If you're looking for something good to try, check out Jupiter the Nexus Incident. Currently about two or three dollars/euros. It's old enough that it'll run on a smart phone but it's lots of fun and a lot of fun when you get the hang of it.
I remember following this game back in 2008-2009 when it was still Infinity: The Quest for Earth. The CTO, Flavien Brebion, is an absolute genius. He wrote the entire engine from scratch and had seamless transitions from planet to space and a full procedural planet generation system back in 2008. I'm so happy to see that they have a gameplay experience to match because the tech underlying it is a MASTERPIECE.
I remember seeing that first video of the ship going into the planet. It was truly unprecedented. People look at No Man’s Sky and Star Citizen now and think it’s amazing but I think Infinity demo was truly the first to show what’s possible with procedural generation in space.
I just found this video in my recommendations very near the top. I have never heard of this RU-vidr, and this is the first video of his videos I have seen. I had been looking for a good space game, and while I was looking I sated the urge for a space Sim by playing Space Engineers. Frequently I would use RU-vid and Star Citizen to help me model the ships, so I wasn't surprised to see your video while scrolling, and liked the model of the ship you had in the thumbnail. I paused to watch a bit, and within seconds of your commentary of the game I knew this is the space game I was looking for. The ships are beautiful, and I love how sleek and powerful they looked. The weapons looked impactful and the scale of everything was awesome. I plan on getting this ASAP, and I'll add my searches to the algorithm, with any luck they can put all that marketing money in the game and "Recommended" can do all their marketing for them lol.
lol same here. I heard about this project years and years ago when it was first anounced, they talked a lot about having not just combat but also logistics gameplay invovled, that ships would need to bring resources from mining locations to production locations in order to generate ship tickets, so fights would develop over control and distribution of resources etc. I've had it on my Steam wishlist since it was first available and just hadnt picked it up because I didn't really know what state it was in, I had got the impression that it had kinda died, didn't really have any of the logistics gameplay and there wasn't much to do without other people to play with. I've burned through most of the content in Star Citizen (it's an alpha, still not a ton of actual content there yet), can't really get into NMS, and have needing something to scratch that space combat sim itch. Here's hoping it has HOTAS and TrachIR support for the fighter combat that isn't awful? lol, and hopefully we get a fun logistics system someday. the algorithm is creepy.... it knows what we want and can get us to spend money with an appropriately timed video recommendation.....
If this had something else besides the combat alone I'd be interested. For me, battle for the sake of battle gets old fast. I need some sort of meta or reason to play the battles over and over again.
Think I get what you guys are saying, something that's entirely skirmish focused. Do agree that even some basic overworld gameplay would enhance the battles greatly. Like a campaign showing chosen number factions fighting for control over entire star sectors and which are controlled by who and which ones are currently in conflict. So if you attack a enemy controlled area you are launching an attack and if it's a conflict area you are join them mid battle to help turn the tides. Then of course goal is to take over the entire map with your faction. Doesnt even need to replace the standard skirmish type gameplay. Tons of game have both campaigns and skirmish gameplays as base. Hell that so small to implement someone would be able to even mod that into the game.
I think a sort of planetside in space would make sense, where you can get ships/weapons etc from bases/stations/areas that you capture. create a bit of a tug of war and a somewhat strategic layer.
@@Sevensup I think that they should also add in landings for NPC battles on the ground to take place, or a new objective like protect troop transports. I REALLY like the game as how it is, and if there is a way to spectate while pitting AI against each other while you can just watch, then I would love to see those kinds of NPC battles. A funny idea I thought of is if the AI is just as good as modern military, thus making battles not only realistic, but can lead to crazy moments where the players might need to try and avoid getting closed in and getting obliterated. I love hearing about good AI.
Hey I really appreciate it! I'm reducing my college workload soon, so I can work on more quality videos that I enjoy. I may do a video update in the future
Hey Fuzy, your review really got some traction, 91k views at the time of this comment. Some points of clarification for topics covered in the video. "Copied From Flavien's response on our Discord server" - 1000 players per server is very theoretical, it's technically possible but we've never had that kind of playercount to even test it - on marketing: you're right on the fact that we aren't do much marketing, and that we plan to do more during our 1.0 release. However we're also a very small team on a tight budget, so it's definitely going to be limited in scope. Hopefully some bigger streamers/media will pick it up - on gameplay, just a small point: the ships aren't locked at all, or more exactly they cost SP (ship points) which you receive over time - The unlocks for upgrades/weapons are using persistent credits, which you earn for destroying ships/objectives That said, thanks for reviewing the game, overall great vid, short and to the point. :) Cheers!
@@Islow86. yeah, it's a pretty niche market but they did make the most solid capital ship battle game. Not to mention the amazing art direction. Every ship felt different.
Just wanted to say I'm glad I found your video. I actually backed this game back in 2015 on kickstarter and completely forgot about it for 7 years. When I looked it up on Steam, it was already in my library. Weird feeling honestly, got a special early backer skin and everything. Going to go play the game for the first time. Feels weird, and thanks again haha.
@@Sevensup Their engine being scratch-made is both a blessing and a curse, they can really really hone in the game-feel to be spot on for this type of game and can have a lot of impressive and unique tech that enhances gameplay but it also takes an insane amount of work to get an original engine like this to the point where the actual gameplay can be implemented. They are finally at the step of gameplay features going in and all these years of tech development can now start bringing in the benefits.
Saw the thumbnail and was luted in because it looked so much like a Federal Corvette from Elite Dangerous. This game looks awesome, and as a former combat pilot in Elite this is right up my alley. Definitely has been added to the wishlist.
This game's on screen HUD is almost an exact copy from Freespace 1 & 2, the greatest space opera in history. This brings back memories... Nostalgia galore!
If they could add a PvE campaign mode similar to galactic conquest that was singleplayer/coop to this game at some point I think it would attract more people especially if it was done well.
If you count the space engine creation the development of this lasts more than 20 yrs actually. I was hoping for a lot more back in 2004 because the engine has so much more potential than just a shooter but the devs realized they cannot do this so just a shooter it is.
They're actually still hoping to make Quest for Earth a reality. Battlescape is a proof of concept and technology development platform. If it sells well, they want to make their MMO Infinity The Quest for Earth a reality.
This looks pretty interesting. I see a lot of people commenting about how they want more than just space battles, but if there's a market for FPS games where the only thing people on PCs do is play deathmatch after deathmatch after deathmatch in spite of a host of other game modes, I think this game will do well even if it's just about straight-up combat. Having said that, fighting for something other than personal prestige would add more depth and dimension to this game, but I don't want it to be a fully-fledged "space life simulator" either where people get so distracted with the non-combat side of things that they don't have time to sign up for matches.
It's not a space truck simulator for sure haha. I would much rather have a really good space combat game, compared to a game like SC that's trying to do too many things and force them to work together
@@Sevensup I will never, ever play Star Citizen. It's a decade-old tech demo that somehow managed to rake in, what, half a billion dollars as of this year? And it still has no retail offering? They can't just finish one or two things, release it, and then work on future stuff as expansions? Real shady stuff going on there. lol
Appreciate the video! I literally was just looking for a space based shooter that felt something like planetside. This sounds like it's that exactly, love just what you've shown, bots or players it looks amazing. I'm getting this shortly and I'll shoot for those higher ranks as well!
It has great sound design and controls, the feel of flying was pretty good and definitely up there with the best of space sims. When I tried it, it kind of felt hollow, and I am not sure the ranking system is enough of an incentive to keep me occupied. Somehow combat was not enough, I need a bit of flying missions and general mission variety, as well as better feel for the overall "war" progression--that's what they are going for after all. (I mean between the small mission that I select to do and the general faction situation in the system).
I've followed Infinity for over a decade at this point and trust me, when Battlescape released and you had combat groups, it was amazing. The coordination of just a small squadron or even joining into bigger flotillas made combat much more exciting. I haven't actually played in a while. Back then, there was no customization whatsoever, just hop into a ship and go. Maybe I should check back in.
@@Megarith1to3 Thanks for your input, yeah, I imagine group play fills that void nicely. Not many people (if at all) when I tried it. But even so, I wish the overall war situation would occasionally make me really want to do a logistics mission because I could see we need it. That sort of interplay, that leads also to mission variety. Rather than fleet battle all the time until eyes pop. :)
@@Spelljammer1 I remember last time I played it although you couldn’t run supply missions yourself you could target enemy ai cargo freighters and if successful in destroying them it would hurt enemy point income.
@@Spelljammer1 also you can initiate a base attack on your own if you want to as long as you have at least one capital in your group when commencing the attack.
@@Shadow-bk1im okay thanks, those are all good points. Sounds like it started to develop in a way I was hoping for. I might give it another try when I have a free weekend.
Holy shit! Colour me interested! Thanks so much for the heads up on this, I’m definitely picking it up. Kudos to the team for taking a really mature “stealth” approach to launching this game, as a long time gamer I really appreciate that and will reward this with a purchase.
It's a hidden gem that I've been following for years, and it's so underrated. So few players, I log in once a month and it's really rare to be more than 6players per server...
@@jatzi1526 With that logic you'd think planetside 2 would be dead by now. Something else might be the cause for this, my guess a lack of advertisement.
@@jatzi1526 To be fair this is made by a tiny team relying on kickstart to get by while planetside 2 is made by a large company that had a lot of experience under their belt from prior work.
So, I just got it and played it because of this video. So much fun and as a PS2 player, I get it! Only 2 people, but it didn't feel like it. Callsign is Scanner.
It's interesting that you mention star citizen, because star citizen devs are slowing combat down for the combat flight model, and it looks like infinity battlescape has a slowed-down flight model as well. Very cool looking game, I will have to check it out.
Not many people know this, but Infinity Battlescape is a prototype for Infinity: The Quest for Earth. Beginning development all the way back in the mid 2000's, Quest for Earth was to be a sandbox MMO with a procedurally generated universe, 100% to scale with seamless space-to-ground transitions. No Man's Sky is a much less ambitious version of Infinity: the Quest for Earth since it uses reduced scales for planets and distances. I have no idea what ever happened to I:QfE. The team has always been small, and Battlescape was originally built as a proof of concept on a single solar system scale. 15 years later, I still hold out hope that we will see them build their version of No Man's Sky, Elite Dangerous, and Star (Scam) Citizen. But I have no clue if it's in the cards.
I'm so glad this game is picking up traction and players now. I picked it up really early on and the player base was incredibly small. There would be times I'd be on servers on my own or with maybe 2 other people so it just basically became a bot match (could also be because I'm in the EU). The core concept of the game then was still solid, the gameplay itself at that point, was a tad directionless. Roll on to today and its taking shape nicely. As mentioned by others, it has a Planetside vibe to it which is the main thing that drew me to the game. Still love flying around in a fighter to dogfight and intercept bombers, or fly in a support ship to act as an ammo top up and gunship.
Bought this a year or so ago from watching a similar video and was hyped as seemed to offer everything i'd want in a space game. Was a bit hesitant due to the high price but in the end decided to pick it up. Found the UI very difficult to work around with little to no direction in way of a tutorial. So launched into first battle in a fighter and yes the battles can be quite epic, but that's all it was a jukebox of quick space battles in a never ending loop, with little to hold you or engage interest. I did join the discord for awhile and read the same promises back then that are on the Steam page today, the same questions that appear following everytime the games on sale. Any ideas or suggestions in way of feedback were quickly dismissed. After awhile I uninstalled the game and it sits there to this day. I really hope that the epic vision these devs envisage eventually arrives as may reinstall it at that point.
@@Sevensup Absolutely yes, the flying aspect of the game was for the most part there and the Bots themselves were decent enough not to be a factor. It's where you go from there that most of these games fall down after for me personally. Most go the way of increasing your ships weapon and shield abilities there after it just turns into a turkey shoot. Elite Dangerous did this with Arena. I'd agree some marginal improvement in engine boost time and laser temps say wouldn't skew it too much but if that gap becomes too wide, it just kills it. At the end of the day if I was to say to you - there's a war going on. You are more than likely to ask who's fighting and why. Then pick a side that aligns with you and look to play your part in gaining ground and have some indication on the map as where the key points are, gains and losses etc. Something to draw you in to the world more, but maybe that isn't the game they're making ?
I remember years ago when they were launching the engine prototype and because the development was so slow, No Mans Sky, Star Citizen and even Elite Dangerous catched up and launched. They had an crowdfunding to make the game bigger (to have trades, quests and stuff) but only the combat goal was reached. It still stayed barebones for quite a while, with the company even trying to push for an space simulation engine to other projects/games so they could raise more funds. All in all, im glad that almost 10 years later the game finally took shape.
This game is interesting in concept. I need to keep this on my wislist so I can remember it once it finally comes out of Early Access ...and save up some money.
The oldest galaxy in the Universe has a big circle of solid rock around its central black hole. Some videos show it on RU-vid. It would be great in computer space games, very spectacular.
It launched quite some time back to tons of hype.. picked it up and it was quite fun massive system to fight in.. but was bare bones and the player base left.. and still dont look like its returned. Just jumped on after seeing this and there was 6 people on the UE server prime time.. still hopefully with more videos like this more people will jump on.
It is! They will start advertising it more when it closer to their planned release date. I'm unsure when that will be...but hopefully within the next year or two
@@Sevensup I seriously hope so too. I picked it up right away after seeing this video and while the population is still a bit sparce, I had an absolute blast playing it! Thank you for showing this to the world, the devs really did a good job
this game needs logistics gameplay and a war system similar to foxhole to keep players interested, where you fight for control of the map and its resources to make more stuff to destroy the enemy and win the war.
Thank you for making this video. It's a relief to see some space combat games are still being developed that do not try to simulate the whole universe while taking the next 5 decades of development. Definitely going to get a copy on the next sale.
This is the combat that I really wanted for Elite Dangerous. I also wanted to see battle aftermath salvage missions. This game looks really cool and had combat that Elite Dangerous missed out.
seeing how slow you are flying (less than 600 mps) that makes sense since in SC ships fly up to 1000 Mps and it explains why they are slowing down the combat speeds
Last night I had a dream about space ships battles and games. Not because I watch too much anime about space... Anyways thanks for the review I'll look into it.
I bought this game when it came on steam, I keep checking on it waiting for the day when it finally gets the players it needs to really kick off. I Love the Corvette
Gotta say with the range on torpedos being 100km it doesn’t really make much sense to use anything. If they hit they do way more damage then any other weapon and have much longer range. I find every time I try to close the gap I just end up getting blasted by larger guns from multiple capital ships for no reward. Hell it seems like torpedos only arm and start to track after a few Kilometers anyway, so going in close is just usually a bad idea.
If this game ever gets advertising to start drawing players in, this game will definitely pick and become a great deal more fun. I spent a couple weeks playing a couple hours in the morning and a couple during prime time (US central) almost every day, and at most I only ever saw 2 other players. Most of the time it was just me. The AI definitely does a good job of keeping things interesting, but it's so much more satisfying to be engaging with a friendly or target that you know is a real person experiencing the same thrills as you. Especially if you come out on top of an extended dog fight! And there definitely needs to be more to progression than the ranking system and point system to reward players for playing. I really don't know what, and couldn't think of anything now as I haven't played in quite a long time now. Hell, it could be different by now, for all I know. All in all, a terrific foundation for what could ultimately become a superb game, especially if they ever get a marketing budget for some actual advertising to draw players in. With that said, my reinstall is complete and I'm about to dive in!
I’ve played this strictly for the combat and as someone that has 1k+ hours of PVPing in Star Citizen, I can’t agree with your comment. Sure CIG is in development hell for their game, but their combat mechanics are phenomenal and has depth underneath the shallow appearance. In one game I can dogfight in a game because the game says so; on the other, I can dogfight because I’m protecting my friends pulling illegal drugs. The latter is so much more enjoyable.
Looks promising especially in light of Dreadnoughts final demise. I'll look at the sale price on the 22 on Steam. As of today it IS 34 dollars. Good video.
So it's a multiplayer only X4 without 3 of the 'X's? Looks neat. That big red and white ship looks like it was pulled right out of X4. One of the Terran capital ships maybe.
actually Infinity Battlescape was Infinity quest for Earth. before ED and Star citizen Infinity quest for Earth is a game like elite dangerous but the project took so long because it is only being work by 1 man. thats why he change universe gameplay to 1 star system and started i novae studios the kickstarter for battlescape. and this game is in development way before ED and SC but it only making faster progress after kickstarter. sorry for my english.
I have such mixed feelings about this game. I want to buy it, but it feels like it has no future due to lack of players. How good are the bots at strategy? Right now I’m playing X4 Foundations for my single-player huge space battles kick, and it really checks off a lot of boxes for me. IB kinda feels like a step backwards in comparison unless it’s a true multiplayer experience. Am I wrong? Maybe IB is “if you like X4 then you’ll love this game!” instead. I’d love to read everyone’s thoughts.
Right now it's not a 4X type of game...it may include industry after release. It's more akin to Planetside with quick "drop in, drop out" large scale action. Again 4X elements may get added later, like base building, but the dev's primary focus is the combat mechanics right now
@@Sevensup I don’t not being able to build bases and such. I just want to feel part of a fleet that has some sort of strategy behind it, fighting an enemy fleet that also has a strategy and discernible “teamwork”. I’m just worried that the bots will lead to a chaotic furball rather than nice tactical ship movements, targeted fire, use of cover, etc.
@@CMDROldDuck AI ships lack the intelligence required for proper cooperation at this moment. Maybe apart from corvettes, they flock to ships in need rfom time to time. But players can coordinate, if not through external voice chat, then through in-game VoIP, text chat, squad target assignment, and quick comms. There is a lot of value in tactical gameplay, even more than AIs demand to be countered with, assuming there are enough people to have a proper fleet vs. fleet PvP battle on the server.
@@CMDROldDuck there is some cohesion among the ai. The capital ships they have especially tend to group around objectives. For example in a base attack there is always a carrier (that acts as a mobile base/respawn point) which is a center point of the battle every time. At any given time I can usually see atleast 5 capital ships attacking or defending the carrier. The ai small ships seem to just roam the battle randomly though.
I found out and back these guys via KickStarter back in 2020. If StarBase, Dual Universe, or even SC had this combat, it'd be a win win. This is definitely worth it!
I haven't played this yet, but it looks like a slowed down combat flight model, and it turns out star citizen devs are implementing a slowed-down combat flight model as well, so I guess we will see how that performs in SC testing.
6:10 I would disagree. If you got to steam reviews right now every second one states that the game simply doesnt worth the price. I personally would like to play it, but 35 bucks is too greedy and this greed kills player base.
I haven't about this game in the longest time but I was just looking through my Kickstarter history and saw this there. I'm also waiting for the full release - turns out that's taking a lot longer than I thought it would!
I'm all in. Just give us a mission based story campaign, (no need for expensive voiceovers or fmv.) An offline arcade mode, less focus on multi, multi, multi, multiplayer. I'm then sold. Because If this is another multiplayer 'online' only, PC only stinker, then the Devs can stuff it. It'll then be designated as just another simple no brainer that will eventually be fuelled by loot crates, purchasable ships and skins. LIKE ALWAYS.. Gamer's are fed up of it.
Haven't played this in a long while. Nice to see they updated the "Confetti" explosions for the cap ships. Might give it a go again. I'm sure it's a lot different than what I played.
I don't understand why most games depict space battles like we were in WWII? Now in 2022, we already have drones that can eliminate targets where its operators sit safely on the other side of the planet. Why did the technology in space age seemingly go backwards?
I would say it's very similar. ED's customization and weapon layouts are almost the same. The actual flight models are similar, however IB has a much simpler user interface. ED's take some learning, IB is very "pickup and play" kinda game.
Yo what do you think of the new gameplay loops? I absolutely love them it’s just so satisfying and with the orbital bombardment in the new patch it’s just all coming together ❤️
The new orbital cannons look really fun. I havent gotten a chance to play with them yet, but I did watch their livestream yesterday. They seem hard to aim, but have a massive damage potential
@@Sevensup you gotta give them a go it’s added such a unique thing of orbital battles that happen whilst the assault is also happening it’s so organic. Love the video as well mate
if losing a station takes away your ability to field capital ships, wouldn'T that basically ensure a snowball effect that makes it so any faction taking the advantage early would just keep winning because nobody else can field the same firepower? What measures are in place to prevent snowballing ?
Possibly, but small ships are very powerful if used correctly. Capital ships have a hard time hitting critical components on stations. But overall yes, it's a big disadvantage
Main measure for now, it looks like, is small ships being the strategic meta :D 100% small ship fleet shreds any base within minutes, something fleet with capitals has trouble with.
Sounds like a new Fractured Space, but much better. Something like a Planetside 2, in space. Or even a new FreeSpace/Starlancer/Independence War but with multiplayer and playable capital ships. It looks really good.
I'm always happy about games that let you actively control capital ships. Too bad that the game is online only and doesn't have a dedicated offline mode.
You say it's like Planetside. Does that mean there are going to be persistent meta objectives? You mentioned the space stations, but you didn't mention if their loss was only applicable in the specific battle, or if it carrier over.
The solar system is the "match" per say. If a team loses a station, it's out of action for the rest of the match. The matches last for probably about 8 hours, or until a team loses too many stations. The solar system refreshes once a team wins. As of right now, you cannot repair a station, unlike a base in planetside
been waiting for this to come out for years. had it on my wishlist for since a long time ago. just completely missed the start it seems. imma go ham now ^^
Do you know the game ' angles fall first ' it does lots of this stuff. Except for flying in the atmosphere. It does both planet side combat and space combat, but not at the same time unfortunately. This project looks interesting too.
Fun, though in one of your initial statements you say the combat is better than StarCitizen.... I don't quite think the combat is really comparable. Yes, SC is harder to get into. Though for me once there it feels more promising for actual long term satifaction. I regard this kind of easy access combat as a bit too casual. For me the true fun of this game is the simple tug of war with so many players. At least for a while pretty entertaining.
I agree, it's more casual compared to SC, and currenlty you can't do as much compared to SC. If someone just want's to have a good casual experience, I would put it more in that category
Good combat usually has simple mechanics that can be applied in an almost infinite amount of ways making it very complex in that way. Think of games like Streetfighter, chess or DotA. Any kid can play it but to become good at it requires years of practice. Games with very complex mechanics often are the other way around. Mind you, im just talking about the pure combat here, of course a game like SC has a lot of other things going for it.
I just can't play "manual" aiming "futuristic" games anymore. It's 2900 something year, everyone and their dog has a spaceship to fly between starts and they are still manually aiming. Terrible. There must be more depth in a futuristic game than meeting the dots together.
The big ships, Destroyers and Cruisers, have auto-weapon systems. The only manual fire you have to do is torpedo/missile launching, but those track the target on their own after firing
man, i'd absolutely love to play this, but it's just so darn expensive, i'll wait for a heavy discount, totally a reason there's so few players too along with not much marketting
As of right now there is not, however you can spawn at any friendly station/ground base and fly around freely. Also, sticking close to allies makes survival much easier
