don’t have the western company and do it themselves direct to consumer. There is not really an extra link in the chain you can take out. The factories don’t sell direct to consumers or distributors so it can’t go more direct than this

@IvanMalechko 3 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijl Thank you for your reply and for the great job putting both videos together in a watchable and engaging format. I can see it wasn't easy to get some of those guys excited about promoting their own product, lol. Production quality is top-notch as well. I really enjoyed both parts. 👍 For pro-peloton riders, I always keep in mind that Pogi is winning not because he rides a Colnago or uses "ketone-iq" or other branded products. There's often a difference between being sponsored and openly shilling someone's product for a paycheck without providing honest and valuable input, which I see in many undisclosed cycling channels, but not yours (I probably shouldn't have even mentioned this in the first place :)). And yes, that's what I meant: a direct-to-consumer model under their own brand name, at a reasonable price, as we see with Winspace, Yoleo, and some other Chinese wheel and frame manufacturers. They definitely need to improve their customer interactions and basic brand recognition and marketing. But I would rather support a manufacturer and designer directly than some US guy with an MBA degree who only came up with a fancy slogan and brand, along with that fake "designed in Oregon/California" sign (which is also not the easiest job sometimes, but not as honest, in my opinion).

@jasperverkuijl 2 дня назад

🙏

@conceptcs 3 дня назад

I don't think there is anything secretive about making any of these carbon frame. It's really down to craftmanship and attention to detail. It's not like these are semiconductors where there are trade secrets to making the most cutting edge and advanced chips.

@jasperverkuijl 2 дня назад

True. It’s a puzzle of carbon pieces that needs to be layed out. However the design and layup is very precise and what makes a good or bad bike with the same carbon…

@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 3 дня назад

Cool. Thanks for all the work this took I wonder if the production factory company name was Adapt... Or Speeder .. or something else? (I know you cant/won't tell us)

@jasperverkuijl 2 дня назад

Not it was a different one 😜

@seanwise7464 4 дня назад

🎵 I’m number 1. I did it before. I’ll do it again…. I’m number 1! 🎵

@chokhou 4 дня назад

👏👌🙌

@Pixel10Bro 3 дня назад

20:11 - USSR flag :o

@occyman 3 дня назад

Great report mate… I really love the triggered people making comments about where their frames are made refusing to accept that 99% of frames (and other carbon cycling products) are ALL made in China.

@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 3 дня назад

Huh? Everybody knows they are made in China ( except for just a few Time/Look fanatics)

@jasperverkuijl 2 дня назад

Yeah I know man. If you want to have fun, go to my Instagram and read the comments on the trailer 🤷🏼‍♂️🤯

@schbchia 4 дня назад

Can you please lower down the volume of the BGM, thanks~!

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Not anymore 🤓

@schbchia 3 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijl 🙏🏻 🙏🏻 🙏🏻

@ekoisme 4 дня назад

So basically, we are riding the stickers 😅

@pigupigu 4 дня назад

This isn't news.

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

What do you mean? Riding the stickers?

@Sam321go 3 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijl he means that they just stick big layers (sticker) together

@konigsegg_1to1 3 дня назад

@@Sam321goor that the brand (Winspace, scott, whatever) doesn’t make the bike, and so one winspace bike is not made the same as another (different factories), and the only thing that they “own” is the sticker on the side of the bike. No hate to winspace tho as I own a t1550

@jasperverkuijl 2 дня назад

Well I believe that the brand designs the bike and sets specs for the frame. The factory has the knowledge to do the correct layup to meet these specs. So different specs from different brands will make different bikes. So no, they are not all the same with a different sticker. Even though they come from the same factory. (Check my other part of the documentary for more about this!)

@DanTuber 4 дня назад

Do you know the names of the other brands from the factories?

@pigupigu 4 дня назад

6 of them are in the mens world tour

@youling1997 4 дня назад

There are a bunch of factories like this one. If your western brand frame says made in china, you can confidently assume that they are made here.

@ronaldo7martinez 3 дня назад

I think manufacturer will never disclose their names (some of them), as per their client 's agreement. Its bad in business if we learned the "brands" manufacturing details.

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Yes I’ve seen a lot of name tags, wheels and frames with logos etc etc from other brands. But I won’t tell which ones it are because I’m not going to damage the trust I’m given by the people that took me into their businesses. When we came in the frame factory (which is owned by a big brand) the logos of the factory name were hided before we started filming, same was for the wheel factory, plenty of logos all over the place but we where asked not to show it. So I won’t. That’s how it works. I’m glad I was allowed in and could show this

@DanTuber 3 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijl Do you know if the testing and QC varied for each brand? or was it the same?

@Fittevaders 3 дня назад

Like often said; all the big brand's carbon frames comes from the same Chinese factories!

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Thats certainly not true! There will be a few brands from the same factory but there are many many factories. So for sure not all come from one location

@Fittevaders 3 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijlah clear. Very jnteresting video 👍

@Simon-Simon-Simon 2 дня назад

wish paint jobs HATE TO SAY - MORE SIMPLE pinarello silver and black inner faces where dirt is few 3d gloss silver/pink or red/blue

@onkelphil7419 4 дня назад

hm when I test those things 1000 times... Will it not reduce its sturdiness after those heavy tests?

@mitchellsteindler 4 дня назад

Carbon fiber composite doesnt really fatigue (unlike aluminum). If their test caused fatigue, which would be measured as a change in deflection throughout the test or a change in load (depending on how the test is designed) that would indicate a problem with the part, so it would be scrapped.

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

I think because it’s only at relatively low force it won’t.

@LouisArquivio 2 дня назад

There is a post inspection as well

@ptewilks2634 День назад

why the underling music oh the content is not enough

@kwtay1746 2 дня назад

Why don't you also mention western brand name carbon bikes that fell apart!

@farandymizan6837 День назад

Byebye Overprice Carbon👍

@jasperverkuijl 21 час назад

🤙🏻

@ariffau 2 дня назад

Mate, honestly videos like this aren’t gonna break the internet like GCN’s visit to Look’s factory anymore. Do something different like “Are Taiwanese Bikes Better than Chinese Made or is it Just Political?”

@JustSueMe День назад

Most "Made in Taiwan" bikes are actually made in China. They just paint them in Taiwan, so they can put the "Made in Taiwan" badge on them.

@ariffau День назад

@@JustSueMe yup. A certain percentage of work done allows it to be named Made In XXX-country. It doesn’t reflect 100% of manufacturing said bike. Lol

@markvanbeers7123 4 дня назад

Jij durft, middenop een 3 baans weg.

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Als je hard genoeg fietst gaat het goed 😜

@JacMaciag 2 дня назад

Lost me at hammer and sickle.

@ankittuli1746 4 дня назад

Can i get a job? I'm a mechanical engineer

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Send them your resume 🫡🤙🏻

@ankittuli1746 3 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijl where?

@ankittuli1746 3 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijl I've messaged you on Instagram and Facebook

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

@@ankittuli1746 i dont know. try contacting winspace through their contact page

@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 3 дня назад

@@ankittuli1746try harder dude

@LouisArquivio 2 дня назад

Big brands will never show that side because people will realize they are overcharging by a laaaaarge margin

@Dustydayzz 3 дня назад

as much as chris seems cool...every piece is not even remotely believable,,,

@jasperverkuijl 2 дня назад

What part is not believable?

@Dustydayzz 2 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijl the stress test for every handlebar. they make so many of them when will they ever finish packing them if they gotta wait 10000 cycles for each

@pinkbearoscar День назад

I worked in the manufacturing industry. This test is carried out in the R&D stage. If every single piece is tested, he probably meant every prototype. If this is a part of production QC, not every single one will be tested.

@Dustydayzz День назад

@@pinkbearoscar Oh ok got it...👍

@user-d32658 4 дня назад

I love Babi Pangang, but am not a big fan of Chinese bikes and cars. Sorry.

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Hahahah. You will never find Babi pangang in China 😂😂 so I guess you’ve never seen the real Chinese quality (the good stuff I mean… you probably only know the bad stuff )

@user-d32658 3 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijl That’s why I like it, they took the Chinese food and made a Dutch/ western version, which is pretty nice. Same story with the road bikes. And for quality food (and products), you should go to Japan and South Korea.

@trippywong8953 2 дня назад

Never trust stuff from cccp land😅

@VelopeakBoilers 3 дня назад

Thank you for soft propaganda video of China. And please don't tell us it isn't :)

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

I don’t know what to say to you because you probably have your answer ready. I went there to showcase the production of Winspace and that’s what I made this video about. I learned a lot and I’m sharing it with the world. Nothing I say is predominated by anyone but me. So🤷🏼‍♂️ it not propaganda. It’s just different than you expected maybe.

@VelopeakBoilers 3 дня назад

@@jasperverkuijl yes, all of us have our answers ready :]

@benhardwick1970 9 часов назад

@@VelopeakBoilersnot all of us. Some of us are open and not closed minded

@VelopeakBoilers 8 часов назад

@@benhardwick1970 China is threat to EU, same as Russia is threat. We would better be “closed minded” than sorry later. In Lithuania we had experience with soviet russia and occupation, so we know a little about dictatorship countries. Do you? There is nothing to simpathyse with dictators and their business.

@benhardwick1970 8 часов назад

@@VelopeakBoilers 😂 dictators are everywhere! Just some have more power than others. Yes you are closed minded. You think democratic countries are really much better?? Some people stab you in you’re back whist others stab you in the front, which is better?? Tell me about the opium wars?? Tell me about colonisation? Yes China and Russia so bad things but so do all counties with power. Ironically you talk about propaganda

@songjoseph3314 4 дня назад

nice, paid video. another chinese sweatshop

@jasperverkuijl 3 дня назад

Sure it is paid by Winspace dude! Pretty logical don’t you think? You think I would spend all that money on a trip to China with money out of my own pocket? Where are you going with this? Always people complaining about if it’s paid or not. You expect me to make free content for my audience and pay for it myself? How would that work?