I bought my Logitech g303 4 years ago after watching your video and as my first gaming mouse to enter into the pc FPS world it was honestly the best mouse you ever could have recommended. I got 4 long years of great gaming out of it but now the mouse 1 switch is finally crapping out on me and I’m back watching all your videos and looking all over the internet for my next mouse. It’s a shame they never updated the g303 or continued making one in its diamond spirit because I’m yet to find a mouse that will fill his hole. I hope I can find something but thank you again for making these videos that help people like me have a great experience with our mice. Edit: I do think I will give the m42 a try because last time I listened to you on a mouse I fell in love with it and the fact you reviewed the m42 so highly and your gameplay reciprocated that I’m sure it is an awesome mouse.
Bought the Viper Mini 1 month ago . Man , it's so light and compact . I can palm/claw grip it easy . The 61 grams are just game changing . I literally managed to improve my aim with a lighter mouse . Best buy for 40$ .
yeah i had one too it was awesome until something in one of the buttons probably snapped off and the click was kinda creaky and shit and that did not feel good so i got a razer viper mini
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Love these mice and I have one of them (Model D) But these best mice lists are more like "Best for FPS Gamers", many non-FPS gamers actually prefer mice that are heavy or have many buttons
Optimum tech & Rocket jump ninja two of my other favourite youtubers! Will definitely sub to Brandon (I've not seen his channel before) Keep up the hard work guys, great video! It's great to hear the differing opinions!
Just by being in this video and saying the bump was changeable, sold the mouse to me. I went on the website to order the blue Xtrefy 42. I love to have the option because most of the time what I realized is that the mouse is either to high or too low. Having the choice of 2 seems great.
@@VezWay007 yeah I’ve heard about that but honestly it had a good life for 4 years and since it’s my only mouse I’ve ever had I’m also curious what a new mouse would be like. I think I will hold on to my g303 and in the future if I have extra money and want to bring it back to life I can maybe pay someone to replace the switches.
Razor left handed naga 2020 is the best mouse razor internals and a 12 key on the side for everything that I WILL HAVE TO REMAP IN GAME and it is ergonomic
Well I've been using the G502 Hero since it came out and now I'm going to buy the gpw superlight because why not I love the shape and the company so it works
I mean, if you got the money, go for it. It is a great mouse, one of the best Logitech offers. Do keep in mind though that, if you come from the g502, the mouse might actually feel _so_ light that it might be unusable at first, you'll really need to get used to it. Wel, and you have a lot less buttons, but I take it you can live with that ;)
I really like those roundup, great job as usual ... it's always nice to see what's new and what is still relevant through the years. Currently using the g305 that I got last year after watching tons of reviews while trying to decide on a mouse. If everything goes well I'll soon have an xtrfy m42 in retro color, hope that I will like it and the the color will be nicely paired with my durgod fusion in original color. That m42 will be my first lightweight mouse too so that will be a new thing for me.
Definitely agree with the G304, it came out 2 years ago but still trumps alot of the options out right now especially with its 40usd price tag, not only that the shape is my favorite of all mice I've tried because of it's sleek and small design!
Same. Been using the G305 with AAA lithium for about a year, and it's just freaking awesome. It's still not quite an ultralight, but the shape and feel is perfect for me.
So now that leaves you with only 3 upgrades available: Viper Ultimate, Model O wireless, and if you want to pay extra for a slightly worse mouse than those 2, the G pro wireless. But if you have small hands the 305 should serve you as well as any of those 3 hopefully.
@@houssamalucad753 I have pretty big hands and fingers, but don't have any problems with the G305. I don't palm grip, though. There's no need for a "upgrade path" when what you have is already pretty much perfect. All that's going to happen is a replacement once it wears out in a few years
g305 w/ AAA adapter for the foreseeable future. Fits my fingertip grip perfectly and don't have to worry about the battery giving out before the switches, cos I can just populate a new one.
Idk to get the g203 or the g402 my brain is exploding cus it's a gift I chose for my birthday and I will be using it for a while. I think I have small sized hands and the cost or more buttons on a mouse means nothing to me
@@rock4753 if you are looking for an ergonomic mouse that will last you for years, go for the g403. The g203 is cheaper, but its shape isn't as comfortable and it feels a bit more 'plasticy' than the g403. Still a great mouse ofc, but the g403 is just more comfortable.
I just woke up this morning and found out that my G305 started double-clicking I thought, "I need some suggestion about gaming mice" Then Dimitry's video popped out, the timing is unreal :)
The right click on my mouse gave out yesterday. This video seriously came out at the best time for me. Time to retire my old faithful G5 that I've had for well over a decade now. Kinds makes me sad since I've used this mouse ever since my BF2 days with my very first computer I built in 2005, I think I was using a 6800GT? Man. Time flies.
I'm using a Logitech G305 with a Varta Lithium AAA battery and an AAA to AA adapter. This is my second one, got it from the RMA of the first one. The first one developed double clicking issues on the left button in less than a year (roughly between the 10th and 11th month after purchase) and it wasn't even heavily used. The previous mouse I used was the Roccat Kone Pure Military Optical. That one lasted a few years and is also lightweight. Replaced it because it stopped remembering my DPI settings, but it later turned out that was a software issue. The SpeedLink Kudos before that lasted 5+ years. At some point it started double-clicking, I opened the switch and repaired. Still works (11 years!), but haven't really used it since I got the Kone Pure. Replaced because I wanted a lighter mouse with a better sensor.
I recommend everyone to try smaller mice! I always used bigger gaming mice like the air58, deathadder v2, model d, etc since I have 20.5cm hands with a palm claw hybrid grip. It was till razer put out the viper mini for 40 dollars that I said I can't let that deal pass up. I returned the Viper Ultimate as the shape felt extremely awkward to me but the Mini was smaller and had a bigger back bump so it felt way more comfortable. Now I feel like comfortable mice mess up your aim as your hands are a lot more relaxed. With the mini my hand is always at the ready. It's also $30 for black Friday so I highly recommend it as a great first mouse to get into the small mouse market!
Same. I’ve been binging mouse review vids for ideas. I’m looking for a good fingertip grip mouse with side buttons that are positioned in a way that my thumb doesn’t need to move much to press.
@@AnirudhRived Worst shape is probably that of Logitech G Pro Wireless. Also used on G203. Speak of good mice with terrible shape. It looks good, but your fingers on the side (especially the right one) will be position on a steep surface, making it painful to keep them from slipping all the way to the bottom edge. Why did they choose that design, I don't know. I got used to it, but I would never buy this shape again.
I’ve been using model o- without back shell and rgb, it’s 20 grams less than model wireless and I like the shape much more than model O since fingertipping is so easy. I’d wait for o-wireless unless o- is too small even for finger tip
You didn’t include mice with extra buttons, I love my Razer Bsilisk V2 with 11 programmable buttons. Before this I used the Corsair M65 Elite and the Razer is just better in every way. Feels faster, way more responsive, way more comfortable and much lighter. Has a feature I love which is adjustable tension for the scroll wheel, tighter for reliable weapon swapping and looser for scrolling Also has onboard storage unlike the Corsair and you can store 5 profiles on board The only downside is the Clutch paddle on the side (I use this to ADS) is a little short, I had to buy an aftermarket extension from a Reddit seller
I've gone through 3 502 Lightspeeds in 8 months, they suck, the switches run out of spec due to a design flaw on Logitech's side, it's a widespread issue, there's a sea of threads on Logitech's website about the switches doubleclicking and then dying within weeks. Warranty had me covered twice but by the time the third one dies I'll be out of it. :(
You arent. Im also not a fan of holes in anything I hold in my hands. Especialy cuz cleaning those is not fun.. Gungrips, Mice, tools...its annoying and reduces stability.
@@CarthagoMike I currently have the G403. it's a great, comfortable mouse with a reliable and satisfying click. However, the G403 has quality control issues. Some have double click problems, others have problems with the scroll wheel or middle click dying after just the first year. It really sucks that I've had to order a replacement because otherwise the mouse is excellent.
I currently use an older Razer Deathadder. I think it's the 2018 version. I can NOT say anything bad about the mouse, legitimately. I have a resting palm kind of posture, and the thing just fits perfectly. My hand has NEVER cramped on this mouse (I must say that I do landscaping and lawncare, so my hands are used a lot for work), it shows zero signs of wear and tear, the lighting is noticeable but not overdone (and still works perfectly), and the buttons and wheel still work buttery smooth. I have, on numerous occasions, been tempted to get a new mouse for a variety of reasons, but none of them have been able to woo me from my Deathadder. This thing feels like it will last forever. Which is an oddity as my setup, peripherals and PC components, are Corsair-centric. I want to get a Corsair mouse for that uniformity, but until my Deathadder dies, I will not being going full Corsair. Sorry Corsair.
You do realize there is only so much minerals to be mined to make electronics right? If people want to buy a new device every month, how much longer do you think the planet will endure before flushing humanity down the path of extinction with global scale natural disasters?
I've been using mice since my Amiga 1000, back in the 1980s. Some things I've come to depend on are not even mentioned in this list. All you have is a list of clones, each with five buttons plus a DPI changer. There is not ONE mouse on the list with extra, programmable buttons. WTaF? At the VERY least, a "double click" (or, as my teenager calls it, a "SPAM click") button is a MUST have for me. I keymap it as a "Reload" button, and it quickly became a necessity, once I got used to it being there. Next, the "ten gazillion click switches" are just so much BS. Notice that each of the guys reviewing mice is talking about the several different mice they've used recently. At that rate, with new models coming out all the time, no one will EVER wear out any of the switches, so why does it matter? HINT: It DOESN'T! I am on my computer for over eight hours per day, every day, and have NEVER worn out any mouse switches. I've worn out a lot of sensors, but not ONE switch. That's been true of the high end Logitech and Razer mice I've used and even true of the mice I've bought from flea markets (I'm looking at you, Sharkk) and online from China. Likewise, DPI is pure BS as well. I use the Windows "Mouse Properties" window to adjust the pointer speed of my mouse across the screen. That being done, the ONLY use for DPI is the precision of stopping a mouse directly on ONE CERTAIN POINT on the screen. Since my hand and arm are NOT digital, I can't stop my mouse on a certain spot with ANY chance of success. The closest I can get is maybe 1/64 of an inch, and only if I get REALLY lucky. That being true, anything over a 64 DPI mouse is a TOTAL waste. Why people are talking about thousands of DPI like it's important just shows their ignorance of how a mouse works. Digital electronic devices used by "analog" humans are ONLY as precise as the humans using them, PERIOD. It's the same as someone wanting a 4k display at a distance father away than their eyes can discern the difference between 4k and 1080p. If you have a 32 inch display (31.5" diagonal) like me, and are farther away from your screen than about 27 inches or so, your eyes physically can NOT discern individual pixels on a 1080p display, which renders the use of a 4k display totally moot. In fact, it can hurt your game performance. If the game renders extremely distant enemies as single pixels, at the same maximum render distance no matter what the resolution (as most games do), having that same pixel rendered at 1080p rather than 4k means it's FOUR TIMES LARGER and you are that much more likely to see that enemy sooner. I've known guys who played snipers in war games who were famous among the player base for "single pixel kills." It turns out they were turning their displays down to 720p and seeing the enemies as single moving pixels at the maximum render distance, before anyone else even knew they were there (and before the enemies saw them). Having a 1080p display rather than 4k means you can have lower display lag, faster response time, higher display settings and a higher refresh rate and framerate (by buying a better quality display and better computer components) for the same amount of money. That's another point of contention. Beyond a certain limit, a higher framerate is also useless, as the human eye can not discern the transitions between frames. If you're capped at 144 Hz/144 fps, you're really at the point of diminishing returns. Unless you're a professional esports gamer, you're more than likely at or beyond what detail your eyes and brain will be able to notice from cycle to cycle, especially in a game where every pixel on the screen is moving at once, as your character moves and turns. Spend your money wisely. Learn what's important and what isn't. Get more kills. "Get gud!" 😉
@@hughdahand5711 the doubleclick issue is, for many Logitech mice at least, a software issue. Try deinstalling and re-installing G-hub, it will most likely fix it.
@@CarthagoMike All my research kept turning that up but it never actually worked for anyone as far as I could find. The real problem is that Logitech and most other manufacturers run the switches out of spec causing premature wear.
yeah cause they are too specific and never as good for shooters. I had a naga, I sold it when I stopped playing MMOs cause it was kind of meh for everything else. Now that I am starting to play MMOs again (10 years later lol), I might need to get a second mouse for that ... eventually.
@@Humstuck The thing is that when ever "real gamers" come into the picture, it's only ever referring to pro FPS gamers. Completely excluding all other types of gamers out there. I love having the 12 mappable keys for everything else.
I got myself deathadder v2 mini. I didn't know that this mouse is THAT small. Even for my baby hands it's still getting lost in my grip lol. But after some hours of playing with it, adjusting my grip I actually dig it. It's light and small, it started to fit me very well for fast paced fps games. I still think I would prefer bigger mouse, but after getting used to it I'm glad i got it
I love the community behind the G502, like 1/10 of all the comments are people expressing their love of the G502. I completely agree, although a light(er) version would be nice
I have the G502 original. I bought it the day it came out. I have used it so much I've completely worn through the pinky pad and through the texture on the thumb pad!
I love the shape of the Logitech G703. I kinda don't get the trend of lighter and lighter, I even use the 10g weight on mine, and even after hours, it's not fatiguing at all. Another trend I don't get is mouse with holes..but maybe I'm just getting old :D
I changed to a mm710 over the summer and absolutely love the shape and lightweight design. Why did you change to the 720 Dimitri? Was it a better shape for you? I'm not an RGB fan, so the 720 is a bit of a tougher sell for me. Thanks
glad that Aerox 3 wireless made to this video. It is my favorite mouse to this date and out my GPW and Viper Ultimate to my shelf. Best wireless and just mouse for Claw FPS gaming up to date
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I got the g203 from Best Buy for only $15 and I’m really happy to see how highly rated it is.
The glorious model O quite possibly might be the best mouse I have ever used, seen, or even know existed. I’ve had it for 3 years every day gaming and still works flawlessly and sensitive. Not to mention the insanely light weight. 11/10 and i’m a strict reviewer.
@@vishnuarun4738 the mouse is very good for the €37 I bought it for. 61 grams only does make you feel like you have nothing in your hand. The mouse is good for claw and fingertip grip. It's not particularly designed for palm-grip. The cable is really nice, super soft material so it glides nice. Same for the mouse. Super soft gliders, so you can give the mouse a little push and it glides away. Only downside for me is the software packet of 400mb(!) for only controller 2 rgb's. Nice software, but it is a little large
Right now my collection consists of a Logitech G Pro Wireless, Logitech G305, Microsoft Pro Intellimouse, Razer Viper Ultimate and a Razer Mamba Wireless. I'm always on the hunt for a great gaming mouse that would give me almost everything I could want. Right now the Logitech mice are on their way out since both of them have given me the double click issues and their replacements may not have addressed this by using the better 20M Omrons or Japanese made Omrons. The Pro Intellimouse is a backup mouse and a nice throwback to one of the original gaming mice I had back in 2004. The Razer Mamba Wireless had a better in hand feel than the Deathadder and was bought before the Razer Viper Ultimate (which I bought because of the optical switches that may end up being more reliable than the usual Omrons).
I'm also on that mm720 train! I totally fell in love with it, but I do wish they would come out with a more premium version, and I would LOVE for the thumb buttons to move backward about a quarter inch for easier access. After a week or so, mouse 2 has started squeaking. Cooler Master if you're reading, do this just for me, pls. I'll never buy another mouse, promise!
g305 for fps, g604 for everything else and BT devices like tv/tablet etc. The 604 is usually 60-70$. For a hero sensor with essentially unlimited batterylife(in bt) with batteries on hand of course. A lot of these lighter options have been coming out which is nice to see, since the 604 is constantly on sale and the addition of GHUB for its potential it became my new daily. Since then i havent seen many competitors to the mx masters or g602 or 604 or g700/s. Im always in search of a more ideal daily...IMO gaming mice wise there are far many more GREAT options for user to user, but a daily mouse choice is like mx master or g604.
I got my Dream Mouse last Christmas! And it is Logitech G502 Lightspeed! It is heavy mouse, but I am not competitive player, and my mouse MUST BE wireless and has at least 5 additional buttons! 😁
I had a Logitech G Pro Wireless and swapped to the Pwnage Ultra Custom Ergo Wireless. It was way more comfortable as a right-handed user and the mouse buttons/body are easily swappable to different colors. It's a shame other mice companies have not tapped into how much people want customizable colors.
my best FPS mouse is the model O but I keep going back to the razer viper mini I see am not the only one who does that lol and for RPG I use the ROCCAT NYTH most versatile mouse ever made its good at everything and no wear and tear after all these years of use and the Philips twin eye laser is really good not perfect but it always does the job really well. Well done ROCCAT. awesome video BTW love the channel.
Great video, really. Nice to see collabs with other ppl, especially RJN. But it seems like everyone forgets about left handed people. I say everyone, I mean companies that produce mice. I really don't think it would hurt their profits if they just produced left handed versions of even just some of their top mice(I'm dead serious on this one.). Yeah, they have ambidextrous mice, but they put side buttons on the left side of them almost defeating the purpose. Short version: Make left-handed top-tier mice! People will buy them!
