The Best Tobi Theories That Never Happened (Evil Naruto Timeline) 

Who did you think Tobi was before the revelation?

Laughing at the thumbnail, implies he either killed Naruto or he lost so bad he refused to fight again and learned time travel just to get back at Naruto

Imagine how funny it would be if Minato noticed that "Madara" was in fact his student "Obito, that you?" " **voice crack** NO I AM- **ahem, voice goes back to villain mode** -I AM MADARA UCHIHA"

Shisui was also nicknamed the teleporter but before we actually saw what that looked like, the only teleporter we'd seen onscreen was Tobi which likely gave further credence to the theory.

I actually had a friend who had no idea who Tobi was, I introduced Naruto to him and I got the PLEASURE to watch his reaction to Obito's reveal and Madara's presentation first hand

Tobi just had one eye in the mask. Sasuke now has just one eye. _Coincidence? _*_I DON'T THINK SO!_*

My favorite theory is that Tobi is Taiyuchi, the ramen guy. Obviously complete nonsense, even back then, but it's funny to think about and there are actually some things in favor of this theory: -He was the first person to be nice to Naruto, even before Iruka (which is kinda strange considering that the ENTIRE village shunned the kid). He made sure that Naruto would see him often and trust him. -We never see his eyes, they are always closed (or, well, not REALLY closed, but he always squints so they appear closed. Important is that we never see the iris) -In the Uchiha clan photo there is a guy left to Mikoto who looks a lot like him (also squinting) -In a flashback where we see 12-year-old Minato with his sensei Jiraiya, we also see his two teammates; one of which looks - again - a lot like a child Taiyuchi (and is, again, squinting)

It would’ve been cool if in the future Sasuke killed Naruto but encountered the Otsusuki’s by himself and they ravaged the world, stole Sasuke’s eye and sent him back in time somehow similarly to how Sasuke and Boruto got sent back in time in that filler episode. Then Sasuke took on the Tobi persona to gather the tailed beasts and the Infinite Tsukuyomi was actually needed to get him back to the future to get his left eye back and to get revenge.

2 things 1. Sasuke stopping Naruto from being hokage could be an interesting premise without it betraying naruto's character. I see it like Naruto could be an dictator of sorts but it's an reverse of what you might think. He enforces a peace policy to a tee that an power imbalance between Naruto and the village and it's what cause naruto's downfall as a hokage. Which is why Sasuke tries incredibly hard here to stop Naruto in the past from reaching that goal. 2. The only theory here i heard before the reveal was izuna being Tobi which captivated me considering beforehand I never heard izuna in anything and never knew what his backstory was until way later.

Well, in the end Naruto didn't really change the system that's responsible for most problems in the story so the future Sasuke theory wouldn't be so farfetched.

I always wanted Tobi to be Izuna, and he would have been acting against Madaras secret real plans, and eventually Madara would come back and have to deal with the mental trauma, as well as a direct foil for his long and well laid out plans, which would have had to necessitate them to be different than the eye of the moon plan, since that would be Izunas answer to whatever Madara would have wanted.

Izuna being Tobi would've been possible. He had the MS like Madara and was about as powerful, not to mention I see no reason he wouldn't have access to Izanagi. He would of course know the history of Madara and Hashirama and the alias "Tobi" makes just as much sense here as it goes with Obito, since Tobirama was his rival. Izuna's long lifespan could easily be attributed to either the gedo statue or Zestu, with Pain being used to bring Madara back alongside him. Dreams of a far future indeed!

I remember when we thought Pain was Naruto's dad, "Arashi."

I think the future sasuke theory came from naruto storm generations when madara literally reversed time and people probably assumed that sasuke somehow got that ability, generations came out months before the obito reveal so it makes sense.

Great video. I was there and saw a lot of those theories, good times man. My favorite was future evil Naruto. In a way that maintained since Óbito is basically Naruto gone wrong.

I love Tobi/Obito, I think he is one of the best written characters ever

We need a timeline, where after witnessing Boruto events unfolding, Sasuke goes back in time, slays Tobi and takes his identity to guide the shinobi history for centuries to come.

The funny thing is, I was literally thinking about what kinda theories people would’ve had about Tobi, and it made me very curious about the topic, thanks for this video!

I can't believe you didn't mention the theory about tobi being ichiraku. There were memes about that.

Bro, your channel and cool topics is what keeps Naruto fandom alive!

tobi = obito is my favourite obvious plot twist ever

Best Tobi theory is Ramen Guy is Tobi

somehow, this was one of the few plot twists that wasn't spoiled for me. adn thank god for that! which reminds me: one of the reasons i want to introduce my friends to naruto is so i can see their reaction to the plot-twists spoiler-free

Bro the sasuke theory was actually the most crazy ones, i would love to watch that shit unfolds fr and see Sasuke winning and fixes Naruto turns evil story

He could have been madara and sill kept wearing the mask if his battle with hashirama left him horribly disfigured.

I just wanted to let you know when I saw the title to your video I got like really excited on the inside. I don’t know maybe a nostalgic kind of excitement. I don’t know I’m really excited to watch the video cause you’re funny and stuff. Also, your opinions are pretty on point although I do find you a bit negative towards Burrito. No it’s not a spelling error but I also agree I just think you have a lot of experience and your fun to listen to. You should do more nostalgic videos like this just my opinion, and maybe show your face too. I’ve been telling our RU-vidrs that because I think it helps with the viewers.

The problem with the face reveal gimmick is that it pretty much requires to surprise the surrounding characters as well as the readers to work, otherwise there would be no point for a character hiding their face. At the moment Kakashi started to face Tobi, any unmasking sequence made his identity obvious. But if Tobi were anybody else the story would probably not have let Kakashi's team unmask Tobi, and have someone more relevant involved. So I don't think the Shisui option would have been rubbish, could have just found a way to make Edo-Itachi face him for example. Let's say Shisui's plan was to cast a more powerful Kotoamatsukami on the whole world to stop wars, sounds believable. Also, Tobi didn't even have to be specifically an Uchiha, could have gotten a Sharingan like Kakashi or Danzo. Could have even been some artificial humanoid creature like the Zetsus, that's what some people assumed after seeing his injuried arms turn into goo.

I remember when we all thougth pain was naruto's dad, those were the days

Personaly i subscribe to the theory of evil Naruto who want to dominate all the world and a Good Sasuke from the future who cames to stop him.

To me, Tobi was always obviously Obito. It took me until real Madara showed up for real for me to refer to this guy as Madara, in order to keep his identity a secret for my brother who was behind

I mean. We can change the whole "Naruto becomes evil" to "Somebody takes advantage of Naruto's naïveness and takes over the most powerful Kage in the world, crumbling the new ninja society." Somebody like one of the martians, because of course Kishi wants them FOREVER.

Obito being behind the mask was a widely accepted theory back before the reveal. People weren't surprised as far as I remember. Some were disappointed too or even angry.

I used to think it was shishui. But I’ll say it again, the whole ‘who is Tobi’ was a masterful plot device from kishimoto. That’s all ANYONE talked abt back in the day from what i remember

I got my coworker into naruto, he never watched anime outside of dbz so I've been trying so hard to keep him spoil free. He's on Sasuke v itachi/pain invasion

Time travel sasuke is silly. Going back in time to stop naruto, but decides to do the attack on the leaf that gets the 9 tails sealed into naruto in the first place. If he was the masked man, he would be a lot stronger than naruto if naruto didn't have the beast.

Personally, I've always thought it was Obito, because just like the reveal that Yondaime was Naruto's dad, it was really obvious from the get go; and I think it works well as a villain because Obito is kind of a foil to Naruto, an underdog with a very similar life experience of underestimation, failure, being overshadowed by a team mate, love triangle bs, etc. However, I think there's an universe out there where the reveal is Izuna and the war arc happens completely differently. Izuna is a great foil for Sasuke the same way Obito is for Naruto. He watches his brother being historically villifyied if he doesn't die, he'd be the one other survivor of the massacre with severe brotherly issues, and his plan could boil down to "Okay, it's either an Uchiha's Konoha now, or vengeance" and when he fails, he revives Madara proper. Sasuke fresh out of his trauma of learning the truth having to face an enemy that could be his equal in a lot of his motivations would be huge. Orochimaru, Danzo and Itachi gave him trouble, but they don't really challenge his morality or world views at the point they happen. The run to get stronger for vengeance only to have their vengeance be in vain because Madara and Itachi are fundamentally different characters having different goals could have been such a huge development.

The Shisui theory was always my favorite because I felt like after being betrayed by his village, his best friend, and having his whole clan deleted, he would definetly be happy with living in a perfect illusion, over the horrible life he got.

Hey dygo apart from your onimask revelation in rewrite please do make other mysterious revelations too. It would be really cool.

19:28 If you want to read a very good story (manhwa/webtoon) that has time travel introduced late on that is VERY well thought out, I recommend Kubera. Unlike for one-off plot twist (like in AoT), here time travel is just one plot point and doesn't even appear till few hundred chapters later, yet is executed perfectly. The hints are there, and there are a lot of them, but Kubera does a very good job with making hints and foreshadowing seem like normal dialogue. (For example, when one of a more minor characters is introduced, she says "oh, i remember him, he's a very good fighter" to the character that travels to the past later (won't spoil who that is), and he thinks "wtf i don't remember her, but it would be rude to say that". Well, he didn't remember, because much, MUCH later when we see this character's journey to the past, he meets her in the past and they fight a battle together. She doesn't know he is from the future of course. Also, another one that I love. There is a character that has been missing for quite some time. When one of our MCs asks a god about that character, the god replies "don't search, you will meet her once the time is right". Well, turns out we were supposed to take it literally, cause that character disappeared because the time traveller from before took her to his future from the past, making her disappear for quite some time lmao.)

another what if scenario would be future naruto or an alt naruto being tobi. he either had to do some very questionable decision as a hokage that he ends up regretting or he is backstabbed by someone close and ends up going back in time to get revenge on them. an alternative naruto could have ended up being hokage but on very different circumstances ie hes still hated by people and despite doing his best he ends up being kicked out the village due to people fearing him, he wanders aimlessly until he finds a way to set things straight. atleast thats what i can think of at the top of my head.

I've played the Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm games ever since I was a kid, with my older brother. So I've kinda known everything although I'm watching the anime for the first time now, to really learn stuff especially since the games skip a lot or go fast. (Currently on the Chiyo/Sasori stuff) Tobi was always my favorite as a kid because he reminded me so much of Deadpool and had very similar characteristics and even a similar type of voice. But I learned he wasn't in the span of only 20 to 30 minutes or so because of the games so I never had that. I wish he would have been a separate, goofy character, and just remained Deadpool like! Knowing he's serious does kinda ruin it for me because I like the original Tobi's personality a lot.

b4 i found out i thought it was a unknown Uchiha member tht wanted to js randomly wanted to end the leaf due to itachis actions

a somewhat common but not super common theory used to be that Kagami Uchiha is Tobi and that he he went missing in war and was thought to be dead but wasn't actually dead and ended up becoming Tobi and form the Akatsuki and so on was obviously not gonna be the case because even if it wasn't unrealistic it would've been probably the most boring and random outcome ever

I had no idea that tobi was obito until I finshed watching the series in 2022 lol.

I was of the mind of Obito hosting Madara in some form or fashion because the Masked Man's monicker was the Ghost of the Uchiha, his powers made him feel like a glitch in the world, like he doesn't belong, and a dead leagend inhabiting a younger, but broken body, meddling in the affairs of the present would fit so well. Especially scenes where the Masked Man posed as Madara, reminiscing about Hashirama, or on top of the Madara statue, his connection to Sasuke and grooming him to gain greater powers could've been because he saw a lot of Izuna in him, but couldn't save Izuna. Especially with how it was being revealed. Obito never acts like the Masked Man, if the Reanimation literally ripped Madara's soul from his body and transplanted it into the Reanimated body. Then the nhilistic Obito, who wanted to live a passive life because he considered the world Hell, would suddenly be thrusted back into the driver seat. This would explain why his fighting style and personality was so different from before because Obito is a distinctive individual from Madara. Also why Madara would be playing around so much after being reanimated because if you spent the last several decades cunniving and scheming in borken bodies, a shell of your former self, then suddenly are thrusted back into your prime. Anyone might be understandly get carried away. Also the Yamanaka Mind Transfer jutsus would make the process so easy, but defintely a forbidden practice.

If the ramen guy was behind the mask it would've been great comedy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Remember the future josuke theory?

From the words of the joker "all it takes is one bad day"

I still remember those theory's that pain the leader of the Akatsuki was actually minato which when you think about it would hit so god damn hard imagen Nagato being so pissed at the leaf for all it's done to him (Jiraiya sensei aside) they killed his family and best friend so for an act of vengeance (and world peace) Nagato would get a hold of minato's corpes and use his chakra rods to control his body attacking the leaf as the leader pain

It makes more sense for it in be itachi from the future because he even tells sasuke abt itachi’s past after the fight

5:29 this is what I thought at first, I knew it was obito, but I didn’t know he impersonated madara.

Not ready for the random spoilers of other anime.

Maybe instead of an evil Naruto, but a Naruto possessed by Kurama.

Back to the future, done right?

Naruto didn't have to be evil for the Time travelling one. All Naruto needed to do is fail to stop war just like Hashirama. Sasuke could have had his own end of the valley fight but in his timeline the eye of the moon plan never happened. Maybe Naruto died and he needed Ashura's chakra or something, or too many biju died in a future war.... This theory fell apart from me when Sasuke's 2nd ability was some sort of short-term time travel (think 5 seconds) but instead it was just kagetsuchi. The theory had potential, very personal stakes and, so long as biju level chakra is needed for Sasuke to ever time travel over years again, Logic.

I like that sasuke theory honestly. An OP naruto ruling the ninja world providing “peace” through dominance would be interesting

Some guy on youtube actually theorized Obito as Tobi super back then

If toby was madera. It also ruins his char by making him a goober for the entire show up until then.

i always thought it was Obito because of the letters in his name. I thought he just shuffles Obito into Tobi and didnt add the other O

dude that AOT spoiler was massive :(

I think Kagami being Tobi would be more interesting than Shisui, even for the Plot.

Def remember the Shusui theory.

I remember my friend watching through thought it was Madara inhabiting Obito’s body. The other personality was the real Obito leaking out. Izuna was theory 2.

I feel like naruto being an evil hokage could of been a cool are when everyone was in the infinite tsukuyomi

I always thought it was Madara's brother.

Naruto being a cruel kage is awesome instead of a cliche ending

Naruto becoming evil doesn't sound that crazy considering Obito had the same Naruto mentality as a child yet did many evil acts. I remembering thinking it was too obvious just to be Obito. It too thought it was Obito's body being controlled. I felt there should have been some sort of bigger twist. I also thought Rin might have been a spy in the short period of when we see Kakashi kill her, and the point where it was revealed she threw herself onto his chidori to stop the three tails rampage.

I kinda remember the future sasuke theories, I believed it for a little bit but I was so damn young so cant blame me

Hey Dygo where are all of your Boruto videos? Can’t find them 🤨

Well, it could have worked as madara for say Incredible scarring or so, he hides his face because scars, or that he wad edo tensei, many options

Once the flip the name theory was put out it was obvious at that point

I knew it was Obito back then because of the way his name was spelled😎👍🏽😂😂😂💯

I remember being being in a forum talking about who Tobi was back in the day and one guy said it cant be Obito, thats too obvious. People can make therories of anything, thats the fun part, but I dont see how this was a surprise to people who were theorizing at the time. I mean you can literally spell out Tobi's name using the letters in Obito and his hair is basically identical.

Ok so this is a theory me and a friend created at the time of the danzo fight just before the war. we thought that its either 1 of 2 scenarios. 1.Tobi is obito. 2. Tobi is kagami Uchiha, he has relation to danzo so he should have some level of anbu info which gave credence to him escaping before the massacre and him wanting to destroy the leaf was due to what danzo ordered itachi to do. abit of a stretch possibly

I got spoiled😂

Great video but I wish you would have warned about spoilers concerning another series :/.

I also used to think that Tobi was Izuna due to Tobi telling Sasuke that, like him, he too was a survivor, and also because of Itachi's Genjutsu Flashback showing Sasuke, Madara taking out his eye.

Best theory is that Tobi was the ramen shop guy all along.

I knew Tobi was obito from a very young age, they showed him doin his signature pose and I knew

Tobi being Madara made more sense than people think. Remember Kurama's ability to read chakra signatures? The ability Naruto used to know who the Zetsu mixed with the ninja alliance were? When Kurama was summoned by Tobi, he looked at him and went "You!", as if he knew Tobi from somewhere, and the only person that summoned him prior was Madara himself. Mask or not, Kurama should have known who that was by his chakra signature, and combined with the fact that he had already summoned him, Kurama confusing Tobi to be Madara is just flawed writing.

actually the tobi being shisui actually could make more sense cause his name was like something about teleportation

Sometimes people forget that movies are scenes are not just exhibit for viewers, they should be a sense or liveness and proving of points to a scene present in each scene else it will be like a staged drama where the actors are aware of your presence but act like they are not. Showing the face to people like konan and nagato will actually prove no point. Naruto doesn't know how the first hokage looks like in real life.

i always thought it madara was possessing obito. More like how naruto and kurama are like. I thought obito let madara possess him after learning about Rin’s death. Since we never saw where rin was after kakashi chronicles.

Tbf, Obito was the most obvious, too obvious, therefore, a lot of people (myself include) through that was a bait

Back then what sold me "Tobi is Obito" is that Kakashi Gaiden doesn't feel like it's only to set up Kakashi backstory.

I just rearranged the letters and assumed he was Obito given Kakashi and him had a similar sharingan ability. それはそう

You forgot the best one. There was an Uchiha in a flashback that always had his eyes closed, and some people said he was Ichiraku, and Ichiraku was tobi.

19:18 it's a fanfic. A good one but a fanfic none the less.

It's odd how no one questions tobi being madara considering he should be dead by old age

Madara possessing obito was always what I wanted

its still very weird to me thats they made tobi a funny or weird character and all akatsuki members just accepted him as a weak member and then they changed the story that tobi was leading akatsuki it doesnt make sense to me

Remember when we theorised Minato was the leader of the Akatsuki?

18:57 blud doesnt care enough for her to became tyrant 😂😂 like i would understand Sakura or kakashi or garaa not hinata..like you can say WHAT about pain arc okay he turned into 6 Tails but i think naruto would turned for anyone who is close to him..there more people who far more close to him than Hinata..idk if dygo making this up..or this is in the Theory

It is interesting that you say it would be disappointing if he actually was Madara all along. Because that's how it felt like with Obito, at least within the german community xD Since we got to see very early what happened to Obito and which eye was "crushed" and which one he gave to Kakashi, a lot of people here were like: "Yep, it is Obito." When he said he was Madara the people still were like: "No, you are Obito." and when the big "plot twist came" many were laughing cause it was so obvious^^

The only good use of time travel in anime is in dragon ball Z . Trunks returning to past telling the cast about the upcoming villains.

The thought never even crossed my mind that tobi wasn’t actually madara😂😂 (not even when madara was reanimated that just confused me)

That would been a good plot twist future sasuke or even Menma would have been cool twist naruto from the Alternate Dimension basicly obito could been anyone under that mask.

It was always known it was obito in my circle. Either him or Madara. But it didn’t take away the impact because at that point it was “oh fuck it really IS him shit”

Even though I've seen a lot of anime, I went into Naruto completely blind. Luckily I wasn't spoiled for anything I was so shocked when the mask broke and it was Obito xD

who else knew tobi was obito way before his reveal😂