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No maintenance? Bring it on! Interested in further information? Look up “De8auer Carbonaut” and you’ll find some interesting details on this product along with Steve from Gamer Nexus 👍
I'm a huge proponent of using pads and run them in all my machines, except laptops. It sucks you had a poor experience with the IC cooling, but I can see why it's a pain on laptops - cooler surface quality is much looser on laptops than desktops. I did a comparison of the carbonaut, kryonaut, and IC pad in my desktop... and the carbonaut was significantly behind the other 2. I'd also mention the carbonaut is reusable, but falls apart way easier than the IC pad, lasting only a couple of uses before the pressure split the pad. I get they sponsor a bunch of tech tubers, and may even sponsor you, but to those out there watching this, stick with kryonaut for laptops and pass on the carbonaut. The carbonaut is cheaply made, more expensive and couldn't hold a candle to the IC pad or kryonaut for temps which are paramount in laptops. For desktops, definitely go with the IC pad. Testing results that I did are here - www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cehwx8/graphite_pad_shootout_on_zen_2/?
I work on those too for clients. I’ve built several mustangs and use to race before I had kids 10 years ago. Jack of all trades hence the name. Ryan, you’re probably the first to know that.
@@BobOfAllTrades Imagine soaking this cloth in LM solution.. This should hold the LM in the structure of the cloth and prevent spillages, while improving the thermal performance and keeping some of that uniformity. Might not work out but personally I'm curious to try. The way I have tackled uniformity and spillage issues before when using LM is to be generous with LM and apply normal non-conductive silicone paste over electrical components to create a seal around the die. This has prevented spills, while maintaining good uniformity due to not having to be so careful during applying and removing the excess. Very good video as always and I greatly appreciate learning that you are literally a Jack of all trades.
Funny story, after seeing too many comments like this I finally looked this guy up about a year ago. I cracked up about it and even “featured” him in for my Mech G3 review.
@@metaphysicalfuck I just got done doing mine, very good results im pretty damn happy atm. Games usually running 90-95 im happily hovering around the 80-82 mark now. Hit me up in the future if your curious how it holds up!
The thermal conductivity of a graphene layer is extremely high along its length rather than from one layer to another. Hence you see almost exact same temperature on all cores. As the heat is dissipated/absorbed to a much greater extent laterally. This was actually talked about in Linus tech tips' video where they try a thermal pad like this one.
wow, that looks really awesome. Please do a full video of putting such a pad on your next laptop. I am very curious on how you get the exact dimensions and then cut the right size for the die.
So for those interested in a long term short review I’ve been using this on my Lenovo y7000 with 9300H and 1650. Please be reminded it’s not a better TIM vs stuff like Kryonaut. It works exactly as was described by Bob. Eliminated my massive core temps Differences (more than 20c worse case, average 15c coolest Core 72, hottest core 93c). Been using this 3 years, and it still Works perfect, took off cooler to Clean grilles and fans multiple times, accidentally blew it to the floor, ripped off a tiny corner, and it’s still working perfectly. Core differences average less than 8c, with UV laptop never throttles.
Should I use this carbonaut or conductonaut or ptm7950? I have ZenBook pro ux6404 and I just got it today, idle temperatures are sky high, 15w idle and 70-80c CPU temp, 3-4p cores throttle at idle...got it today... I need most powerful cooling solution as I'm allergic to fan noise. Which one do you recommend? (I would use PCB silicon to protect CPU if I use LM)
Really cool for a maintenance perspective, and core uniformity as you mention! I'm curious about performance though between one of the best thermal paste, liquid metal and this sheet. You mention it's about the same, same as liquid metal or paste? How many degrees of difference for each?
@BobOfAllTrades any updates on the performance of this? Looking at this or paste for my RP-15 because it keeps randomly shutting down when gaming and I think its due to high temps.
I was wondering about this for my own laptop recently, saw your old video taking about thermal pads and decided against it. This makes me think it's worth a try, so when I replace my thermal paste again I'll do this instead! Thank you for this amazing information, there's nothing else like it on youtube!
@@ikscdmdegi6954 I didn't end up doing it, sorry. I ultimately didn't need to fix my own fans, so it would be unnecessary to do. Not sure about the performance.
Bob thank you for sharing this with us. My omen 15t could definitly use this, especially that it is still on its stock TP as it was working fine for a new laptop and i wasnt brave enough to LM it like my other machines. I might go with this over LM.
Thanks for this video, i'm definitely going to be picking up some of this for my older laptop, its got an older AMD processor in it that just likes to run really hot.
Bob, what thickness of thermal pads should I use on my Aero 15w for the chipsets (6 total)? I also noticed you have some black thermal pads on your RAM and some people cover their SSD's as well...what thickness on those is best? I have 1.5mm but I think it may be too thick.
Good video BoB but i remember watching a video that say that these are so soft that they can be easily torn? Or is that only because in that video it was used on a desktop cpu?
Bob thank you for this informative thoughtful video. Bob could you please consider doing a video of Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut on 16 inch MacBook Pro 2019 model please. I know myself and others would benefit from such video. Thanks!
Bob i need your help. What is the correct size of the Carbonaut pad that can be user in Razer Blade Pro 17 Late 2019? Would you even recommend it? I am a bit skeptical about LM.
Hey Bob. Just tried carbonaut on my old ivybridge CPU and heatsink was lapped tri point heatsink. 1-4c core differential is better than 8-12c differential is good indeed. But i don't see much changes in temps than my cm maker gel. One difference in the application i made was i cut the carbonaut sheet and made it fit inside the bga die with ¼ space on every side. Had panicked if the sheet would slip, but it didn't.
Could you post the high temp readings comparing the conductonaut vs. The carbonaut? I know they won't be the same, but I'm curious how much of a difference there really is.
So Bob those are the thermal pastes available locally here (hydronaut, aeronaut, kryonaut, minus pad 8, MX-4, MX-5, mastergel lineup, cryofuze, NT-H1), which one should I use for dell g5 5587 (i7-8750h+gtx1050ti)? which one wouldn't dry up after a few weeks and at the same time give me the biggest decrease in thermals? bc literally the laptop has been unusable bc of the thermal throttling for a long time now.
richard hogben It’s a neat product that I’m at an interesting stage with it right now. I just took all of the graphite pads off of my laptops and I’m storing them (the pads) for the next month or so. Then I’m gonna put them on a different laptop and see how they perform.
Hey bob got another request haha, can you make a video on the application of the carbonaut? Cause its available here in our place but I'm kinda scared that I may apply it in the wrong way... Hope this reaches you.
As an Aero 15x v8 owner... It took me too long to find this video. I've bought K5-Pro for my VRMs and VRAM, Kryonaut and now Gelid Extreme for my CPU/GPU die... GPU is doing fine between the two pastes but the CPU has been so finicky... I had the uneven core temperature problem, and so I'd get throttling even when half my cores are fine, as well as high 50s and low 60s at idle. Not good! I've ordered a carbonaut piece and I hope it helps with the core uniformity now. It's OK if it isn't the best temperature reduction, as long as it lasts and is decent! Thank you for the video! This is really good stuff! (again, many reviewers aren't able to do long term,, but I don't think anyone had mentioned core uniform temperature at all!! That's a pretty good selling point!)
Can you try using the thermal paste and the fabric electrically conductive sheet. I’d like to see if that would get the best of both worlds, lower temps and even core temps.
Hey Bob, I've got the HP Omen 15 from Microcenter that you reviewed last year, and which you also did a complete TIM replace on (with video). You didn't see much benefit from that. I see an 8 to 12 degree C temperature difference between the top and bottom sides of the 9750h CPU when it's running full-bore and near the 97 degree temp throttle (I got around the power throttle completely). Do you have any idea how many more watts I could push through the CPU before it temp-throttles if I were to use this to even out the temps? Are we talking like 3 more watts? And no, I'm not intending this machine to be extremely long-lived ;)
@BOAT how often should I replace thermal griz cosmonaut liq metal on CPU&GPU on my Asus strix scar ii (8750h/2070 maxp/32gb) ? Currently repasted right out of the box with thermal griz kryonaut and over two months later I'm noticing the temps starting to raise. Graphite paper is just not for me, I'm in the other 10%er category who like to tinker. Thanks for all you do!
Yeah I’d like that too but I have to have a laptop that’s capable of that and I would need permission to do this. Who knows if that’s ever going to happen.
Are 94 degree temps normal under load??? I’m thinking about doing this because my temps around that high, and I thought that was way too high. ...seen other video temps around 70’s
only 1-2days after repaste my 8750h,i get so high temps on some cores...difference 11c...when i repaste it again i can see the center of cpu is dry,my paste just spill out...now the question is...wil this carbon pad push my temps bellow 90c and it should be stable at the place right?
I have a Blade 15 thats starting to thermal throttle a bit so I think its high time I replace the thermal stuff, Im curious about experimenting with this but I have literally never tried anything before, let alone taking the heat sink off, so I may give it a shot!
Honestly, the Carbonaut pads might be the best thing for the Alienware 15 R2 (i7 6700HQ and GTX 980M) I still have (this point probably going to be giving that to my niece before I move on to the 17 R5 I’ve got). Only thing is taking that 15 R2 apart is going to be an adventure that I will most likely need a full day on, as I looked up some teardown videos of it and it does NOT look fun, but I know the paste needs to be replaced on it.
Am I meant to be expecting better thermal performance than stock paste (like Kryonaut etc) with the Carbonaut, or simply better core uniformity? Your Aero 15 benchmarks showed the paste having lower max temps on some cores using thermal paste.
Even if what it brings to the table is not having to replace the plaste, well, for me it's worth it. Did you try putting 2 of them one on top of the other and see what happens with temperature?
Tried this pad on my x17 r2 and it worked but only let me draw 80w from the cpu and with 3 hot cores. Bit worked on my old Lenovo X250 just fine. I can see it being fine for a GPU and low power draw stuff and you’ll never have to replace. But think I’ll go and try PTM 7950 as I’ve currently got Liquid Metal and I just don’t feel I can transport it safely anymore.
Hey Bob, still love your videos!! You talked about movability of the TIM. Does LM have the potential to fall out of the dye and touch other components if you carry your laptop sideways (i.e. a backpack)? If so, this pad might be a much better solution. Thanks!
Please do try and test the difference in performance between the pads and regular thermal paste on laptops that don't thermal throttle. Would love to see the results. Keep up the great videos!
Subbed, love your videos, im planning on buying mag15, but not sure if i want max15 lol.... also can you link to a tutorial on how to apply these pastes?
honestly the only way to really go wrong with a paste that isnt electrically conductive is to not use enough. using too much can get sloppy, but doesnt hurt cooling. long as you tight the screws right excess will just squeeze out. something like liquid metal you need to do a lot of prep, especially with a laptop where it moves around a lot
As a personal tech support to my gf, I have to take apart her laptop every few months, due to cat hair clogging up the exhausts. I've tried Deepcool Z3 (crap for laptops, too thin and pumps out easily), Noctua NT-H1 (same problem), and now I'm using ID-Cooling TG25 (very viscous just what I need, but it's practically unbuyable and I'm now running out [it came bundled with the SE-224-XT cooler]. I've been on the lookout for very viscous thermal pastes, and Deepcool Z9 which is one has been sadly phased out. A month or two ago, I wondered if Carbonaut could be a good enough substitute. Thanks for the video, it helped a lot with my doubts as Carbonaut is very expensive here but it may just be worth it. Also on a similar note, I hope manufacturers design laptop heatsinks to be cleanable without having to take the whole thing out and necessitate a repaste.
I tried that a couple of months ago on my hp omen 15t with an i8 8750h and 1070 mq - prior to that i had liquid metal aplied, but i it turned out that my application of that was pretty terrible lol. I tried those pads and even got a worse result in my case. Reaplied liquid metal and i cant improve it more :) Great vid!
For better performance paste (gamers/big video editors) on some cores 10-17 degrees difference , for easy clean longterm function then carbonaut. For me if paste gives also less fan noise that would be my choice.
Bob, first of all, congratulations on the video! How many do I need to buy to change the thermal paste on my notebook? Only one 3.8 x 3.8 or do I have to buy 2 for the cpu and gpu?
Forget about temps, what about heat dissipation for the carbnaut ? I read somewhere that using a conductive TP might not decrease temps greatly but the fans will be almost quite due to superior heat dissipation i believe, is it that case for the graphite sheets u used or its only advantage is core uniformity ?
I got a Acer Aspire 5 laptop with rtx 2050 and intel i5 12th gen been thinking to change thermal paste as temp are going 90+ when gaming, laptop is orignally a notebook but it got the gaming features, before when i gamed temp went around 70-80+ not more than that Now i was deciding to look for the right thermal paste for it and found your video but well the carbonaut is kinda costly here and on top its conductive so i can't make any mistakes when placing it. but if you think this could be a good choice then let me know otherwise if you got a thermal paste you can recommend i would love to use it.
It really seems to have an amazing uniformity for the area of the contact, but yet we can't expect better overall temperatures (or performance if bottlenecked by temperature) than like liquid metal, right? Will you cover more on this matter? At least it seems better than the stock looking at the minimum temperatures on 5:46 comparison.
Hey Bob first, great informative video. Second I was recently introduced to the fact that LM wears out /down within 6 months, my question is if I get the TIM option from HIDEVOLUTION does the warranty they offer cover the LM or is that another charge? Love the channel man, keep it up!
Stephen from own or disown posted an interview with Donald from HID evolution themselves and he will confirm with you there hasn’t been one case that he can recall where liquid metal wore out on one of their devices.
@@MelvinKhosa well i got that info from someone who "said" they had it tested for different machines ....turns out htey were dead ass wrong so i thank you also for the reassurance info you rock dude!
mounting pressure? I think my dell e6540 has 4 screw mounting screw and it has good pressure too. Maybe carbonaut is the solution. I'm tired to repaste that every month XD
i just got some kryonaut for 10$, replaced the IC graphite that was on it. taking it was stuck to both the die and the cooler, ripped it to pure garbage. ended up super annoying to clean off. i guess next time i'll go for carbonaut lol.
Well you saw how I was cutting the pad 👌 I’m sure it is fragile but I was also delicate with it as I think anyone with common sense should be too once you see these for yourself 👍
Have you replaced your thermal paste on your 2020 yet? I have the same and I'm pretty sure mine needs replacing now after only owning it for a month. If so what, what method did you use and what results have you seen?
Hey guys, do you still recommend this solution ? I got a brand new Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW (i7 9750h + RTX 2070). CPU gets really hot ingame (90°C +) which is obviously not healthy ... I'm a bit afraid to put liquid metal in a laptop tbh though I repasted several with non-metalic solutions. Thx to anybody who gives his/her opinion and feedback, i'll appreciate.
Hey Bob, how well do you think having both Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on CPU + GPU, and Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads on heat sensitive surfaces would be?
@@BobOfAllTrades oh that's worse than I expected. In your experience, does stuff like kryonaut and mastergel tend to get worse over time? I've heard that thermal cycling can dry them out, or cause the paste to squeeze out the sides due to the expansion and contraction.
I don't think these pads are gonna last for ever, but sure, very sure double or more time than the regular pastes. And basically will keep nice and cool temperatures until it will get too much dust or other type of factor that could make this not "last for ever". Even though these still a bargain to that very long longevity that these companies claim. And man your voice sounds like your're doing a documentary of National Geographic. Btw you can do a small parody documentary about laptops and their natural habitat, it will be very funny and maybe you probably will gain a lot of traction with this type of video.
Mini tomate Thanks! Look up De8aeur Carbonaut and he’ll explain these pads in some great detail. There’s a video with Gemer Nexus about it too. These are meant to last a very long time. Of course, time will tell 👍
Do you think that on these new intel ultra notebooks that dont have a gpu, the carbonaught would be better than stock paste and it would also mount evenly when screwing the heat pipes on.
I'm not an expert by any means, but it seems to me that with the carbonaut you got a much worse resault. Sure it looked much more uniformed 93 degrees all cores, but there were cores with 74 degrees using paste. Isn't it better having cores with much lower temperature than having all over 90 degrees?
