dude im in love with your reviews, but it would be super helpful if you could provide us with the charts or even stats from your reviews and testing somewhere, for example creating an image dump on your website that is titled what they are and is searchable by the title, but thank you so much for the reviews, I've probably watched 30 of them at this point lol
Your dedication to testing numerous laptops for us general consumers just shows how passionate you guys are with sharing what's the best for us. Please keep up this quality as your videos do make a big difference in the tech community, especially for us students.
Bought a Slim 7x and a X1 carbon both configured about the same. Sent the X1 back. The Yoga is going to Africa on Safari with me. My "big" laptop is an MSI Z16 with an i9 and 32GB RAM. My Desktop is built i7 with 64GB RAM. So far the Yoga does 90% of what the other two do albeit a little slower. Biggest down as a wildlife photographer, is that the Yoga runs LR and PS native, but LrC in emulation. The Yoga has a hard time with the AI Sharpening and noise reduction in all the above plus Luminar Neo, and Topaz PAI and DxO PR4 don't run at all. Just my $0.02. Love your reviews.
Thank you for posting that power efficiency graph at 1:58! That's so useful to compare chips and tells so much more than just the maximum benchmark scores that many reviewers post.
I'm so far extremely happy with my 13.8 inch Surface Laptop 7 with X Plus. For someone who has a gaming desktop, it's a perfect companion device for mobile work and browsing. I would be happy to have better gaming performance and compatibility, and generally I might prefer to have a Zen 5 architecture device, but as a whole package it's incredible. For the first time in my life I actually enjoy using the trackpad, even clicking on it. Previously I couldn't imagine not wanting to use a mouse with a laptop, but this is just perfect. Also, it feels super fast & snappy for general use. :)
Same. Got a monster desktop for heavy work and gaming. Got a macbook air m1, a lenovo yoga slim 7 with an older ryzen chip that i have linux on, and i got myself the new slim 7x snapdragon. I just love the snapdragon laptop. I set it to the lowest powermode and it lasts all day. Fans never spin. Never gets hot, and i can even do some gaming with auto SR and the laptop never gets warm.
I bought the Yoga Slim 7x with 1TB storage and 32gb of memory. I'm going to agree with the points brought up in the video about the strengths and weaknesses of this laptop. I don't play games as heavily as i used to, and i mainly use it for office tasks, but having a battery that can last 2 days is just too good. I never have to worry about finding a place to charge the thing, use it a full day, then just charge it for 2 hours or less at home to get a full battery again. The ports being only 3 Usb-c ports was a bit disheartening, but with cloud storage being an option now and having a USB hub, it isn't that big of an issue. I do think the track pad is too big because i often end up touching it while typing, and my hands aren't that big (I can reach a ninth on the piano, but not tenth). It was a damn good purchase for the price! Great video, and thanks for helping me justify my purchase 😂
I have the same model. It works pretty well so far, but after 1 week Windows Hello just stopped working. Until 1-2 days ago, each time I would wake it from sleep, the performance was there, but now apps are laggy. Also, this is a horrible keyboard, feels cheap and the backlight bleeds and is too bright.
Hey josh, heres a really cool idea for your website. if you standardise all the battery and performance tests across all the laptops you test, it would be really great if there was a section in your website to compare several laptops battery, performance, power draw, or efficiency through graphs and the data that you have collected. i know it could be hard to implement, but this is just an idea ;)
We will get there. Its definitely something that is in our back log. We have alot of new features to implement. Right now we are massaging our data so that we can import it into the website. We actually have the ability to compare stats between laptops, the feature is dormant as we are getting the data in.
Does anybody else get put off by the offset track pad? it really does put me off buying a device no matter how good it is, the aesthetics is part of it but the functionality just seems reduced by it.
Tried all the laptops at Best Buy, and the Surface was definitely the best all-around. The only drawback was the non oled display. The yoga felt cheaper, especially with the track pad.
@gudlutripathy3283 Samsung was nice. I think it's the best of both worlds (surface and yoga). If you want an oled screen with premium build quality, go with the 16in version. Otherwise, I would still go with the surface for 13-15in. Unless you want the samsung ecosystem.
I’m thinking about getting the Lenovo 7x. So I was wondering if people could put anything that they might’ve not mentioned in the video about it. I’ve previously been a MacBook Air user (intel).
Great video. Yet to see Qualcomm laptops in India. Don't know why they even start at 1500$ with Lenovo and asus. Adding 32GB and 1TB SSD pushes the price to 2000$ with only 1yr of warranty. As always Dell and HP once again proved their thermal design is the issue and not the CPU x86 or arm
i got yoga slim 7x with 32gb ram and 1tb storage, so happy to return to windows after macos (since M1), the only thing that i'm missing is that it doesn't run android apps... 😔 I've read that Surface are coming with wsa, which doesn't work, but some guys still found a way to make it work, it just not work for the laptops that doesn't have the wsa at all... Hope someone make it work for these too, soon... 🤞
I had purchased the Lenovo Slim 7x but cancelled my order. I looked at the Surface Laptop 15" but it was taking a long time to launch in Singapore. Eventually got the Asus Zen 5 S16 - since its my main notebook - I think I made a great choice here.
Although the port selection on the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x with 3 USB-C ports might seem limited, it actually offers the most in terms maximum bandwidth and maxes out the Snapdragon X Elite spec, all 3 ports are USB4 (40Gb) ports.
@@alexanderruchkov7629 I don't have a 4k120 to test with but it works with 4k60. I tried a Dell 5120x2160 60Hz display and it ran it at 30Hz. But an LG 5120x2160 72Hz display ran at 50Hz. Actually I just remembered my projector is 4k120 so I'll give it a try with that soon. Will need a 4k120 HDMI 2.1 to USB-C adapter.
@@davidneale530 i got lg c2 4k@120hz so this is kinda a deal breaker with all these last gen laptops. Only m3 or, upcoming m4 chips have this capability or some 4070 laptops, but they have abysmal battery life, ohhhh... here we go again
Bought the Lenovo slim 7x and very happy with it. Battery life has been great but I always fail to believe it and end up charging as I worry I will be without a charge. But it goes through the whole day for me. Only con for me is it’s a bit of a fingerprint magnet otherwise it’s thin, lightweight and performs really well for my Office apps and web based applications.
I just bought a vivobook s15 with 32gb ram. It runs so nice and smooth. My biggest issue is im disappointed in copilot. I'm struggling with the decision to keep the laptop or return it. Like i said it runs super smooth. I run ttrpgs online and this can easily handle Foundry for me. Sure my ram use is close to 50% most of the time, but that's fine. I can save a lot of money by getting an intel laptop with 16gb of ram and am trying to make up my mind aa to which way i will go.
Great comparison video, as always. Would be great if you could compile a list of ARM native apps for Windows and publish it on your website. This way we can always stay up-to-date with the latest ARM apps available for Windows. Also, I know that the Surface Pro 11 is not a "laptop" and more of a 2-in-1 device, but it's still a Windows PC. Maybe you can review it as well along with the other Copilot+ devices.
In my personal experience, the Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Edge has had firmware updates completely updating the palm rejection issues that plagued it when it came out, this is now a complete non-issue based on my own unit.
I love that the staff are all taking turns behind the camera. I think Sierra (or Cierra?) did an 8.5 out of 10, especially considering that I don't recall seeing her behind the camera before (maybe i just missed it though). The small critiques i would have are that perhaps she can project a little more; her voice trails off just a little at the end of a sentence; and she goes a little fast when talking about technical things like computer specs. With that said, she is an outstanding communicator, is very engaging and her appreciation for technology just bleeds through (you can't fake that). Anyway, thanks for another great video JJ and team.
Solid vid, ayyo Cierra absolutely carried the video, excellent breakdown of laptops and honestly I will keep these in mind when I look for one in the future. Looking forward to seeing more vids from y'all
RU-vid laptop reviews in a nutshell we used a laptop a few times so we know them really well. The people who know yhem really well are the real users and the repairs shops for which people come to with broken hinges.
I bought the Samsung Book Edge w/ the Snapdragon X Elite. Good laptop overall, but sucky heat management. I find it stutters when I have multiple programs for extended periods of time like MS, RU-vid, Slack, Skype and web. It feels like Samsung has not tuned it well. I am thinking of switching to the Microsoft Surface 7 w/ the Snapdragon X Plus. I feel Windows should run better on its native environment.
Yeah, sometimes that happens with Snapdragon laptops in general although the Slim 7x and Surface are a bit better. It may be that some program you have in the background installed isn't running natively and consuming more resources. If you do buy please try to use a link from our website, it helps grow the channel
@@thecryptoguy-je6rh You may want to get a Zen 5 laptop instead. That is less likely to have such issues. Same with an Apple laptop. My Surface as a whole has been good, but occasionally may have some slow downs or get warm when charging for example. They have stuff to iron out
I have the Thinkpad T14s 12core snapdragon, 32GB ram, 1TB nvme. I liked it over the other Lenovo's, because of the port options, and correct location of the FN key. It's as quick to render video(h.264) as any nvidia equipped(3050 mobile, or ARC) xps I've used, but absolutely cannot scrub through video without proxies. I know it was never designed to do this. I just went with this option as all the other Intel/AMD options felt like an iteration from last year, in the same case(because they are).
I had lots of glitches with my surface laptop 7. Setup: Two 23" 1080p/60hz monitors connected by surface dock 2. -Often found computer under full load when in sleep mode (fans running full speed and computer very warm to touch). -Resuming from sleep had changed resolution to one monitor often, and unplugging plugging back in sometimes worked. -Microsoft native ARM apps struggled to open/work at all. Looking at you Teams (ARM) app. Can anyone else confirm if they have had these experiences? I experienced these issues for 5 weeks. I'm mainly interested in while machine is connected to external displays, as I don't see many people comment on this.
@@JustJoshTech nice, looking forward to it! I have just one question in the meantime because I cant wait a week (: which is a better pick (as a software dev) the hp spectre 14-inch or the px13?
Blunt honest. No bullshit. To the point. Amazing amazing amazing great review. Actually the only honest review I see. My 10 years old also loves Josh and the girl. Simple English. ❤
Perfect test! I can't wait to see what others OEMs can do with Ryzen AI and, in a month or so, what Intel can achieve with Lunar Lake. I hope they can deliver what they're aiming for, i need to upgrade my laptop but Windows on Arm isn't where it needs to be for my needs, so X Elite laptops are out of my radar, it will be either a Ryzen AI or Core Ultra 200 powered pc.
Hey josh, been a long time viewer. I am a bit troubled as to which lappy i should buy myself, asus rog strix 16 or legion pro 5i, could you maybe try to review them too( i couldnt find them) and should I be buying a HX processor laptop?
Hey Josh. I am going to start studying computer science this summer, and for that i need a computer. I cant afford the New Zenbook S 16, but i can afford the New Vivobook S 16 with Ryzen 9 AI 365 with 32 gb of ram. It costs 1600 dollars here in Danmark. I will be using it to run virtual machines, networking and so on. Would you recommend that i buy it?
Hey Josh. I got a deal on the Galaxy Book 14 edge for 750. I really wanted to get the Surface Laptop 7 13.8, but they are still 900 dollars or more. Should i get it at that price or wait till the Surface drops?
Will the Lenovo be good for having a lot of tabs open at once, having my notion database open, and writing on a couple of Word documents? (All at once)
Hi Josh, thanks for the countless reviews. Which laptop do you thinķ is best for a cloud engineer, and programmer. Pls name an apple product and non apple products.
Thanks for another great and insightful video! I still don't quite understand the practical implications of poor gpu performance (except for gaming). I'm considering the 15" Surface for work usage. It's mostly web apps on Chrome and Figma desktop app. But: I might have 50 Chrome tabs open at the same time running things like Google Sheets, Google Slides, Google Analytics, Miro etc. My current XPS13 from 2021 can get very sluggish with Chrome using 90% of gpu there. Would I have the same issue with these Snapdragon laptops? Considering that their performance is better but gpu underwhelming.. 🤔
look I trust dave2d on this and he says at least the vivo book s15 with snap dragon x elite runs nearly all of these apps you speak of in emulation with just a slight degradation of perfomance.. He does not emphasize the downside as strongly as you do, and seem much more excited about the potential of these new chips overall
How many people know how to switch to performance mode? Should we have performance on default / balance mode? I always stick with balance mode, but I am surprised as I found my Vivobook SD XE default is at efficient mode.
Instead of dropping a fast vid, I love that Josh took the time to actually test the laptops out and give proper advise for us. Thanks! I am personally waiting for the intel lunar lake laptops to come out. I really hope you would make a video then in the same fashion as this one to help us buy a new device!
Thinking of maxing out 13.8 inch surface with 32 gigs of ram and 1td of hd. Seeing this video discouraged me a bit. Want something that can breeze through heavy excels and raw dslr photo editing (hobby). What do you think? Don’t want 15inch coz portability is important too.
I haven’t watched this yet, but just to say thank you as I like the snapdragon platform for my needs (ton of office work and reporting analysis). That being said I already have one so this will be a review of my decision!
The Dell Laptop has a 64gb and 1Tb option, autodesk min is 16gb and recommended 32gb ram. The autodesk has a AI NPU interface option, which the reason I am purchasing a laptop is the NPU and its applications to software. Is there a difference from 32gb using Autodesk software, or getting 64gb having a 32gb buffer. is there a Desktop with the NPU chip included. would the 64gb have higher heat problem? Fan Noise means nothing for me, having a laptop that doesn't have a cooling problem means a lot for me.
On the audio comparison, idk how you quantify which one has the best to worst audio but at least you should arrange them in the order of best to worst😅
1:56 I am quite surprised that the new AMD Ryzen AI processors offer similar performance to Snapdragon at the same wattage, but their battery life is much worse than Snapdragon. Maybe AMD needs better tuning or drivers to improve the efficiency during light tasks on Windows. Given these useful graphs, I would expect a video that compares the processors with each other in terms of battery life and performance at different power levels. With this efficiency of the new Ryzen AI processors, going for Snapdragon may not be worth due to its compatibility issues and low graphics performance. What's also important is that, the Snapdragon processors may slow down GUI animations, scrolling, or window management operations (like the Task View) when multiple high-resolution monitors are used.
I want the surface laptop 15 but I play games and edit video and don't want it as a secondary device to my daily driver. I hope MS give us a 16 inch snapdragon that can edit video and smash games. Maybe the Surface book or studio will make a return
I have the 13" microsoft one. Its beautiful and overall great. Only problem is x86 emulation doesnt work for hardware drivers - so lots of accessories like printers either dont work or fall back to crappy generic drivers No auprise the HP stinks thier consumer products are often soooo bad The only game i play is civ6 and it works great. I really like the 3x2 screen for doing software development
Josh, during the day I suck up the information you put out and during the night, I am listening to your soothing voice to fall asleep! You are a staple in my household
I still feel like if you can only have 1 laptop and there are some ambitions of even morerete gaming or video editing and such they are not worth it. I still appreciate that the ultra low end market is being undercut, so maybe Intel and amd will have to price their chips lower or focuss more on laptops that more powerful
What is the point of doing all those benchmarks and comparison based on performance when the final recommendation is to use it for light tasks like office, web and movie watching. Intel and amd processors from 3 years ago can do these tasks equally well. I think the target audience is much better served by finding a heavily discounted version of premium laptops from 2 or 3 years ago. The only hit will be battery life.
Are the new generation of Ryzen AI processors capable of running AI features, such as live captions, like Snapdragon processors? And, about the battery, Ryzen AI processors are similar with ARM processors?
I love the promise of these ARM SoCs but far more software desperately needs to be ported over to Windows on ARM. It's bad enough that I'd suggest that Microsoft just give away dev tools or flat out pay developers to port their apps over. Yes, it's not an ideal move for MS' balance sheet in the short term, but if they don't do something drastic it's gonna take a very long time (if ever) for WoA to be any sort of real competition for Apple's MacOS.
I bought the vivobook s 15, the x elite variant. I'm a student, and wasn't really expecting serious performance from these machines. Clubbed with the fact that in India, only the x elite version is available (of the vivobook), and at the time of purchase, only asus had released their devices in the Indian market, I went with it, though, if given a choice, I would have opted for the samsung galaxy book 4 edge 16. Also, we get free lifetime version of office 2021 home and student, which is not available on any other models here.
Samsung really dropped the ball when they failed to introduce their Snapdragon line without 2-in-1 capability. The Samsung Notes application is a brilliant bit of work and adds a lot of value to the Samsung brand. Without 2-in-1 capability, the Samsung Notes app for handwriting is useless on their laptops. It isn't as though Samsung would have to reinvent new tech. They already had the chassis, hinge and software. All they had to do was deliver the 2-in-1 competitive edge that would have made their Snapdragon offering a must have, particularly for those already invested in the Samsung ecosystem. As it stands, I skipped the Samsung offering and went with the 13" Microsoft Surface laptop. Great device and would be even better if I could use Microsoft Journal. Sadly, while the Microsoft laptop is a very high quality device, it suffers the same handwriting limitation as all of the other Snapdragon devices.
OK, what if I get the OLED XPS 13 for $1100 out the door? Would the XPS be part of the top list then? I had the Slim 7X (build and color are terrible) and Surface Pro (did not like that I had to pay 1500 and did not include a keyboard or pen!)
MacOS 8gb ram is not the same as win11 8gb ram. You can run macOS with 8gb ram perfectly fine for normal office work, but it is very dump in win11 especially some ram is set for vram which cannot be used for the system therefore 16gb ram is the minimum required.
I know these are ARM chips but surely AMD have the power to combine these with Nvidia GPU's to get into the gaming side when needed and then more Macbook Pro qualities when not
The speaker test is one of the best Ive ever come across period. Customers should absolutely wait before buying these. The lack of compatibility is purely dreadful. Also...Waiiiiitttttttttiiiiinnnnngggg for the galaxy book 4 pro 16 inch😅😅.
Dave2d says the s16 is awesome with great battery life, and he is not as reserved or critical of these chips as you are on this channel. I think you should check out Dave2d assessment of the Snapdragon X elite, especially for the price point and not comparing apples and oranges.
