Chicago Dog is the Best! Even though a All Beef Dog is the key! Hot dogs are the best. Depends on what mood you are in, to give a 9 or a 10! They are all good.
I tried the new york using vienna sour kraut, nathans hotdogs, red onion ( I failed I need to make the red onion sauce ) and unfortunately I used yellow mustard I gotta pick up some spicy brown. I have to admit even tho it wasn't a true New York it was still good. Im a 5th Gen Chicagoan and I will admit the New York is good but Chicago is my heart and soul. We have best pizza tho FOGO, lol much 💘 Helluva job New York.
There's nothing like grabbing a Chgo dog, fires & soda. Even a bigger treat is the Maxwell Street Polish. I'm sitting here *salivating* at the thought of a Polish with tons of grilled onions & relish. If any of you Non-Chicagoans ever come to Chgo, make sure you try them both. *BTW, I had 3-of the dirty water NY* *Dogs(minus the Kraut) not bad*
It is a shame we lost some great Chicago-based Kosher hot dog brands over a decade ago. Sara Lee acquired Best’s Kosher (historically Oscherwitz from Cincinnati founded in 1880’s), Sinai 48, and Shofar; and closed them all in 2009. The original Costco food court dog was a Kosher Sinai 48 dog.
I’m from New York, and ironically Joe Sahlen is my neighbor, but Chicago dog is the way to go. I got hooked when flying to Ft. McCoy from Buffalo. My layover at Ohare is where I got hooked. Nathan’s also has an all beef dog with a natural case. AFAIK, the traditional Chicago dog is steamed, not boiled.
Steamed is definitely the norm in Chicago, I never see any place boil them. However, I do prefer them on the grill. The thing is to be careful here, what I mean is not all the places use Vienna. Some use Chicago Red Hots which actually is very similar to Vienna and one of the most popular spots uses David Berg hotdogs. Personally I don’t care for the Berg hotdogs, it’s ok but not nearly as good as Vienna.
I have Nathan’s and Hebrew National. They do not sell Vienna or Sabretts in our grocery. I am partial to Chicago dogs but never had New York dirty water dog.
I grew up in Chicago but lived in NYC most of my life and love both. "I don't think I wanna know" is the correct answer lol! I was at a Yankees game once on a hot day and saw the sweat from the hot dog vendor's forehead drip right into the water as he was grabbing the hot dogs. I skipped having a hot dog that day.
Spending decades at Chicago hot dog joints, surprisingly few people order dogs totally "dragged through the garden"...most folks pick and choose from the ingredients, with sport peppers and tomatoes quite often left off. The most common dog I've seen ordered is topped with just mustard, onion, and celery salt...with the pickle on the side.
My love of Vienna Beef dogs had nothing to do with being Chicago Style as I first had them as a kid in Hollywood and never knew of Chicago Style back then. I used to get them at a place called the Sunset Grill of the Don Henley song "Down At The Sunset Grill" fame. The man who opened the place in 1948 after he came to America from Austria was named Joe Frolich and I went to school with his daughter. He used to steam the dogs and when you ordered one he split it and put the flats sides on the flat top grill. Then when he flipped them onto the other side he put a slice of Velveta cheese to melt and then on the bun added some chili and it was pure magic. He also served them on a Kaiser style hot dog bun.
I'm so glad that you weaseled out of actually outright proclaiming an absolute winner, and I mean that very much as a compliment. I absolutely adore both super classic Sabrett's from NYC street corners, soaking all day in super tasty dirty water (it's like NYC Pho), but also Chicago hot dogs dragged through the garden, with such delicious poppy seed rolls. It's impossible to pick a favorite child - sometimes! And this really is one of those times!
I think I need therapy now🤣 They all look amazing! I grew up on dirty water dogs, but do love the char when grilled. The toppings on both are just perfect (I'll add celery salt to my NY dog, don't tell anyone. Plays really well with sauerkraut!) One to check out is Gray's Papaya.... Those are griddled, and that's how I'm cooking now outdoors. Great video Ron!
Honestly, I think I needed therapy before making this video! LOL! I also have to admit that I have become a celery salt junkie. I put that sh*t on everything!
I am in southeast Texas but one of my very best friends was raised near Chicago. I ate a Vienna Beef dog for the first time that I ordered online about a month ago. He insisted that we use Clausen’s for the pickle. I have eaten Chicago style dogs before but not from Vienna Beef. I loved the Chicago style and have eaten them for about 30 years. I just finally had an authentic Vietna Beef dog. Great stuff. Houston is about 90 minutes away and they used to have a restaurant called New York Hotdog Lady. It was an older retired couple from NY that tried to get a pushcart business going in Houston but Houston denied them except the store front and I think they finally packed their bags and went back to NY. At least while they were nearby, I got to eat Sabrett’s with their authentic onion sauce. I also got to eat the knish for the only time in my life. So even being a local here in Texas, my favorite hotdogs are Sabrett ‘s kraut dogs and Vienna Beef Chicago dogs. Great stuff from north of the Mason-Dixon Line.
Absolutely! Vlasic pickles are yellow, mushy and way to vinegary for me. Give me the natural-colored, crisp (refrigerated) and clean tasting Claussen ANYDAY! 😋
Great test, I'm an Upstate, NY guy, Hoffmann Dogs are killer on the grill with spicy brown mustard and diced onions. The Chicago dog looks insanely awesome!
I’m from Rochester we get Zweigles and I love them to death, I got family from Syracuse so I’ve had my fair share of Hoffmann’s. Let me tell you though I really can’t pick between the two… Unless we’re talking white hots, I’m taking Zweigles all day!!
I grew up in Chicago, near Fluky's on Western and Pratt, and not too far from Wolfy's on Peterson, as well as a few smaller mom and pop places in the 70s. Love a Chicago dog made with Vienna Beef hot dogs. But, love NY style dogs, and there are a few brands to choose from. I live in Arizona, so don't have access to a good and hearty hot dog place (although the California chain Wienershnitzel is a great chain in its own right, and we have one of those nearby) so have to create my own dogs, and I like the freedom to make my own choice in which kind to have. We moved to California in 1980 and I did get spoiled by the Original Tommy's chain of chili burgers and chili dogs (Tommy's is a kind of rival to In-N-Out) and my latest obsession is copying their chili recipe. Chicago style, NY style and even L.A. chili dog style is the best of ALL worlds, I must say!
Excellent. I’m envious you had authentic ingredients! My theory about sport peppers is to delay eating them until you’ve finished eating the hot dog. I’d squirt the juice on though. The soggy dills aren’t what I recall eating. Those I had on the south side of Chicago (in the 1970’s) were crisp.
Awesome segment! Perfect follow-up to the grilled hot dog video. As someone who grew up with Chicago dogs, I can say we have a tradition of both grilled (often called a char dog) and boiled dogs. They're both good, just depends on your mood. For my money, if you go the char route, you can't beat a jumbo Vienna beef dog. You can char the outside nicely without drying out the inside too much.
The best way is to boil it first then put the boiled dog on the grill to char it. They split open on the grill this way as they char, that's how they do it at the better hot dog stands as the dog stays moist.
For Grilled, I prefer the non natural casing, the natural casing works better for boiling, more snap. (I prefer the boiled with the natural cased vienna beefs).
Growing up in Chicago and trying countless dogs Parsies hot dogs were my favorite. They were on Higgins and Nordica. They were there for generations until "development" took over the property. They had their own dogs made just for them. They steamed the dogs and buns and piled on the traditional toppings. If you're ever in Denver, try Chicago's on Colfax. Originally from Chicago, they've been serving for generations as well. The place is stuffed with Chicago memorabilia and you even get served with a Chicago attitude. Awesome place.
This is a comment about buns. We seem to have a problem finding good buns that stay fresh. We settled on Pepperidge Farm until someone at that company decided to make “top-sliced” buns. Same bun, just sliced differently. Problem is, the top-sliced don’t cover the dogs well. On the regular, aka side-sliced, the dogs snuggle in quite nicely. Any thoughts on top-sliced and why they are pushing them?
Love the video! You need to make more videos with Brooklyn Bobby and Chicago Chuck😂. I’d like to see a face off with those two arguing about NY pizza vs. Chicago deep dish😎
I grew up around New York so I'm quite content with a dirty water dog plain or with a little bit of mustard, but that Chicago dog looked like a gourmet dog with all of those toppings!
As a native Chiacgoan, I can attest that surprisingly few people order dogs with ALL those toppings...quite often it's just mustard, onion, relish and celery salt...with perhaps a pickle on the side.
Steamed is definitely the norm in Chicago, I never see any place boil them. However, I do prefer them on the grill. The thing is to be careful here, what I mean is not all the places use Vienna. Some use Chicago Red Hots which actually is very similar to Vienna and one of the most popular spots uses David Berg hotdogs. Personally I don’t care for the Berg hotdogs, it’s ok but not nearly as good as Vienna.
It's common to have a "char dog" option at a Chicago hot dog stand. They usually just take one out of the water and put it on the grill to char, they split open on the grill which looks and tastes fantastic. That little bit of extra cooking comes with a price surcharge though!
Love both of them. Noticed in New York that some vendors added some onion slices in the"dirty water". Tried it at home and it really adds to the final result. First time I had a Chicago was at Hot Dog Heaven in Fort Lauderdale, awesome food but also awesome owners. They are proud of their home speciality. Here in Montreal we have tons of deli spots and if you're a real one you have it with mustard and coleslaw but the added touch here is cayenne pepper. Try it out it's awesome.
Patrick, you are preaching to the choir. Hot Dog Heaven is one of my go to spots here in S Florida. They also make a Vienna Beef grilled salami sandwich that just cant be beat! I love that place
@@FOGOcharcoal gotta try that! Coming to FTL after more then 2 years of pandemic on July 22nd. Any bbq spots I should try in south Florida? Any DM'S I can reach you for some good retailers near Lauderdale by the sea with fogo products such as black rub or some some BGE products I can bring back home ?
@@patrickparent1451 Holy cow, so sorry I missed this Patrick. I hope you had a great trip. I would have gladly given some great recommendations. I’m sure you hit Aruba when you were there…
Just got home to PA from Chicago this afternoon. I really enjoyed the Chicago hot dog. I'm just a fan of hot dogs 😋 I never knew New York had their own type of hot dogs. Can't wait to try it one day. This was a great video!
I’ve never had a NY dog like that, it was just yellow mustard and now I feel like I missed out. I grew up on Chicago dogs but that NY dogs look super good. Either way you are a winner after eating these beauts!
Chicago dog for me, but with a jumbo smoked beef sausage. Some of da best! I also do jumbo smoked pork sausages with brat buns, cilantro, spicy mustard, onions and chipotle aioli.
I have had NY corner vendor hot dogs. I also have had Nathens (cooked on the flat iron at Coney Island). The magic ingredient for NY dogs is that red onion sauce. Unfortunately you can not find it in the Chicago area. Yes, both Chicago and NY have great hot dogs. Now pizza is another matter. There is a reason New Yorkers fold over their slice of pepperoni. Its to pour out the grease!!!
I'm from North Carolina. While I can (and do) enjoy dogs from Chicago and NY, the best way to prepare a dog is with Mustard, Chili, Slaw, and Onion, in that order.
@@FOGOcharcoal Two is minimum. Of course, I always think "3 or 4 is about right", then lose the battle after the second...but at least I have the others for later!
It can be hard to find Poppy Seed Hot dog buns. To make them: Make an egg wash, brush the bun with the egg wash. Sprinkle poppy seeds on the buns then, toast the bun in the oven. 😃
In the opening scenes of the movie "Sudden Impact", Dirty Harry Callahan is saying that the murders and robberies don't bother him...but watching the forensic examiner eat a hot dog makes him "sick to his stomach". Because "Nobody, I mean NOBODY puts ketchup on a hot dog!" 🤣
Neither is better, they're just different. I happen to prefer the vegetables on Chicago dogs, but that's just me. In Milwaukee and throughout Wisconsin, you'll get bratwurst.
If you like Italian beefs, LUKE'S makes the best in Chicagoland. I like them dipped in the au jus, dripping wet with sweet peppers. Funny, but I have NEVER tried LUKE'S dogs!
Scandalously, I love a microwave dog best, a pan fried in butter with an iron skillet second, grilled, deep fried (ripped), and lastly boiled. I think the toppings you use dictate what cooking style you do.
You killed it on both accents funny as hell. Those poppy seed buns and sport peppers look interesting. What section of the Bronx are you from? I grew up in the Riverdale/Kingsbridge area.
Some of our joints in Chicago do traditional with char. Chicago char dog definitely hits the as good but different at the same time. The my dog is so good too. Our neighbor Wisconsin dresses a traditional brat the same as the NY dog. Sauerkraut and yellow mustard but raw onions. So good
Chicago all the way all the way! Chicagoan lived in NYC for 24 years. As sure as you can only get a Phili Cheese in Phili & Bananas Fosters in Louisiana.
I love both styles but I am from close to Chicago so of course the Chicago dog is my favorite. This isn't to say that a dirty water dog off a cart in New York is second to any other dog, anywhere.
Now that was a great Video. I lived in Chicagi for over 10 years ad had those dogs every place that sold them. And i did a lot of work in NYC so i have to say i have eaten a bunch there also. I tend to lean more toward the Chicago dog myself. But this was really a great vidoe. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
I love your hot dog vids man! As a kid growing up in Flushing Queens I lived on those Sabrett "dirty water" dogs, but damn those Chicago style you cooked up look amazing!
love this experience!! simble hot dogs are good.better grilled.. but drugged through the garden chicago dogs grilled are not fair..cause its next level.. but now you got to do the chilly dog challenge!!!
Grilled definitely is better! As for the bun and toppings for Chicago vs New York dog's it's like comparing apples to oranges. We like you make both types with one exception only yellow mustard on all of ours. We also like to make Italian Hotdogs which could compete for the win with both of these hotdogs types!
Its really hard to replicate a nyc hot dog, as people just get sabrett and stop there. Its the water, buns and topping. The buns I believe are rockland bakery its a local brand. Also sadly a lot of hot dog venders in nyc have moved away from sabrett for cost reasons. There using cheaper hot dogs that taste terrible. If in NYC ask if there sabrett.
Went to an LA Kings vs NY Rangers Stanley Cup game in LA and they have the California Dogs being cooked outside Staples Center and damn were they good, bacon wrapped with grilled onions.
Great video!!!! My daughter also resembles me. The first Chicago dog I had was in a casing, which also makes a texture difference. I ordered a Chicago kit from Vienna Beef about a week ago. Can't wait for them to get here!!!
I LOVE the charred EXTRA flavor so much that I split the dog and grill it face-down to get ALL that grilled char flavor directly into the center of the dog...AWESOME TASTE!. The dog will curl on you a bit, but it still fits in the bun perfectly and helps hold the toppings. LONG LIVE THE WEST VIRGINIA HOT DOG, BABY!!!
Aw man! I hoped you were going to do a Vienna Beef sausage NY style, and vice-versa with the Sabrettes. Flip the sausage used. Which is the better actual sausage NY style and CHI style? New ideas for a new video!
They are both great, but not really a fair comparison based on toppings. I grew up on dirty water dogs and Jersey Rippers in North Jersey and love them, but I have to admit the Chicago dog is better. I have to get a hot dog anytime I travel. Have had them in Iceland, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Munich, Amsterdam, etc. and honestly Europe has some excellent hotdogs. No real way to compare them all head to head though. Wish I could. Grilled is better than boiled, but there is the sentiment or nostalgia factor to the DWD.
by the way...noting simple about the nyc onions...which are made with a red wine reduction and ketchup balsamic vinegar...and about 8 other spices and ingredients...
The dirty hotdog water isn't just water. They put spices and other ingredients into the water to add flavor to the dogs, the stuff added to the water gives it a discoloration even before any hotdogs are ever put in the water. Thus your dogs cooked in clean water would be a bit flat compared to street dogs from ether City. I love all hotdogs but I was converted to Chicago Dogs by a friend about 25 years ago. Chicago knows how to hotdog! Add a little Chicago juicy roast beef to the bun under the dog and good gawd is it great! Okay, I gotta go make myself one now.
That's what I'm talking about!!! I am coming to your house for supper sometime. Lol!!! I do like my Vienna's on the grill as well.... There used to be a hot dog stand in Chicago called Toots. They actually boiled the Vienna dogs in beer. They tasted great! Awesome channel! You won me over.
