Not putting the G14 and G16 in the Gamers categories is weird? you can easily fix either the heat or noise issues by uninstalling Armory crate and replacing it with G-helper, then undervolting and making a custom fan curve, after these simple adjustment they become better in every way than the Omen Transcend and becomes suitable for creator use since they're so compact and light.
@@oscarswazi6412 And worst in usability XD No real ports, low GPU wattage, heat and fan noise even worse than gaming laptops, the same stupid unusable FN keys that even Apple learned to remove, high price even higher than an equivalent macbook (the base version is useless with a terrible screen and no dedicated GPU) The XPS line is destroyed, it is what apple used to be from 2016-2019, great looking device, but completely horrible in every other metric.
can't imagine myself buying a new laptop without josh, as they say not the video we want, but the video we need tell your mom that we're proud of you too
I can’t imagine buying a new laptop at all, considering how quickly they are discounted when an updated model is released or knowing Amazon Refurbished exists.
these videos and channel in general is so underrated, the videos are concise whilst also being thorough and in depth, can't wait to see copilot+ coverage soon!
DO NOT BUY AN HP LAPTOP! Trust me, I have a HP Envy x360, it looks gorgeous and I was very pleased with my purchased at first. I also asked the guy from the store about the hinges, if they would be resistant enough. He sold me some crap about hinges that were tested to last for thousands of times. It's a lie. The hinges broke... twice. Now my laptop is not covered by the warranty anymore and my screen cracked because of the hinge breaking free from the cover. I can't close my laptop anymore. It's brand new on the inside and a mess on the outside despite infinite care and precaution. There are countless stories of people encountering the same problem, HP know and do nothing! It's way more bankable to make buy a new machine every year. Don't waste your money!
Same here. I have an HP Pavilion x360 and my first battery got killed, replaced the battery only for it to get killed AGAIN a few months later. At my third battery (less than a year old) and it's already at 0.15Wh of capacity AT FULL CHARGE. And it costed $1000 when I first bought it. Never trusting HP again.
I've heard recently from a guy at micro center that HPs are usually same build quality as Dell (and have had great Dells for years), but anecdotally, everyone says HPs are a complete wash (and that's also been my experience borrowing HPs). Does anyone think it's a matter of which HP you choose?
@@madhavjayam2452How do you know? Even if it runs locally for now, it still stores a fuckton of data that MS could siphon anytime. Personally i'll switch my gaming laptop to Linux after my finals. Fuck Microshit.
I have been struggling to avoid snapdragon reviews as they aren't retail units with full testing yet. But they've been soooo tempting! So thank you for coming up with a vid like this, to act as a salve during the hype cycle. Really appreciate it. Please try to time your nerdy vids around the most frothy hypes
I honestly am waiting for the releases this year, I do hope you guys will be able to do a full rundown for all of them! Am excited for both the new CPU and GPU from Intel, Nvidia and AMD later in the year
I have a Thnkpad X13s and love the battery life and I'm surprised with the reliability and function. Now with the new X14s coming out, I'm for sure checking it out.
Great video! Just a quick FYI: I noticed you marked the noise level of the MacBook Air as 0 decibels to indicate it makes no noise. However, since the decibel scale is logarithmic, technically no noise would mean −∞ decibels. 🤓
@@KriticullCTRL first of all, its personal preference, second of all, even I, as a windows user my whole life would love a macbook just because of how good the M series processors are. I'm counting on Snapdragon X processors to bring windows laptops to finally the same level
@@lordawid That's true. We should be appreciative when manufacturers actually improve their products, as that creates competition. Just look at how Apple's M Series chips are now pushing Windows manufacturers to experiment on the more efficient x86 architecture. What he should've grumbled about is the price of RAM and storage on the Macs.
@@lordawidI hope so, but the difficulty would be de compatibility with the apps and videogames, and the other hand the different brands with distinct characteristics
Hold on. Why are you skipping over the Asus Strix Scar 16? In your charts, while glorifying the Alienware, it is shown as being quieter, cooler, and a vastly superior screen. Please explain this
damn, this channel is a gem - consise, to the point, lots of options, and even if you don't plan on buying (because I already got the M3 MacBook) - interesting & entertaining 👏
Excellent video. I do want to add getting refurbished business laptops. Below are some that serve most business and general users' needs well (with 16GB of RAM): - Lenovo ThinkPad T14s Gen 4 with Ryzen 7 CPU - HP EliteBook 845 G10 with Ryzen 7 CPU - Dell Latitude 7440 with 32GB of RAM.
I bought the Yogi i9 the day it came available mostly because of Josh's reviews and comments about it. I like it and it is all of what he said it is but I would highly suggest that you don't get caught up in the excitement of a "New" laptop coming out and buy it right away. I waited from Jan when I first saw Josh's review until April when it was available to buy it. Now only 2 months later I see it selling for $1699. I paid $2100 two months ago. I would suggest taking all of his reviews and info and waiting at least a few months after it comes out so you can save the $400
In 2020, I used your suggestion for Idea FlexPad (AMD) and it's still my favourite and in proper working. I'll purchase my next laptop when Zen 6 CPUs are launched, and I'll again bother you for suggestions when they are out in the market. Big thanks from sunny India 😎 🇮🇳
I love this channel so much because it is basically the only channel that reviews and compares MacBook and PC laptops fairly. I am primarily a Mac user, but I also want to be know all the best latest PC laptops
Wow! Being just 1 minute after a video release, makes me feel privileged! Thanks Josh for everything you have given me in tech tips, you also helped me in deciding on purchasing my 14 Inch Macbook Pro M3 Max! No complaints, and this meets my workload very nicely: Autodesk fusion, DaVinci Resolve etc, you are by far the most accurate and unbiased tech reviewer I have ever come across, have a great day!
i have the M3 pro, highly recommend (i dont have to worry about gaming on here cause i have a desktop so this is strictly for class work and adobe stuff)
Sad to not see the framework laptop in the list, but makes sense i guess. Great Video btw ! Can't wait to see the review of ARM based laptops from this channel !!
I was blown away how good a 2024 Asus Vivobook 15 with an ultra core 9 computer turned out to be after testing - $1500 and it impressed with how much better it did than some higher priced units I have tested.
This video talks about so many variables that I didn't find it very helpful. Rank them somehow. most durable, fastest, best for office, OLED burn-in, touchscreens, or whatever. Seems like the common themes are fan noise and weight.
Josh, I went with the Alienware M16 R2. Big battery mostly fully upgradable and good keyboard. The display is lacking to others, but I have a great monitor.
I am wondering, what criterias made the Yoga Pro 9i 16 not in the Gamers section? And why the Zephyrus G16 instead of the G14? Would love some insight on that :)
Interesting question actually) also 4070 version problems solves.with Helper, so this pitch sound, and fan noise isn't an issue...Yoga pro 9i very underrated. G14 on amd, I don't understand why it isn't on list, OMEN transcend is great, love it, but g14 have it's place there too, amd is better in every way than any Intel cpu
I grabbed the Legion Slim 5 14 late last year for $1000 and it still kicks ass. I can’t believe how close to the upper tier of this list it is 6 months later and at that price point.
I'm eyeing the Yoga Pro 9i. It's speakers and sound quality are on par with MacBooks. Mini LED display is gorgeous for those bright scenes and outdoors. And it's great for gaming. And it slices through video editing like butter. Truly probably the best windows laptop for overall use
I believe copilot+ pcs for arm were announced and soon the copilot versions of Intel and AMD versions as well. Apple wwdc is just around the corner and the M4 based macbook might be announced? You will need to spend another fortune in just a few months time to fairly compare among the newest generation of laptops.
Personally, the best value laptop I've seen and used is the Lenovo Slim 7 Pro X. It has great performance but, it gets quite warm while gaming. The best part is that it's regularly on sale for $800 at Best Buy.
I picked up Asus TUF A15 with a 7940HS + 4060 (140W) for just $1330, I'd say it's nearly perfect, the build of the frame is very strong, hardly bends, performance is outstanding, in light and medium tasks the fans are turned off, you only hear them a bit while gaming at around 40db in Cyberpunk 2077 with path tracing (but with a headset you can't hear anything), the only downside is the screen being 1080p LCD (At least it's 100% sRGB, 144Hz), and battery life is okey-ish at around 5 hours of light use. I use it for mainly game development and gaming and it's been perfect.
I know the Honor & Huawei laptops are not that popular, but I was thinking to buy "Honor Magicbook Pro 16" and the reason why I specific want this one, because it's the new release proper Honor's gaming laptop, and the Ecosystem is really good for around 1550€ (RTX 4060 edition)
Snapdragon only affects laptops $1k and up and only for those not requiring dedicated graphics. Plus we don't know what apps work and don't on those yet. Anyway, if that use case above is you, then I'd wait a couple of weeks to find out. But if you do see a really big sale on one of these. Then, it's fine to buy also
For me i just got my macbook pro 14 with m2 max 32gb and 1tb storage 2 months ago brand new for HALF THE PRICE, and tbh as a programmer and college student, i couldn't be more happer
Doesn't add anything, but I do want to join the chorus: You're a forerunner in this field. Congratulations on this well-considered and immensely helpful compendium!
I get that you recommended a Macbook Pro 14 inch for professionals, I agree 100%... If you can tolerate Mac OS. I can't. Im happy you included a windows option, but only a 16 inch one. What about the best 15, and 14 windows options? More love for Windows / Linux users, ty.
the pavilion plus is now $400 off! wow.. but then if you look at the price its $20 more than what you show here... So they just jacked up the price to put a bigger discount amount on it.. shame on HP
At this point, there is almost 0 reason to get the X over the current 8840HS or Ultra 7 offerings. Battery life is the single option, but everything else is better on the two other offerings. If you just need web surfing, get a tablet.
Hi Josh, thanks for such another great video. One question: Do you think IdealPad Pro 5 14 (AMD) is the best bang-for-your-bucks 14-inch laptop, given that you give the 16-inch version such high praises? Or does the smaller chassis cause some significant problems?
I have an older 13" Surface Laptop, but looking for something new for work travel. Priorities are light and thin, good screen, and strong battery life. (Don't care about AI, etc.) Would love to hear some thoughts!
make an video on portable good battery laptops either it's Windows or IOS, in which laptop is good for the Tech-related industry professionals such as programmers or guys having multiple VM's on the go.
Today I received my Lenovo ideapad pro 5 14 inch AMD 2024 model. As far as I know this model is not available in the USA or even outside Europe which is really unfortunate. I don't have that much experience yet but it seems like an good deal(84Wh battery 2.8k 120hz oled 8845HS up to 65W 16.512gb and a healthy amount of ports, including a usb-4 and a full size sd card reader another type c 2 usb A's and HDMI 2.1 and 3.5 mm)for slightly under €1000 with a student discount applied.
and that's why I bought this year's yoga pro 9i. i'm so damn happy, I just stopped using my PC overall. I'm a wedding filmmaker: premiere pro, even with my 10 bit 422 4K a7S III footage, it runs smoothly. it blows my mind. I'm a gamer: i'm getting 350+ FPS in valorant at stretched 1.4K res, 250+ FPS in CS2, and 130 FPS in destiny 2 in 1920x1200... all while not having nvidia game ready drivers installed (because I'm using the studio drivers). I could get even more frames out of this thing, and I still don't feel the need too. I'm a uni student: if you put this thing in battery saver, 75% brightness or less, at put the refresh rate to 60FPS, this thing lasts the whole day and still works incredibly well. **ALL THIS WITH ONLY THE 4060 VARIANT!!! HAHAHA** oh, and I added a 4TB nvme inside. so now I have 5TBs of storage, just for an extra 200 bucks. this. device. is. PERFECT FOR ME.
i would just get the macbook air 15 or the ideapad 15. you want that screen size for sure, but don't break the bank because you won't need that much performance for writing.
@@PsychonautTV Thats true! I dont need much power. I'd even get away with the base configuration on the macbook - the cloud handles storing files any way.
I have to disagree with the review on the asus g16 oled vs the alienware m16 r2. I am using both right now and the alienwares fan is SO loud, I can even hear it humming during idle! The asus on the other hand is so much quieter.
@@JustJoshTech Yes, ive been testing both on diablo 4 and the alienware is very loud even after I tried messing with the fans in their software. the g16 is way quieter when compared to alienware m16.
Something very important in buying a windows laptop is the speakers. Rog 14 (2024) is in my opinion the perfect deal since its speakers and display can rival even macbooks. The webcam quality and mic is really good especially compared to omen transcend 14. I Would be interested to know why the 16 inch version was recommended in this video.
It may be a late feedback but when showing the battery results you should show the percentage used where lower is better. Why? you may ask. Let me explain. Let's say there are 2 laptops A and B. After 4 hours of Netflix playback A has %90 battery in it while B has %80. If you put them into the graphs like that the average Joe will look at them and say "Oh 80 and 90 is basically the same" But in reality laptop A has used only 10% where laptop B used 20% which actually means Laptpop A's battery life is 2 times of B.
Between Computex next week, M4 MBPs launching in the autumn & CEX in January, the laptop market will have a whole new generation of models to consider. With major generational updates from Snapdragon, Apple, Intel & AMD, everything here will be outdated & seriously outperformed so only buy at a VERY generous discount.
Such a great video, I really like how you guys recognise how difficult is to choose a gaming laptop nowadays. While you guys do not include it under the gaming category, would you recommend the Yoga Pro 9i with an RTX4070? I do not play the most demanding games (mostly FIFA) and I feel like the laptop offers the same premium feel as the G16 but with less fan noise (and a smaller price tag!). Also...how was the battery life for the Yoga Pro 9i in real life use? Thanks!
As far as other reviews say the Yoga is a great option, as premium as the G16 but keep in mind a bit heavier, so the G16 might still be worth it if you're ready to do some tweaking to make it run quieter and cooler. But anyways, fifa is an easy game to run so even cheaper 4060 laptops would work for you just fine.
I got the 4060 32GB variant In premiere pro, even with my 10 bit 422 4K a7S III footage, it runs smoothly. it blows my mind. In gaming, i'm getting 350+ FPS in valorant at stretched 1.4K res, 250+ FPS in CS2 1.4K res, and 130 FPS in destiny 2 in 1920x1200... all while not having nvidia game ready drivers installed (because I'm using the studio drivers). I could get even more frames out of this thing, and I still don't feel the need too. I'm a uni student: if you put this thing in battery saver, 75% brightness or less, at put the refresh rate to 60FPS, this thing lasts the whole day and still works incredibly well. if you watched josh's dedicated video on this laptop, you'll see that it actually has the same performance as the G16 w/ the same gpu, but cooler and quieter lol
Lenovo's seem to do pretty alright in these videos. I do enjoy my Lenovo flex running Linux, might go for an upgrade. But likely wait out to see how these copilot+ PC's end up
I’m curious why you don’t mention that Mac’s don’t support Daisy chaining which allows you to have 2 monitors by connecting them to each other with one cable and connecting one usb type c to the laptop. Discovered that for this reason most Mac users buy docks as if it were a normal thing to do.
Great video Josh !!!! I would love your opinion on something. Say I want to buy a Laptop for Research and GIS work what would you suggest ? Let's say normal GIS work Vs heavy GIS work. And let's say No less than 500GB SSD (ideally 1TB), no less than 16GB of RAM, a good port selection and a Number pad. If you see this, thank you in advance and thank you for all your efforts !!!
Will be very interesting to see how the new Windows 11 ARM based laptops with the Snapdragon X Plus/Elite SOCs compare to the MacBook Air/Pro. If we can get even 80% of the performance of the M2 with those and all the other benefits around battery life and portability I think that would be a big plus for any of us in the Windows ecosystem.
After all it's a nice try to push Intel and AMD laptops but NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN THOSE POWER HUNGRY SH*Ts any more. There are currently only two options, MacBooks or Copilot+PCs.
I bought the lenovo yoga pro 9i with the intel core ultra 9, 64 gigs of ram, 4070. This thing is a beast and it runs cool like unexpectedly cool would recommend 100%
Another very good laptop **imo** is the new 2024 Huawei Matebook D16: it has 4 different configurations - the lowest one sporting a 12th gen. Core i5 (and the highest a 13th gen. Core i9) - which makes it suitable for every kind of workflow, the keyboard is great to type on and the 720p HD camera is not bad either; on the other hand the screen is only a 300 nits 16:10 IPS, although with a 90% screen-body ratio. The ports kinda suck too (there are only 1 USB-C, 2 USB-A one of which still _2.0,_ 1 HDMI and the headphone jack), but that is remediable with a hub. All in all though it’s quite a good machine adaptable to all kind of works….and pockets, as the prices range from 600€ to 1200€ (but you can easily find it for cheaper on Amaz0n and other platforms). 🙂
Heat and fan noise are such weird metrics to judge a gaming laptop by. I'm still not sure why the Omen Transcend is recommended over the G14 when you're paying a similar price for the Transcend as the G14 but experience about a a 25% drop in performance versus the G14. Yeah, the Transcend runs cooler, but even amongst laptop gamers--what percentage of the community realistically plays games on their dang lap? In how many scenarios is someone going to game, where they wouldnt happen to have a desk in front of them OR choose to game on their lap instead of their desk? As opposed to buying a gaming laptop for being a machine that is portable and also happens to game? And of course the other complaint is the fan noise...okay but how many gamers will be using laptop speakers as opposed to having dedicated gaming earbuds or headphones or desktop speakers? I want to know in what universe does less fan noise and less heat beat a 25% more GPU performance, more vibrant screen, significantly better speakers, better build quality, lighter laptop, smaller footprint.
