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The best Sauron, The Dark Lord Lord EDH Deck for $100 

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Enjoy this very based take, on Sauron, The Dark Lord.
Full deck available here - archidekt.com/decks/7817483/s...
#commander #magicthegathering #edh
00:00 Intro & Story Time
02:00 Why EDHRec is wrong
02:52 My Sauron Build
03:46 Using Sauron
04:24 Gameplan
04:47 Deck Breakdown
05:37 Key Upgrades
05:49 Weaknesses

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@BeaglzRok1
@BeaglzRok1 17 дней назад
Wait, people build Sauron and DON'T go to Flavortown by putting in as many Amass cards as feasibly possible? Next you'll tell me that they don't see the obvious synergy of his Draw 4 ability with that new Mindless Conscription enchantment that has Amass 3 each time you draw a third card each turn.
@samualbrown56
@samualbrown56 20 дней назад
“I love a bit of flavour” Yeah no clearly not mate
@Garl_Vinland
@Garl_Vinland 17 дней назад
“I may be the boogeyman in my group” *Criticizes EDH decks for being flavorful instead of a well oiled machine* Yeah dude, I think you are!
@ML-yn9yu
@ML-yn9yu 7 дней назад
Well there are people who look to win and people who like to have "fun"
@Garl_Vinland
@Garl_Vinland День назад
@@ML-yn9yu Winning on your terms is more rewarding than winning at all costs.
@Patchsz
@Patchsz 21 день назад
Great content man! I love listening to content on 2x speed or 1.5x speed. Just found the way you started/stopped every few words difficult to get through. Amazing video though man, sorry for the negative feedback. Hope to watch another one soon!
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 21 день назад
Appreciate the feedback! Glad you enjoyed it despite the pacing issues.
@jarrenberrett8381
@jarrenberrett8381 20 дней назад
@@BasedDeckDept I just dropped into the comments to note the same issue. Seems like a relatively easy fix to an otherwise great video!
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 20 дней назад
@@jarrenberrett8381 🙏 Yeah 4th video so still figuring it out. Appreciate the feedback!
@Legoboy1243
@Legoboy1243 8 дней назад
Idk I loved the slow voice, felt very calming. Great vid!
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 8 дней назад
@@Legoboy1243 Glad you enjoyed it 🙏
@johnnyborbon5085
@johnnyborbon5085 16 дней назад
I built my sauron a little heavier on the amass subtheme using the war of the spark cards that give the army keywords such as flying or trample, adding sac outlets that benefit from a tall army to get value in case I cant swing with my army (Shadowheart, Ghoulcaller Gisa) and keeping some light LOTR flavour as I'm a huge fan of the franchise. Will definitely take a look at this take on Sauron, I've been thinking about switching to a more reanimator focused build but I can't bring myself to let go of the LOTR Flavour and the uiniqueness of an amass-focused commander build
@SwedeRacerDC
@SwedeRacerDC 13 дней назад
I like the different build to Sauron. I would like to see more specific highlights as it's hard to see what you're doing with the deck in a phone screen, but I get the idea. Definitely a neat way to build it
@MrShazaamable
@MrShazaamable 19 дней назад
I like the format of this easy to follow
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 19 дней назад
Thanks! My 4th video, so still figuring things out, but glad you enjoyed it.
@Supportivechaos
@Supportivechaos 12 дней назад
I went for a slightly different build of flavour town- I just played cards that I think Sauron would have played- so like cruel ultimatum, omniscience, the court monarch cycle and just a bunch of fun overcosted but flashy cards- the deck works fine for lower power and gets to be a fun but ultimately clunky deck that I just have a great time with- love your work on this list though and it makes me want to try and make a storm build with sauron-
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 12 дней назад
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks! Also, happy you found a flavour led list that you enjoy! Love the idea of thinking about cards Sauron might have played
@brandyourfan9244
@brandyourfan9244 20 дней назад
I made Sauron as Grixis Wheels. Run all the Nazgul, and cheap reanimation spells to cycle through my deck. The game usually ends with me using a mass reanimation spell and draining the table. It's a little evil... And that is on flavor
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 20 дней назад
I love it. I have a separate Nazgul deck, but I was considering doing something similar.
@mint-swirl
@mint-swirl 21 день назад
This gave me some good insight on my Sauron deck, which primarily focuses on using the amass triggers as aristocrats fodder. I mostly just ignore the bottom half of the card, but weaving in some ring tempt for the card draw would probably be a huge upgrade for the deck.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 21 день назад
Glad I could help! Call of the Ring is the goat in the tempt department. Love that you're doing something completely different with Sauron. He's so versatile.
@TC-sl8ol
@TC-sl8ol 21 день назад
I built Sauron like that, but he kept winning with the orcs as combat because I ran enough removal/protection.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 21 день назад
@@TC-sl8ol The orcs do get very big very fast
@jemm113
@jemm113 10 дней назад
One point for editing: it would be good to show the cards on screen as you mention them so people don’t have to tab and look them up as you discuss them. I like how you highlighted them in the decklist to show their concentrations, but doubling it with a cutaway or overlay to show some or all the cards mentioned, in full with name, art, and text, will add to the readability (and thus engagement) of the video. Regardless, that was an excellent primer on a frankly much better Sauron build than most I’ve seen! Keep up the good work, man!
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 10 дней назад
Appreciate the feedback. Will contemplate trying to work that in!
@zlwilson21
@zlwilson21 4 дня назад
As someone who upgraded the other Sauron precon and Rand it with this Sauron to dissatisfying results I definitely think this brew seems more promising and I will be looking to it for inspiration!
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 4 дня назад
Good luck! I wasn't a big fan of the Sauron precon, big fan of this Sauron though 😁
@jaysuede2627
@jaysuede2627 21 день назад
Hey, from one group arch to another, I say you need to have fun with it. Being the big bad creates pressure to grow, brings more out of your fellow players.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 21 день назад
I can definitely appreciate this If anything I see it as a fun reason to explore building various decks than a real problem
@veme2857
@veme2857 20 дней назад
Nice deck tech Grixis is truly the color combination of villains x)
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 20 дней назад
😈
@nickhughes8179
@nickhughes8179 13 дней назад
Smiles knowingly and evilly as I look at my Nekusar The Mindrazer deck, and it’s shiny new Orcish Bowmasters, Nightscape Familiar, Sulfuric Vortex, and Collective Defiance.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 13 дней назад
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@dynogreen
@dynogreen 2 дня назад
Can you explain which cards you would replace with the "Key Upgrades" ones? (If you suddenly decided to up its power level). I'm very indecisive when it comes to that.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 2 дня назад
It depends exactly which cards, but you can for the most part swap out something similar. Swap out You Find the Villain's Lair and Unwind for Swan Song and Fierce Guardianship. Swap out swamps for the nonbasic black lands, and swap out Mizzix Mastery in favour of Lier. Bowmasters if you have it can probably replace some removal like Dark Withering
@benturtl9076
@benturtl9076 18 дней назад
Very cool video. My sauron deck runs 9 nazguls aswell as a lot of ways to give my big beaters evasion. That can be my nazguls or the army. Also I naturally run some fling variants
@ItzRiku
@ItzRiku 16 дней назад
Could we get your decklist too?😊
@Kukyodragonfly
@Kukyodragonfly 8 дней назад
Very nice deck, though I was wondering why didn't you add March from the Black Gate? Seems like a good fit here.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 8 дней назад
Thank you! Glad you liked it. March from the black gate is great, but it doesn't synergize with our graveyard or spell slinger strategies at all, and more importantly, combat damage is our secondary win condition, so this card will do nothing, or be quite slow 99% of the time since we are typically hiding behind our orc army and need it as a blocker.
@rohacjustrohac3581
@rohacjustrohac3581 День назад
i feel like a boogeyman aswell, ive had a Reaper king player hold up a shapeshifter he could use to delete Felidar retreat of the Duskana, the Rage Mother and counter my Birthing pod which i wanted to use to search up enchantment removal to delete it from existance. He held his shapeshifter almost the entire game and casted it later into protection once we were alredy all dead facing Stampede of 11/11 cats and bears just becuse he was afraid of me doing something.
@baguetteboi5633
@baguetteboi5633 17 дней назад
Hey, cool vid! I'm using his amass ability as aristocrat fodder, while it is cool when people at the table can't cast spells without losing 6 life, it's incredibly incosistent and undermines ring temptation ability. I'm going to add the 9 Nazgul, althought keeping aristocrats foundations, anybody got any tips?
@Akwaz0
@Akwaz0 9 дней назад
Heeey that's m'y deck ! I did the same and wincons thing but with Saruman as commander. Might try Sauron, he's in the 99
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 8 дней назад
🤜🤛 Saruman is fantastic. Good luck with Sauron!
@megaraptor007
@megaraptor007 16 дней назад
This is an excellent deck. Been wanting to build this guy for a year but just wasnt sure how to do it. I wanted to do "oops all sauron" which will be funny, but i dont think its good so imma try this out
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 16 дней назад
Good luck 😁😁
@benjaminschmaderer6890
@benjaminschmaderer6890 20 дней назад
My Sauron list is a control one that focuses on making act of treason cards good. It plays lots of card draw, removal and counter spells, and then a couple sac outlets as well as conjurors closet and thassa which allow you to keep stolen creatures. Sauron provides a good beater to get in damage, sac fodder and a bit of draw if I really need it.
@TylerGoodwell
@TylerGoodwell 18 часов назад
Would love a deck list, I'm trying to get Sauron Dark Lord as close to full control as possible with Amass as the win con, either through straight damage with some light combo.
@legendtito20
@legendtito20 2 дня назад
What to replace for the $$ upgrade mr based?
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 2 дня назад
It depends exactly which cards, but you can for the most part swap out something similar. Swap out You Find the Villain's Lair and Unwind for Swan Song and Fierce Guardianship. Swap out swamps for the nonbasic black lands, and swap out Mizzix Mastery in favour of Lier. Bowmasters if you have it can probably replace some removal like Dark Withering
@kennyrazor81
@kennyrazor81 15 дней назад
no board wipe? and im not seeing an answer for artifacts either i got hit in a 4 player game with ensaring bridge
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 15 дней назад
Widespread Brutality, Immolating Gyre and Chandras Ignition all wipe the board, noting that the only time a board wipe is typically needed in this deck is when someone goes very wide. 95% of the time a 10/10 or bigger orc, and a 7/6 Sauron means people don't want to attack into you. Then as for artifact removal. That's true, but most artifacts don't hinder our strategy too much. In the case of Ensnaring Bridge, we don't need to attack, as we can easily end the game with our primary win conditions in Chandras, Gravitic Punch, or Soul's Fire.
@kennyrazor81
@kennyrazor81 15 дней назад
@@BasedDeckDept thank you that is fair, really appreciate the response as I dont contribute the time needed to learn new cards sigh... im old, im just checking out the dan-dan deck and im soooo intrigued a 25 year long magic friend told me about it on shuffle up and play prof/brian had rhystic studies on his show to show it and it looks fun. I used to be pooperdix ( pauper decks ) but changed my channel name to pirate homebrew and gaming.
@empty5013
@empty5013 21 день назад
no hate but you can say more than 4 syllables in a tow without pausing
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 21 день назад
I will try my best
@mobius3339
@mobius3339 18 дней назад
No hate, but you wrote tow instead of row.
@amaraleksandr2645
@amaraleksandr2645 День назад
Made this guy way harder to watch, great point
@CrapsGoodxD
@CrapsGoodxD 18 дней назад
Is the one ring not good with sauron? and/ or omniscience (im new)
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 18 дней назад
The One Ring and Omniscience are good in general, but I wouldn't say they are good with Sauron specifically. They can of course be added, but the one ring is very expensive and costs almost as much as this whole deck 😂 Omniscience is very slow, but could work well if we get it into play.
@CrapsGoodxD
@CrapsGoodxD 18 дней назад
@@BasedDeckDept cool yea ill probably just throw it in because il greedy, and I impulse bought the one ring since its so cool and I think/ hope it´s going to hold its value for a along time since it´s so good. And it doesn´t rotate out of any format right ?
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 18 дней назад
@@CrapsGoodxD Yeah look if you already have it, the one ring will make any deck stronger And yeah unless it gets banned, the ring is surely a good card to have.
@CrapsGoodxD
@CrapsGoodxD 18 дней назад
@@BasedDeckDept oh yea trueforgot about that. Do you think it is so broken it might get banned?
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 18 дней назад
@@CrapsGoodxD no I don't think so. It's strong, but it's not game breaking, especially in commander
@LapanNaxela
@LapanNaxela 18 дней назад
I feel like if you want to go the spell route saruman is a way stronger commander. I'd probably go the reanimation route with sauron personally
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 18 дней назад
Having played both, I think they're fairly similar, with different strengths. I think reanimation Sauron is great, and fun, noting there's almost no chance it's a $100 deck.
@poldosfamily2490
@poldosfamily2490 15 часов назад
Did you test this deck? How many games did it win? How did it perform? In what pods?
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 11 часов назад
Yeah I did. I've played the deck a whole bunch. Too much to go into detail of different pods, at varying deck strengths, but the win rate is high, winning at least half the games I've play with it. The deck is very resilient. I've pulled out a win copying chandras ignition 4 times and using Sauron as the target.
@poldosfamily2490
@poldosfamily2490 48 минут назад
@@BasedDeckDept I like this deck, and i think i will buy that. Needed some answers 👍🏻
@carlosrivera-ot9hf
@carlosrivera-ot9hf 6 дней назад
Please do your atla palani deck. 🙏
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 6 дней назад
Will do! My current one is far away from being budget. Would you prefer a budget build or the full cost one?
@carlosrivera-ot9hf
@carlosrivera-ot9hf 5 дней назад
Do the best budget one for the Chanel, and you can put your current in the description cause I’m curious on what your running 💪 ( I’m thinking on doing a atla one or your Sauron)
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 15 дней назад
I like this deck way better than my buddies ''boardwipe tribal'', guy just put in a bunch of boardwipes and called it a day, I did the same and rarely play against that deck LOL ;p
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 15 дней назад
Boardwipe tribal is such a bad time. Hopefully your friend decides they like having friends more than they like having boardwipes
@Panic_Wot
@Panic_Wot 15 дней назад
I went full flavour on my Sauron deck, and it was TERRIBLE. Easily my worst deck, despite the big expensive cards. This seems like a great re-tool of it. I'm keeping my Nazgul tho.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 15 дней назад
Have fun rebuilding your Sauron deck I have a nazgul deck with Lord of the Nazgul in the command zone. I think there's a high likelihood that I'll take it apart and make it a Sauron led nazgul reanimator build which I'll make a video about.
@SirFingleton
@SirFingleton 17 дней назад
look at my budget deck *uses the double rainbow dark lord*
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 16 дней назад
That's strange way of saying cheapest printing xoxo
@__-be1gk
@__-be1gk 7 дней назад
You are not on Star Trek you don't have to take a full second pause every 3-5 words
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 7 дней назад
How do you know I'm not on Star Trek?
@MageMinionsOP
@MageMinionsOP 21 день назад
Alright I'm a random dude on the Internet that doesn't make videos and your video popped up on my for you page. It's really hard to follow the video because your word pacing is so awkward. You constantly pause in the middle of the sentence like there's a period then continue a moment later. It's really distracting and I think you have a great voice for narrating and discussing mtg stuff, but read the sentence in full without pausing every 3-4 words. I'm gonna write an example and use periods to represent the paused to better explain what I'm saying. Saurahn is a cool. Commander to build. He can. Be played in many ways. I chose. To make big orc. Get big. By focusing on. Voltron. This helps. Trigger our commanders. Ability. Shit example but hopefully it helps fix the audio pacing.
@BasedDeckDept
@BasedDeckDept 21 день назад
Appreciate the feedback. Especially in such detail. Thanks!
@Wizi3lizz
@Wizi3lizz 17 дней назад
Just a tip, but every blue deck needs a cyclonic rift and a rhystic study (among other cards) or it'll be a worse deck. EVERY deck needs the One Ring or it'll be a worse deck. That's just the law of EDH and the nature of staple cards. Try not to say that these cards are not what a deck needs, because you'd be just outright factually wrong. Period. It's not a "not everyone is as tryhard or competitive as you" thing... It's a "existence of gravity" and "concept of time" thing. It's just how it is. Secondly, it looks like people on edhrec prefer to have the army BEFORE they cast the commander so they don't have to wait to use his effects. Also it's on flavor with the commander to go wraith/goblin/orc tribal anyway. I don't think calling it sub-optimal is a good idea either. It seems to me that people just want to squeeze value out of their 6-drop commander as soon as possible in fear of losing him to a board wipe/removal spell soon after. Those are my thoughts on it.
@ich3730
@ich3730 14 дней назад
I mean, its not factually wrong to say "Not every deck needs X staple". It depends on context. The goal of casual EDH often is not winning, but curating a flavorful deck. While my blue farm deck definitly needs dockside extortionist or cyclonic rift, my "big tiddy tribal" list ( build for an enviroment with similarly whacky themes ) has no use for anything without booba.
@Wizi3lizz
@Wizi3lizz 14 дней назад
@@ich3730 The C in cEDH doesn't mean casual, it means competitive. Odds are if you are looking up cards on EDHREC then you're not casual enough for those who do not need to. Rhystic Study and Cyclonic rift aren't just deck staples either. They're a staple's staple, thus not included in your equations. I'm almost inclined to say you should have more cyclonic rifts in your deck than islands. I hope you understand my point of view.
@dynogreen
@dynogreen 2 дня назад
Ok, hold up... "existence of gravity"?... "concept of time"... what drugs are you on, this isn't quantum physics, it's magic the gathering. A cardboard card game. And this deck my dude is a BUDGET deck, it's power lvl is low/mid for a reason. It stands to exist for situations where the play group is craving a lower power game. You are not going to play against people running cyc rifts, dockside's, rhystic studies, shock lands, pay 1 life fetch lands, because you are going to have a power lvl conversation with your play group to determine a mutual and respectable power level that is fair before you start a EDH match. Best case senario you already had this converstaion with your play group and everyone made a budget deck (ex. $50-$100) with those parameters set in place. Then you can all easily have a sideboard with some more heat (like "Key Upgrades" in this video) to cycle in if the power level wants to be pumped a little bit more.
@Wizi3lizz
@Wizi3lizz 2 дня назад
@@dynogreen You ain't gonna spout shit here pretending that you don't know what an analogy is. The age rating for Magic is 13+ and you're either younger than that or you learned nothing from school. I was using an analogy to express that what I was arguing was indisputable... Yet here you are, failing to dispute. Let me try and simplify it for you. The guy spent the first half of the video going off on why expensive GOOD cards are not needed and that EDHREC is wrong for using them in the Sauron deck. Fuck the budget, he's just outright WRONG. Every deck needs these cards because they are best in slot, they are simply (hopefully simple enough for you) simply the best cards in Magic the Gathering. Period. Done. You refuse to use them? Your deck is wrong. Just wrong. INDISPUTABLY wrong. Jeweled Lotus and Mana crypt are not insanely expensive for shits and giggles, they're expensive because almost EVERY commander deck needs them PERIOD. They're just THAT good. I'm not saying budget decks are wrong, if you can't afford the cards that's fine. But saying that using the expensive GOOD cards is wrong and then saying "here is my budget deck, it's BETTER than what EDHREC says because those GOOD cards are not necessary" is just blatantly wrong. Lastly, Rule 0 as been proven to do nothing and power level convos are a joke. Never rule 0, just lend a deck to a friend that matches your deck. If they are set on playing what they built, then they need to live with their "budget" choices.
@poldosfamily2490
@poldosfamily2490 15 часов назад
@@Wizi3lizzmate this is a real toxic behaviour… People can have fun with 20$ decks and well built commanders. Obv staples mana rocks and counters are the best in slot, but the average mtg player doesnt play those, and when you play casual edh you just stick to that.
@Niviuz
@Niviuz 16 дней назад
just want to add, your speaking...... waiting.... and then..... talking seem..... almost........ arogant or....... even slightly...... pomopus..........and quite..........annnoying......to listen to.......
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