The Best Dogfighter ? | F-16C Viper Vs YF-23 Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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@GrowlingSidewinder Месяц назад

Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ DCS F-16 Viper: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/modules/viper/?

@GeneralPadron Месяц назад

Apparently, DCS doesn't know the capabilities of the YF-23 Widowmaker.

@firebald2915 Месяц назад

"It's not the plane, it's the ejection seat." - Martin-Baker

@Sajuuk Месяц назад

The YF23, the F22's bane.

@yuuzyerbrejn9603 Месяц назад

We once watched an F-16 Viper demo pilot do a 350 knot 9g circle WITHIN the forest boundaries of the runways of the local airport in Florida- Titusville in this case. I couldn't freakin believe it!

@Anarchy_420 Месяц назад

Please create a Vid with The A-10C & F-15E while on the same team competing! In the sense that you'll not really looking out for each other, trying to get the most kills (+important kills), and of course survive! VS Couple Mi-24's, few Iglas, Strela, Tunguska, SA-5, and couple SU-25's! Plus provide ground support VS .50 Technical Trucks, BTR's, BMP's, T-72's, and couple T-90's!🙏👍

@jbc242424 Месяц назад

I want to see YOU in that YF-23!

@EB-Ghost6 Месяц назад

bro probably just foretold the future

@_vortech_ Месяц назад

YAS!!!!!!

@AdRxElite Месяц назад

Generally these modded aircraft tend not to have fleshed out interiors and are otherwise pretty barebones and GS has a history of staying away from that for the most part.

@_vortech_ Месяц назад

@AdRxElite I did not know that. So, all we need is for someone to 3D build a cockpit and to have the avionics written up for each system.

@drewparcel1727 Месяц назад

I have been hoping to see GS in the black widow every time I see a video dropped that features it. Now I just see it at a running joke. How many videos will GS drop of the f23 where he doesn’t even fly it. I’ve heard that many mods will use cockpits out of other jets and I would be willing to look past that.

@manzelli1981 Месяц назад

I love these head to heads against Toxic. Dude can fight.

@NoName-yl1js Месяц назад

who is toxic? im always curious about this guy bcs he seems like a worthy opponent for gs

@ghostrowbot3189 Месяц назад

Came here to say the same dude can fly.

@FuzedBox Месяц назад

That Br3aker7 guy he fought against yesterday was really, really good and he seemed to know exactly how GS's mind works. He was a scary opponent that I'd like to see more of.

@otterconnor942 Месяц назад

It would be hilarious if toxic was using a Xbox controller to beat GS

@xeiroe_gaming Месяц назад

take a drink every time GS says "circle" i lasted about 6 minutes. posting this from heaven

@mk6315 Месяц назад

I survived but my urine now has an octane rating

@Ayeshteni Месяц назад

Iii'mm aa fiyne, I muy bee a liddl druunk............

@Missile_Guidance_System482 Месяц назад

Heujeneejsisgeyyhehehshhehhhhhuuuuuuhhhhh......???? I'm sober now. Never doing that again...

@happyduckling8401 Месяц назад

Segutxvtexxsaz

@lewiemotorsports3616 Месяц назад

Yf23 is such a scary but beautiful looking bird.

@maximan4363 Месяц назад

I love the YF-23!!! It should have won against the YF-22, both are utterly outstanding!!!! Yep the unloaded F-16 is an amazing dogfighter - it's what it was made for!! What NGAS can do will be fecking scary!!!

@benn454 Месяц назад

At least you got revenge for the headshots by making Toxic eject straight into the ground in the last round.

@andie_pants Месяц назад

Props to whoever was piloting the Black Widow... that wasn't just dogfighting, that was aerial ballet.

@devanarayans5131 Месяц назад

Exactly it was simply beautiful.. The f22 could never

@Ifoughtpiranhas Месяц назад

It's cool to see the cannon shells exploding on the ground as GS "walks" his stream of 20mm into the YF-23. Such great details the programmers accomplished in this sim.

@SM-qo9gr Месяц назад

GS be like "im chasing his tail" WHILE HAVING BANDIT ON HIS TAIL!😂

@noahhastings6145 Месяц назад

"I'm 350° off his tail!"

@hkguitar1984 Месяц назад

7:54, Civilian Potato Cam? I Like it!

@rocketpunchgo1 Месяц назад

You know it's going to be a good fight when Toxic is at the stick.

@earlwoody777 Месяц назад

I love you when you get a cockpit shot your voice cuts out too, makes it all the more funny lmao. Love you GS

@DeeSnow97 Месяц назад

the F-16 is such an amazing aircraft. looks like with no blunders in this match-up it should win every time, but the YF-23 is so unforgiving, it really demands the same respect as the F-22

@WesterGuard Месяц назад

"5th generation pilot face targeting system." LOL!! 😆🤣😆

@nicomeier8098 Месяц назад

If I recollect correctly, the YF23 had better IR stealth and radar stealth, as well as higher super cruise and more range then the YF22, but was more an interceptor then a dog fighter.

@Xenomorphine Месяц назад

Also had at least one fatal flaw. Plus, the USAF was not happy about Northrop's dodgy behaviour, regarding B-2 funds.

@recoilrob324 Месяц назад

IIRC the YF-23 did not have a functioning weapons bay and could not launch missiles as the YF-22 had already done....and there was a lot of concern that the fuselage structure would be compromised when the weapons bay was cut out. The composite structure was still experimental where the YF-22 made of proven materials and techniques....the AF likes 'Evolutionary' rather than 'Revolutionary' aircraft designs that they can have high confidence they won't run into insurmountable issues during development.

@baremetalmafia Месяц назад

Do not be surprised if you notice huge similarities with the YF-23 and the NGAD when we finally see it.

@Xenomorphine Месяц назад

@@baremetalmafia Why would there be? It's obsolete technology. Northrop isn't known to have won the NGAD contract, either. Any similarities would be superficial and cosmetic, at absolute best.

@davidgeorge5531 Месяц назад

Just went to the Air Force museum in Dayton. They have a YF-23 it is so amazing

@luckyno888 Месяц назад

YF-23 looks like the deadliest flying squirrel.

@hanrockabrand95 Месяц назад

The recent update also makes grass wave in the jetwash behind the runway. It looks so cool

@raz4371 Месяц назад

Trees also flex when explosions go off near them

@hanrockabrand95 Месяц назад

@@raz4371 As do I when they go off near me 💪

@confuse3671 Месяц назад

Reality - the F23 RCS from all aspects was so low that your RADAR gun sight would have troubles keeping him locked. Think about about that for a while.

@MTEditz Месяц назад

Thats the purpose of the dynamic gun funnel. If you don't have lock then you put the tips of each wing in the funnel and shoot. Same results, just takes a little more skill. Also not how rcs works. Once you're WVR the RCS is so close that any capable plane can get a lock. They'll just lose the lock frequently during the maneuvers.

@Someth1n_ Месяц назад

Not when ur eyes can see it lol stealth fighter not invisible fighter

@themanhimself6696 Месяц назад

@@Someth1n_ He wasn't talking about the stealth, he was talking about ground interference.

@kugelblitzkrieg Месяц назад

Love that image you put up for the 1 circle, definitely would be useful for people who don’t know much about dogfighting. The camera shot was awesome too!

@realitysux_0128 Месяц назад

The YF-23 looks like a sugar glider in mid-flight from certain aspects

@firebald2915 Месяц назад

Thanks for the ground view video camera work on the Round 2 kill shot, GS. F16 has my heart.

@MrErictank Месяц назад

2:2 with a fifth-Gen, not too shabby at all. That third-round clip from aft of the -23 as he shot you down was GORGEOUS, though. Such a beautiful fighter.

@dl6519 Месяц назад

The YF-23 has the outlawed hourglass on the bottom! GREAT detail!!

@GrowlingSidewinder Месяц назад

nice to see someone knows the story there and also noticed the detail.

@dl6519 Месяц назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder Nice to see someone who can turn 'n' burn with a YF-23 in an F-16 and win half the time!

@pyronuke4768 Месяц назад

@@dl6519 GS said it himself: the F-16 doesn't care what the opponent brings, it can almost always out rate them.

@bradschumer173 Месяц назад

Yes!! more YF-23 content, please.

@viktorbihar5384 Месяц назад

I like how the 2 circle fight is visualized with the 2 best 2 circle fighters, the F-16 and the Mig 29, very cool.

@happysunk7142 Месяц назад

thank you for putting the 1-circle and 2-circle diagrams in the video, that's extremely helpful to see once in a while!

@Lew_in_Renton Месяц назад

LOVE the red and blue descriptions of circle fighting! Thanks!

@harveycasey1900 Месяц назад

That f23 looks like a flying squirrel

@_vortech_ Месяц назад

Thank you for doing my request. I was not really expecting this would happen. It would be interesting to see how you would manage the fight if you were in the YF-23 though. Pretty sure you'll come out on top each round.

@richardstoffel6585 Месяц назад

I was at Edward’s when the real yf-23 was up flying with f-16’s as chase … good times.

@EnvyEclipse Месяц назад

Small details like the camera filter makes GS vids so great haha great video brother

@CarsonMiller-Raven-7 Месяц назад

That camera effect was really cool, I would love to see that again! Also again amazing video GS.

@alexhunt2322 Месяц назад

The “from the ground” perspective is pretty cool! Would love to see more shots like that!

@airbuzzer3306 Месяц назад

Big thank you for bringing back the dogfight. I enjoy it very much ☺️

@mattbowe5618 Месяц назад

The 1 and 2 circle graphics that you've added to the last couple of videos are helpful.

@GermanBlackSheep Месяц назад

Love that replay camera overlay

@OutlawLotus Месяц назад

I feel like your opponent has spent some time in the Black Widow II and mastering the unique quirks of its high lift body. The amount of ground effect such a flat belly can produce is absolutely uncanny, and there were a number of times you saw him take advantage of that. That's someone who really enjoys that plane and committed a lot of time to mastering it. That was a really entertaining fight between you two.

@PhillipChalabi Месяц назад

I like the Raptor, I really do. But it was a travesty that the 22 won that competition.

@iTzNexXuS Месяц назад

This makes me want to see a dogfight between the YF-23 and the Su-47

@jf9458 Месяц назад

“Flying squirrel”

@The_Elder_Weeb Месяц назад

It amazes me every time how good of a pilot you are!

@libertylivesin1776 Месяц назад

That was some slick maneuvering before the first ending.

@Delzona Месяц назад

So cool to see aircraft when they are from bases that I was assigned to during my 26 years in the Air Force! Nice to see the Spangdahlem AB F-16 hold it's own against the YF-23.

@mbarnlund Месяц назад

It would be nice to have an explainer video on how to interpret ‘the funnel’ & related HUD indicators, when gunning a bandit. Great content as always!

@christopherjpfaff8460 Месяц назад

great match up and fight, good laughs, amazing video, thank you!

@acdfg3 Месяц назад

It's always a good day when GS uploads

@gwenthor Месяц назад

I'm really looking forward to seeing you in the cockpit of the YF-23.

@TheGoddamnBacon Месяц назад

The Popcorn Cam in the second duel was a nice touch.

@magiscichoam Месяц назад

Outstanding ACM! The better Pilot prevailed (albeit barely). Bravo!

@nielsbosmobile Месяц назад

Great video again. I always enjoy them! Btw, can you load tracer rounds in the F16? It would make it even more exciting, seeing how much rounds are off-target? Thanks!

@aytek98 20 дней назад

That reversal from YF-23 was so scary that I couldn’t help myself but scream. This thing is a sleeper.

@commandergeokam2868 Месяц назад

That camera effects on 8:00 + mins were golden if can use them again do it even in black and white with older aircraft

@jasonvick55 Месяц назад

Very impressive fight!

@Bumblebee7113 Месяц назад

Hey GS, if you have time in a video, could you talk about the different HUDs in different fighters? I find sometimes it's hard to follow which reticle is which when looking at the HUDs.

@zevermoon Месяц назад

YF-22 is weird because it's a 2 circle vertical fighter similar to a F-15. You always want a height advantage. If you get in trouble you want to reverse into a high altitude climb followed by a roll over dive onto the bandit. It's a weird aircraft it doesn't have the thrust vector to one circle fight.

@michagysin3082 Месяц назад

I love your videos so much!

@JoeKier7 Месяц назад

Very cool that the YF-23 has the hour glass on the bottom!

@charlieoscar09 Месяц назад

One of the closest contests so far....Both very good piloting

@ravstar52 Месяц назад

The easiest way I have to remember the difference between one and two circle is the number of planes in the circle. In a two circle, there are two planes doing a circle/orbit. In a one circle, there's one plane per circular orbit.

@Krommer1000 Месяц назад

Liked the new "Kill Cam".

@sana-cm7oc Месяц назад

Great video. Excellent fight. Great job Toxic - makes for better video having 2 good pilots. F-22 with 3 F-35 vs Su-37 and 3 Su-47.

@sonofvirginia Месяц назад

Loving the F16 videos.

@UpcycleShoesKai Месяц назад

Man, the Rate Fight does work.

@erikcourtney1834 Месяц назад

The black widow is literally a multi jet powered leaf.

@isaacwest Месяц назад

that's the first time i've seen GS take the pylons off the wings for better performance. yf-23 had him shook. :D

@dominicfemminineo4223 19 дней назад

The commonly understood reason why GS cuts his audio after he gets KIA is that it's for theatrical effect. In my head, the real reason is that he starts shouting a continuous barrage of obsenities until juuuuuuust before he turns the audio back on for the next round....

@joeldierker5982 Месяц назад

GS's been killed so many times by the 23 that I'm surprised he isn't developing arachnophobia...

@pyronuke4768 Месяц назад

Now you gotta take it up against a the other 70's American dogfighter, the Hornet

@moistmike4150 Месяц назад

Hey GS - Dat last fight... You got some holes in yer plane.

@codychild2665 Месяц назад

Great fights!

@SeaWasp Месяц назад

The YF-23 must have been equipped with the war crime targeting pod, what with the pilot snipes! Maybe that was the clincher when it came down to which aircraft was chosen. Great fights!

@Mav09 Месяц назад

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 4

@311Bob Месяц назад

3 rounds switch planes each round to eliminate plane advantage and showcase pilot skill.pilots start with their favorite and end in their favorite

@matthewjohnson6938 Месяц назад

Everyone say hi to the next best of deaths compilation vid

@firebald2915 Месяц назад

Lately, all compliments to Martin-Baker ejection seats into the ground.

@georgewashing10 Месяц назад

The merge on fight 3 looks like it put you in an offset 2-circle, rather than an overlapping one.

@ScotsmanDougal Месяц назад

"ejection, inverted, nto the ground ....." Isn't that your trick? haha

@Archer89201 Месяц назад

The silhouette of the YF-23 looks like a guy in a wing suit from far

@F23GreyGhost Месяц назад

Always love to see the YF-23. Would love to see it vs the other lifting body, the Su-57 in a dogfight

@MidnightAspec Месяц назад

Let’s see a Checkmate vs Black Widow showdown! 😁

@burhanilyas Месяц назад

Fighter from 70's still ruling

@hermanlopez2945 Месяц назад

Great fights.

@clothpillow7218 Месяц назад

You should try Nuclear Option! It's like near-future DCS

@davidpalmer4184 Месяц назад

Good work GS, I love the YF-23. Imagine if they used variable thrust in the trials, they had already nailed speed, stealth and range for a stealth fighter, they just didn't have the maneuverability in close combat. Considering the Government wasn't looking for a dog fighter it is such a shame that they moved the goal posts.

@thejetfighter Месяц назад

After those shots, now I know why the "Black Widow" name 😀

@usptact Месяц назад

Toxic was sweating for sure in that black widow :D

@Kcco03_ Месяц назад

He did such a good job

@MiJi_29 Месяц назад

It's interesting that the Pentagon preferred F-22 instead of Both. 2 Different Fighter Jet Roles with it's several advantages

@pete79602 Месяц назад

if DCS has the f8 crusader that would be cool to see you fly it, the real last GUNFIGHTER

@HoHum321 Месяц назад

Nice little graphics for 1-circle and 2-circle. Got any showing what a split-S is?

@pyronuke4768 Месяц назад

Split-S is rolling inverted and sharply pulling up so that you're diving towards the ground.

Месяц назад

How about the heaviest possible configuration for the F-16 versus the lightest possible configuration for the A-10 in a dogfight using just the machine gun?

@DidWeMakeIt Месяц назад

My two favorite planes!

@appledore Месяц назад

Hi GS, For one of your future videos, can you fight against an F-16 with an aircraft of your choice (minus F-22 😅)? Would be cool and interesting to see how an F-16 can be defeated in a dogfight with only guns. Might be difficult, based on lots and lots of videos in which you are dominating with the F-16. But, you got this. 🤞

@appledore Месяц назад

P.S.: Appreciate the explanation drawings. 👍

@Tony-zp8xn Месяц назад

That facial recognition sniping software in the YF-23 is rough...

@Krishna20086 Месяц назад

Amazing video but please do a video on tejas vs jf 17 thunder or rafale vs f 16

@radioactive9861 Месяц назад

I believe it was Kelly Johnson, or somebody else famous in the 'modern aircraft world'(ie, familiar with current aircraft tech) who said: "the YF23 is still flying today, in some shape or form"... That could mean a lot of things(if true), such as: the military took some of the YF23 tech and put it into the F35, or the B21, or maybe NGAD...mytwocents

@petersmith2112 Месяц назад

Looks fantastic although how accurate are the flight models with this type of plane (the yf-23) on DCS? Is it very clever people looking at the design of the plane and working out how they would actually fly? Whoever does it makes a fantastic job of it.