I use to hate Pokémon black and white but years later i realized it’s not that black and white were bad games it just that pokemon hg and ss set the bar too high
In retrospect it was way better than hg ss in terms over all post game for sure and also it also felt so new after that all these other than sun and moon have just falt and been repetitive
Hg and Ss had beutiful detail work but Black and White literally stand up to it in the most fair way They reach equal quality and both have their good moments i honestly think both HG, SS and B&W are extremely similiar due to their close releases, both like to push the ds to its limits and one is a remake the other is a new generation I don't even like making they argoument of "they are all good no pokemon game from ds is bad" but in this case i think it is actually as it is
I’ll never forget when I moved out of my parents house in 2022 and legends Arceus came out the end of that month. I preordered at my local GameStop in the mall and called them 3 times that Friday because I was working all day and couldn’t go pick the game up til the end of the day and their was a huge snowstorm incoming and I wasn’t gonna be the only one snowed in without that new game. From the second I got into the game I had those old nostalgia vibes. Life was good.
Wow I actually remember this too because there was a huge snowstorm that weekend where I lived too. I spent that entire weekend absolutely tearing that game up lol, peak memory for me as well
My favorite Pokemon memory is when I realized I could push the boulders down the holes in the ice path in gold. I’d spent weeks trying to figure out the ice path. Eventually giving up and just kinda wondering around doing random stuff. Periodically returning to try to solve the puzzle. Then eventually I pushed a boulder through by accident and it clicked, I got to blackthorn, I beat Claire, I caught some cool pokemon, got the master ball and used it on raikou, and used it to destroy the league. I played it several years after it came out, but I was a little kid in the mid 2000’s so I didn’t really know Google was a thing I could use for resources
This is great. There’s nothing like that initial discovery as a kid, like the lightbulb lighting moment. I’ve had sooo many throughout my years of playing and still continue to across all the games I play now and it’s my absolute favorite feeling when playing something
100%. it makes me really wonder whether everything I think back on as the greatest games ever (HGSS, emerald, FRLG) really were that great or if the reason I feel so strongly is because of how much they shaped my childhood
@@mistercbody They can be both. Memories are formed by emotion. Nostalgic things are nostalgic because you loved them, and you loved them because they were great. Nostalgia just amplifies your memory of their greatness, it doesn't fabricate greatness where there is none.
Gloop Guy, Antman & Gater. The holy trinity of any Pokemon team For real though the amount of care put into the overworld sprites gave this game so much personality at every step. I remember going out of my way to get a Wailord just so I could see how big it would be on my DS screen lol.
Gloop Guy is cracked - and yeah completely agreed. The sprites added another whole layer and reason for people to continue playing the game for that exact reason
I literally can't hold tears each time I hear the olivine/ violet city theme. I played the OG GS releases back in the day when I was just 8 years old, and this remake made my life just better when it came out. I still have the original saves of my original playthrough of them backed up and play it here and there on emulators, just because. Thanks for this video.
So glad you enjoyed! The violet / olivine song has to be my favorite track in the entire game (right up there w the National park theme because that one is just incredible). I love that you have the OG save files too, I’m an original save file hoarder😭 still got my sapphire & BW2 saves untouched for decade(s) on the carts
The first time I played Pokemon was Pokemon Blue emulated on what probably was the shadiest 100 games in a CD pack ever. But I absolutely loved how me and my sister came up with so many explanations for things like, "Oh you gotta knock out Pokemon or they'll keep following you and triggering encounters," or "Pikachu is the only electric type that can shock ground type Pokemon". That said Gold/Silver was the moment it clicked and led me down a rabbit hole that I'll cherish forever. Between the music, the variety of Pokemon. Roxanne being a brick wall, I loved every moment of Gold and even grinded grades to convince my parents to get a GBA for Crystal.
It’s always interesting to hear when people gush over hg/ss for me because they’re imo some of the the most overrated games in the franchise. I still enjoy them nevertheless but it’s one of those games where I’m constantly thinking about the issues I have with it whilst I’m playing. From the awful level curves, limited Pokémon availability, boring and uneventful story, bland region design. One of the biggest selling points: Kanto, was also something I took issue with as it meant johto felt lacklustre, short and empty. Some people may say Kanto makes up for it, but to me, it was just 2 boring regions slapped together instead of a full complete experience.
I hear ya, I know a ton of people have those same pain points as you. I wouldn’t say Kanto necessarily compensates for how you feel because to be honest, Kanto for the most part is pretty empty aside from being able to tour around it and beat the next 8 gym leaders. No matter what though, I think they’ll always be S tier to me just because of the personal connection I have with them from the time in my life when I first experienced them - what would you consider either the most underrated or best game in your eyes?
i think ppl gush over it because, compared to Pokemon's usual standards, HGSS seems great in that sense. But if you compare HGSS to ALL RPG games ever made, then its flaws become very apparent. For example, imo, HG/SS doesnt even come close to FF6 or FF7. HGSS is "enjoyable", but i wouldnt consider it a Top 10 all-time.
100% agree anytime I go back to to a pokemon games its either HG/SS or my original copy of gold (got it for my 3rd bday and still have the box too 😎). I'm still upset they never continued with the pokewalker too.
That’s so awesome that you still have the original copy! I think it’s a massive flex to say you still have some of your childhood copies lol & If they brought something like the poke walker back I think it would be a massive hit. Like we have Pokemon go which is I guess like a poke walker on steroids, but there was something really great about that simple little thing imo
I play pokemon heart gold back in 2011. They set a high bar in making that game and it ends up sense a unique. Only because of the poke walker, pokemon follow you, a mini games in sport and other stuff. If they have pokemon follow you in future games, that will be unique.
HG/SS and Black/White were peak pokemon. I somehow skipped B/W when they released and came back for X/Y. I was so confused why people were so dissatisfied with X/Y until I went back and saw B/W. To me it seems like Pokemon games were passion projects about up until the past decade, and now it’s all about the bottom line.
black and white, then black and white 2 were the last games I played at release until sword and shield, and when i played SWSH i thought they were really cool to see the jump from 2D - 3D (i skipped sun/moon & x/y) but other than that i found the game to feel a little empty tbh, so I completely get what you mean. Profits > Passion sadly
A lot of people skipped black and white unfortunately. I loved the storyline and black and white 2s post game and the seasons (which weve never seen again). The designs just don't vibe with me. People try to dismiss it as nostalgia for old pokemon but that isn't it. I love most scarlet/violet designs. It's not just the inspirations they chose (like ice cream). I think it has something to do with the lines. The pokemon just don't look quite as much like pokemon to me. Some of them like zebstrika do, but many of them just look a little off or more like fakemon. The other problem is the moving sprites. I think gamefreak implemented them before they were ready to do something like that. I get motion sickness. It sucks because I can't go back to them. Even back in the day it was a struggle to play for decent periods of time. Too pixelated and too blurry.
@@pixality7902 Agreed - my biggest pain point with them is the pokemon designs mainly. Otherwise, I'd personally consider them top of the line. The moving sprites actually never bothered me much
Black and White for sure, HGSS is pretty bland actually. The original games are the ones with the most glaring flaws in the franchise, and the remakes have failed to fix most of them.
@@mistercbody the fact that people treat piracy as a crime is bizarre. If it weren't for piracy, I probably wouldn't know about Nintendo. In fact, today I bought a pink Animal Crossing edition Switch Lite.
I honestly disagree with everything you said about Gen 5. While it's true that they don't have the same amount of content as HGSS, I feel like you tried too much to focus on what BW (or any later games) aren't instead of focusing on what they are. Then, this criticism isn't really just directed at you, but every time people say that the new Pokemon aren't good or that they don't "feel like Pokemon", I always roll my eyes because it feels like some fans just want either cute Pokemon or badass Pokemon but nothing more, and imo the series would be uninteresting if it didn't have more out there and bizarre designs. As someone who grew up with Gen 3, I wouldn't say that Gen 1-4 designs are all winners either, and designs like the Machamp line or Jynx are uncomfortable and actually more "un-Pokemon" than a lot of modern designs, and maybe this is a hot take, but Gen 6 and 7 combined have more solid Pokemon than most of Gen 4. It's okay to dislike the Pokemon of later Generations, but act like the earlier ones are all much better it's kinda unfair. The modern ones are different, sure, but they aren't less Pokemon than the previous ones (this critisim isn't directed to you). As for HGSS or the Johto games in general I won't say too much on it with only saying, that although it is cool to see Kansai inspirations in there, I think it also suffer the same problem the 2d games, mainly Gen 1-4 have, being the regions tend to be almost identical to each other. It's definitely a hardware limitation issue but credit where's credit do, despite having problems with modern Pokémon, the regions from Unova onwards (excluding Paldea) do a better job on making the region more diverse and unique compare to HGSS Johto. Despite my critisims, I still think the video is interesting and well made.
Thank you! Really thoughtful & fair feedback - I actually do agree with you when you said Gen 1-4 designs aren't all winners because that is VERY true lol
@@mistercbodyI actually never expected you to respond lmao. Keep in mind that, despite my disagreements, I still enjoyed the video. You did a great job 👍
I loved HeartGold and SoulSilver, i'm trying to figure out how this game killed the franchise? I was hyped for Black and White and those are better games in terms of Story, Content and Pokemon but not music. I didn't start getting disappointed with the franchise until i played Sun and Moon.
I hear your points. There was a huge leap in technology and the amount of content packed in HeartGold & SoulSilver is tough to beat. The jump to 3D technology, and Nintendo getting more greedy makes matters worse.
fully agree on your black and white opinion. the people who grew up with those games are now saying they are were great games all along. when they came out the games were received just as well as sword and shield with its cut national dex.
There are way too many problems with gold and heart gold to put them on time. To many of the new Pokémon are in the post game. Home you didn’t want a slugma or howndoom on your team
I'm still adamant that B/W has the best story in the franchise by far, but I may be biased because the last time I played through it I was super high, but Crystal will always be my favorite for admitably nostalgia reasons.
These games are kinda overrated and carried by nostalgia. If you want to talk about post game content , black /white 2 have these games beat in every way.
Nostalgia is a massive factor behind my sentiment towards them for sure. Besides that though, all the other reasons I mentioned just put them in my top favorites in the franchise
HGSS are amazing, but literally right after this, we got BW, and BW are the best games in the franchise bro. I actually had the same initial response to them as you did - the pokemon available just weren't as compelling as those available in HGSS, and so I didn't really like BW that much to begin with. However, BW2 added back in native access to some of the highlights from previous generations, and in doing so removed the problem that was preventing people from fully appreciating how good BW really were. And with the benefit of hindsight - 1-4 weren't all that great either. Taken as a whole, Gen 1 feels pretty generic, with the smallest proportion of designs I like; gen 2 feels forgettable, with it being hard to remember what originated in it; gen 4 leans heavily towards nostalgia baiting with new evolutions of existing pokemon (although has great legendaries and mythicals); only gen 3 I think has genuinely solid design through and through. What made HGSS feel like it had a good selection was the ability for the player to focus on what they liked most from a 400+ strong list of options. Meanwhile, gen 5 was taking the bold move of having an entire new full set of pokemon, without using anything from previous generations. It worked about as well as gen 1 did, and as a result did detract from the first playthrough experience a bit, but what you're getting everywhere else - the great visuals, the for-once decent storyline, the refined battle mechanics and the novel gameplay ideas - more than make up for it. Ultimately, the title "best pokemon game" has to go to the one that is most replayed, and for me that's BW2.
Just found your channel today i agree that heartgold and soulsilver are better than black and white but black and white 2 are even better in my humble opinion. I spent hundreds of hours in the pokemon world tournament and the white tree hollow reseting for hidden grottos hunting legendaries old and new. Playing the dream radar. Black and white 2 are very good and are the scalloped potatoes of the pokemon thanksgiving table
I actually never buy both games when a new release drops. I always choose one, but for some strange reason and I don’t remember why or how this happened, but I have both black and white 2, so that must be saying something about how I felt about it years ago lol
In terms of pure game design, gen 5 does beat out HG SS. Gen 2 was pretty poorly designed as a game, and HG SS failed to really fix it's issues. But in terms of presentation, HG SS has gen 5 beat
I got HG when it came out my senior year didn't play it much went back to in when I was in college and was blown away ORAS came out shortly after. I think HGSS was amazing but gen 6 quality of life features for local and online multi-player battles and breeding were peak. I never had as much fun battling my friends as I did in gen 6. I just wish they stuck with spirtes and pixel art. 3d is alright but if gen 4 had gen 6's quality of life it would be perfect. HGSS set the bar for pokemon games it didnt kill the franchise it's just everything else hasn't reached that bar. It's crazy hearing you were 11 and might have been embarrassed of people finding out you liked Pokémon. I graduated in 2010 and I remember having a grad party and half the dudes had a pokewalker there and we were all just huddled around talking about our pokemon while everyone was getting hammered 😂
Completely agreed about wishing the pixel art style stayed. I think the 3D stuff is pretty cool but overall prefer the 2D art. And lol that’s great, I think I was so concerned when I was younger because I didn’t have many friends with similar interests as me so at that age I just assumed that meant everyone had outgrown the games / hobby even though I hadn’t. Then a couple years later I realized I just needed to find some people who share interests with me, and luckily I did!
Johto based games are the worst, they heavily rely on Kanto as being the second region available to explore in post game, most new mons added like Sunflora, Ledian are bad and many more got new evolutions in Sinnoh like Togekiss, Gliscor which in turn ruined that region to not get many new ones which are all mostly good like Garchomp, Lucario; fewJohto mons are not easily available to all and some are locked in postgame like Houndour, The Johto gym leaders have aces which are mostly from Kanto. Seriously don't get the hype behind these overrated Johto games
pokemon is rated E for everyone your never to old. I have enjoyed every pokemon game i have played & i have played from Leaf green and fire Red i dunno pokemon has a Charm in my opinion at least, my top 2 are X&Y and D&P so its why i had bias for the BDSP on the Switch i wont say its perfect but i enjoyed them i know bias but i had fun and thats what matters.
Exactly! Just cause something may not be necessarily the popular choice doesn’t mean it’s the wrong choice - everyone’s got different preferences & has a right to enjoy whatever they want
i think the story's pretty great, and it just felt really new and fresh with a brand new region to explore, new pokemon, etc. so although i wouldn't say it's my absolute favorite game, i did really like it
Another video praise the gen 2 😂😂😂 oh boy gen 2 and reames is almost the same bad game , bad level progres still many things was not fixed still gym leaders and level dif. Is joke wild pokemon make no sens (after 8 gym you can catch geoude level 20 somhitng in wild grass ) and many more , saying gen 2 kill the franchise is no my friend what kill pokemon was gen 5 becose they try try make good product but finacial they fail they not make on gen 5 enogh money so after that from gwn 6 they come back to "simple game for kids" thats it and feom gen 6 we see how this games getin worse and worse . And HG/SS was lets be honest just some quick money for them only where they put some eford was grafic some more map to discover that it still its the same bad gen 2 like before.
From what I understand, these games were major projects with the goal of getting the vast majority of people to get into them so they could experience what gen 2 had to offer whether they played the old games or not. All the effort was intentional. Sounds crazy to say it like this, but there was never supposed to be a pokemon game as good as this one. The whole peaking thing was intentional. They promised so much in HGSS and they delivered on nearly everything they promised. Newer games get one or 2 big things right and then the rest is meh. Case in point: X & Y is flashy cool crap with mega evolutions and stuff, but I HATED the lack of difficulty these games had. That alone made me a hater of X&Y. B&W, fine story and graphics but the amount of unnecessary mediocre new pokemon designs...like why? *TLDR: HGSS did a lot of big things right. No cutting corners. Because it was their last big passion project.* Though you could argue black and white were the last big passion project I suppose.
Wow, yeah great point. I knew they were meant to be the ultimate Pokemon experience back in the day, but didn’t really think about how that implication could rub off onto the other titles besides them just not living up to HGSS in one way or another. I don’t know if it was necessarily intended for the following games to fall short (many people would argue with me and say that newer titles didn’t fall short)
@@mistercbody Yeah poor choice of words when I said "peaking was intentional." More like "it was naturally bound to happen." And yes if a game does a few things right people will latch on to that and say that new game is good too. Like "OMG ORAS has megas and all this cool stuff! Can't top that!" type of arguments.
I mean I disagree with him too but I'm at least thinking about explaining why. The only thing you accomplish by being snide and passive aggressive is making the detractors of his opinion look like idiots, which you are.
Game Freak dared to be different and ambitious with Pokemon Black & White, and we punished them for it. We wanted the same thing. We killed Pokemon, because we've been getting the same stale, safe thing ever since, exactly what we asked for.
Great video that came up in my recommendations. HG/SS really was a love letter to the fans. They went above and beyond with those titles. We’ve yet to see anything closely resembling what went into these remakes.
glad you enjoyed! and they really did go above and beyond, down to the smallest details. I've probably played through the game 5+ times since my first playthrough and I am literally never bored
Crazy how you were 11 and embarrassed. When I had heartgold I remember being a senior in high school. And I remember playing at the beach before going to prom and the after parties. From that day playing heartgold was always the highlight. The beauty of that masterpiece had me hooked like crazy. I always love looking back at the juxtaposition of doing something reluctantly just because its what everyone else is doing (going to prom) VS doing something that my soul is excited for and makes me feel a sense of joyful wonder (playing heartgold). Even back then I knew which was the better option. I really didn't fear looking like a loser. I was like, yeah what else is new? lmao. These games were so powerful they took me away from the problems I would create in my head. Obviously none of the newer titles have had this sort of impact in my life. You just set that bar too dang high HGSS!
Hahaha yeah I was embarrassed because a lot of my friends at the time didn’t share that interest with me, so I thought I must have been too old for it or something. I clearly have grown out of that school of thought being that I just posted an almost 20 minute video talking about how much I love the games😭
My fondest memory was getting off the bus and booting up my gba sp and playing crystal version and playing with my favorite pokemon feraligatr so im so glad they buffed his movepool in the remakes to this day he is my favorite starter
The storyline of each game started becoming more and more shit after 3rd gen. Once they moved from the 3DS to the switch the quality of the games themselves fell off a cliff because gamefreak decided to do what every studio does now: release a half-finished game that "we can just patch later"
yeah exactly. i know i'm not alone in saying that i reallllly wish that wasn't the norm. that's kinda how i feel about DLC generally. don't get me wrong DLC could be great if it's used to add onto a game, but sometimes it feels like the DLC is something that should've been available from the get go, especially if you pay $60+ for the base game
And......... Why you think,what BW storyline is more shit than RSE storyline? First 3 gen's so overrated,RBY simp,GS.....uh,RSE have May,and all of 3 are just unfair: many bugs in first 2,force of psychic in this game and too much water in gen 3
I started with gens 3-5, with platinum, white, heart gold, and ruby, and since then I’ve played almost the entire series. By far frlg to bw2 (maybe not including original dp but I still enjoy it) was the peak of the series, but I’d say that bw2 and maybe even platinum are better than hgss due to the Pokémon distribution ans level curve. I’ve played through soul silver 4 times now for dex completion and the many grind sessions and having to fight the e4 and red 10-20 levels under really started to have its toll.
Oh I'm definetly in the same boat as you that HG/SS were the pinnacle of Pokémon, but I would say they share the spotlight with BW AND B2W2. For sheer jampacked goodness, nothing beats HG/SS however, there was still a lot of good things the Unova games brought in, like the Pokemon World Tournament.
Ever since watching the 4kids anime adaptation ,i wondered how it was to go on a world like that and I got that with Pokémon Gold. I'm a casual player, but I enjoyed last my Legends Arceus. 😌
I think these games are great, cuz of course they are. But to be honest, I feel like they are overhyped and I have some personal problems as to why they're not my favorite. 1) I pretty much feel the opposite about the music as you. I think that all the extra stuff they added to the songs really ruined it for me. The Gen 2 soundfont is incredible so I'm also really biased. 2) I think this game is really slow. I get that Diamond/Pearl are slow, but these feel slow in a different way. Like how if your lead slot is using a field move, they do an animation...it's charming at first, but if you're anything like me and are still playing these games well into adulthood, it gets old and you don't appreciate it as much and also while the UI is almost all touch, I feel like it is much slower to navigate and using items feels like it takes longer than the other gen 4 games. Anyway, those are just some reasons why I think these are stellar games, but not the best.
Completely valid opinions tbh - like I said in the video I do wish that GB sounds item was available right when you got the pokewalker (or at least relatively early in the game) because then you could choose the vibe of your entire playthrough rather than having to essentially complete everything before you get to hear the original soundtrack lol. And I feel you on the field move thing. I think it looks really nice, but if you’re over it and just trying to get through an area then it could be annoying for sure
The Gen 5 games would have been perfect to me if only they'd kept the following Pokemon from HGSS, which I read was planned but had to be cut for some reason. And because the 2D style has been abandoned now I'll probably never see a game that combines the very best of Gens 4 and 5 to make the ultimate Pokemon game (unless there's an unofficial game out there that does this).
Gold and Silver werent intended to be the final installments - this is a misunderstanding of what i believe (correct if wrong person) the person in charge of marketing for pokemon said, they couldn't see themself continuing in the role i believe but changed their mind but it was interpreted into this belief of gen 2 being the final games when this just was never actually said
i consider BW and HGSS part of the same generation and I think that's when pokemon peaked. All downhill from there. (except maybe the framerate, that peaked on gen 3, which was the last time we had 60fps games).
Pokemon shouldn't be 60fps. It's not an action game, and its sprites aren't animated at even 30fps. You only need 60FPS for 3D games, and pokemon shouldn't be 3D either.
@@yurisei6732 Disagree. Making a game smoother is always good. Even shovel knight runs at 60 fps. The GBA games are much better than most other pokemon games just because they are smoother. It makes a world of difference. Saying a game should run at a lower framerate because it belongs to a certain genre is nonsensical. Every genre benefits from higher framerates.
@@vitgerivaz Except then you have games that deliberately crank the frame rate down again to achieve an aesthetic. And games where framerate is tied to game clock and higher framerate means everything runs faster than it should.
@@yurisei6732 that's on the programmers. Games running faster with higher frame rates is a coding issue that ideally wouldn't happen. "Aesthetic" games might be an exception but still not all of them fall under it
You should play Drayano's improvement hacks Sacred Gold and Storm Silver. He's about to make a new version of them too: Aurora Crystal. Hopefully it comes out soon.
I do understand what you mean and I feel the same way. BUT the HGSS generation grew older and want to play more difficult games. Pokemon games are kid games in the end and they still sell extremely well. And nostalgia play a big roll in our feeling. I don't think the Pokemon Company cares for so long the games sell good.
I agree with 100% of this HGSS really set the bar really really high! but i still prefer GSC to HGSS but i love both i just don't like the clunky nature of generation 4 in general. been playing through platnium and surprisingly it's actually been something i've been slowly playing through again. people have gotten really Polarized toward anything they disagree with and hastily makes an instead reaction getting all upset before even hearing something out all the way through. tbh after the scarlet/violet debacle i will not be buying any new game from gamefreak. i've played every generation and after gen 7 i started to break due to the lack of replayiblity of newer gens. and really wish newer generations shared that replayablity maybe it's cause i'm older and don't enjoy it as much as i used to. and that's okay.
yeah really good points. And I've struggled with that thought a lot myself - are the games really that different or is it just me? not really sure, but i do know after playing through all of the games with the exception of a couple from the 3DS days, none have hit me the way HGSS have. Maybe PLA, but that was so different and fresh that I don't know if I'd count it
@@mistercbody a lot of people tend to not understand the veteran audiences of the game because they didn't experience pokemon the way a lotta the veterans who were born in the early 90s and late 90s did. remember a kid is born almost everyday. so people are gonna have way different experience then use old beans did as kids. and if that experience being different then theirs make us a "genwunner" then fine! i'd rather be that and i have zero shame in that! because my favorite pokemon generation is actually gen 1 unironically!
@@mistercbody Plat, HGSS was peak pokemon though i did play a crazy amount of battle subway in both black 1 and black 2. after gen 4 the series became less enjoyable and it got worse from there. Sun and moon's ability to be replayed again does not exist i'm never bought ultra scam A and Ultra Scam B even gen 6 does not have any replay value vs the first 5 gens of pokemon. i think the main issue with us veteran fans of the series require a Massive replay Value. which was missing all the way from gen 6 and up. gen 7 had some positives but a lot of the replay value has been absolutely sunk the games were almost made so you WOULDN'T wanna play through again so you'd buy the next game. the BDSP remakes of DP were an absolute trashfire. internet personalities don't really get how good Plat and HGSS actually were and invalidate our ire for getting a competent well made pokemon game for the claim "we just want re-releases of HGSS" NO that's not what we want we want Good Pokemon Games! why aren't we allowed to have a high standard and be forced settle for mediocrity something we are paying over 60 dollars for! they are out of their minds. there are tons of RPGs like dragon quest that do everything and more and do it better! why can't pokemon fans get just as good experiences?? there's no excuse for it. people are doodoo eaters and will just consume the content. we just want pokemon we can replay over and over again but that will never happen gamefreak just genuinely doesn't care or want to make pokemon games. they just do it cause it makes them money and it's their cash cow.
I disagree, Pokémon Black2 and White2 are the best Pokémon game but not Black and White they are not as good as people say they are, Pokémon Black2 and White2 are better in every way from Black and White minus the story. Pokémon Heart Gold and Soul Silver suffer the same problems as Pokémon Gold and Silver: The Story, Map design, Pokémon quality and quantity in the main game for player and NPC's to use these all problems should have been fixed in Pokémon Heart Gold and Soul Silver and I am very disappointed in that part.
Yeah I understand where you’re coming from - there are some things that definitely could’ve been worked out differently, but I was overall stoked on the game honestly
I've been playing consistently since Pokémon Red. HGSS are phenomenal games, but a large portion of it is most definitely nostalgia. Unfortunately, you will never be able to reach that high regardless of what GameFreak does... They are definitely up there among the top Pokémon Games, though. [I'm absolutely in the Black & White are best camp. How dare you pre-empt me like that 😂]
Hahahaha I’m glad you got a kick out of that comment😂 but yeah agreed, no matter what we’ll never really be able to recapture that feeling / the memories of an original play through
Theyve been my favs since they came out. I was so hyped when i heard they were making them. Crystal was such an amazing game and i was excited to go back. Crystal was the first game i could play as a girl. They came out a year earlier in japan. I was seriously thinking about ordering a japanese ds and game so i could play sooner. If it had been a few years later i might have. They came out in the US just after i graduated high school. Soulsilver is the only game ive picked up pokerus in game instead of receiving via traded pokemon.
I used to remember being so jealous that the games got to Japan way before the US & wow i actually completely forgot about pokerus until reading your comment. Thank you for just unlocking a memory for me lol
Black and white 2 where the true peak of the series in my opinion and I say this as someone whos favourite gen is gen 4 Gen 6 was meh outside of oras which was great especially online Gen 7 was good if a bit annoying with it's constant dialogue Gen's 8 and 9 i haven't played
BW2 was such a fun game. I don’t know why but for some reason I bought both at release and still have them. Those are games I really need to get back and replay because it’s been too long
Crazy. I thought I was the only that thought about the ability to play these games with just your left hand on the D-pad and your right hand with the stylus and touch screen! I’m glad someone realised the same quirk about these games!
the DS pokemon games where great playing platinum and heart gold back in the day where great tho i when i want to play a johto game i tend to play crystal rather then the remakes but still got a lot of nostalgia for heart gold
@@mistercbody same except I didn't get heartgold or soulsilver until I was an adult, so even though they are also some of my favorites, I don't have as big of a connection
Dude this video's going to blow up. But I feel the same exact way. Pokémon really peaked in the 4th generation, and it has nothing to do with nostalgia. I'm not the biggest fan of gen 5 myself, probably my least favorite gen. And it's not just from the bad Pokémon designs. 4th gen just offers so many more options to enjoy the franchise. Not only did gen 4 offer 5 main series titles, and introduce the physical special split. You could interact with so many spin-off games. Like PBR, Pokémon Ranger for the Manaphy Egg, and Pokémon Ranch etc. And you could transfer Pokémon from gen 3 with just one system. It's crazy how the Pokémon World Championships from 2008-2010 looks better than the Championships from 2011-2013. Because the earlier ones were being rendered on the Wii using Pokémon Battle Revolution. I could go on about this subject forever, but dude you're not wrong. Gen 4 is almost inarguably the best generation of Pokémon, and it not close. Loved this video 🔥
Thanks so much, I’m glad you like the video and hope you’re right about it blowing up😅 - really thoughtful feedback also. Pokémon ranger was an absolutely incredible game man, I played it on and off a bit recently on the same modded 3DS I showed in the vid lol. And agreed, gen 4 will always hold a special place in my heart
@@mistercbodyThe video's actually blowing up rn, it has double the views from when I 1st watched it. Not only that, you did an outstanding job on the thumbnail and editing. And did a great job of explaining why you think gen 4 is the best. Without discrediting others gens, all while avoiding a potential gen war in the comments. Your video's definitely being pushed through the algorithm. Because I was randomly recommended it, and I'm glad I was.
@@sogieazul thanks so much! I tried to do my best to not make it sound like I was trying to diss anyone else’s favorites because we all have our own opinions. None of them are wrong
