@@kodybecker89 I believe I've put 3,200 or so miles on it so far. Getting 24.9 MPG average overall. Unsure about just highway MPG, as I haven't set the trip meter for specifically highway trips. I would guess I'm getting 26-27 highway. My average MPG is a good mix of city and highway. While I went from getting 28 MPG average in my 2015 Outback, to 24-25 in the Wilderness, it's absolutely worth it! I don't know how I lived without a turbocharger and the extra 100 horsepower lol. Not to mention the sound system actually sounds quite good for a stock system.
2022 OBW owner here. Had it since July '21 right after they were introduced. Chicago winters, offroading, rain storms, deep puddles, potholes, medium/deep mud, slippery hills, curbs, flooded highways have not stopped my car. After adding skid-plates, and other reinforcement, it's even more capable. The mods coming out for this car to enhance it's capability is awesome. Really solid platform for a bug-out vehicle when you need to bolt. It's size is JUST RIGHT compared to an SUV. Extremely happy with my purchase.
I’m glad you’ve had such favorable experiences, and you summed it up quite well. 🙂 That’s the same impression and experience I’ve had or expect out of my Wilderness. How many miles do you have now? I bought mine 9/21 and around 28k. It no longer gets much drive time since I bought a Miata. 😅
When I was comparing SUV's such as Toyota RAV 4 , Honda, Kia, & Nissan, in AWD system, price, options, Subaru came out on top. I'm now the proud owner of a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness, and I'm loving it !!!!!
I have thoroughly enjoyed both my 2022 and 2023 Outback Wilderness. My 2022 saved my life. Someone was leaving an shopping center, and I suspect she hit the accelerator instead of the brakes. My car flipped a couple times and landed upside down. I walked out of it with only a concussion. I just came back from a road trip in my 2023. On one leg of the trip, I was getting 31MPG. I was averaging 29 to 30 MPG on the highway. The car can get respectable milage if you do not drive it like you stole it. So many love to hit the turbo and go. I may upgrade my speakers (not going to spend the $$$ to get the H-K system upgrade from the factory), and I live in Texas, so a heated steering wheel is not a deal breaker for me.
I remember your story from another one of my videos. Glad you’re okay and still enjoying the replacement 23 as well as providing insight to others who read the comments! 🙂
I love the updated front end, the fact that there’s a heated steering wheel AND the blue is my fav color on the wilderness. Love it, still hoping to get one in the future. Great video as usual!!
Picked up my '24 Outback Wilderness 3 weeks ago - Very happy with it! Only issue I've had is with the optional phone charger. Phone overheats even when on the charger for a short time. Called dealership and apparently is a known problem and was told they are working with Subaru on potential fix. Everything else has exceeded expectations.
I’m glad you’re enjoying yours! Honestly, I never use my wireless charger. It’s not up to par. Especially when my 22 has wired Apple CarPlay and charges much faster that way.
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 great video BTW! Glad to hear you are happy with your '22 and haven't had any issues. Yep, paid $600 extra for it, so when I take it in for my first oil change I'll see if they can take it out as I'm missing that space to place the phone.
Thank you! Dang, that’s pretty steep. I think mine was in the $2xx ballpark, and just an option that mine was ordered with by the factory before I claimed it.
I’m 6 2 can’t get in the rav 4 and talking to my wife on a trip is impossible It is under power and rides rough! Just bought a white 2024 wilderness outback what a difference the turbo is great!
Thx for the awesome reviews. I've been watching over 40 reviews in the last 30 days. Yours is the most thorough and best description of this Subaru. The video images are really good and clear. I have never drove one before. Even after watching your "7 issues with Outback wilderness" video, I still think this is the car for me. Like I said, your explanation really did it. My Subary 2024 Outback Wilderness Geyser blue has been ordered and expecting it for december 2023 or january 2024. Thanks again.
I’m thrilled that you enjoyed them so much! Great choice, I’m sure you’ll love your sweet new ride. If you haven’t already seen it I also did a 2 year update video on my Wilderness in the last couple weeks. 😊
Although it's not perfect, I love my touring xt. I considered the onyx xt and wilderness but decided on the touring because most of the extra features I wanted were only available on top trim. I do prefer the onyx aesthetically, but it lacked some of the comforts I wanted....until now.
The extra orange swish on the rear windows is a bit too much. The addition of the heated wheel and HK sound system are a big plus. These two items made me opt for the Touring XT in 2023, but would have gotten the Wilderness if it had those two things at the time.
It’s as simple as they come. It’s just a few flashing lights. Green for example when you’re in cruise control and locked onto the vehicle ahead of you. Yellow when you’re starting to have an issue. And red flashing and beeping when emergency features start to kick in or you’re going out of your lane. Thanks for watching!!
That’s super exciting and congrats! I hope it’s worth the wait, and good call. It’s more enjoyable to drive a car without a bank sending you payment reminders, lol. Thanks for watching! 🙂
This is almost perfect, but for me living in South Texas, the cooled seats are a must! Just can't deal with swamp butt. Give me cooled seats in this setup, and I'll buy one tomorrow!
@@user-lm3fi2ee4x all three are excellent choices, but the Outback & Rav 4 have lots more power then the Corolla Cross. (Not knocking the Cross-one of my favorites) I preferred the quickness of the Outback over the Rav 4. The Rav4 will get you better fuel mileage... You have a tough decision to make. Test drive them a couple of times each, or rent each one out to get a good feel ...good luck.
1. They should have kept the hood scoop on the wilderness trim 2. The seats are pretty sweaty from my test drive. Startex DOES NOT ventilate anywhere near as much as they claim. Interesting about this trim getting an older version of eyesight, I did not know that!
These absolutely should have a external hood scope! 😎 it’s not a downgraded system, just not the most up to date one on this trim level. Thanks for watching! 🙂
Not that I know of. I’ve heard very few issues with this on the forums. Mostly just regarding the 2.4 BRZ engine. I think any Subarus that do have this issue it’s been discovered in the first part of ownership and then hopefully promptly fixed. But that’s all the here say I know of. Mine thankfully hasn’t had a single powertrain issue in its 36k.
It looks like a modified lifted wagon. I would rather have one than the Forester Wilderness but I think the Forester Wilderness looks more natural as an off-road capable vehicle.
This geyser blue looks outstanding on the OBW. I appreciate that you film various perspectives of the vehicle several times in full sun, not in the shade. Did you consider this color before you chose the silver on your OBW?
I’m glad you found it helpful! The blue is a very cool color, especially where it was the launch color and specific to only the Wilderness line. But personally I didn’t give it much consideration, I really like the Ice Silver Metallic. I owned a blue crosstrek for 2 years prior to the OBW, and I never loved it. I always wished it was silver, but they didn’t have one on the lot when I was offered a killer deal on my Tacoma as a trade in. Best of luck in what you decide! 🙂
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 I think the Ice Silver looks sharp on the Wilderness and it contrasts well against the black cladding and trim. I like the OBW but for my needs would probably go with a Limited XT in Cosmic Blue or Magnetite Grey.
I agree! And the Silver always looks pretty good clean or dirty. I drive early in the morning (sometimes before snowplows are out) and up to 30k miles a year doing therapy and I have become pretty bad at washing my cars knowing the next drive they’ll get dirty again, lol. That’s why I drive a silver Wilderness. 🥲 But you gotta pick what will work best for you, and a clean Blue or Grey Outback sure looks good! Very rich colors in person. 🙂
That would be a nice option! But I think many wilderness owners value Subaru’s decision to keep Geyser Blue exclusive to the Wilderness models. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Subaru comes out with a WRX Wilderness. However if they offered WRB from the WRX on the Outback then I likely would have gone that route, lol. 😬😅
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 after axing the STI, the least Subaru can do for us WRX guys is give us some special colors 🥲 I ended up with a ceramic white WRX after debating between white and WRB… I think my decision would’ve been a lot harder had geyser blue been available. We always want what we can’t have haha. Love the content! ✌️
This vehicle automatically runs the low beam led headlights in auto mode. It’s not necessary to physically move the stalk to the on setting. Other than this it’s a great review.
I wish Subaru would offer ventilated seats on the wilderness... I have a Grand Cherokee that I'm highly considering trading in for one. I just can't bring myself to give up the ventilated seats... I spend a lot of time driving for work, and they are SO nice... I know they offer them on the Limited, but that doesn't have the dual X mode, and I want that and the suspension lift... Ugh...
i own a 2008 corvette z51. but at my age is has become far too uncomfortable. i have been looking for a replacement all aound driver. This 2024 Subaru Wilderness seems to fit all my needs (Yes it is not a sportscar I know), It most likely will not hold a decent resale value like a corvette would, but I plan on holding on it for the long run.
I bet you’ve had a lot of fun with the 08! But I personally have really enjoyed my OBW and hope that you will as well if that’s what you decide to go with. This is rather silly, but I have a video on my channel of my OBW doing a few pulls against my friends supercharged 08 corvette… 😅
I don’t remember what I said, as I filmed this almost a year ago. But for whatever reason each new year of Subarus I drive feels better. Either they are slightly twinkled and more refined. Or it’s just that “new car” feeling, compared to my 2.5 year old OBW. 🤷♂️🙂
woah! why haven't I seen that rear decal on the side window on any other 24? either way, the 24 is def the one to buy. also they should have updated the rear bumper to match the front lol.
I have a 22 OBW in this color. I got the side swoosh decals as well as a sort of pin strip that runs above the bottom of the door sills. I got them from my dealer. Think it gives it an extra little pop
Just picked our 2024 up a few days ago. We were test driving this against the Caddy X4/X5’s and Lexus Hybrids. I can’t say enough good things about this car. Not only does it have better visibility, but it is quicker and more responsive then the other two.
I used to drive an Outback for decades then they went to that large infotainment screen, Lots of complaints regarding the electronics and that screen being very glitchy, random malfunctioning, etc, How has been your experience with it?
@david197o the ride is night and day. The seats are way more comfortable than my Premium. This Wilderness is based off the Oxny model of the Outback. I just took her on a long road trip to Utah to visit the Mighy 5 National Parks. No seat issues what so ever. The ride is nice and smoove.
That would be a nice option! But it would have to be a much better hybrid system than the last generation Crosstrek had to make it a consideration for many of us. Subaru had a way to go with that tech unless they can borrow from their Toyota partnership. Thanks for watching. 🙂
or borrow toyotas hybrid which is probably the best hybrid out there. really wanted one when this when it came out but the mpg and that cvt held me and subpar infotainment . but this refresh does loooks great
Coming from a 2016 Crosstrek hybrid…I think they could improve it a lot if they stuck an actual electric motor in there that would be useful at over 9% throttle and more than just barely moving down the street at 5-10mph. Definitely second that Toyota hybrid system…that’s really what they need in there! Or the Plugin hybrid route without a battery that takes up a significant part of the back storage space!
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 Subaru, like the majority of auto manufacturers, has discontinued the manual transmission in most of their product line up because NO ONE WAS BUYING THEM. After all, millennials can't drive vehicles with manual transmissions... they only whine out on message threads about how they won't buy a car without a manual transmission.... 😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑
I am wondering how do the rear seat back rubber mats attach? I thought they attached by Velcro with carpet in the other trims, but doesn’t the wilderness already come with rear seat backs covered in Startex?
I just looked at mine. There is some sort of startex type material on the back of the second row. The mats are attached with elastic paradors to the head rest prongs. 🙂
Nope! It’s a great vehicle. I have a video on how to pull out the wireless charger which doesn’t work very well in my own experience. And then just the typical Subaru windshield concern of them being slightly more prone to cracks than some other vehicles. Otherwise, it’s an awesome vehicle and we’re about to buy another Subaru.
50,000 on mine. Locks have broken. Passenger window will not go up. Cleaning the windshield with the sprayers cracked it in 80° heat. Screen glitches out once in a while. GPS is useless, Waze is way better! A/C isn't great.
Ouch, that’s a lot of peripheral issues. Do you think you’ll keep it much longer now that I’m assuming your bumper to bumper warranty is out and those other issues are standard accords the platform?
@AutomotiveAnonymous208 No, I'm currently looking. I really think it would be near perfect if everything worked. I'm just so afraid of the CVT breaking along with the electronics.
I hear you, what are you considering trading it for? I’ve only got about 28k completely trouble free miles. I mostly drive my Miata right now. But I also don’t know if it’s worth the gamble past the powertrain warranty if the cost to replace a CVT is 8K+ I’d rather choose to spend that on a new vehicle experience. But in a few years we’ll have that much more data on how peoples turbo outback’s have held up. I’ve not been that worried because they use this powertrain in the bigger/heavier Ascent that even has a higher tow rating, so I figured the OBW isn’t working that hard.
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 Rav4 TRD or Hybrid. The Broncos and Tacomas look great, but I refuse to drive anything that gets 17mpg nowadays. $4/gal fuel prices are probably part of the reason the truck market sucks right now.
They’re so similar, basically the same vehicle DNA but the Ascent has a bigger body, so it maybe catches more wind noise if anything. 🤷♂️ Test drive both and you tell me!! 😜 I’ll post a 1,700 mile road trip I just took in my OBW, spoiler alert, it did great and was very comfortable!
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 Thanks! Just another question - did you try lane centering and adaptive cruise control on your road trip? What is your opinion of those features? Does it stick to the center of the lane or ping-pong side to side?
Overall it stays fairly centered in the lane! As long as it doesn’t have a moment of over correcting (which in that case it ping-pongs you) it does a pretty decent job! Just don’t take your hands off the wheel. 🙂
I looked online, and it says that this engine is a direct injection engine. So have fun with all the carbon buildup, unless they also have port injection.
I thought you shouldn’t go over 4000 rpm’s in the 1st 1000 miles on any new Subaru regardless of model? Just checking if this affects the car in anyway?
I have no insight to this, but I would imagine 25 or 26. Subaru doesn’t seem to announce much until it’s nearly time to roll the new vehicle off the assembly line. 🤷♂️🙂
i have a 2023 Impreza but when i pull away at low throttle I get this rubber band effect that drives me crazy, with aggressive acceleration it pulls good with no bucking effect, but I don't normally drive like that, do you feel the rubber band effect from the CVT ?, thank you...
Yeah, between that and the brief turbo lag that maybe accentuates it, it’s likely more noticeable on the turbo models, IMO. Anyone can care to chime in?! 🙂
Just picked up a 24 OBW and mine came with no skid plates. There’s a super thin silver painted plastic thing on the front but that’s it. Kind of bummed they advertise skid plates but you have to add it on as an option and it’s not standard
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 Yes, the carabiner hack works. I have a 2018 Touring, and I can’t believe they haven’t fixed that yet. I found out the hard in 2018, and they “said” they’d never heard of the issue when I called them. Also, my windows need resetting occasionally - another ongoing problem. I had a lengthy discussion with Subaru, and she blew me off saying there was nothing in their system about the electrical issues. I said just search it on YT, and she said that meant nothing. There is a Canadian lawsuit regarding these very issues, but I guess that doesn’t count as “official documentation In their system”.
Oh, interesting, I’m sorry to hear that. I’m sure they’re not supposed to “acknowledge” any more issues than they are legally required to once it gets to that point? 🤷♂️😢
I just got one last week. The heated steering doesn’t get as warm compared to other brands I have driven. Not sure if the $1500 price increase was worth it even with Harmon kordon ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mostly like it. But until Subaru gives me a manual option for a true off-road vehicle, no dice. The thought of a CVT climbing rugged terrain,.... I think not. Also pleeeeaaaseee stop putting those hideous tablets in the consoles. If someone is wearing gloves (winter) they would appreciate climate control BUTTONS/KNOBS. I would probably buy one if not for those 2 reasons.
Is the electronic package annoying AF still? And that awful rubber band transmission. Aside from the road noise those two things ruin an otherwise just ok car. Paying 40k for that crate because it has a $300 "lift" kit on it is plain stupid.
Agreed on the grill and the “copper” accents on the windows are too much. Mind you, I found the coloured accents too much on my ‘23 OBW and blacked them out after a few months.
OMG finally they allowed a sound upgrade. I love my 2022 but I HATE the terrible sound system. So pathetic, Underpowered with the cheapest speakers imaginable. And if you upgrade the speakers, you will likely burn out the underpowered head unit. It NEEDS to be upgraded. I was wondering what the upgrades might be. I can live without a heated steering wheel, although why they never thought to put it in THIS model is dumbfounding. Then again so is the concept that people that enjoy camping don't appreciate quality sounds. Well, finally they came to their senses. Duh, a no brainer there. They should offer a retrofit for people that got screwed with a lack of choices for previous models. Databyter
You’re right. It boggles my mind why they wouldn’t offer the upgraded sound system on nearly every trim levels. The parts are available, not much reengineering is needed. And you shouldn’t have to get such an expensive trim level over a base or premium just to have a decent system, as you mentioned! 🙂
@@rbton The HK speakers are powered by an amplifier that takes the load off of the head unit and increases your dynamic range and gets the most out of the upgraded speakers. I forget if it comes with a mini sub or not.
