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Genshin gave their players one customized artifact every 4-6 months! They are the most generous gacha company on this planet. I think WuWa is doomed!

Kuro doesn't listen, they're in your wall

"I have 3 principles: love yourself, love your game, love your players." - Solon Lee (CEO of Kuro games) incredibly based dev.

Even if Kuro keeps listening, ungrateful people will never be satisfied lol

In one of the interviews Kuro did, the devs team mentioned something along the line like this: 'You can shit talk the game, give all the negative feedback you want, but please stay, stay and see what the future holds for the game.' Kuro ftw

And this is why I spent 150$ trying to get Changli lmao. Worth IMO, because I love this game and it's Devs. Actually want to support it. GJ Kuro

I like how genshin say they listen to player and make you able to swap while flying/climbing/swimming and its turn out they put it behind character passive -_-

Solon Lee stated they'll have a conservative mindset in developing the game Like not thinking to big and don't mind much on revenue as long as quality content is being given. The latest interview gave me assurance that the game will succeed.

and genshin hardcore fans will say "it's because of da wei, not wuwa" and keep coping 😂😂

I love this game. I wish Kuro could give us the ability to re-watch those beautiful cutscenes whenever we wanted. Like a gallery for videos. That would've been amazing. I hope they'll do it in the future.

Genshin also listened too! - They add Artifacts Loadouts but not what players expected😅 - They also increase resin! But only a bit around 200, not even 240.😢 - They also add costumize artifacts you just have to wait for months 😢 - They also add mounts, but only for one region only 😢 - You want your characters to move faster or do Plunge attacks, they also add it too!😮 Inside Gacha Paywall, you just have to buy for this characters and you'll get your QOL you want💀 See! Genshin Devs also listened. They listened to the voices of Money and Stick & Carrot Method to whip their Playerbase to shape 😊

It truly is Genshin Could Never. Genshin ALWAYS has to put in something in their implementation to abuse their players because that is what keeps the players coming back for more. The Genshin community is a bunch of Stockholm's.

They even do things for us that we didn't ask for and some of us didn't even notice it. I saw a vid saying (the difference in characters animation while walking on the stairs change from 1.1 to 1.2) THEY MADE IT SMOOTHER And I'm like I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT AT ALL Such an amazing dev team, thank you kuro ❤

Last nail in the coffin gonna be when Kuro adds customized echoes

It's not even "devs listened", I swear it's devs eavesdropped" lol

At this point Kuro is basically ruining everything by doing almost all the "right" things that other much bigger games never did or are just doing it now. Don't get me wrong Azur Lane, Ark Knights, Blue Archive and Nikke were probably doing all the right things as well but the take away is that they needed to as their games aren't as big as something like Genshin, that's why when WuWa showed that even big games can and should do things right for their players they are instantly hated because people were so used being mistreated in Genshin by Hoyo that they are all in denial and to cope they hate the game and devs that are trying to do better.

They said "I'm going to adopt a bunch of disappointed players, and feed them good soup and put them in a fun playground" and they did. I am a casual player, with college and life stresses. But I still find time to play events and quests in WuWa without getting frustrated. They really cared about the players and I can feel that. Thank the heavens for these devs. Atleast the people now realizing that ITS NOT THAT HARD TO LISTEN, IF YOU ACTUALLY CARE.

As a hardcore day one PGR player, Kuro has always proven that they'll always keep an ear out for criticism and it's amazing to see their growth over the past 5 years. Though, it's bittersweet for me to see it took this long for them to earn the spotlight they deserve.

Lets get character/team loadouts and I'm a happy boy. After that, I have nothing to complain about besides my Echo RNG.

These should be the correct way to have players hook in your game, aside from that, it also makes f2p support the game more. Im f2p before but after 2 months, seeing the progression is how the game goes from good to doing better and better, and being so generous, i bought the monthly lunite sub and i dont do this in all of my other games just in this game😅 Also the way their gacha system works, i think for me you always get early 5star like 80% of the time, base on my experience. I got hard pity at 70 for once, and weapon banner is guaranteed. And yes 70 is hard pity for me which should be 80 right. 😅

The only game that I will actually put in a real thought in each patch feedback (In genshin I never did because i know they will not listen) One change I would like to see is making past events playable like how they did in HSR Also, increase the waveplate storge to like 2400

"Convenient travel mechanics aren't locked to a single region or section of the map". Natlan called out. Every single new Natlan character we have, or have leaks for, has a new travel mechanic. Genshin ties travel mechanics to specific characters only AND they tie specific characters travel mechanics to specific regions. It's so scummy.

Once they make custom markers nameable, i'll truly die happy.

Did you guys know that the new Genshin artifact stuff is utterly garbage? Need 4 bottles to craft an artifact. You can only make 1 bottle per patch (41) days. IT TAKES 5 MONTHS to make 1.

theyre not listening, theyre stalking

I want this game to succeed so bad coz it’s genuinely a good game and I love how the devs make it better

kuro is cooking and bringing great qol implementation. great game to enjoy long term 💓🔥

Even if you dont like WuWa, you cant deny the fact that they are a Wake up call for all the other Games like Genshin.

The only complaint they haven't fixed yet is the very small & low contrast text all over the game. For PC its fine, but on mobile, it is very2 hard to see & read.

kuro just want to make a good game, unlike others who just want to sell their products as much as possible

The CEO crying is still so funny to me. And people believing it? Even funnier. They f up the "new endgame", and now, the " new artifact system", seriously, how does Hoyoverse keep doing that? Learn a bit from Kuro, no?

These Kuro guys are ruining everything

The hoyoshills still coping by saying all this qol updates are already long planned by hoyo, not because of wuwa. U cant make this shit up, the delusions of hoyoshills 😂

As a person who plays both, the difference between the genshin and wuwa devs is day and night. A free meta limited character in the first 4 months vs a free standard outdated character after 4 YEARS.

This video is good. I was so used to the good things in Wuwa I almost forgot we eating good now. Hopefully other games will follow suit to be better.

Turns out its possible to both make money and make a good game! Its truly possible!

I am sure there are small technical issues still to be addressed, but as a whole I indeed agree with most all of this. I believe they are doing their darnedest to the best of their ability when and where they can. The VA is another area that you can tell has seen improvement, at least for ENG. (Yangyang isn't as grating as she was before for sure) However, the audacity to put one of the best songs in the game at the end of your video secures my like to you sir!

Nah bro, as much as I agree with the points, echo mats still needs to be better, events aren't enough, we need a fixed source to grind tuners and tubes instead of depending on just events and 3rd grade category mats to grind tuners and xp

THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN 5.0 AND HOYODOGS MANAGED TO FUKC IT UP HAHAHAHGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO WORRIES IT'LL BE FIXED. AFTER PEOPLE COMPLAIN, WE CALL IT "DOG TRAINING". but it's not even NECESSARY 😂

4 years answering their surveys, and they only listened when a competitor showed up. I'm so glad I stopped playing Genshin, and Mihoyo games in general.

Wuwa and other gacha players have only now started eating good stuff that Kuro fed to PGR players all them years 😭😭

I don't know how I stumbled onto this channel since I don't really watch any videos about Wuthering Waves. But hey, glad the game is still doing well! I hope it stays relevant in the future, especially with a lot of open-world action RPGs set to release soon. I stopped playing because my time is limited, and open-world games take up too much time, but I still wish the best for the game and those who continue to play it.

“Genshin could ne….wait… godammit! Genshin still could never…”

You should make a video called the best content creator in gacha gaming with the thumbnail saying Wuwa ruined Saintontas

The energy system in Wuwa can be deceiving. Yes we get more energy but the cheapest activity costs double. To actually see with one is more generous with their energy system you would have to break down how many hours worth of energy it takes to max a character on each game.

Had WuWa not existed, Genshin would have still only been giving 100 primogems per bug fix, 10 fates per anniversary, and so much more, you can't deny that.

Kuro did what hoyo couldn't. Improved genshin impact. Lmao

This updates and QoL made me not wanting to pull out my hair, turning bald like Homer Simpson o_o

Bro, I am very skeptical on spending money on gatcha/p2w games. this game made me open my wallet big time. if they can double down on VA and music. my god in 2-3 years this game will be bigger than genshin, i can bet my money on it( as i am already doing it).

They ruin everything!! How dare they?!! 😤😤😤

They still hadn't made it great on mobile sadly, mobile players are treated like a second class players. 120FPS, RTX for PC, PS5 release, but no updates or focus on controller support on mobile, a common complaint since launch. Can't say they listened hard enough until that gets added. It's such a basic thing for an action game and that's more impactful than QoL like a shooting droid

The "Thank you Kuro Games" movement. But tbh, when I try to go back to Genshin, as soon as I try to run in the game and run out of stamina, i immediately just Alt+F4.

Because they listen a lot, I tried messaging them in game feedback to see if it's real lol. I asked for a feature where domains like simulation or weapon/talent can have an option for auto-sweep once you've finished it once like in love and deepspace or tower of fantasy for casuals but also has an option to still run if that's what the player prefers lol. I didn't expect to get a response but they replied after about 15mins lol XD. They didn't guarantee to implement my request tho but they said they'll be looking to it. I'll just put that in their next survey and hope someone will have the same request lol. 🤣

healthy competition is always a good thing to advance the standards in gaming. especially in games that offer multiplayer contents.

Fair points. ...but to clarify 4:28, Genshin started off with a 120-resin cap, which received significant criticism as players practically needs to login twice a day. In response to this feedback, the devs increased the resin cap and introduced Condensed Resin in version 1.1. Glossing over that fact is kinda unfair no?

I'm convinced that one section of Kuro HQ that never closes is a bunch of wholesome Asian guys who somehow came to the conclusion that a free 10 pull across all banners wasn't enough to compensate 2 hours of the server being down and they had to add in a free 5 star in the next patch

All of things g-game did recently because of competition was not even the bare minimum - it's literally nothing of value if you really know how that game works. It's just a media move along with crocodile tears just people also get some tiny piece of listening, because when you are this big, you don't need to actually do good things - you just need to do a minimum and just spend on marketing like you always do instead of actually improving the game. Sadly people are stupid and this will work.

I'll admit that Kuro isn't perfect and they make quite a few mistakes, but the willingness to own up to it and fix it is worth so much more.

I really hope Kuro keeps up the good work. The game just needs more end game content and further improvement to the echo system. We need ways to trade echos for a type of resource and to see new Sonata Effects for upcoming echoes.

The one thing i don't understand is, people have been waiting for Gaming Devs like this. They're doing it everything every Consumer is asking for.. yet people still find things to nitpick, butcher, complain about. So Im in Awe about alot of the Major Content Creators not covering this and praising these DEVS more? I just hope some of those Doomposting CC"s aren't just lying in wait, i feel like they're all about to burst just to say something negative about that company and if they do i hope alot of the active community and players remember that one fuck up cannot define the competency of a company, it's should always be about what they do to address negative feedback.

I actually get the 5* gun for Chixia and built her fully for easy exploration and farming at the same time. Only for f***ing Kuro to add this sheessh! Bruh

Hoyotards will still complain

I honestly was not interested in playing until the game fully came out. I ended up liking the combat being a devil may cry fan. I did not experience many bugs on launch and the free gifts kept me going. Then Yinlin came out and later Changli. So im locked in now with 2 mommies to play with :)

Wuwa isnt a genshin killer but rather a genshin eye opener

They need ro hurry up and put this damn game on PS5.

no but seriously, the modelling resin with Genshin is painful, after hyping such hopes

Recently I reached level 45 union or whatever its called so I decided to start farming for Echos to build my characters and I am surprised at how quickly I managed to get good Gold tier Echos with the stats I want. That, and fusing the lower tier Echos I had helped a lot too. I think WuWa might be the easiest gacha games I ever played when it comes to building characters.

one thing I've come to be sure of. genshin impact has 0 respect for the player's time. in fact they purposefully make everything in the game take so much unnecessary time. no matter how much people complain they just don't care. I didn't notice that for the first year I was playing genshin, but when I gave it another shot after wuwa it was all painfully clear what they were doing. you can glaze genshin all you want that's fine, but don't tell me you don't see what they're doing is on purpose

when the dev doing her job as should be

I hope they know how much we appreciate them because the fans ask for way too much sometimes and I don't want them to stop

i know that all of them (kuro and hoyo) will giving more freebies and more QoL to get player attention and playing their game. but i think i will stay playing wuwa and hsr for now. i already stop playing genshin and not interested to play again, even with a lot of freebies and QoL in nathlan because i like the contents that kuro give to player. *dang bro 4-6 months for one customized artifact? its not worth at all

To anyone who thinks competition is bad you are wrong believe it not having a rival.that can potentially over comw you forces both games to keep up quality work while not shoving mediocre shot down our throats or leaving us in.the cold.

"x-company will NEVER beat y-company in monthly revenue charts" no shit tell me which games have early constellation 1/2 bait that massively improve combat/exploration QoL 😂 or heck, compare how many pulls it takes to get max dupes + weapon refines for a 5-star 😂

small thing I'd like to point out with the Genshin devs, Hoyoverse has different dev teams for their different games, HSR, Hi3, Gi, and ZZZ, just for some reason the Genshin dev team seems like the greediest of the bunch, and I think the backlash finally got to them or something cause they started stepping up their game recently. at least this is what I noticed

DEV'S EAVESDROPPED !!!!

Genuinely this is why I never regret spending every penny on WuWa. We need to support good devs.

Kuro: does literally anything Entire wuwa community: DEVS LISTENED OMG GENSHIN COULD NEVER TOF DEAD GAME 💀💀💀

Mihoyo have been so stingy for the last three years, getting review bombed every single time and they don't care. WuWa appears from nowhere and suddenly, Mihoyo starts giving away lots of weapons, free chars, custom artifacts, a little bit of qol. Still no Skip Button, the censorship and the Daily/Weekly restrictions are still there, but it's a good start. This is why competition is important. _B-But Star Rail!!_ Idk I don't play that one...

They only need to listen one last thing - echo exp, then the game is perfect enough for me already (also more male char pls ehe)

Yes , Kuro is a blessing in gacha game's market , they set-up the standard of a user friendly gacha environment so much so Hoyoverse started to take action be it as little as it is . I really hope Kuro thrive so that the pressure add-up to Hoyoverse and at the end of the day all of this competition in the market edging Devs to compete and make improvement to their game it ONLY benefits us players so to those who is complaining , u guys really need to re-valuate your priority😅

How to make your Community Spend money on your Game? Give them Top Notch QOL A happy Gamer is Basically A potential Spender I was blown away by this game(wuwa) I play Genshin backthen "Religiously" (day1 player) And when I compare the game i just cant believe how Mihoyo freakin scam their player base for 4 years After coming back to genshin for 5.0 I cannot play the game the same, im always trying Wall run and double jump hahaha I put Yelan, Kazuha, Sayu on my Exploration team just so i can explore natlan "easier" Unlike wuwa, the game basically feed you this gadgets to have an immersive open world experience Tldr: genshin need to step-up so badly man Even the freakin artifact creation was horendous and timegated Jeez Now i only play GI for Lore, just wanted to see how this story would go P.s. Kachina is so Fun to play beyblade FTW

I remember theres this issue in PGR where CN players are complaining abt the tower of babylon(Challenge similar to hologram) being easy and not challenging so kuro listened and made tower of babylon so damn hard even one of the top players in CN complained and said it was UNBEATABLE. theres a video in YT of that player streaming the level u can check it

Genshin didnt... shut up...did they really screw up that bad with the custom artifact HAHAHAHAHAHA I'll make fun of every genshin simp I see , that was one if not the biggest W they got for 5.0 and they got nothing at the end, still could roll into bad rolls lol months of waiting and crafting for nothing... once we get editable stats on echoes is over, we only need to edit maybe 1 stat of a echo to be perfect and if they get 2 possible edit Item per patch Ill be happy for ever, people should use feedback more and ask for Edit echos tuning item and be reasonable get 1 from event 1 from abyss reset store which is every like 30 days

i love the echo system! the problem for me is that i never have enough echo exp but I have an abundance of tuners - I wish they added farming echo exp like the other training materials even if there was a weekly limit on how much you can farm. But other than that, I'm loving the game and even the things I don't like are less of a bother because I know the devs will just keep improving the game beyond what i can even think of!

I mean. Kuro kinda has to listen since it's literally the best way to gain ground in the market vs Hoyo's Genshin. Though that last one first took a hit from their own company wirh HSR fixing stuff that Genshin still 4 yrs in they hadn't fix.

Listening to the players thoughts is the least a development could do all i can say is Devs Listened

They are a lot of good gacha developers out there but It's Kurogames who popularized the Devs Listened because of them being more mainstream compared to other gacha games out there and being constantly compared to one of the most popular gacha which is Genshin

There still going to be people complaint about wuwa being mid. 😂

Meanwhile genshin.........hey traveler is getting into a swimsuit........WAIT WHY IS JUST A 2D PICTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LAZY!!!!!!!!!!!

Kuro stepped up when genshin couldn't

Right, the typical Kuro shill thinking their B game is the reason genshin is implementing QoL instead of the release of their 4th big game which are starting to cannibalize their own playerbases. This is just Hoyo bringing genshin up to the expectations they cultivated in their own playerbase with the release of Star Rail and now ZZZ. Don't get me wrong, I like WuWa myself but this is just delusional.

As an ex genshin whaler, I am glad I quit. Now dedicate my life for husbando in wuthering waves.

kuro respects player's real life time?

I always love seeing people thinking 160 resin cap was the base for Genshin when in fact 120 used to be the cap for resin in that game for quite a while

the only gacha game i would willingly spend on. they show their love for the game and their community, so i have no problem giving back.

From the toxicity perspective, surely PGR isn't free from it. But honestly it's pretty tame compared to what Genshin has, and this made me thinking the loud and toxic minority in WuWa are prob people who disappointed with Genshin and moving in here bringing the same exact mentality they had in Genshin back then.

I love wuwa but the waveplate convo is totalllllly off. it doesn't matter that the cap is 240, if the lowest consumption activity is 40 waveplates, and the most needed to grind one is 60 waveplates, this means genshin actually gives the player the ability to farm more material as the levels cost less stamina to claim rewards for. In order to equal genshin, wuwa would need 320 waveplates, and they'd also need to refill faster to fill at 320 in 21 hours, as opposed to 32 hours. Genshin allows the player to play about 30% more. I feel this is the only flaw of the game, as I now feel encouraged to only log in maybe every two days, play in bulk, and then log off, as using even 400 stamina only takes perhaps 5 minutes as the realms for weapon materials in wuwa are incredibly short. This is the primary and only flaw in the game for me. It's absurdly fun, but I simply want to play it more each day.

It's actually an honor not to be a F2P to support Kuro devs, they deserve it. I actually break my F2P rule for them.

if kuro keeps listening ppl will autocomplete the game in 2 clicks and obtain 5stars as login reward every day! this is not a game is a KAREN's paradise

I personally attribute Genshin's recent positive changes to this healthy competition. It's not about which game will "kill" which game. It's about how one can spur improvements in the other.