The Best Commuter Scooter You Shouldn't Buy...YET 

Great honest review. Honest reviews are what’s missing from the PEV community. Great job.

Southern California rider here, from Los Angeles. I have racked up 745 miles on my Apollo City Pro. I am 6 foot, about 220 pounds and I have really been impressed commuting with this scooter! It is a beast; the power and performance are top notch. The range/battery life is fairly decent, I ride WOT a lot and have my acceleration maxed in the app and can achieve 20+ mile range. The Regen brake is fantastic, and I use it 95% of the time, even fresh off a full charge with no problems whatsoever. The only time I use the drum brakes is for emergency braking.

I’m not particularly into scooters, although I consider buying one from time to time, but I want to appreciate how professional this video is looking for the channel with under 300 subscribers

Now THIS is what a review should be like!! Freaking awesome Nic!! Great work on compiling all that info together. I'm still on the fence between the this City pro and Emove Cruiser but now have a much better viewpoint on Apollo. Many many thanks :)

I almost bought this over the Ghost because of the puncture resitant tires. I was afraid of low range, but you appear to get good range. However, I am on pause with this. My E-TWOW is still kicking with almost zero maintenance after 6 years and I think I will run it in the ground before going with this. The range and speed of the Apollo options are what I prefer, but the maintenance and weight and carry ability seems to be a caveat. Thank you for the great honesty in this video. I was almost going to pull the trigger because of yet another 'sale' with the countdown clock.

My experience with Apollo was great, I have the explorer 21. I had problems water getting in the scooter, I got it fix at Apollo service center in NY, they cover that part I only had to pay the labor part, which it was 25 dollar, they adjusted my break,and seal on the scooter even the ppl at Apollo service center was friendly and nice.

We need more Nic Laporte style reviews online. Way too many reviewers only review a demo sent by the manufacturer for a short time. Not many want to stick their necks out to say the negatives.

I'm just glad I live in Queens, NYC. I live not to far from their warehouse in Brooklyn, so service isn't too bad for me.

This was a wonderful review. everything i could find prior was nothing more than initial impressions, when what i wanted was a more long term review. I really appreciate how thorough your critique is.

After watching your review and a ton others I'm happy Apollo listened to the feedback and improved pretty much all of the cons on your list in the new 2023 City Pro that is now on preorder sale. They beefed up the frame including the folding mechanism, stem and deck and added a 10,000 km warranty which I think is unprecedented in the industry. They built new V8 throttles and tested them to 300,000 cycles instead of 100,000 which is the industry standard. Bigger 20 AH battery on both the single and dual motor is a nice touch. Doubled the brightness of the head light and display screen which was needed imo. Added the stem latch so it stays latched when folded, brilliant! Improved and more comfortable grips, guess we'll see about that. Added signal lights to the handle bar grip ends....incredibly smart! Improved stem mechanism from their new Apollo Pro which eliminates wobble and is much more robust....nice! All in all, took care of all my concerns so I just pre-ordered a 2023 City Pro. I actually ordered during the Fathers Day Sale for 2k and did get $200 in accessory credits but it's now on sale for $1650 CDN plus a tool kit and phone holder which is a killer price. Thanks again for the thorough review

That may be the best scooter review I’ve seen yet, nice work!

Thanks Nic, by far the most informative (the good and the bad) video on this particular scooter to date. Cant wait to ride mine in Rainncouver as well ;).

Excellent, candid review! Most helpful to someone like me just getting interested in e-scooters and considering my first purchase. This scooter checks most of the boxes for me except it doesn't have an easily removable battery in the deck like the AnyHill UM-2. I would have to lug this scooter up and down quite a few steps every time it needed charging and my body nor my landlord wouldn't particularly like that.

Very useful review. I have the Apollo Air and was thinking of getting this one but all the issues you have named happened to me as well and was not without problems. While Apollo eventually fixed all the issues, but there are a lot of these issues with quality control with both the physical scooter and the app that I would have to get used to.

The best review of an e-scooter I've seen so far. Please continue in this way - just great.

Wow... This is all very good info to know ahead of time. Can never have enough reviews for things like electric scooters. Thanks for sharing your experiences 👍 (That "battery sag" thing seems to be a commonality among all electric scooters. I think it's just the nature of the beast when you're dealing with these types of batteries.)

This is the most honest review I saw on RU-vid for a while, thank you

I cant believe you only have so little sub, your channels quality rivals big channels

Hi Nic, thanks for the videos about the Apollo City 2022, very interesting. Bough it even tho you don't recommend it yet. I love it, waterproof enough for my needs (test it intensively in wet/dirt/snow condition and passed the test easily). I found a fix for the hood always unlatching. I reversed the upper hook (by punching the pin out towards the left handle) and made the loop smaller by heating and clamping just a little so it can pass throught the lower hook. Works great after that, it was annoying me too much to leave it like that. Thanks again for the reviews and videos!

This is the best review I have EVER come across. I’d love the same exact honest review of the NIU KQI3 Max

Great review. It brings me more mess in my head considering between Segway P100s and Apollo CityPro. Nice work! Thank you.

Thanks for your very balanced review, really appreciated your honest opinion. I have bought one but will keep an eye open for the quirks and issues you have identified. Cheers!

Thank you for this review. It was super informative

Awesome video bro and thanks for sharing .

Fantastic video/content. I bought a GT2 and almost ordered this for my wife. We ended up with a p100s (fair weather riders only). I look forward to seeing what Apollo builds in the future!

Great review, I agree on and share all your views. Especially agree with the brake ergonomic issue. It’s my biggest annoyance, I’ll likely swap out the levers or 3D print my own. I’ve been commuting in the Vancouver rain with mine as well and it’s been pretty great while I’m decked out in aftermarket lighting. Also noticed Apollos shady sales practices, thank you for being the only one calling them out. Maybe I’ll see you out there, peace.

Excellent review you nailed it 👍🏻

I really don't comment on RU-vid videos but this is the best honest review I've ever seen so far. Thanks

What a great review, keep it up. I totally agree as an owner of the scooter, you said everything there is to say.

Thanks for your information about Appollo. I'm a Big Guy... 6'7", 290lbs (bouncer at bars) and originally, the Phantom and Ghost were the only ones I found that can carry 300lbs (me plus gear). After hearing all of your concerns, I chose to avoid Appollo and found the Emove Cruiser S that carries 352lbs and gets 99km's, while the Phantom only gets 64km's, and the Ghost only gets 60km's.

This is definitely an honest review not only on the scooter but also the company's marketing Strategy.

Great review. Wish others would be able to do same quality. Congratulations

The best review I have seen on the Apollo City Pro!

Thank you for making this video and posting this review. I've watched many reviews that go over the specs, but none that really went into what it was like owning it or for that matter the darker side of Apollo. I think I'll be ok with the newer 2023 version of this, they say that they have fixed the problems you have mentioned here and the things holding you back for saying that everyone should get one. So it's really just a matter of seeing if they can actually deliver on that promise.

I came for the scooter review, and it was great, but DAMN! That guitar case is awesome!

Great review👍

Honest review is KING. Don't hold back on the negatives ever. Companies are responsible for your safety & for your hard earned 🤑💰!!!!! We don't want con games!!! Soon or later bad companies will fail!!! Don't forget they can be sued for a few reasons. Lawyer up & learn about it.

Awesome review, quite in depth and good production quality. I'm surprised this was your first scooter review on the channel Do you make videos outside of this channel?

Thank you for bringing attention to the marketing side of their business as well. I do not want to support companies employing aggressive and fallacious marketing strategies.

Thank you for such an informative and honest review. This is definitely the best review of the Apollo scooter I've seen. It's very instructive as well. I would be really glad to hear your opinion about the latest 2023 model. Should we buy it, or not yet? 😊

Great & honest review. To me the best I have ever seen on YT. This is what we are minssing tese days. Did you have a chnce to review Apollo Phanton V2? Do you have your opinion on this one? I am considering this one with an upgrade V3 kit. Would appriciate your opinion. I was conciderning City Pro, but not any more 😉 thnks to you 👍🏼

Apollo wants to know. Good for you.They will only get better.They admit freely to their issues and will improve.

P.S. I’m mainly referring to the newest scooter line up models p65 p100 GT1 and GT2. As these are the ones that prompted me to research Segway scooters.

Great and fair review. I opted for the Apollo Air as I wanted a lighterweight option that had similar features to the City but wanted the peace of mind of an IP66 rating. Turned out to be a total sham. Scooter took on water just from riding on wet ground/in light rain. Have spent over $1500 and now have a brick in my living room. Wish I had heeded the advice of others before buying.

Appreciate the in depth long term and balanced review. AFAIU, you don't have an alternate that you prefer, though... which is the best endorsement.

Je suis tellement content d'avoir regarder cette présentation ce matin , hier j'avais acheter apollo city pro = 2074.55 $ CAD . J'ai annuler l'achat !! Moi c'était surtout pour les piste cyclable en gravier , a ce prix je veux un guidon solide et des freins beaucoup mieux positionnée . Merci beaucoup d'etre aussi honnête , je vais patienté encore 😉

Great review man

Anyone who needs to commute within a city in the Pacific Northwest and needs to rely on their scooter and know it won't get water damage should check out the Vig Yrsa (Vig is a Victoria-based scooter company). It's the only scooter with an IP68 rating and more importantly the only one that covers water damage under warranty.

Sounds like a simple issue, the stem wobble, of where vibration is causing the adjusting screw to loosen. A little blue thread lock should fix that. On my Segway the mounting screws for the steering kept coming loose but the blue thread lock stopped that. Who knows if I ever will beable to remove thise screws now.

Great review...Coming from someone who is potentially going to buy a very lightly used 2022 single motor for $700 I am thinking twice. By the time I am done correcting these issues it's as much as the GO...Might start there.

dude, your Review is just incredible - I loved everything about it! Please do more! I would also be interested what you think about this Scooter right now (Feb 2024) - do you still own it? Or would you rather get the 2023 City Pro (or an entire different scooter) instead?

Water resistance in the wheels motor is where ur water damage will come over long term, unless they are using silicone seals around the wheel cover ( I doubt it) as soon as 1 screw is not perfectly tight u will get water in the wheel motor/ already are getting water in there slowly

6 months later, my apollo city pro, has some things needing addressing. First, regen brake and throttle sticking, was addressed by apollo as they sent me replacements free of charge. I installed them and now all sticking has been addressed and these new ones are smoother. After installation, the bell is basically non-functioning due to the regen being larger and now the fit is too tight. I didn’t really use the little dinging bell anyway, preferring an Orb light/horn instead. Second issue, is hook to latch to carry the scooter but since it didn’t lock you’re counting on the weight (a little heavy 72 lbs, but not impossible to lift) to keep it from un-catching mid-carrying. It seems to be resolved with a replacement hook (there’s a spring loaded lock) that’s not available yet. The app is good, but i have to re-enter preferences like max speed due to it resetting to 12mph top speed after powering down the app. love the dual motors, decent distance, handling. There’s a new kickstand out which i’ll determine if it’s needed. There’s also a new handlebar kit coming soon, with improved accessories on it, including the kickstand and hook. Perfection would be everything the same but 20 lbs lighter for carrying upstairs, perhaps new materials and battery in the future. Kudos to apollo for enhancing the city pro ‘22 rather than just forgetting about it’s customers and telling us to just buy the next model as if we want a garage with unused scooters.

screwed in the locking mount how many times? Did you use Loctite? Seems like any time I have a problem like that on my scooter or bike, that fixes it the first time.

Thank you for a great review. I am not sure you did show on this video how to tighten the stem if it wobble, if not could you please advice the best way to stop this. Much appreciated.

Great review, thanks! I'm still shopping, and Apollo still looks ok, with qualifications, compared to others. Any other suggestions?

Thank you for the video.

Great video. I have city pro since august, 1900 km on the clock. I had pretty much every problem with it possible. One of the worst things is the handlebars, each handle is connected to the middle unit by only one screw, I happened to lift my scooter with the handles over the curbs and that caused movement in handles over time, cannot tighten them threads must be damaged, It wouldn't last long for anyone jumping off the curbs. Poor design with the handles in my opinion. I would rather have solid handlebars. Btw my brake adjustment is completely rusted can't move it anymore :D Subscribed!

Siupport from Apollo is pretty appaling, but finding a local service friend, like Fatwhip in Kitsilano, is a game changer. The unit is great, but Apollo's customer service sucks. Don't expect any help from them. As for self sealing tires... yeah, right! BTW the head now attaches with 4 strong screws.

Good job 👍 Thank You

Nick, great vid! Is there the ability to add a side mirror to the left grip like I have on my regular bike to see people/cars behind and to left of me?

great honest review

19:18 Attach a flat, flexible piece of plastic to the back of the deck. There’s your improved fender.

The cracking stems apparently had to do with the weld joint there and the newer stems look different

wait , iI left a skid mark 2 houses long just trying to use only drum on my mosquito, I'm scared of the front regen because I dont want to indo -- I broke my collar bone on it anyway but I still love it lol, now theres a flat spot on the solid tire that goes thunk thunk thunk, but since I can't read the gauge well it lets me know how fast I'm going

completley agree on the water resistance rating, i'm in the UK and it's essential. Plus where i am, the distributor has 8 repair centres, 1 25 miles from me.

I’ve ridden kqi3 pro for 1k miles and it’s been good the best scooter the only thing that broke was the kickstand other than that it’s one seriously good build quality scooter I can vouch for that

I ended up chopping the city pro back in for an in motion s1. Obviously very different scooters (dual vs single etc) but have to say I’m miles more impressed with the S1’s build quality etc. no brainer for half the price IMO…

Best review i have seen. Just bought a refurbished one for 1399 CAD, so not sure its a good price but it seems so. Wife is from Montreal so need to show support.

Is the Apollo city recommended for 2024? Went with the Ninebot max g2 last summer, over this. You’re making me feel I made the right choice. However I do wish I could upgrade my suspension, without spending an exorbitant amount of money or doing larger than necessary my max mod kits. Just an added dampener and rubber stopper might suffice. What do you think? 🤔

Great review. Safety and quality assurance should be the No.1 priority Apollo should aware

I love your pointing out the IP ratings on scooters. To say anything is a "Commuter" tool, it HAS to be IP66. Or "Off Road". How can anything be off-road and not be dust proof and water proof (well or IP66). I saw one reviewer saying its because the "plug & Play" connectors can't be IP66. As usually, most of the reviewers are not knowledgeable in what they are talking about. They are cheap infomercials! Great video, thank for doing such a great review. Wondering if anything you pointed out will change in 2024??

The battery going up when stopping is from battery sag.

Will you be reviewing Apollo City Pro 2023 later on? I honestly prefer this long term reviews. Apollo seem to address the concerns you have with 2023 iteration, but i still wanna see user reviews especially yours

i also rode this ina thunderstorm and it was great

Hey, how do you clean the suspension coils out of interest?! Other than hosing down I’m struggling! Any issues with front wheel / tyre squeaking when slowing down? Mine sounds like something making contact with tyre but nothing obvious having inspected….thanks!

What a clown show with those prices. Thanks for the honest review, subscribed!

The new Apollo Pro should be their best commuter but will cost 3 times the cost of the City.

Thank you for calling out the sale pricing bullshit!

I'm willing to spend up to 1200 ... I want distance and a smooth ride. Speed - no big deal, but at least 20mph. At least 10 inch non solid tires. I returned a Ninebot max with a bad throttle. I have a Gotrax G4 and want something a little better as my main one. Any suggestions?

This escooter was on my list... Now I'm having my doubts !

hope they fixe all the issues

Amazing video wow

great video

They also gave me 200 in accessories with mine. Quality products.

Inmotion S1F has IP56 rating (but it's pretty much a ninebot max with better specs so it's probably better), if anyone is looking for a cheaper alternative to the city pro, it can also go significantly farther, albeit slightly slower.

Where did you get that gopro to garmin edge mount? I want one.

Man i must be blessed or something, im at 500km on my phantom and 0 issues what so ever. I do however check my scooter after every ride and make sure everything is good and tight.

Yes cos of that I wudent buy that same thing make lott off company's. But I hawe almost similar scooter Vsett 8 with regen break and drum breaks whic are ok and regan I put on 2 cos drum brakes are oke, also warranty is unbelievable good but I think that thet depends from reseller too reseller I bot it 1km from my house and guys are always here and they will help mee for what I need . And I ride 450km and there is noo woble suspension is wery good and rear motor is wery good.

I’m debating between the P100s and the Apollo City Pro 2023. I like the look of the Apollo, it’s a little lighter, and I think it probably has a little more hillclimbing power. I like the battery charging limit and visual indicators when charging on the P100s. The P100s also seems like it would be more stable at high speeds. Is the two wheel drive a big advantage? Keeping the suspension clean looks like a pain for the Apollo. What are your thoughts between these two scooters?

The whole reason why I would like to purchase a city pro is because of the water rating. I own a Apollo Ghost (I love it btw) but the weather is ridiculous here in Australia & I can't predict the weather. The barrings I know would need to be replaced due to me riding in the inclement weather. & it's not easy to do

Was the mystery scooter outline at around 20:00 an emove cruiser?

I need something to commute in London , about 20/25 miles daily. Can you recommend this one ? Whether I should buy something else?

I've been wanting a City Pro pretty bad, ever since I started shopping around for scooters stronger than my Ninebot Max, but the number of complaints on reddit is just insane.. if Apollo properly fixes everything I guess that would make them a great company, but I have yet to see anything indicating they've done that. They raised the price after reviewers like you pointed it out too lol.. or did they?

Do you believe these gremlins have been addressed at this point during production of the current generation 2022 Apollo City Pro? Or, do you still recommend waiting for the next updated version? Should we expect a 2023 update to the Apollo City Pro? Do you continue to struggle with the neck clamp?

I've sent mine back to distributor for repair today. Have had an absolute nightmare with the front wheel / motor. Creaking / friction sounds and then this weekend a loss of thrust and power from the front motor which eventually led to it not working at all this morning. Really disappointing given it's done about 20km's (most of which locally just testing and riding to see what the fault is).

This was great

In the end there's not a single escooter that can be improved or has problems/design flaws, especially after time -- am curious to see what you would recommend instead.. happily they have a new update re. display, folding latch, kickstand, front turn signals, sticky throttle...

Is this the 2022 model? The light has been replaced on the 2023 model

Thanks for a great review! I once rode a friend's 900$ scooter that had a slightly stuck throttle issue. that wasn't a pleasant experience because it slowed the breaking. Since then I commited to buy one without any breaking and throttle issues because safety is priority for me. I think the scooters priced 2x times shouldn't have similar issues. I hope their 2023 upgrade will fix everything. A whoobly handlebar is the second one I'd fix before buying it. At the same time, I still wasn't able to find a decent alternative with same or better specs. So I'll be waiting and riding my bike meanwhile.