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Why is EVERYONE Buying This Gaming Mouse? - Logitech G502 HERO 

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What's so good about the G502 Hero that it has almost thirty thousand ratings on Amazon with a 4.7 star rating? Let's take a look in the latest edition of Why Is Everyone Buying THIS?!
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:13 The Beginning
3:10 A Hero Is Born
5:13 Complaints
6:40 The Double Click
7:41 The Price
9:15 Alternatives
10:23 Conclusion
11:59 Outro

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@theuseraccountname
@theuseraccountname 2 года назад
I own a G502, and I like how easy it is to scroll on "free scroll" mode. The only problem I have with it is lately it tends to "double-scroll" until I cycle the DPI back to what I have it on somewhat often, and there's no driver updates, so it's not that.
@vlycop7404
@vlycop7404 2 года назад
some here with the double scroll from time to time... But i really hate that mouse for the simple fact that i wanted the none rgb one, and 2 day before i had the money to buy it they discontinued it, and forced a 30$ price for a rgb led ... was so mad
@mh87351
@mh87351 2 года назад
Once you get used to smooth scroll you don't want to go back is my experience.
@ommsterlitz1805
@ommsterlitz1805 2 года назад
Damn i owned this mouse in 2016 to 2019 i always hated it
@ZuriPOL
@ZuriPOL 2 года назад
because it requires the mouse to be heavier than usual. But, razer's basilisk lineup also have this feature
@TheSkepticSkwerl
@TheSkepticSkwerl 2 года назад
Probably dirty.
@BlueJayYT
@BlueJayYT 2 года назад
I used this mouse for a while until I unfortunately experienced those mentioned switch problems, however I can vouch for Logitech's customer support as they sent me a free replacement in no time!
@ario984
@ario984 2 года назад
@@ibusuri1826 shut up
@hoodygold8900
@hoodygold8900 2 года назад
I am using it right now and I’m yet to experience the issues
@dcumbo
@dcumbo 2 года назад
Yeah but i had the replacement do the same (g pro). I gave up on logitech tbh :/
@YannickBo
@YannickBo 2 года назад
I don't have problems with the switches but sometimes the scroll wheel scrolls in between the bumps so I have to scroll up and down a bit to fix it
@mrmoosetachio
@mrmoosetachio 2 года назад
I've used 3 in the past decade. Used the first 2 for 3-4 years each until the double click popped up. But considering the amount of use each went through I was very satisfied and decided to get another
@tsubasawolfy
@tsubasawolfy Год назад
I have two of G502, and both serve well. The first one with wire that I bought in 2015, and the second one w/o wire bought in 2019. I LOVE the free-spinning mechanism which help A LOT, either in reading PDF or codes.
@BooglePoots
@BooglePoots Год назад
That's ironic because I literally did the same thing lol. I loved the wired so I bought the wireless. I just upgraded my keyboard too, from the Logitech G Pro to the Logitech G915 but I'm still not sure how I feel about the low-profile keys at this point. I really loved the Pro keyboard but having wires is just too messy for me since I'm working with a laptop on a lap desk on my bed (no room for a desk). I just watched a video Linus did on the keyboard but he seemed to like the keys like that so maybe it's just me. It just feels a lot like laptop chicklets compared to regular mechanical keyboards
@Ithacska
@Ithacska Год назад
I have 2 aswell ^^'
@themindboggler8055
@themindboggler8055 Год назад
@@BooglePoots i have a g815 (wired version of the g915) and i love it. I did however come from using laptops for 5 odd years so i was used to the small key travel but i prefer it. I hope the 915 treats you well
@phyde1885
@phyde1885 Год назад
@@BooglePoots I have the wired 502 & G910,LOVE them BOTH !! Really when it's Dark too ! DAM I LUV that RGB ! But that's the Gravy,they just work great,and that's what counts. I have in-between medium & Large hands,so big mice are TOO much reach for me. Even though this mouse has long Key travels,it still works in both grip modes for me. But i don't claw it much. I tried ALL the Mice i could get my Hands on in Best Buy! YES,ALL ! There were only 2 mice that i felt comfortable in my hand with,the G502 & the Basilisk V2 . They were both on sale,I bought them BOTH ! I used them both,and i did like the V2 also. I use the G502 for now & set the V2 beside it. And yes,Windows will use 2 mice,but you can't do them at the same time.But since several Win updates it just didn't see the 2nd,so i just let it sleep. Probably have to reset the USB,just lazy. I also have the G933 Headphones,i love them too !!😎
@dovydas4036
@dovydas4036 Год назад
Mine is double clicking
@ROVictiM
@ROVictiM Год назад
I looked through hundreds of listings before buying this one and after a couple years with it, I find it obvious why that model got so popular, even with competition on the specs. When you looked at most models you immediately started to find crazy patterns. The ones that are solely focused on flashiness and lights but fails easily or has poor sensor registering, the ones skimped on quality for the sake of specs on paper, but you regret it the moment you unpack and connect it, the minimalistic ones to the point you really wouldn't call it gaming mouse any more, and the miniatures designed for hobbit hands or people that move the mouse entirely with their fingertips without palm contact.
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 года назад
Original G502 owner here, I don't want it to ever die. You can even buy after market skids for when they wear out. 👌
@jedivader20
@jedivader20 2 года назад
I bought new skids for my OG G502, still going strong!
@florence9231
@florence9231 2 года назад
Love my original. Gone through several sets of skids. Only problem with mine is the finger pads are dissolving - Kind of vouches for its reliability though as functionally it is still perfect.
@eXoguti094
@eXoguti094 2 года назад
The G604's buttons are much better placed for productivity, and I'd say even gaming. That one really doesn't get any attention, it's the only mouse I ever want.
@GandolphTheGreyBeard
@GandolphTheGreyBeard 2 года назад
Same. I've had mine for 6(?) years now and have zero desire to change to anything different. I have mine set up to go edge-to-edge on my 32" 1440p monitor in 3" of lateral movement and it is absolutely perfect for both my gaming and business use.
@DaBoomDude
@DaBoomDude 2 года назад
My proteus core still going strong since the day i bought it from EB Games.(its the model with the good switches) It works beautifully with Linux (Piper for DPI/RGB and its compatible with OpenRGB) and I'm gonna run it till it dies... then maybe fix it and keep running it.
@ASilverNMeep886
@ASilverNMeep886 2 года назад
Honestly, I think people underestimate how impactful the free-spinning (or Hyper-scrolling) mouse wheel is for experience as you are scrolling through spreadsheets, code, or documents. You can scroll slowly like a touch pad and then go fast as heck and then slow back down with minute control. Sure you could probably use the scroll bar or keyboard shortcuts, but it's right there in your hand. Cannot go back to another mouse without it. Bought my G502 from Best Buy and I will use it until it dies and probably buy another one.
@shadowsbane171091
@shadowsbane171091 2 года назад
Yeah, I bought it as an Gaming mouse, ended up using it as a productivity mouse, it’s quite good.
@dalzy25
@dalzy25 2 года назад
I dunno, middle mouse button to scroll works pretty well for this function.
@noba4696
@noba4696 2 года назад
Definitely, thats why I really don't regard Linus' "alternatives" as alternatives. They just aren't. Mouse doesn't have free-spinning wheel? NEXT!
@__-fm5qv
@__-fm5qv 2 года назад
Same, I use the free-scroll feature of my G903 so much its frustrating to use any other mouse at this point, makes quickly flicking through documents and spreasheets so much easier.
@beck4715
@beck4715 2 года назад
True. I have a G305 myself and I love it to bits, but the free spinning scroll wheel still makes me a little jealous of my friends who got G502s. The mouse itself would be a bit much for me but I still think about it any time I try to scroll through a document, spreadsheet, web page, code, and anything else similar haha
@darthollpheist1156
@darthollpheist1156 Год назад
I use the G600 for most things. I was using the USmartTech Venus for awhile. It's actually a good mouse. But I like having the extra buttons. I use them instead of buttons on my keyboard. So, I can basically keep my fingers on WASD and not have to worry about anything else. The side buttons are really easy to learn thanks to the "home row" bumps they have on the 13 and 16.
@dudeawsomeness1
@dudeawsomeness1 8 месяцев назад
Bought the G502 Proteus Spectrum in 2016. Still going strong--good stuff. The scroll wheel is not as stiff as it was (not that I care much one way or the other) and I love the free-spin feature plus the extra buttons for gaming (knife, grenades, and such)
@BensWatchClub
@BensWatchClub 2 года назад
Hi Linus and team. Great video. However, be careful about showing Amazon pages (especially reviews) on-screen. I was almost banned by the Amazon affiliate program for using exactly those things in videos on my channel. It apparently breaches their terms of service. Wouldn't want you guys to get chucked out. Cheers for the content, Ben.
@ario984
@ario984 2 года назад
Cool
@aaroncobeng
@aaroncobeng 2 года назад
Love your videos man specially the casio sapphire which I cant find on sale
@sokolaad1238
@sokolaad1238 2 года назад
@@ibusuri1826 damn that's crazy bro
@Mandurath
@Mandurath 2 года назад
speaking of double click :)
@PeterPerez.
@PeterPerez. 2 года назад
@@ibusuri1826 smooth like butter like a criminal undercover 🗿🗿🗿🗿
@ChrisThomasBone
@ChrisThomasBone 2 года назад
I use it in music production. There's so many Ctrl-click/Alt-click/Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Windows-click shortcuts in Pro Tools, having the modifier keys mapped to the thumb buttons is such a workflow boost. I also like the weights, not because it's heavier though, but because placing weights in the front shifts the center of gravity to actually make it feel lighter, at least for my grip. On top of that, I've had it for nearly 5 years now and I can't tell a difference from when it was new. Those factors, plus the ergonomic layout, has me a very happy customer. When/if this wears out, I'm getting another one.
@LV_223
@LV_223 2 года назад
My only complaint is the overall durability of it. I've had 3 since 2019, all due to the Mouse 2 switch dying on me. Regardless, I still don't think I'll ever have another mouse. My hand size is perfect for it, I actually love the heavier weight, and the DPI switch being right next to Mouse 1 is extremely convenient for me. Since I game at a low sens, but work and browse at a higher sens, switching between them is just super fast and fluid. I actually just moved onto the G502 Lightspeed and I don't think I will ever get another mouse again.
@lobsangwhite
@lobsangwhite 2 года назад
I used to use the weights to do the same until I switch to the wireless so the lack of cable change the center of gravity.
@kornkernel2232
@kornkernel2232 2 года назад
@@lobsangwhite How is the wireless version? Is there any slight difference or improvements other than being wireless? I also suffered from this super sensitive tilt wheel in G502 Hero wired, I wonder if they fixed that on wireless version.
@thelespauldude3283
@thelespauldude3283 2 года назад
Same, Pro Tools is just a pain in the A when it comes to shortcuts
@lobsangwhite
@lobsangwhite 2 года назад
@@kornkernel2232 well, I jump from proteus to wireless so to me it was a big difference, but the last 502 wired and the wireless one seems to be the same mouse tbh. EDIT: Battery and portability is a huge advantage, I can go anywhere with my mouse and keep my shortcuts with me (only one profile on memory) and battery life is about 70H even when I akeep my RGB on all the time (only logo)
@sgt.sharky9832
@sgt.sharky9832 Год назад
For me I fell in love with the button layout and the amount. It was the first mouse where I could program all the numbers on it for toolbelts in games, which allowed me to select quickly even in shooter games while on the move. The double clicking issue early on took a while to happen, I think the shortest time for me was 6 months, but I was gaming 8-12 hours a day. I remember I tried to give an off brand who's design was similar a chance and something else failed on that one I don't remember so I went back to the G502. The only major complaint I have ever had is I have pretty good sized hands and gaming with this thing for 8 hours makes my hand feel cramped. Its very narrow.
@HowlingMoai
@HowlingMoai Год назад
I’d recommend buying new hands
@KindOldRaven
@KindOldRaven Год назад
Gaming with almost anything for 8 hours will cramp up your hands. You're not built to do that ;p Little talked about issue, but many, many pros struggle with carpal tunnel, inflammation or cartilege issues due to too little variation in their movements.
@sgt.sharky9832
@sgt.sharky9832 Год назад
@@KindOldRaven Yes I'm sure it would but my complaint has nothing to do with that. I noticed the difference right off the bat when using this mouse. I got my first G502 during Black Ops II gaming, playing with zombies. The mouse puts my ring finger and thumb too close together and forces my hand to cup. Something in that position was doing it.
@dsandoval9396
@dsandoval9396 5 месяцев назад
The previous iteration of the app that I used with my Proteus was perfect, then they sacrificed user friendly functionality for "looks" in the new G-Hub app (I use with my Lightspeed) and it's a HUGE pain in the butt. It doesn't switch profiles when it should, so I have to set it to "persistent" before starting a game, I have to go into settings with a bunch of relegated settings like the red-headed stepchildren kept out of sight, but anything else you can lock for inside the operation menu with the rest of the settings as there's a 🔒 icon in those menus you can click (when "persistent" is off) but there's a 🔒 icon on the window that has the app profile (in the SAME page) but you CAN'T click it. The app was SUPER easy to read and understand in the old app as on startup everything was basically on the front page. Everything was, and it was easy to understand and operate. The G-Hub app you have to change menus/windows constantly when setting up new profiles. The mouse image (to see the key binds) you have to switch between side and top when the previous app had the image at an angle so you could easily see all key binds. Functions that did NOT need to be implemented, but they wanted it to look "bare and clean".😒 The previous app was easy to understand, easy to use, wasn't complicated, and it was neat and clean (as in not cluttered with options and overwhelming with functions). But it seems they wanted the new G-Hub to "look great" first and everything else is second. Now you have a useless "front page" of sorts that serves no purpose other than to have a cover letter presentation. Literally the few bits of information on the "front page" is literally presented to you on 2 or 3 other pages. Functions that you'd think would be grouped together but are separated by exiting entire windows/menus, just to have to go back to a setting the menu/window before to adjust when setting up a profile for the first time for the app/game. It's like they kept information presented at an absolute minimum, even presenting a couple of them in OTHER menus/windows, just to present the multiple menus/windows as minimalistic as possible as a "clean looking app" when all they've done is make it an app you have to switch back and forth and then find out sometimes it's just SHOWING you the info but you can't actually change that setting unless you go to another menu/window. Whatever. I HATE G-Hub with a raging hellfire passion only the heat from the center of a white dwarf can compare. So yeah.
@KoeSeer
@KoeSeer Месяц назад
i bought 502 as upgrade from 402, and the layout is far nicer than 402. the G7 and G9 buttons are comfortable to hold for long as part of "repeat click" macro (so you don't wear mouse 1 faster) and the free scrolling button really helps when the game contains long ass inventory or menu.
@greatbriton8425
@greatbriton8425 10 месяцев назад
What a great video. Intelligent, funny, informative, well paced, clear and you left the sponsorship message for last. I subbed just because of that.
@mctown972
@mctown972 2 года назад
This mouse is the definition of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" 🤷‍♂️ it feels great in the hand and it isn't that heavy as some people like to complain about it
@Pendarr
@Pendarr 2 года назад
For me that mouse has been the MS Intellimouse. I'm using the more recent "Pro" revision and it's my favorite simple mouse.
@sword_racer185
@sword_racer185 2 года назад
@@Pendarr I recently upgraded from the g502 hero to the corsair scimitar because I play lots of mmo's and it fits my hand a lot better
@imnota
@imnota 2 года назад
Heavy is good tho.
@1996Horst
@1996Horst 2 года назад
well it certainly needs some fixing. The skates/feet are really substandart at that price range and you get far better feel from aftermarket ones, even cheap ones. Grinding away the checkered designe along one edge also improves the glide, as the design is at the same hight as the feet and gets stuck on your mousepad.
@qewmot
@qewmot 2 года назад
it was too heavy for me after 6 years with it, hurt my shoulder too much and had to go ultralight mouse
@DiniduPerera
@DiniduPerera 2 года назад
I know most mice with a generous amount of macro buttons are usually labeled “MMO” or “gaming” but I can’t tell you how awesome those things are from a professional productivity standpoint. I spend a lot of time in Outlook at work and have multiple quick actions programmed to the macro g-keys on my G604. At home, they’re great for quickly swapping between tools in Photoshop, Lightroom, etc.
@curtishickerson2646
@curtishickerson2646 2 года назад
100 agreed. I used to use Excel a lot for a job I had for a large tech company. Using all of those buttons for various macros and functions and having multiple profiles to use within various different spreadsheets blew my productivity through the roof when I was using a Corsair Scimitar Pro.
@enderan647
@enderan647 2 года назад
agree. those buttons are great for shortcut and hotkeys. I have so many configuration for almost every software that I use.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 2 года назад
I do think gaming mice are just better for any productivity and graphics relayed work, even without extra buttons, though those help as well. You can feel the faster response and less angle snapping, better hand eye coordination. Though you don't care that much about maximum tracking speed which is another feature. Also my left hand has a few damaged fingers so having extra buttons on my right hand helps taking the load off it. But I do wish they made much, much smaller variants, they're kind of gargantuan for me.
@Tappettava
@Tappettava 2 года назад
I use my old G502 with a loose scroll wheel at work. Its perfect since I get a much bigger mouse than what they provide me and I got copy/paste, enter and deletes keys bound on it.
@follar00
@follar00 2 года назад
I use a 602 for the same reasons.
@koronka1082
@koronka1082 Год назад
I also love the weight custmization on my roccat. I just like heavier mouses, they are more presize combined with lower DPI
@TheZacharySutliff
@TheZacharySutliff Год назад
Even tho my buttons give me intermittent problems (not the frequently used keys however) I still love this mouse. Does everything I want it to do and more. Seems almost like the buttons work best when regularly used. Same with the g910 keyboard.
@benjamincalaway
@benjamincalaway Год назад
Was having the double click and drag issue on mine. Was able to repair it with just a screwdriver and some tweezers in about 10 mins. The little clip that holds the switch plate in place was bent down a little bit. Thats after 4 years of use though.
@NickyNiclas
@NickyNiclas 2 года назад
Logitech has the best customer support I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with. They send out replacements with expedited shipping. It's so refreshing in a world where companies with shockingly terrible customer support like Razer exists.
@ChrisHendrickson
@ChrisHendrickson 2 года назад
They've replaced several trackballs and slip mats off the bottom of them for me over the years. Unparalleled customer support from them. I just wish they'd give us 'exotic' input device users a bit more love.
@thetranya3589
@thetranya3589 2 года назад
The customer support is excellent. Unfortunately, you're likely going to need it.
@LemonRush7777
@LemonRush7777 2 года назад
Logitech is my favorite company by far, only had great experiences and their prices are fair. Razer, on the other hand... overpriced garbage that always breaks down fast right agter the warranty died. Tailor made to fail and terrible support, never again.
@intdawg
@intdawg 2 года назад
Logitech, Corsair, and EVGA have always had INCREDIBLE customer support for me. I had a Logitech KB that was having an issue with double presses, and they said it had recently been discontinued, so they told me to pick a replacement from their store that was a similar price. Wound up giving me a new keyboard that was more expensive, and told me to just keep the old one. With Corsair and EVGA, I once had to RMA some ram and a gpu, respectively. Both of them sent me replacements with a pre-paid label to send my old stuff back. I buy those brands as much as possible for that reason. Even if it costs more sometimes.
@NickyNiclas
@NickyNiclas 2 года назад
@@thetranya3589 Yes, Logitech has had failing microswitches just like *every other mouse brand.*
@ZebronZee
@ZebronZee 2 года назад
I have been using G502 Proteus Core since late 2014. Everyday I wait for it to show any faults so that I can finally replace it, but this thing is so well made that even in 2022 my G502 is still going strong. Looks like the Logitech reliability is helping me save money since my older mouse was a Razer Mamba 2012 which started showing severe tracking and clicking issues within the first year and just died in the following months.
@Feuerspalter
@Feuerspalter 2 года назад
With me it’s the same I had the mamba tournament edition but after a sensor error I send it back and got me the g502. Since I have it all my friends Switches there mouses for a few times (spending lots of money) and ending up with the g502 ever since after they tried my mouse On a lan.
@techgoggles
@techgoggles 2 года назад
U have to use the mouse for it to go bad
@goodrhythms5320
@goodrhythms5320 2 года назад
I (ab)used my G502 for about 6 Years now. A year ago i bought the 502 SE as a replacement just in case anything starts failing on my current one. The only thing failing by now is the rubber coating and the led starts to dim a bit, but on the functional side everything is fine. (The mouse is in heavy use btw. atleast 8 hours for work, and another 2-3 hours for gaming daily) Maybe it is the best selling mouse because it's reliable, feature-rich and priced reasonably. And yeah, im also one of the guys that absolutely love the weight of the mouse (fully packed with all the weights), for me it feels like i can move the mouse more precisely.
@jojoenathan
@jojoenathan 2 года назад
yeah man razer n steel series really had a shit qc, they broke like after 1 year. planned obsolesence. i have 402 from 2015 and no problem till now
@takysoft
@takysoft 2 года назад
Same 2014 G502 Proteus Core here. I haven't bought a mouse in the last 8 years.... Yes... I have not paid any money to Logitech, since 2014(for a mouse at least). But I can recommend them. And WHEN I buy a new mouse, it'll be a Logitech. No question about that.
@ihaveadhdgaming
@ihaveadhdgaming Год назад
Starting off in SC2 this mouse was suggested to me by someone in casual tournaments. Gotta tell ya, I've got three of them, it's been a life changer... Gota naga, even the expensive RAT series.. I love clocking the mouse click on and off and the dpi buttons...
@ravenrodriguez7818
@ravenrodriguez7818 7 месяцев назад
Had a 502. Everything is perfect about that mouse! What I love most about it is the adjustable weight. I love the balance of actually feeling the weight of a mouse (it give me more accuracy, develops muscle memory as well)
@MatzWerk
@MatzWerk 2 года назад
I bought this mouse mainly because of the scroll wheel. Honestly, why is this not a thing at other brands? For programming or Excel work this scroll wheel is absolutely king.
@w0xicKid
@w0xicKid 2 года назад
Because Logitech has a patent on it
@aminelswefy1808
@aminelswefy1808 2 года назад
@@w0xicKid seriously? or is that just a guess?
@owenbout
@owenbout 2 года назад
The metallic scroll wheel is sweet. Nice to touch something cool to the touch during those sweaty sessions :)
@alexnguyen4081
@alexnguyen4081 2 года назад
@@aminelswefy1808 it’s a fact. They had it since forever.
@wiz3404
@wiz3404 2 года назад
the Razer Basilisk v3 has infinite scroll as well
@mattzxo
@mattzxo 2 года назад
I’ve had the mouse for around 4 or 3 years, and have literally had zero issues so far, and I use it almost every day now. I’ve heard of all those issues yet never experienced so I guess I just got lucky.
@TheBinklemNetwork
@TheBinklemNetwork 2 года назад
I just started having some issues, but a cleaning really helped. Didn't need to use any chemicals, just a fresh tooth brush. Bought mine in 2016ish, same times as my girlfriend who plays just as often without issues
@rafaelmarcello2750
@rafaelmarcello2750 2 года назад
is it? cus im starting to think this mouse is great and fit to my huge hand,and im done with shit mouse,always pissing me of about the sensor
@mattzxo
@mattzxo 2 года назад
@@rafaelmarcello2750 definitely worth it, if you like the shape and heavy mice than it’s good for you, I really like it for the shape and weight customisation. I’ve had zero issues so far 🤷‍♂️
@overcommon7662
@overcommon7662 2 года назад
Ive had mine for 3 years and I haven’t experienced any issues. I’ve also put 3 weights in it because lift mice make me feel less accurate
@ShadowKnight-ur9ql
@ShadowKnight-ur9ql 2 года назад
I’ve had mine for 4 years and I have had no issues
@Subtleknife12367
@Subtleknife12367 Год назад
I've always liked the feel. Had the g500 before and it served for many years. Seemed like a no brainer to go with the g502. I've been really happy with it and used it for a long while now.
@danxzHD
@danxzHD Год назад
Also using the g500 for 10years but it’s time for a new one now. Not sure if i go for the g502 or the g305..
@user-nw5mp7mi4o
@user-nw5mp7mi4o 7 месяцев назад
Great video been using a 305 now and have a 502 coming tomorrow from Amazon looking forward to the extra bind buttons for first person shooters to take the work load off my azeron compact key pad
@Rocoy
@Rocoy 2 года назад
This video is great timing to share my experience, this literally happened last week: I have the G502 Lightspeed (Wireless version of the G502 HERO). After two years of heavy use, I started to experience problems with the right-click not staying clicked. (Very frustrating when playing FPS games) . After an hour of chat support and 2 days of waiting for approbation. I got a replacement free of charge in under a week. For sure I can say that the support is great and the warranty is awesome. Yes, maybe the mouse is a bit pricey (I'm from Mexico) but it's totally worth it.
@namAehT
@namAehT 2 года назад
Yup, had a G930 headset for a long time and Logitech replaced it _twice_ for free. First time was a known failure on some early units, second time was due to the charging port breaking from use. I don't care if the product only lasts two years when the customer service is that good. My third set has been going strong for like 6 years, gave it to my sister when I got my M1000X-M3.
@aaronfuentes5919
@aaronfuentes5919 2 года назад
Utech MMO mouse for just over thirty bucks. Quick StarCraft control groups now, lol. & The RGB is a nice plus, especially to see all the buttons in the dark.
@tylerstephens9456
@tylerstephens9456 2 года назад
@@aaronfuentes5919 haha i got one of those Utech Smart Venus mice about 6-7 years ago and its still my mouse of choice for RPG games and is still going strong
@genxgamerdad141
@genxgamerdad141 2 года назад
You can also replace the switches with better ones. What I ended up doing.
@Rocoy
@Rocoy 2 года назад
@@genxgamerdad141 Probably will do that with the defective one.
@themalcore_
@themalcore_ 2 года назад
I loved my G502SE. I bought it because it has a good amount of thumb buttons and the adjustable weights are great. The two-mode scroll wheel is really convenient and the on-the-fly adjustable DPI can come in handy. It really has just about every feature you can find in a gaming mouse.
@0638
@0638 2 года назад
Can u buy me playstation 6
@Entr0py404
@Entr0py404 2 года назад
I had a choice between a Logitech g500 series mouse or a death adder from razor and I regrettably chose the death adder now even with a firmware update it causes my computer to have a USB issue on boot causing my computer not to start so I have to leave it unplugged when starting my computer
@komi1834
@komi1834 2 года назад
it doesn't have LoD distance setting because of Hero sensor it uses + it's low LoD out of factory so it have trouble tracking on some mousepads, Logitech made it like that on purpose so they would sell more mousepads, just a shitty move from logitech, other than that everything else is good enough, when clicks fail you can just get someone to fix it for you for $10 and ifyou put better switches it won't happen again, so it's a 1 time fix
@mohawk4759
@mohawk4759 2 года назад
@@komi1834 low lod is great
@shhhvcnear
@shhhvcnear Год назад
I had a logitech gaming mouse, before your stated first date of 2005. So I looked up a list of their products on wikipedia, the same you guys used I think, it wasn't on there. The name returned to me, the MX510 - a gaming mouse that appears to have been released in 2004 and my first gaming mouse. To this day none of the other mice I've used, and I used plenty, have significantly improved on that one. I'd be happy using it today if it didn't die on me after 10 years (and a roommate who smashed it on the desk when he died in a game...)
@ImmacHn
@ImmacHn Год назад
I love this mouse, I had the non-hero version, loved it for years, got the hero version recently and it feels like home.
@DigitalEternal
@DigitalEternal 2 года назад
I've had a g502 for at least 5 years, probably longer. It's been great, it's taken many a fall off my keyboard tray and never missed a beat. Definitely wasn't $50 back then though.
@DeagleGamesTV
@DeagleGamesTV 2 года назад
same it replaced a razer mamba and i never looked back.
@Hunter4042012
@Hunter4042012 2 года назад
Had mine for coming up 8 years.
@Zer0ducksgiven
@Zer0ducksgiven 2 года назад
Had my G502 since 2015, has survived over 1000 hours of overwatch, over 700 of CS GO and hundreds in other games. I love the shape, love the feel and it still works just as well as it did when I bought it 7 years ago. I have owned 3 razer mice since in an attempt to upgrade from the G502 and all failed within 6 months. I always go back to the old G502.
@rspy24
@rspy24 2 года назад
Haha I have mine since 2015 too, and playing a looot of ow and some mmo. Still works like a charm! When it dies I will buy another g502. Easy as that. Probably the k/da version
@bastianviery
@bastianviery 2 года назад
I replace my G502 from 2015 with Razer Basilisk. The shape and weight is good enough for replacement for me, but I really miss the scroll feature in G502.
@Sonkalino
@Sonkalino 2 года назад
I still use my 2015 proteus core. Still works like new, it just needs a new external shell because it's worn, and the rubber around the thumb area is all cracked, but i'll give it a new aftermarket replacement and i hope it will hold out for a while.
@emanueleapuzzo
@emanueleapuzzo 2 года назад
exatly the same here, razer fail constantly, it's pure trash
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 2 года назад
How would it go being dropped from sofa height to the floor every now and then?
@ArathirCz
@ArathirCz Год назад
I have the wireless G502 Lightspeed with Logitech Powerplay mouse pad for wireless charging (it also serves as the receiver for the wireless mouse) and I am super happy with it. It also played a role when I was picking a new headphones & mic. I ended up with the Logitech Pro X as the reviews were good for it and I can use the same G Hub software for Mouse, Headphones & the charging mouse pad.
@ickmonster73
@ickmonster73 Год назад
I bought this when it came out. I love the free spinning scroll wheel, it has just enough extra buttons in useful places. Programmable profiles, adjustable weights. The only complaint I would have is that it doesn't work well without a mousepad.
@innovativeadvertising6463
@innovativeadvertising6463 10 месяцев назад
Hey {{3}}! As a fellow Logitech G502 HERO owner, I totally see why everyone is raving about it. The extra buttons, programmable profiles, and adjustable weights really enhance the gaming experience. Have you considered upgrading your cleaning routine? The HOTO Compressed Air Capsule is a fantastic tool that combines vacuuming and blowing capabilities, perfect for keeping your desktop spotless. It's compact, powerful, and reasonably priced compared to other brands. Definitely worth checking out!
@trivium7357
@trivium7357 2 года назад
I'm on my third version of G502 (had a Proteus Core for a couple of years, then got a Proteus Spectrum, now sitting on Hero). It just ticks all my boxes for a mouse. I've got a perfect grip, with all the weights inside it's a perfect weight for me, the design, everything. Never have I encountered a piece of tech that I kept re-buying so to speak.
@RO_Tim
@RO_Tim 2 года назад
Exactly the same story for me.
@iiipercenterpatriot4266
@iiipercenterpatriot4266 2 года назад
I love my hero
@just_morby
@just_morby 2 года назад
Logitech G502 Hero is simply the best mouse I've ever laid my hands on. Using it feels like it was custom made just for me. I was playing around with the weight amount/distribution to find the perfect center of mass and it's so good I don't think I'll buy any other mouse ever.
@bradchailland6105
@bradchailland6105 2 года назад
Started with the hero a few years ago, and moved to the light speed wireless 502 about a year ago. Thinking of buying another on sale just to have for when mine eventually needs replaced.
@seandipaul8257
@seandipaul8257 2 года назад
I'm still on my first proteus core. During 2016-2020 I was a rager and tried to kill this mouse. It's more durable than a friggin volvo. Refuses to die.
@staysly1112
@staysly1112 2 года назад
I've had my g502 for about 5 years now and only recently have the switches begun to fail. It's been super reliable and definitely worth the money spent. I can easily justify buying replacements based of of my particular longevity with the mouse.
@miles11we
@miles11we 2 года назад
I'm not sure what happened to my first one that I had about 4 or 5 years, just stopped working but I liked it enough to just replace it rather than try something else.
@kody7041
@kody7041 2 года назад
i bought a 502 the switches failed so i bought the lightspeed but i had it 5 years so i think i got my money back
@Murddamane
@Murddamane 2 года назад
went through 3 of them in one year switched to a glorious mouse and haven't had a problem since.
@kody7041
@kody7041 2 года назад
@@Murddamane what were you doing hitting them with a hammer 😂😂 but no thats just weird
@ICCraider
@ICCraider 2 года назад
@@kody7041 The g502 dropped in quality when they released the g502 *hero.* The mice you guys are talking about are the proteus spectrum and the proteus core. The G502 *hero* however gets double clicking issues almost instantly because of a bug. A firmware update can fix it but it doesn't fix the drag-stop bug which gets incredibly annoying if you play FPS and RTS games.
@lannonan
@lannonan Год назад
I've got through three of these mice. I love how heavy it feels with the weights in. I've had all three LMB fail on me after about 8 months.
@SyrupsDip
@SyrupsDip Год назад
I like how you used “mice”. Even though it’s not the animal, the plural still goes for the word. 👍
@flameninja5016
@flameninja5016 Год назад
@@SyrupsDip its a mice
@agrisimfarming
@agrisimfarming 4 месяца назад
I love heavy mice too, i was thinking of replacing my trackball with this.
@retro3909
@retro3909 Год назад
I have a g502, and honestly I love just the way it feels. Not to mention the extra scroll wheel buttons help so much with any game I play. I remember watching a video where someone had it set to the lean buttons on R6. And ever since then I've been using this mouse.
@CREEZ_sinner
@CREEZ_sinner 8 месяцев назад
for what is this wheel future even useful lol I really dont get it
@retro3909
@retro3909 8 месяцев назад
@CREEZ_sinner I meant the extra buttons when you move the wheel left or right. However I have used the unlocked scroll wheel for a couple things where I'm too lazy to scroll to the bottom. For example, scrolling through the GTA clothes, scrolling to the bottom of Terms and Services, or even the bottom of the page in seconds. Sometimes I like to just flick it and feel it spin.
@CREEZ_sinner
@CREEZ_sinner 8 месяцев назад
@@retro3909 okey got it, this sounds actually very nice
@malcolmvanorder5453
@malcolmvanorder5453 2 года назад
As an owner of 5 g502 mice from proteus core through the lightspeed, I've always loved the mouse for its shape, the weighted free spin wheel with tilt for horizontal scroll, and being fully programmable(including macros) with on-board profiles(except for macros😕). No other mouse has checked all the boxes for me. And now it's low latency wireless with the chip from the g903!
@OhhTheHorrah
@OhhTheHorrah 2 года назад
I agree I own the se and the light speed and love them both.
@vanjagrigoriev1442
@vanjagrigoriev1442 2 года назад
Unfortunately I haven't found the side-scrolling yseful. It's just too slow. I think I would have preferred something like tilt + scroll at the same time to side scroll.
@OhhTheHorrah
@OhhTheHorrah 2 года назад
@@vanjagrigoriev1442 I use the side scroll as extra buttons when playing games.
@JoshuaWoehlkeMkII
@JoshuaWoehlkeMkII 2 года назад
The trouble with going with other brands is the lack of hyperscroll. When you work with long documents or code, or even webpages, suddenly switching back to a non-hyperscroll mouse wheel feels like going down a road covered in speed bumps to get to the right place. Hyperscroll is so effortless and precise at getting you vertically right where you need to be that it's a non-negotiable feature once you start using it. Not sure if Logitech patented it or something, but it's what's kept me from buying any other brand for over half a decade.
@UsaRubber
@UsaRubber 2 года назад
Clicking scroll wheel in and dragging is far faster and more accurate than a hyperscroll wheel
@hypurrfpv9483
@hypurrfpv9483 2 года назад
I agree, it's a great feature.
@hypurrfpv9483
@hypurrfpv9483 2 года назад
@@UsaRubber Not in all situations and with this mouse you have a choice. Have you ever actually used hyperscroll?
@UsaRubber
@UsaRubber 2 года назад
@@hypurrfpv9483 Sure it is smooth scroll can be heavily modified in many ways. Who hasn't used hyperscroll is the real question. Between ctrl+f and smooth scroll I'll beat you to any word on any page every time vs hyperscroll lol
@benjaminpont220
@benjaminpont220 2 года назад
Fucking love hyperscroll it’s absolutely fantastic
@BloodTide76
@BloodTide76 Год назад
For anyone that thinks the 502 has just too much for you... try the 402. I still think its a great mouse with not so much of all the bells and whistles but still enough features to make it a great gaming mouse.
@BubblesMane
@BubblesMane 10 месяцев назад
the 402 hyperion fury?
@tadejloncar
@tadejloncar 10 месяцев назад
used to own it. Its good
@nh8380
@nh8380 9 месяцев назад
currently use 402.. going to buy 502 hero in case my 7 years old 402 died, i love this mouse, use this for work and my hand never get hurt even though i use it all day long.
@unholydonuts
@unholydonuts 6 месяцев назад
Is the G402 still a good buy in 2023?
@MarkinhoO
@MarkinhoO 6 месяцев назад
@@unholydonuts I'm just about to upgrade my 7 years old 402 for a 502, because the middle mouse button being nearly dead. It went through a lot, legendary mouse, I would buy another one if the 502 wasn't just 5 bucks more expensive currently
@MysticCasey
@MysticCasey Год назад
I absolutely love my Logitech Pro mouse! After trying all the other recommendations the internet threw my way, the Pro just fits so good in my hand while providing a wide variety of dpi settings for a multitude of games. Especially handy to have each one save to a profile for individual games and desktop making it super simple to swap between programs without need to click anything.
@cidal_dank1793
@cidal_dank1793 2 года назад
I've had mine for years, and its still going strong. Literally thousands of hours of gaming on it. I love how it feels in my hand, the scroll wheel, the programmable dpi and buttons, the weight. It just does it for me 100%.
@All_Hail_Chael
@All_Hail_Chael 2 года назад
I had the wired one, it broke (I probably broke it tbh) so I bought the wirless one. I don't use half the features but wouldn't change it for the world. Top ergonomics and the extra weights are awesome.
@jme.147
@jme.147 2 года назад
Same the G502 proteus spectrum, had it since late 2018 and I’ve done a LOAD of deadly spam clicking and it’s never double clicked by acciadent
@scrp1o
@scrp1o 2 года назад
I still have the original G502, works like a charm even after 7 years.
@DSNSGaming
@DSNSGaming Год назад
I love my G502 Hero. I've had it for about 2 years now. Only just learned about the scroll lock from this video today. A year after the video was released. I'm very happy to learn it, though!! But I do occasionally hit wrong buttons like mentioned.
@hoseinqadam
@hoseinqadam Год назад
I have a steelseries Rival 500 which I adore since it have a decent amount of programmable buttons in the right places. Its annoying that they discontinue such a masterpiece of a mouse.
@spig3547
@spig3547 Год назад
The entire Rival line is good.
@FORGE1171
@FORGE1171 2 года назад
I love my G502, I even bought two spares to just have them around. I tried a few other mice like the Nightsword but honestly I don't think I can go without the 502's scroll wheel, it is so nice to have a durable wheel that can toggle. I've also never experienced the switch issues so I guess that's something to keep in mind.
@raywilliams6675
@raywilliams6675 2 года назад
Had G502 for 5 years, never had the switch issue. Only issue I have is the Blue LED burnt out in all the lights
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 2 года назад
Same here, the first nice mouse I had was a Logitech Marathon mouse, and since then I have never wanted to give up hyperscrolling, it's just too nice of a feature.
@artemdoesthings821
@artemdoesthings821 2 года назад
The DIY fixes to the mouse are awesome. Go community!
@SparQz
@SparQz 2 года назад
Paracord it and throw some corepads on it... It's golden I just wish it came in a lighter weight version with similar button layout
@0638
@0638 2 года назад
Yes
@ironmaiden5658
@ironmaiden5658 2 года назад
@@SparQz There's vids on people honeycombing them out.
@gogzhp88
@gogzhp88 2 года назад
Swapping out the switches on this thing taught me how to solder. It's surprisingly easy and a good beginner project!
@sumanlatalata2096
@sumanlatalata2096 Год назад
I also had this problem that it would sometimes register clicks twice or not at all. After it got older, this problem increased but I still use it as my daily driver for all of its plus points. It can be sometimes very annoying while doing work( making ppt, docs, etc)
@juliamonem133
@juliamonem133 Год назад
Just got one, I really like it. I agree that it seems like a bit "extra" in some places, but honestly it's way nicer for what I need a mice to do than my MX anywhere 2 that I got ages ago.
@apsims12
@apsims12 2 года назад
The G502 is literally one of only a few mice that I've tried that is actually comfortable for my massive hands. The fact that my current G502 is getting on for 3+ years old (only replaced my original G502 because the buttons aged which I bought in 2015). If it ain't broke, don't fix it is for me. I have tried other mice that both my dad and brother have recommended, yet none have been more comfy for extended use nor lasted as long as the my G502s. I even just have a spare G502 spectrum sat in a closet for whenever my current one decides to die.
@aeroripper
@aeroripper 2 года назад
I swear by my G502 hero. The only thing that sucked was the infamous double click issue, which fortunately is pretty easy to fix.
@Evan-xs8ts
@Evan-xs8ts 2 года назад
G pro x superlight or any wireless lighter mouse wi be better if you lower your sens and get used to it
@justinwhite6684
@justinwhite6684 2 года назад
I remember the first mouse I bought was a G502. Here I am, 7 years later, still using Logitech because of the good experience with it I had. Now I use a G903
@sau_as_sau
@sau_as_sau 2 года назад
I've done exactly the same transition from G502 to G903. Only because I want to use Logitech Gaming Software instead of GHub. G903's older version is one of the only wireless mice that supports Logitech Gaming Software and is compatible with Logitech Powerplay at the same time.
@Maxster197
@Maxster197 2 года назад
I'm still using my original G502 that I bought in 2015, I've just brought it to my office and gotten the wireless one for my home rig
@MaybeTiberius
@MaybeTiberius 2 года назад
i feel old reading that lol. I think my first mouse was some random black ball mouse. i remember when the mx518 came out... that was a difference lol.
@tighegilmore9202
@tighegilmore9202 2 года назад
Bro I have the exact same story ahahaha
@andrew123456ish
@andrew123456ish 2 года назад
have you ever had double clicking issues with the g502 or the g903? I've had to change out 3 G502s in the last year because of double clicking, the switches they use are so poor.
@Hankbob_Hillpants
@Hankbob_Hillpants Год назад
I got the original proteus spectrum g502 back in 2016/2017, it is still working flawlessly to this day It has the perfect amount of buttons, and is light enough to be nimble, but heavy enough to be controllable
@KillerExe01
@KillerExe01 Год назад
My Logitech G502 Proteus Core broke today after over 8 years of daily use of several hours. I think the failing part was the cable. Bought a G502 Hero today and it instantly carried over my profiles from the Proteus Core. It feels great and it just works the way I got used to for almost a decade. It's a proven design that'll hopefully go on to make all of us happy for many, many years.
@Cyemese
@Cyemese 2 года назад
Still have my G502 to from 2014. Still works perfectly. Never used the Hero, but I do use the Lightspeed now. Tried other mice only to find they were really uncomfortable or slipped out of my hand. Never understood the weight argument. Have yet to find someone that uses a lightweight mouse that made them better at a game. As for the switch problem, only experienced it on my first Lightspeed. You can fix it by being the spring in the switch. So far the second one I've bought has held up quite well.
@ThunderDraws
@ThunderDraws 2 года назад
low weight is really important if you play shooters with low sensitivity - the lower the weight, the faster you can flickshot for other types of games it doesn't really matter
@Ufasas
@Ufasas 2 года назад
you won't need to change g502 sensor to HERO at all, i've tried both, g502 sensor still on top of the league
@charlieseese5796
@charlieseese5796 2 года назад
I got this mouse on black Friday 5 years ago and still my favorite of all time. Currently using it and I've experienced no issues
@amaramachupa6422
@amaramachupa6422 2 года назад
double clicking ?
@Hydiz
@Hydiz 2 года назад
@@amaramachupa6422 I personnaly experienced it within like 1-1.5month of use. (Tracking would also fail)
@dannyway1111
@dannyway1111 2 года назад
Also had mine for 4 years with no issue. Recently upgraded to the wireless version and whilst feeling a bit cheaper, it's just as good imo
@Tael71
@Tael71 Год назад
I still have the older G900 and still really happy with it. Though I did have to change out the pads after a couple of years of use. Im still so happy with the older g900 that I havent seen any need to upgrade to the newer G903 or switching over to the G502. Sure the G502 can support more DPI, but the G900 models are true ambidextrous and feels better in my hand than the 502's i've played with at Best Buy
@MrBINGEBOY
@MrBINGEBOY 5 месяцев назад
love this mouse but my left button broke off from so much use
@CraziiDago
@CraziiDago Год назад
The mX 518 was my go to mouse for over a decade. Then I went to the Razr Deathadde essential. Mouse wheel went bad in 6 months. Now I'm on the G502
@eliswerekio
@eliswerekio 2 года назад
I have an older version of G502 and it's the best mouse I've ever had. The feel, the accuracy, material, not a cheap plastic wheel and just everything.... I've had the mouse 3 years now and I would recommend it 10/10 !! It's just this good..
@GoharMunir
@GoharMunir 2 года назад
Same here. I have the G502 Proteus Spectrum. Best mouse ever!
@nakiamou5354
@nakiamou5354 2 года назад
i still use logitech g500 mouse. not even sure how old this mouse is! its still doing great though and feels as new!! but the right click is starting to have some issues so im beginning to think that its time for an upgrade and the g502 just makes sense at this point..!! ^^
@brutusthecat6044
@brutusthecat6044 2 года назад
@@nakiamou5354 I'm in the same boat, I've loved my G500 for god knows how long. I'll be sad when it dies.
@mal-avcisi9783
@mal-avcisi9783 2 года назад
Best Mouse of all time. I got 5 of them. 3 x wired and 2 x wireless. Nothing can compete. Already tried all razer garbage copy's. Nothing is like the g502
@papaquonis
@papaquonis 2 года назад
I have a Logitech G305, which also has the HERO sensor while being lighter, cheaper and wireless. I know comfort is subjective, but the G305 is also by far the most comfortable mouse I've ever used as well. It's just excellent.
@earl_of_northesk3617
@earl_of_northesk3617 2 года назад
The G305 also really feels cheaper. Also, I think the ergonomics are just plain bad - a symetrical design just isn't good for a mouse. G603 is the sweet spot for wireless.
@balkandaddy
@balkandaddy 2 года назад
I agree, I switched to GPW a few months back but for 30€ constantly on sale the g305 is unbeatable
@RusticRonnie
@RusticRonnie 2 года назад
@@earl_of_northesk3617 its feels fine, its nice because it just looks like a mouse, no one asks about the spaceship on my desk like my 903. It a proven design
@morosis82
@morosis82 2 года назад
Agreed. I have one as my portable mouse because it's light, relatively inexpensive for its quality, has a dongle holding spot and a long battery life. I even have big hands but don't find it uncomfortable because the shape is relatively simple and not opinionated on how you hold it.
@eldibs
@eldibs 2 года назад
This is the reason why I tell new PC gamers to go to Best Buy and demo the mice and keyboards to find what they like. Because there's no "best" mouse and keyboard setup that works for everybody.
@NorthernLaw_
@NorthernLaw_ Год назад
I've had a G502 since the beginning, always been with it, only valid complaint is double click issues which have been fixed with the new G502 X line which just released! So glad it's the best selling mouse as it deserves it, I am never getting an ultralight, love the G502 way too much.
@noahhalfon2232
@noahhalfon2232 Год назад
Really appreciate the 5 second merch plugs instead of the 2 minute advertisements for an app for my phone
@Holynub
@Holynub 2 года назад
I've actually gone through 3 G502's. All of them ended with the double click failure. On my last G502, I did contemplate doing the switch replacement, but I don't have the hardware to do so. All that being said, I loved using the G502. It always felt comfortable, and I personally just love the free scrolling wheel. I've since switched to a Razer Basalisk, and that's basically a razer G502.
@tridinh1011
@tridinh1011 2 года назад
how long did it take for each of those mouse to double-click? I've been looking for a mouse that lasts for awhile
@Ametisti
@Ametisti 2 года назад
That's amusing because I sent back a faulty Basilisk and got the G502. Guess I've been lucky regarding the doubleclick thing thankfully.
@miles11we
@miles11we 2 года назад
My first lasted 4 or 5 years, just suddenly died, idk why/how
@timbombadil4046
@timbombadil4046 2 года назад
@@tridinh1011 went through three mice in two years. Avoid logitech. It seems the new switches suck. The old models were better.
@ICCraider
@ICCraider 2 года назад
@@tridinh1011 The G502 *hero* starts having double-clicking issues almost immediately and gradually gets worse unless you update your firmware. But the firmware update doesn't fix the drag-stop bug which sometimes stops your sprays mid spray in games like CSGO and Valorant. So the mouse isn't recommended for FPS gamers. It has bugs. EDIT: I went through 3 of them in 6 months. Kept returning it to the store and getting a new one thinking they were faulty but in fact it was a common bug in the G502 *HERO* linup. If you can find the g502 proteus core then get that one. The proteus core is far more durable than the shitty hero.
@AM-gp6kx
@AM-gp6kx 2 года назад
I bought a G502 recently cause it was on sale on Amazon and it’s been a treat honestly. The scroll wheel having open and incremental options is game-changing for me. I never knew it was so popular!
@ironicrbx
@ironicrbx 2 года назад
i have them since 2016 - best mice ever, now im using the mouse with holes due to it being kinda heavy now in new games
@derqatarzan4207
@derqatarzan4207 2 года назад
My clicker buttons went out in a a couple months, wouldn't refund :( Love everything else about it tho
@dangelo1289
@dangelo1289 2 года назад
yeah you right the scroll wheel options are a big feature, I use it for basic work, games, just browsing and its a good quality of life feature. the groove and lip is also my favorite part that helps amazing for grip, great for tactical shooters I have found personally. Also the look of the mouse for this type of design looked better than any other I could find in its price range when I had bought it.
@ryanlee9150
@ryanlee9150 2 года назад
@@derqatarzan4207 u gonna replace the switches??
@WillyAndreBergstrom
@WillyAndreBergstrom 2 года назад
You never know how important a good scroll wheel is until you've tried one and then go back. I have a G502 at home, but compared to the wheel on the MX Master I have at the office it's honestly a little stoneage 😄 On the Master, the wheel automatically goes from clicky to free spinning if you scroll fast, and returns to clicky when you slow down. Love it, gives me precise scrolling when I need it and fast when I want it. Not sure how good it would be for gaming though. For productivity, it's wonderful.
@Valhalla.Studio
@Valhalla.Studio 5 месяцев назад
My wireless steel series mouse recently died and I went back to my G502 Hero that's been chilling for few years, the wire is def bit annoying after using wireless for so long but I was pleasantly surprised how well the mouse works actually, the precision and comfort is amazing, I completely forgot how good it was.
@Enderwafflez
@Enderwafflez 3 месяца назад
There's another version called the G502 lightspeed but it's 80 ponds on sale and 140 on regular it's a wireless version of the G502 hero
@fimbultyr6567
@fimbultyr6567 Год назад
When the charging/battery failed on my Logitech MX1000 (and due to age it wasn't available to buy anymore) I wanted a similar mouse to replace it with. Most common response to my question "what to replace the awesome MX1000 with" pointed to G502 so I bought one. I absolutely love this little thing! Its comfortable, precise, configurable and has all the features I need (that being a "back" button and scroll wheel.......)
@deviss7114
@deviss7114 2 года назад
This was my first “premium” mouse back in 2015 and I tried a few other mouses but always came back to the G502 I hope they don’t discontinue it in the near feature
@toukoenriaze9870
@toukoenriaze9870 Год назад
They already started making them lower quality ... I bought one in 2016 and it broke this year ... So I bought an identical one cuz it was so good but this one feels so flimsy with an even thinner wire
@Vokrath
@Vokrath Год назад
@@toukoenriaze9870 there was no need to buy another one, it has 24 months of warranty
@RollingForThoma
@RollingForThoma Год назад
@@Vokrath 2016
@Vokrath
@Vokrath Год назад
@@RollingForThoma oops
@chanceForNotBeingRapper
@chanceForNotBeingRapper Год назад
fortunately it is taken good care of, g502 even has wireless model
@johnnyjohnny1325
@johnnyjohnny1325 2 года назад
I own a G502. It's completely worth it just to use the scroll wheel as a built-in fidget spinner. If they added the unlockable scroll wheel to other models, I'm sure they would succeed similar to the G502.
@capt.heinrich6945
@capt.heinrich6945 2 года назад
Well there's the G902 as well with a free wheel scroll wheel, and it looks dope tbh
@JohnyKnox
@JohnyKnox 2 года назад
My MX Revolution had it back in 09
@Djuntas
@Djuntas 2 года назад
Yes, free scroll on more models, please logitech! I will pay big money for a lightweight wired mouse like the g502. Also better feets, teflon etc.
@samael3276
@samael3276 Год назад
best mouse ever, i sit in a recliner and game and my 502 has fallen on the atleast 5 times a day for over year the only thing that broke on it was the clicky part of the middle mouse button it still works. im buying the new model 502 plus soon
@sczttvfx
@sczttvfx 7 месяцев назад
Got mine a few days ago, I can instantly tell a difference quality wise between other mice ive had in the past. Feels amazing.
@GearGazer
@GearGazer 2 года назад
I love my G502 and even paid the stupid price at the time to get the wireless G502 Lightspeed a couple years ago and have no regrets. Tried other mice but the shape and the weight of the G502 without the weights just feel perfect for me. Also that scroll wheel is perfect for me when programming.
@xypod
@xypod 2 года назад
The amount of buttons and the shape alone make it so worth it to me. Got the lightspeed as well and i adore it.
@dreizenit7758
@dreizenit7758 2 года назад
Same
@playerguy7
@playerguy7 2 года назад
I had a 502 Proteus Core a pretty while ago. The most remarkable thing to me compared to my currect 502 (The scrolling wheel died after 5 Years) is how incredibly much worse the switches on the mouse buttons have gotten. Even apart from the current reliability issues, my older 502 still feels miles, and i cannot stretch this enough, miles better than the curent one. I love everything else thats new on this mouse but if i could still use my old one, i would, for the buttons alone.
@ICCraider
@ICCraider 2 года назад
Used the G502 Proteus core for 5 years. And I'm a heavy ass user. It's the most durable mouse I've ever owned. But the g502 hero was a huge disappointment. Went through 3 of them in 6 months. It has a -bug- feature that stops your sprays mid spray in FPS games. To me the Hero linup dropped in quality.
@chaselundy6848
@chaselundy6848 2 года назад
if you have a soldering iron and an hour, you can switch out the switches pretty easily
@parthpatel9602
@parthpatel9602 2 года назад
Planned obsolescence just like light bulbs!
@RampageCrumpet
@RampageCrumpet 2 года назад
That’s interesting to hear. Thankfully my G502 Proteus Core is still chugging along nicely. Have got 7 years out of this baby.
@ledetdillan55
@ledetdillan55 2 года назад
@@ICCraider i had a proteus core right when they dropped and used it forever. the only reason i got a se hero core was for the rgb. but the proteus never had problems, and the hero one i got would, on occasion, un-ads when i play cod. idk why.
@Roman-du3vv
@Roman-du3vv 5 месяцев назад
Bought one of marketplace 3 years ago and haven't had a single issue. It's by far my favorite mouse especially considering the price. Love all the buttons and the feel in the hand in fantastic. Long live the G502
@nelsonparra3797
@nelsonparra3797 Год назад
As a non-gamer I don’t care much about the performance. I just love the design and feel with all the weights in it. I own 3 (2 wired & 1 wireless). Also love the feeling and function of the scroll wheel. I dry bushed the edges of the panels with silver paint and it looks like its made of metal. I think visually the design is perfect & looks badass on my desk.
@thepcenthusiastchannel2300
@thepcenthusiastchannel2300 2 года назад
I also bought this mouse and when the switches went defective, Logitech shipped a new one over really quickly. It really is the best mouse I've ever used.
@ScaredDonut
@ScaredDonut 2 года назад
Haven't had an issue with their mice but my keyboard broke back in the day and can 100% their RMA is probably one of the best.
@Killswitch1411
@Killswitch1411 2 года назад
my switches also went out and I didn't even care to get it replaced because every mouse I get from Logitech the switches or middle mouse button dies.
@PMSTTR
@PMSTTR 2 года назад
How long did that take tho? All of my experiences with Logitech mice were awful. They never last for more than a year
@An4lAvenger
@An4lAvenger 2 года назад
@@PMSTTR Same, both of my 903s had failing switches within a year each. Extremely frustrating. I had this mouse before them and it lasted just over a year. I love the features these mice have, but replacing them this often is just too much.
@cubertmiso
@cubertmiso 2 года назад
@@An4lAvenger I suggest you to buy better switches and replace the cheapo chinese ones. Would pay 3x the cost of mouses easily to have better switches form the start. Also weird for me at least is that there are so few mouses that have 4 thumb buttons. Helps a lot in web browsing to have separate buttons to go back/forward in history and tabs left/right.
@admiralcasperr
@admiralcasperr 10 месяцев назад
I owned a proper 502 Proteus Core. It was the heaviest mouse I could find with a good build quality at that time. The high weight is exactly the reason why I chose this. The extra weight coupled with good sliders on a slick mat allows for more precise small movements. It feels like the micrometric screw of mice. Low drag operations, yet enough mass to not be flailing around.
@DalisDL
@DalisDL Год назад
I love, LOVE, the G600, having all those side buttons helps so much, I feel like buying a couple more just to have in case of an emergency
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 года назад
I was a die-hard G502 user since 2014 for a LONG time. We own like 4. I've personally switched to the Glorious Model O/Wireless. The G502 is great, but I've found while I preferred heavy weight before, lightweight is nicer for me. While it seems like "higher quality" materials up front, the plastic shines like crazy over time and the rubber on the thumb side just outright... melts under daily use. I run into similar issues with the MX Master line, but on a far lower level. G502 is a great mouse, but I don't really recommend it anymore.
@coreyroberts3342
@coreyroberts3342 2 года назад
Recently switch over to Glorious's keyboard and I'm still shocked at just how good they are for the criminally low price. The Model 0/Wireless mouse looks phenomenal, does it have the same sort of declicked scroll wheel as the Logictech?
@ytdlder
@ytdlder 2 года назад
That's why I bought the G402 for work; the thumb area still has a rubbery feel to it, but is WAY different. I'd love a G502 with NO rubber, as the textured rubber just "melts & gets grimy"
@MrSolLeks
@MrSolLeks 2 года назад
I used to use the 502 for the longest time, then the wireless version, however they both developed the double click issue and I switched to a razer wirless mouse. I still prefer the shape of the 502 though.
@stryker0ae
@stryker0ae 2 года назад
Well what would you recommend then. I've only had this mouse for about a year, but it's by far the nicest one I've ever used. For me it works amazingly, but I can't attest to how the materials hold up over time. I have the wireless one and I absolutely love it. The 100$ price was imo totally worth it.
@MrSolLeks
@MrSolLeks 2 года назад
@@stryker0ae use it until it breaks, it may not die, it may get the double click like mine did after a year and a half. My first one lasted a good 4 years without problem and I only changed because I wanted wireless. When yours breaks, start looking around and see what is good at that time. no point in not using it if you already have it.
@MrInfiniteforever8
@MrInfiniteforever8 2 года назад
Daily driving my G502 for almost 7 years (since mid 2015). After such a long time of use and some abuse, the rubber pad under the thumb rest is basically worn down to the inner shell. Some points of the braided cable bent up and lost its normal shape since it was two years old (this might be considered an issue for this year model). The scroll wheel is also oxidized a bit from my finger sweat. I accidentally dropped it from the table quite sometimes. The mouse still works really well.
@Ultrabrezel
@Ultrabrezel 2 года назад
Had the same issue as I have had mine since 2014. But you can get a new top shell and even the cable for cheap on aliexpress.
@bambo5243
@bambo5243 2 года назад
@@Ultrabrezel i think after 7years you can upgrade to g502 hero xd
@Ultrabrezel
@Ultrabrezel 2 года назад
@@bambo5243 I have had no issues beside the outside wear so no need.
@unsolveddiamond6042
@unsolveddiamond6042 2 года назад
Ur comment got stolen by “dark”
@dominickanehl
@dominickanehl 2 года назад
Yea, what's going on with these copy pasta bots? Found it under so many Videos today. My is in the same age and also worn down, but it still works.
@Tube_Chaser
@Tube_Chaser Год назад
Where I live, I bought one of these back in 2020 for ~$100. Started getting a double-clicking issue a year and a half in and had to try extra hard to convince the store to uphold my warranty, lol. They gave me a brand new thankfully, and I've been issuing it with no issues so far for about a year now.
@MrBishop077
@MrBishop077 Год назад
I bought the G502 hero because it was on sale out the door for less than 30$ (MicroCenter holiday sales). it has been an adventure. My older mouse that ive used for the past 20+ years was the Logitech Trackman FX. A trackball mouse with 5 buttons (3 on thumb 2 on body)... If they kept that old trackball body and added in a Scroll wheel and a higher DPI i would still be using that style. I still find myself 'adjusting' to the new mouse in gameplay (WoW, Valheim, Ark, Rust etc..) .
@Kape98
@Kape98 2 года назад
I knew the mouse from the silhouette in the thumbnail. I got the wireless version, and it is hands down the best mouse I've ever tried. Had the G402 before it and it lasted me 4 years as well. Logitech knows what's up
@LegoJJ
@LegoJJ 2 года назад
Lol I saw the shadow and also thought, “oh! That looks like my mouse” and welp, so it is
@adenhia9283
@adenhia9283 2 года назад
As an owner of a g502 myself I feel that the contributing factors to this is how comfortable it fits in the hand, and the extra bottoms are really comfortably placed giving me easy access to extra keys for gaming or shortcuts when doing work and the fact that they give you weights to allow you to customise how the mouse feels
@sillysausage4549
@sillysausage4549 2 года назад
Gotta love those extra bottoms
@mega_1st
@mega_1st 2 года назад
why would you ever want to put on more weight, makes no sense
@piraterubberduck6056
@piraterubberduck6056 2 года назад
@@mega_1st You can change the centre of mass, as well as overall weight. Which, depending on how you are holding the mouse, can make a difference to comfort.
@Zefly101
@Zefly101 2 года назад
@@mega_1st Some people really like a heavier mouse. I've been using my g502 with two of the weights since 2016.
@gogudelagaze1585
@gogudelagaze1585 2 года назад
Agreed, the shape is everything.
@sxullpunch638
@sxullpunch638 Год назад
Ive had mine 7 or 8 years I guess and it is a good solid mouse and weight makes it feel sturdy. I am starting to have an issue where it will randomly double click or release on its own when I click and hold. I've had it for a long time with hours of use every day. I've ordered another and lucky for me it was on sale for 50% off on Amazon.
@gavindickson3128
@gavindickson3128 Год назад
ive been using the g502 hero for almost 4 years now its still in great condition and i love how heavy it is i like putting 3 of the weights in it and if you put it on top of a smooth mousepad its litterly butter and is insane for its price
@NewbGamingNetworks
@NewbGamingNetworks 2 года назад
I’ve ran many years on my G502. I love the tracking and extra buttons, but absolutely hate the software (so much that all the family in the house is running the older Logitech software because of how many bugs the new software brought forth) and I think the mouse has a little high of an arch, meaning it changes how my hand sits on the mouse. Still totally worth 50$ though.
@jakobvanklinken
@jakobvanklinken 2 года назад
This! I was very surprised they were positive about the software lol
@mattheweng4679
@mattheweng4679 2 года назад
@@jakobvanklinken They likely didn't spend a large amount of time in the software for the review. Using it the first time around or for a short period you're not as likely to notice any issues (at least in my experience) but once you actually start spending more time in it adding a bunch of macros, messing with profiles, etc, you start noticing those bugs
@Zoomer2008
@Zoomer2008 2 года назад
Yeah, I don't really like Logitech G Hub (or whatever it's called) too. Fortunately, G502 is one of the Logitech's mice that is supported by the older software too (Logitech Gaming Software) which to me feels less bloated. If it's also not your cup of tea, there's an option of saving all the settings to the mouse's onboard memory and completely uninstalling the software. Even RGB patterns are saved there!
@Nebujin383
@Nebujin383 2 года назад
No issues or bugs here with the logitech g hub, everything fine for the past 7 months.
@Arwel22597
@Arwel22597 2 года назад
have had my 502 for a few months. didnt really regard thhe g hub after setting the intial profiles and hitting onboard mode
@blackblaud
@blackblaud 2 года назад
I used a G302 for a few years, honestly one of the best gaming mice I've ever used, but started having the double-click issue about a year ago...I thought that issue was isolated to g302 only.
@doktormerlin
@doktormerlin 2 года назад
I had 3 razer mice before switching to the G502 and everyone of them had double click problems after a year of usage. My G502 holds strong for 5 years now!
@minus3dbintheteens60
@minus3dbintheteens60 2 года назад
The Hero sensor sucks balls. The G302 isn't comfortable at all, but the sensor is bloody excellent
@Raivo_K
@Raivo_K 2 года назад
I had double clicking on my previous G604 too. But that was after few years of heavy use.
@MagneticProductions1
@MagneticProductions1 2 года назад
I love my G302 so much I replaced all the switches when it started to double click. Haven't had an issue since, still the most comfortable and precise mouse I've ever used.
@OAlexisSamaO
@OAlexisSamaO 10 месяцев назад
4 years still using my hero g502 it has suffered lots of falls, once it fell into water for a whole night that ruined the middle click, i changed the thing that does the middle click, no so long ago the left click started to do double click y just changed the switch and it feels like new, i love it and will not let it die soon. i choosed the hero g502 because i had a really good experience with the g300s, i fell in love with logitech because of that, i gave my g300s to a friend and he also loved it he changed it recently for another g300s.
@Shawon
@Shawon Год назад
my new job has these, loved it. bought one for home too now, swapped my wireless back to wired because this mouse is just nice lol. love how it looks too, like some futuristic batman lambo mouse.
@mako_bd7012
@mako_bd7012 2 года назад
I've used G502 since 2015. It survived my rage in league, overwatch and many other games. It's a selling point for me. Its robust, heavy so I don't move it too much in fps games. And if i'm playing LoL I can get it much lighter. Yeah I got the double clicking issue eventually after 4 years of gaming and abuse I've put it through. But the mouse is cheap enough that I didn't think twice before going out and buying a new one. In contrast death adders didn't survive more than 6 months under my hand. That's enough for me
@planco
@planco 2 года назад
Yeah, there is higher risk of breaking something with that mouse, than breaking the mouse :D :D Know that, been there :D
@TigrexSC2
@TigrexSC2 2 года назад
Well, you were on the lucky side, mine started doing it after only a few months. Messaged them and they kindly sent a new one, for it to not hold the left click after another 2, 3 months. For me it's 2 too many, I'd rather pay premium for a mouse that lasts at least a year.
@sgcwratings1973
@sgcwratings1973 2 года назад
Omg same but the double click problem goes away after a couple of months xd and man how often did i hit this mouse hahaha
@mako_bd7012
@mako_bd7012 2 года назад
@@planco truly hahahaha
@elijah1110
@elijah1110 2 года назад
Wow, my deathadder lasted me from 2013-2021
@issacwessing4945
@issacwessing4945 2 года назад
I've had a g502 since 2015 and for me it really just came down to the ergonomics. All the other mice I could try at the time just didn't seem to fit. The weight was also a plus for me
@santeenl
@santeenl 2 года назад
Had the same since I used two mx518 for like 7 years. I ended up with a Deathadder for the last 5y. G502 is too heavy for shooters for me.
@justintoshima9459
@justintoshima9459 2 года назад
Same here, back when there was no $40 option lol. But that $80 i paid back then has definitely been a good investment for how great of a mouse it still is!
@DukeAbbaddon
@DukeAbbaddon Год назад
good mouse reviews, made me feel good DT
@scottlemiere2024
@scottlemiere2024 Год назад
Mine came with my G910 and my G533 headset in a set back in 2019 and I have had no problems with the hardware since I got it. The software has issues sometimes, but the hardware is solid.
@Woogoo336
@Woogoo336 2 года назад
I've had the Proteus Core for the last 8 years and I only upgraded to the 502 lightspeed because the rubber on the PC is almost gone and the wire is too short for my current setup. Solid mouse, would recommend.
@gustavocipriani1206
@gustavocipriani1206 2 года назад
I'm still rocking it, it works and looks like the first day, and I freaking love it.
@Woogoo336
@Woogoo336 2 года назад
The lightspeed seems to be exactly the same kind of quality as well. It's got great battery life too, in a month of use I've charged it only one time and that was when I opened the box.
@kevinsteele3446
@kevinsteele3446 Год назад
Just bought this mouse. Havent gamed with it yet but i love the weight of it. Buttons feel easy to access without accidently hitting them. First complaint tho. The floating scroll wheel quite easily scrolls just moving it around or accidently picking it up. I probably just need practice tho. Was $35 at Meijers on sale. So far, worth it.
@IamtheLordofDoom
@IamtheLordofDoom Год назад
I was in the market for a mouse at £25-£30 or so, tight budget... but when I looked at the G502 Hero, it was a no brainer to go that little bit further in budget and get it. No regrets. MY only gripe is it's a bit difficult to keep clean. I like the weight (I added all the weights), I love the scroll wheel (once I found how to lock and unlock it!) and it's comfortable even in my big hands. The wireless version would have been nicer, but out of my budget at the time. I'll keep it till it dies. That might be years...
@alexiosgrillis
@alexiosgrillis Год назад
Had that mouse for a good 3 years. Amazing mouse. Cannot recommend higher. Fantastic feel, great build.. absolutely beautiful. The software was easy to use, and darn do I miss it.
@tk8tray1
@tk8tray1 Год назад
Had one, broke after 5 months. Got a new one with warranty, now it does some funny stuff. Sleep mode? If it's not a thing, well mine does.
@mrm8818
@mrm8818 Год назад
@@tk8tray1 mine just died just shy of 4 years. Short compared to another logitech mouse i must of had for 12 lol
@themightycrixus1131
@themightycrixus1131 Год назад
I have an upgraded version of the mouse at 10:09 It cost me $10 at a pawn shop. Works great , has some finger support flanges on it as well as programmable RGB settings with custom colors
@Alpha_Synergy
@Alpha_Synergy Год назад
Personally, I love this mouse, and until recently I used every single weight (and I only removed two). I think the heavier mouse helps me keep it (more) on track if my hand shakes a little during more intense games.
@wah_xd
@wah_xd 2 года назад
bought this mouse back in 2019. Still using the same model to this day with heavy use. Haven't had any issues with it other than maybe the rubber getting worn down and the scroll wheel and buttons getting a little dirty from time to time. Absolutely love this mouse.
@rawhide_kobayashi
@rawhide_kobayashi 2 года назад
It's ridiculous that they don't add an anti-doubleclick option in the software. Just have a benchmark for how fast you can click. If significantly faster clicks come in, discard and assume bug click. This exists as a separate piece of software you can apply system wide (windows only, "clickfix". It's just autohotkey!), but there's no practical reason they can't do it on the mouse itself. It's not like debouncing isn't already a thing! They just need to stretch its limits!
@sofaking4779
@sofaking4779 2 года назад
I think a great deal of it is once the gamers settled on a mouse, they just don't want to change all the muscle memory for their favorite settings and games. Learning a new setup will cost you wins.
@iMr.Sunnshine
@iMr.Sunnshine Год назад
I tried the nightsword before the 502 and I'll recommend the 502 everyday. I have huge hands and still found that the nightsword was too big, was never comfy after the 1.5h mark of gaming, and would end up holding the mouse sideways to reach the side buttons. With the 502 I can play for hours and still be comfy with no hand cramp.
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