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Комментарии : 23 тыс.   
@Rj-kl4ui
@Rj-kl4ui 3 года назад
I feel like he wrote this script while waiting to board a plane.
@rimurudono3005
@rimurudono3005 3 года назад
I bet he did this animation at the airplane
@mattripodi6474
@mattripodi6474 3 года назад
This boy does a LOT of research, research none would be fulfilled doing on a single screen phone compared to a 2-3 monitor setup with note paper.
@Xevion
@Xevion 3 года назад
@@mattripodi6474 He could be on a laptop, as shown at 4:46.
@Akira-ss6cm
@Akira-ss6cm 3 года назад
I think it's more likely a recent flight inspired him to make a video on it.
@isaiahstephen6487
@isaiahstephen6487 3 года назад
Wow stolen
@Naxthural
@Naxthural 3 года назад
"The human inability to follow instructions is breathtaking". That aged well.
@livingthedream3329
@livingthedream3329 3 года назад
ppl sadly stupid, or just too different in cultures :/
@ygotsvlog3762
@ygotsvlog3762 3 года назад
@@livingthedream3329 yea
@ygotsvlog3762
@ygotsvlog3762 3 года назад
@@livingthedream3329 normal people are normal they usa the mostly used one
@pluggothesluggo5509
@pluggothesluggo5509 3 года назад
comunities like china and japan probably follow instructions like these way better than americans do, so it might work in asia
@ygotsvlog3762
@ygotsvlog3762 3 года назад
@@pluggothesluggo5509 well
@soapiesoap5649
@soapiesoap5649 Год назад
Having worked in aviation for years (cabin crew for many) I can’t even begin to explain how badly normal people who ordinarily excel in everyday life seem to completely loose all sense of intelligence the moment the enter an airport.
@oliversteiner9019
@oliversteiner9019 Год назад
Worked in holiday Ressorts & I used to say exactly that… people somehow don’t fit their brain into the suitcase when traveling 🙈
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Год назад
That’s probably the sleep deprivation and aggravation at humanity talking
@thatoneperson134
@thatoneperson134 Год назад
“No signs of intelligent life here”
@yann664
@yann664 Год назад
It's because people are constantly being told what to do and the more directive you get over someone the more they switch off their own sense of responsibility.
@gowrit.714
@gowrit.714 Год назад
I work at a hospital Starbucks and you’d be surprised how many doctors and nurses loose all intelligence in line for coffee
@equidistanthoneyjoy7600
@equidistanthoneyjoy7600 Год назад
If you wanted the slowest possible method of boarding, front to back seems decent enough, but doing the Steffen method in reverse seems ideal. Front to back, don't alternate, seated from the aisles out to the window. Maximises seat shuffling, minimises pullaways and parallels. Call it the Steffen Corrupted.
@LtLeo
@LtLeo Год назад
This method would only be used by sadists. Well done.
@IYIiZZerY
@IYIiZZerY Год назад
This comment wins lmao
@jaylongavrel4234
@jaylongavrel4234 Год назад
@@LtLeo don’t give ideas to Ryan Air
@speeder3235
@speeder3235 Год назад
this man went full malice. even satan fears him a little
@alexuvar1
@alexuvar1 Год назад
The Neffets method
@johnster02
@johnster02 2 года назад
“to achieve this ballet, there are no boarding groups…” magnificent
@hypers3007
@hypers3007 2 года назад
one can only dream...
@ryedj707
@ryedj707 2 года назад
Socialists everywhere rejoice
@mariocastello8746
@mariocastello8746 2 года назад
I get why he says that but it's also sorta like there's dozens of boarding groups, one for each passenger
@Blindingstarshine
@Blindingstarshine 2 года назад
@@mariocastello8746Yeah, it's definitely X boarding group for X people. No groups would be the old method of letting people get on in no order at all.
@mckiyahcarlson8507
@mckiyahcarlson8507 2 года назад
i it
@seancpp
@seancpp 3 года назад
*"The human inability to follow instructions is breathtaking."*
@kateshiningdeer3334
@kateshiningdeer3334 3 года назад
A great and deep truth, there! Goes right along with "Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity."!
@Havron
@Havron 3 года назад
@@kateshiningdeer3334 Ah, good ol' Hanlon's razor.
@n34x57
@n34x57 3 года назад
@Serbian do you wear seatbelts
@n34x57
@n34x57 3 года назад
@Serbian so your'e a nudist who only wears clothes to go shopping?
@man-throwing-thing
@man-throwing-thing 3 года назад
No, you’re breathtaking!
@clashingimages
@clashingimages Год назад
As an airline pilot let me give you my 2 cents. Passengers don't slow down loading, cargo baggage does. The time it takes to get people's bags under the aircraft takes forever. The passenger will actually board before their bag goes through all the extra security on it's way to the plane.
@brasteryakintosh9418
@brasteryakintosh9418 Год назад
Yea. If airlines made it cheaper to check more luggage and just didn’t allow carryons except in necessary cases, it would probably make air travel more convenient in general. Boarding would be faster, TSA checks would be faster, and passengers wouldn’t have to wheel around heavy suitcases except when they’re entering and leaving the airport. But that would likely only happen if air travel were nationalized
@goldmidwest
@goldmidwest Год назад
@@brasteryakintosh9418 Ironically, Clashing Images Productions was actually making the exact opposite point you think you're agreeing with. They're saying that it's *checked* baggage that slow down the process the most, *not* carry-on baggage. Although I get your perspective, as I'm sure most of us regular passengers would, that it seems to us like the carry-on luggage being stowed in the over-head bins are the culprit, OP being a pilot is saying that from inside the system, it's what you don't see that is really slowing you down
@wrockage
@wrockage Год назад
huh, that's an excellent point. if you look out the window you often see the baggage getting loaded even after everyone has more or less settled inside.
@tchevrier
@tchevrier Год назад
@@brasteryakintosh9418 flying is so cheap already.
@user-cs6bg4zp5q
@user-cs6bg4zp5q Год назад
@@tchevrier It is not. Maybe inside a country with many airlines on the market competing with the prices, but globally it is still hella expensive.
@DayZeroGaming
@DayZeroGaming Год назад
Shout out to the guys who only bring 1 bag and literally sit in their seat and then slide the backpack under their seat. You are Steffen Perfect
@bwillan
@bwillan Год назад
Tell me about it, people these days really abuse the carry on luggage allowances and really overstuff their bags.
@jaimepolanco7320
@jaimepolanco7320 Год назад
I don't even bring a carry on bag 😂
@iowsiam492
@iowsiam492 Год назад
I always do that, sure I get if you're going away for weeks, but you can easily fit 3 days of clothes into a single backpack, and as long as its light enough you dont even need to store it in the plane. The only thing you need to take in, is a carry on that you just put under your seat
@META_mahn
@META_mahn Год назад
As a guy whose current job is to fly around all over the nation doing installations, who always does one checked bag and one backpack, you're welcome.
@capybaraponque611
@capybaraponque611 Год назад
@@META_mahn You still check a bag, you're not helping much.
@whynotjustmyusername
@whynotjustmyusername 3 года назад
Actually, the first encounter I ever had with boarding groups was on a flight to the US. All flights I have had before, mainly in Europe, were what you describe as: "Hey guys, plane's ready."
@durdleduc8520
@durdleduc8520 2 года назад
southwest airlines sort of has the inverse of the random method. you're not assigned seats, and though you're supposed to stand in an exact order, the boarding groups are only for economic incentives. when you get on the plane, you can sit anywhere you'd like.
@notcool2870
@notcool2870 2 года назад
Even the Asian airlines usually avoid boarding groups at least in Singapore
@BriannaVantilburg
@BriannaVantilburg 2 года назад
same here is Australia. The only time ive been on a flight that boarded in groups was a fight from Dubai on one of those massive Airbusses.
@klemensk8776
@klemensk8776 2 года назад
Yea, I don't know if its a european thing, but most people that I see on a plane don't like keeping the rest of the passengers waiting and so put their bags a way as fast as possible
@marlun17
@marlun17 2 года назад
Im from the US, and I’ve mostly traveled in Europe when vacationing… but I agree, AND sometimes they’ll have both the front of the plane and back open for boarding.
@NotaCatGirll
@NotaCatGirll 4 года назад
Have the flight attendant crack a whip every time someone takes more than 5 seconds putting in their luggage
@2bit8bytes
@2bit8bytes 4 года назад
That's my fetish.
@Black70Fastback
@Black70Fastback 4 года назад
yesterday, i just witnessed a flight attendant fight over and over to get a center compartment closed with a hard bottom bag that was clearly too big for the compartment when it was JUST announced by the captain that the outboard compartments in this particular plane were larger and therefore the larger bags should go in the outboard compartments. This instruction was seemingly ignored by both passengers AND flight attendants and eventually took 2 flight attendants and 3 passengers to solve this conundrum. ...so i don't have a lot of faith in flight attendants being able to help the situation.
@looinrims
@looinrims 4 года назад
Wouldn’t work unless they’d actually hit people Also they’d get sued, now if I wouldn’t be sued for kicking people who do it...
@IloveRumania
@IloveRumania 4 года назад
this enraged the flight attendants, who will punish them severely.
@hollowmonarch9802
@hollowmonarch9802 4 года назад
The Looinrims make them sign a contract
@SpaceCaptainDR
@SpaceCaptainDR Год назад
As an airline pilot, I can say that the turnaround time is not normally limited by passenger boarding or deplaning. The refueling and cargo/bag loading take longer and limit the time. My opinion is that fewer rules to follow will give customers less to worry about.
@erynn9968
@erynn9968 Год назад
don't stop nerds solving logical puzzles that no one needs to be solved XD
@starinthefuture
@starinthefuture Год назад
from a user experience pov, if you make the boarding as quick as possible - the customer will assume they'll take off quicker, however, their assumptions will lead to disappointments due to the fact that, as you've mentioned, refueling and cargo loading takes a lot of time too. if you think about it logically, if the onboarding takes as much time as the refueling and the loading, once the person finally sits down, they're going to think that they will take off soon - which in this case would be the truth and sort of an illusion of "we're taking off as soon as everyone boards" and it doesn't matter how quickly the plane boards similarly, in the airports - if from the point you leave the plane, to the point you pick up your baggage is short and you arrive quicker than the baggage does, you are going to be annoyed. the best solution, which a lot of airports take approach on, is making the walk to the baggage area a lot longer than it needs to be, in this way, the illusion is, it isn't the baggage that is slow, we just need to walk a lot further to get to it. as people are doing a task that seems necessary, they aren't focused so much on what is going on in the background.
@WyvernYT
@WyvernYT Год назад
@@starinthefuture Yes, that. "Hey, everyone. Plane's here. Go ahead."
@flapoverspeed
@flapoverspeed Год назад
Air Cal would refuel, unload, reload, usually in fifteen minutes or less. Stairs front for boarding, aft stairs for deplaning.
@pjagasia
@pjagasia Год назад
May be it's time the author of the video makes a video about the fastest way to load luggage onto the plane!
@mnmike6884
@mnmike6884 Год назад
You forgot to factor in the limited overhead storage that the rear passengers use in the front as they pass by. Thereby making front passengers look for space further in and then have to swim back upstream against the traffic flow to get to their seat.
@rosyreverie
@rosyreverie Год назад
I never understood people who did that. If my seat is at the back I just carry my bag to the back. Makes it easier to find after the flight.
@user-is3dy7rp2e
@user-is3dy7rp2e Год назад
@@rosyreverie a lot of people are selfish pricks
@Sweet.peach21
@Sweet.peach21 Год назад
That’s a thing? That doesn’t even make sense? I thought it was common sense to put your luggage near you and the only time I didn’t was when all the spaces around my seat were taken.
@dchall8
@dchall8 Год назад
@@Sweet.peach21 It is most definitely a thing. Nevermind how it doesn't make sense. If they could I'm certain they would drop their luggage on the floor as they entered.
@raffiking1
@raffiking1 Год назад
@@Sweet.peach21 yes, the vast majority of people try to put their luggage close to where their seat is. But this gets harder to do, the more people have already done it and by the end it simply might not be possible anymore.
@rxmbo3749
@rxmbo3749 3 года назад
“You cant just open the boarding gate and let everyone flock in like cattle” UK: watch
@acousticanalyst5147
@acousticanalyst5147 3 года назад
not only that, most uk planes have a front and back entrance
@orionzspark
@orionzspark 3 года назад
shoutout ryanair for being the worst offender
@l1ttl3br0
@l1ttl3br0 3 года назад
@@acousticanalyst5147 front and back entrance makes so much sense. You effectively (in a perfect world) half the time by halving the queue in either side.
@nadiehtje10
@nadiehtje10 3 года назад
Same in the Netherlands Theres priority boarding and then theres the rest 😂😂
@jw748
@jw748 3 года назад
@@orionzspark Ryanair is not a UK airline.
@Adrian-rb4qp
@Adrian-rb4qp 4 года назад
I love how everyone is smiling happily in his dream outcome, and everyone is sad normally
@yoshi6584
@yoshi6584 4 года назад
omg i never noticed that
@polargrizbear992
@polargrizbear992 4 года назад
100 like club
@user-hs5bo1mp3z
@user-hs5bo1mp3z 4 года назад
That’s just life man
@that_one_doggo8391
@that_one_doggo8391 4 года назад
I didn’t realize how satisfying turning 999 likes to 1000 would be
@Adrian-rb4qp
@Adrian-rb4qp 4 года назад
That_One_Doggo i didn’t realise how many likes I had 😳
@equuleusp3150
@equuleusp3150 9 месяцев назад
i just went on a flight recently and they said: “boarding groups 1-4, 5, 6, everyone get on” and it was the fastest i’ve ever gotten on a plane and it made me think of this haha
@GalileoFigar0
@GalileoFigar0 Год назад
When boarding a domestic flight in Australia, as you enter the aerobridge, there is a sign which directs rows 1-15 to continue along the aerobridge and board the aircraft through the front door, and rows 15+ to walk down the stairs out onto the apron and board using the rear stairs, filling the plane from both ends.
@catpella
@catpella Год назад
if you can't manage stairs what happens? do you have to mark that at booking so you're in 1-15?
@Mariocraft97
@Mariocraft97 6 месяцев назад
​@@catpellaPeople with disabilities or other special needs will normally tick some box while ordering their ticket, and get priority boarding alongside first class.
@joeym5243
@joeym5243 3 года назад
Passengers: "BUT I WANNA GET ON THE PLANE NOW!" Crew: "the only difference is you're gonna sit in a plane instead of sitting in an airport. The plane leaves when it's ready, not when you are."
@sandyandrewsu
@sandyandrewsu 3 года назад
If you have a carryon, the biggest difference might be having the overhead storage fill up and having to wait for your bag to be brought to you after you de-plane.
@baydiac
@baydiac 3 года назад
@@sandyandrewsu For me, it’s anxiety. I’m constantly on edge until everything is put away on the plane and I’m seated, as if I’ve messed up somehow and it’ll leave without me unless I’m on it. Being already seated = no worries about some stranger in my seat I’ll have to coax/bully out of it, I don’t have to think about whether this is the right plane after all or I’m at the wrong gate, all my stuff is accounted for and I have nothing else to think/worry about that’s under my control. Obviously, being nervous means I don’t have the cojones to be a Karen/Darren and yell at crew for not hurrying me on already though lmao, waiting in queues is a part of life. No clue how people get so entitled.
@DFWRailVideos
@DFWRailVideos 3 года назад
*The plane doesn't arrive when it wants to, only when I want to*
@CRAZY-M6641
@CRAZY-M6641 3 года назад
Facts!
@aidenlin2817
@aidenlin2817 3 года назад
and that’s why I like to wait until the majority of passengers get on the plane and then get on the board. I’m just too lazy to stand and wait in the line.
@susanbland6790
@susanbland6790 3 года назад
I have flown a lot in my 58 years and I will say the real problem began when airlines started charging extra for luggage. Suddenly everyone had carry-ons and this slowed boarding down dramatically. I remember the day when the only thing I took on the plane was my handbag, which I stowed under the seat in front of me after I was seated.
@22adel51
@22adel51 3 года назад
@Steve Acho Really !! I live in Europe and every time I take a flight I have this exact message "The flight is complete, so we advise you to leave your hand luggage in the hold at no extra charge". I did it all the time and I even wish that the flight will be complete
@LC-sc3en
@LC-sc3en 3 года назад
I think there is also something to be said about baggage claim inefficiencies. Sometimes if you check a bag and have a connecting flight the underluggage doesn't make the transfer leaving you stranded with whatever you could fit in your purse for a day. Also, waiting for 40 min at your final destination for the baggage to start coming down the carousel even if you didn't transfer. Then having to wait for the luggage to make enough rounds that you can tell if it was lost or damaged is a huge waste of time. Especially in countries where instead of forming a circle standing well back from the carousel so everyone has a clear view and path to the bags, and can grab theirs as soon as it lands on their side, the people crowd right up to the side to wait for the bags. Resulting in shoving through people,, walking around people for better views, chasing your bag around the carousel or waiting for another revolution because you can't get to it in time with all the people in the way. And finally dragging your bag through a throng of randomly placed people doing the same. I avoid checked luggage not only for the fees. But by preference.
@fazdoll
@fazdoll 3 года назад
I guess the way to get around it is to allow one bag checked free and instead charge for using the overhead bins. If you book a connecting flight less than, say, 1 hour layover time, the computer would know that and offer you a free space in the overhead bin. Then the only people using the bins would be business travelers and people on their first leg of travel. It's a compromise.
@connie1wilson
@connie1wilson 3 года назад
@@fazdoll - The policing would then cause the hold-ups.
@truepeacenik
@truepeacenik 3 года назад
As a one bag traveler, who uses under seat, I agree.
@rphb5870
@rphb5870 Год назад
It is funny to think that no boarding system at all is superior to every boarding system used by airlines today.
@BlueSkyeDays.
@BlueSkyeDays. Год назад
The only country that uses boarding groups is America. Everywhere else has no boarding system.
@rphb5870
@rphb5870 Год назад
@@BlueSkyeDays. I wouldn't know, I have never been in an airport. I have said it before, I am not afraid of flying, but I demand the same conditions that I get on a port. Me arriving 30 minutes before takeoff and the only security being me showing my passport and the ticket. What do I have in my bag? that is none of your business. but for the sake of argument lets just say that it is a kilogram of cocaine, a kilogram of plastic explosive with a detonator, and a fully loaded AK-47
@shitofpaperlol
@shitofpaperlol Год назад
Can I volunteer an idea to help with human’s inability to follow instructions ? It’s the fact that when people don’t know you’re breaking a rule, it’s much easier to break it. An example is people boarding the plane although it’s not their group’s turn. In comparison, when plane staff calls people group by group to UNBOARD the plane (row 1 to 15, 15 to 30 and so on), people tend to follow that rule much more, otherwise it’s OBVIOUS they’re braking it and are trying to take advantage of the system and go past people they were not meant to. SO an idea would be to make rule breaking obvious from the start, for example by printing boarding passes of different colors, and calling them out by colors (« we now invite passengers with a RED ticket to board the plane »). This would draw attention to the ticket’s color which is obvious to everyone, and people couldn’t hope that the front desk staff will « not notice » that they’re from another group. In my mind, it works !
@jeremygray8753
@jeremygray8753 Год назад
That's pretty clever
@carsenyoung1746
@carsenyoung1746 Год назад
I like the idea, however printed boarding passes are not quite a thing of the past yet but they are going that way. I don't really recall the last time I had a paper boarding pass versus just a QR code on my phone and while certainly they could make the image on the phone screen color coded, the fact that you don't even need to turn your phone screen on until you get up to the gate agent would make it less obvious to those around you.
@13ikea
@13ikea Год назад
Boarding when your group is called is ineffective in my opinion. I say that because every time I did that, there was t any overhead room left above my seat. People store multiple things in the bins instead of below the seat.
@KimonFrousios
@KimonFrousios Год назад
Colourblindness aside, it wouldn't help anyway as boarding passes are becoming digital, mere QR codes on people's phones.
@amazinglats6020
@amazinglats6020 Год назад
I’m sure it’s more expensive to color a ticket then just have it white with black text. Plus even when everybody is seated you’re usually still waiting on the luggage to be put in the bottom of the plan so realistically it doesn’t matter how fast the plane is boarded.
@vartolu3014
@vartolu3014 2 года назад
I’ve been flying for 20 years and not once have I boarded with “window, middle aisle.”
@somedumbspammer4408
@somedumbspammer4408 2 года назад
same
@Arewmon
@Arewmon 2 года назад
I've done it exactly once. In Japan. Because of course it was in Japan. It was a sight to behold, the whole gate was empty until like 20 minutes prior when suddenly the entire group of passengers came down the hallway and immediately proceeded to be boarded efficiently in about 15 before the plane took off for an on time departure. I'm still not entirely convinced I didn't just dream it, but I know I got to Osaka that day somehow.
@nathan-qx2ep
@nathan-qx2ep 2 года назад
honestly thats awful in real life application. if its a mother with 2 kids flying they will all be split up
@somedumbspammer4408
@somedumbspammer4408 2 года назад
All the time I was flying I have only ever boarded with "random"
@selin_theinsan
@selin_theinsan 2 года назад
Eyy you’re Turkish
@bushikao
@bushikao 2 года назад
ill admit, when i clicked on this vid i did not expect such poetic interjections
@zyaicob
@zyaicob 2 года назад
Welcome to CGP Grey
@akokate1151
@akokate1151 2 года назад
he definately spends a monthon the script itself
@Failzz8
@Failzz8 Год назад
The ending is the most tragic part by far. Not only is leaving the plane incredibly slow, but optimising that process would be so simple, it's easy and intuitive to explain to people. You'd just have to get one side of the aisle row to stand up and leave, then the other side aisle, then middle etc.
@Mariocraft97
@Mariocraft97 6 месяцев назад
And families who can't seperate gotta wait till the end? Or something
@Abyssionknight
@Abyssionknight Год назад
I was on a flight a few months ago and they had a different method where the plane had a door at the front and one at the rear. So it went front to middle and back to middle simultaneously. Seemed like a smart idea, except for the fact that you inevitably got people near the back who entered from the front, or vice versa, and all of a sudden you had an even larger traffic jam than before, since now both lines were getting stopped by whatever random person didn't enter from the correct door and was trying to move against the flow...
@l1ghtd3m0n3
@l1ghtd3m0n3 Год назад
Never claim something is the slowest, for the reaper always has something slower
@AmeyaVaidyaExEcutESC2
@AmeyaVaidyaExEcutESC2 Год назад
I have seen this boarding technique before. It never works as expected because, like you said, people have an innate inability to follow basic rules on an airport. It's like they leave all their senses at home when they leave for the airport.
@qrzupsjohnson707
@qrzupsjohnson707 Год назад
This seems like a resolvable concern. For example, we won’t allow you to board the wrong passenger boarding bridge.
@LOLquendoTV
@LOLquendoTV 3 года назад
This video is definitely a curse, every single time I am waiting to leave a plane It will pop into my mind as I wait far too long for people in front of me to leave
@MrPromitheus
@MrPromitheus 3 года назад
If it makes you feel better, there's still a ton of work that has to happen in the background before a plane is ready to takeoff. They gotta load luggage, refuel, routine inspections, personnel swaps etc. All that is to say, there have been plenty of times where everyone boards the plane and the plane still sits at the gate for another 5-10 minutes sorting out whatever miscellaneous stuff needs doing. Meaning a faster boarding time wouldn't have equated to a faster takeoff at all
@mellow_mallow
@mellow_mallow 2 года назад
@@MrPromitheus my favorite is when the boarding goes really fast but then I sit in the plane on the tarmac for an hour because some undefined thing is wrong and we can't taxi or take off until it's fixed. I mean I get it, I can't be upset that there's an issue with some important thing, but it's still a little funny.
@aujapal350
@aujapal350 2 года назад
front to back unboarding is to prevent tipping is certain type of a/c. google aircraft tipping to see better
@venombug7476
@venombug7476 2 года назад
That's why I have been instilled with the moral to stay in my seat or stand at my seat while those behind me go foward.
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 5 лет назад
"For every complex problem there is a solution that is both simple, obvious and wrong."
@toastuart9301
@toastuart9301 5 лет назад
You got lots of likes
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 5 лет назад
@@toastuart9301 I did not expect it myself. But I was quoting what someone else had on their forum signature. It just seemed very fitting for the initial listing.
@crysanthiumvega
@crysanthiumvega 5 лет назад
Occam's Miracle Hair Gel
@metadragon7500
@metadragon7500 5 лет назад
Why call it a solution then?
@emilglud3245
@emilglud3245 5 лет назад
"H. L. Mencken wrote that for every complex human problem, there is a solution that is neat, simple and wrong. Government hiring as a solution to unemployment is such a case. ... Mencken once observed, for every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, obvious, and wrong." quoteinvestigator.com/2016/07/17/solution/
@Marenthyu
@Marenthyu 7 месяцев назад
I just love coming back to this video whenever I board a Plane. I have "Boarding Group 51" right now. I'll get up from my waiting seat towards the end of it, since i have an aisle seat.
@tokodan
@tokodan Год назад
The fastest way, and applicable in low cost airlines, would be to not assign seats in advance, but print the seat allocation at the gate. This way, we can fill out the plane back to front and window to aisle simultaneously, and maintain groups sitting together.
@maifahy8404
@maifahy8404 4 года назад
The second sentence of this video: “You can’t just throw open the gates.” *proceeds to explain that it’s more efficient to throw open the gates*
@eran5005
@eran5005 4 года назад
TheDiamondStudio 562 it’s called irony and sarcasm. People can’t grasp that no system is better than a bad system and Grey is being cheeky about it
@GeeTransit
@GeeTransit 4 года назад
@@eran5005 edit: _very_ cheeky about it
@G1NZOU
@G1NZOU 4 года назад
If everyone was a computer simulated person who just found a seat automatically, then sure, opening the gates and letting them at it would technically work, but real life doesn't work like that, people would get into arguments, one person would get on and try claiming two rows of seats "because their family is boarding soon" and not budge like people do in parking lots, and it would just end up a mess.
@G1NZOU
@G1NZOU 4 года назад
Like a parent who's child is sitting next to them in the window seat while they sit in the middle seat, a lot of parents would be uncomfortable letting their child board first while they stand in perfect line for efficiency's sake, so while in theory a perfect order line looks great, humans are not comfortable following the rules.
@ColateralDamage
@ColateralDamage 4 года назад
@@G1NZOU I get your point but in the throw open the gates method I would assume you bring your whole family or at least the family in the same set of seats with you. Also you still have boarding passes with assigned seats so you don't go completly wild and just claim any random seat, that way lies madness. The benefit was groups of people would find their assigned seats and stow luggage randomly thoughout the plane, increasing the pullaways and parallels.
@RebuUber
@RebuUber 5 лет назад
How bad was ur flight man
@jetjazz05
@jetjazz05 5 лет назад
@Dcard Dcardian on the inside... does that count?
@otheraccount5252
@otheraccount5252 5 лет назад
Well the reaper was on it.
@ethancarlos3809
@ethancarlos3809 5 лет назад
use 2 doors 2x efficiency
@deflatedpancake9517
@deflatedpancake9517 5 лет назад
@Kadance Collins same
@jacksonjackson4178
@jacksonjackson4178 5 лет назад
the baby cried the hole time Rebu
@Daily_Llama
@Daily_Llama Год назад
4:30 The seat shuffle is a HUGE DEAL. You’re just looking at the aggregate but if you look at individual frustration, a lot of Bonobo bickering would be solved and less people would flip out and delay the entire flight so they can de board the person suffering at the hands of Parkinson’s Law.
@LClarke
@LClarke Год назад
huh? You sound like an airline seating specialist on crack.
@SecretAsianMan2222
@SecretAsianMan2222 Год назад
I have almost always flown with Delta and they load front to back. I had always heard about how they were evil, but I didn't realize they were actually the reaper.
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 5 лет назад
I feel like CGP Grey made this video while having a 12 hour layover for his flight
@daniwalmsley611
@daniwalmsley611 5 лет назад
rejvaik his work flow is weeks of research followed by script writing and then a weekend of animation. Thats one hell of a lay over. Not the worst ive seen tho
@brycehambelton1575
@brycehambelton1575 4 года назад
If I hade that long of a layover with no sleep, I would literally go insane
@therealdave06
@therealdave06 4 года назад
@@daniwalmsley611 I think they made a joke
@daniwalmsley611
@daniwalmsley611 4 года назад
SomeDawidGuy I was making a joke about ridiculously long lay overs
@user-dw4ji5qq5k
@user-dw4ji5qq5k 4 года назад
@@therealdave06 r/woooosh
@A.R.77
@A.R.77 4 года назад
I'm sticking with my theory of having the seats on the outside of the plane.
@samped36
@samped36 4 года назад
Enjoy the breeze!
@thecanadianfuhrer8602
@thecanadianfuhrer8602 4 года назад
how about we cover the plane in flypaper and slingshot passengers at the fuselage. no seats needed.
@MartinLeong25
@MartinLeong25 4 года назад
@@thecanadianfuhrer8602 cursed *yeet*
@kishorekumarsathishkumar1562
@kishorekumarsathishkumar1562 4 года назад
imagine if the flight turned and you didn't have a seatbelt on
@diamondsky3787
@diamondsky3787 3 года назад
@@thecanadianfuhrer8602 i see that you are man of HOI4
@eee-th8yk
@eee-th8yk Год назад
Why are CGP Grey's wording rhymes so nicing but yet not so noticeable? Love it
@loverrlee
@loverrlee Год назад
This is why when I am on a plane I pick the very last row and I blissfully wait my turn both boarding and exiting, because the real bliss is to not let the time it takes get you in a bad mood. If you approach life in this way, everyday is a vacation because you’re just happy to be on a plane at all, remembering all the souls who never have or never will have that privilege. It’s all about perspective.
@Mariocraft97
@Mariocraft97 6 месяцев назад
It's SO FUN sitting back while the entire rest of the plane is stressing to deboard. I'll listen to music, read a book, or generally relax until the plane is close to empty. Amazingly relaxing compared to standing for 5-10min like fish in a barrel.
@thebugbear9198
@thebugbear9198 2 года назад
As a European, I genuinely thought that everyone just did the “planes here” method
@bram1dewit
@bram1dewit 2 года назад
Same, I've never heard of boarding groups before this video
@ManiacX1999
@ManiacX1999 2 года назад
USA used to about 10~15 years ago
@RockSprites
@RockSprites 2 года назад
In the U.S., it's a way for airlines to make more money. You pay more to board earlier.
@chicoktc
@chicoktc 2 года назад
@@RockSprites I never understood this concept. I want to be the last to board. I would pay extra to sit in a bar and be texted when my seat is ready and all the simpletons are waiting. Of course, with guaranteed luggage space. That's the priority I want
@hannahblurp9360
@hannahblurp9360 2 года назад
@@chicoktc I wouldn't trust the plane not to leave without me
@NikoBellic069
@NikoBellic069 2 года назад
5:35 probably one of the best usages of Tchaikovsky’s Waltz of the Flowers
@pancakes1427
@pancakes1427 2 года назад
It was timed perfectly😭
@VArsovski10
@VArsovski10 2 года назад
6:35-6:36 was timed perfectly also 🤣
@kaylanek1
@kaylanek1 2 года назад
Yes 😂
@cake_404
@cake_404 2 года назад
so thats what its called
@cecerva
@cecerva 2 года назад
@@cake_404 yes
@patrickb6341
@patrickb6341 Год назад
Never seen window-to-aisle in reality, but I would love to observe how families with kids or groups in general react to this 😄
@martinamonaco8273
@martinamonaco8273 Год назад
Lufthansa uses the window-middle-aisle method (groups 3, 4, and 5, respectively). Families are a non-issue because they're always entitled to priority boarding
@agentm10
@agentm10 Год назад
According to this video, the fastest boarding time is to have the people sit in their seats before they board the plane and teleport them inside the fuselage.
@martincloud1323
@martincloud1323 3 года назад
That's weird. Here in Europe everytime I have flown somewhere, they just announced: "The plane is here, you can start boarding". And everyone just starts boarding. Without any groups or anything.
@taggamer335
@taggamer335 3 года назад
Same here in Asia. I saw other comments saying that boarding groups were an american thing.
@maifelicia1684
@maifelicia1684 3 года назад
There's definitely boarding groups in Europe too. Depends on the airline.
@arminkuburas1696
@arminkuburas1696 3 года назад
They're definitely a thing in Europe
@GrandRiserOfficial
@GrandRiserOfficial 3 года назад
@@taggamer335 in indonesia certain flights have groupings
@xs.en.ia.
@xs.en.ia. 3 года назад
Same
@MitchellWiggs
@MitchellWiggs 3 года назад
I like that the guy in 1D had his martini the whole time
@ineedabadbleep1557
@ineedabadbleep1557 3 года назад
i thought you meant 1 direction and was so confused which guy
@MooMooBruh
@MooMooBruh 3 года назад
It's funny you come here indirectly begging for subs and likes because your verified but you don't get any
@asylumskp4391
@asylumskp4391 3 года назад
I thought you meant a guy who was drawn in 1st dimension
@moo8866
@moo8866 3 года назад
thats 2d, sir
@FabiTheFreak
@FabiTheFreak 3 года назад
That, my sir is 2D.
@cryptickcryptick2241
@cryptickcryptick2241 Год назад
This could easily be solved by having assigned seating in the waiting area. Each seat would have various numbers or labels that would correspond with the waiting area. People would come in and sit in their seat in the order they will be on the airplane. Then one entire row all window A seats could get up at the same time and single file go onto the plane back to front. Now airports have a variety of airplanes, and so it would not be needed to shuffle chairs, one could have different labels (green, blue, red,) and if using airplane A everyone sits in seats according to that color label. A flight attendent could walk around and help people as needed ahead of time, if there were difficulties in getting ready. It might also be easier to do every other row. (We are now boarding A seats even numbers, we are boarding A seats odd numbers.) If the seats were laid out carpet colors or tape on the carpet could make it easier for everyone to "know" where they are on the airplane. This could even include indications for bathrooms and or emergency exits. As parties want to board together, they wait till the last person in the party boards.
@leopoldstotch7711
@leopoldstotch7711 Год назад
*HIRE THIS MAN*
@LClarke
@LClarke Год назад
@@leopoldstotch7711 Not so fast. This post graduate solution does not account for the multitude of different airframes--and their associated seating schema--that fly out of a given gate.
@leopoldstotch7711
@leopoldstotch7711 Год назад
@@LClarke *HIRE THIS MAN AND PIT HIM AGAINST THAT MAN*
@blueberrymuffin4921
@blueberrymuffin4921 Год назад
Your best point was definitely that you said parties could wait until the last person is called and board with them. But like clarke said, the seating arrangement would be tough because each airplane that a boards at a given gate would have a different seat layout. Not only that, but people often like privacy at gates since they work and charge their electronics. Not to mention, airports don't have that kind of space-- they can't just have an entire airplane sized boarding area.
@cryptickcryptick2241
@cryptickcryptick2241 Год назад
@@blueberrymuffin4921 Yes, many times airports will load multiple planes and gates all in the matter of a few minutes. An alternative of this would be to have a standing area, with assigned numbers on the floor. "Everyone in SEATS A please rise and get in order by your seat number according to the floor numbers." Unfortunately, airports have been really slow on adding in the charging ports, and for a while some airports even purposely hid and removed outlets. Fortunately now, it seems like there are more and more outlets. Today, it makes sense to put them everywhere. Still, would love to see a better method, but who know if it will ever happen.
@TomasuDesu
@TomasuDesu Год назад
Flew with JAL, and they used the window-aisle method. Worked very well and it was a quick pushback
@lmg3494
@lmg3494 3 года назад
And I’m the jerk who just waits in the terminal until y’all get your seating figured out and stroll in and sit down at the last minute... I don’t have patience for the line 😂
@thursoberwick1948
@thursoberwick1948 3 года назад
That is the sensible approach. 👍 Unfortunately, you have to rely on too many people not having the same idea!
@Chowder12345able
@Chowder12345able 3 года назад
I recommend you watch Michael McIntyre's sketch on plane boarding
@sharathsh9987
@sharathsh9987 3 года назад
@@thursoberwick1948 And also hope, especially in low-cost flights, that they'll have enough room for your carry-on and that you don't have to go back out to check it.
@hadracks
@hadracks 3 года назад
It's not jerky. I do the same thing and all the people in a hurry to get on the plane get on faster.
@the_joker7020
@the_joker7020 3 года назад
@@sharathsh9987 depending on the target airport that could be the plan from the beginning. Was flying a couple of times with cabin luggage only and waited until the last moment to get the chance to of it being checked in. (with a small bag inside the luggage to take out). By the time I've passed the belts the luggage was already there.
@briansimpson6710
@briansimpson6710 4 года назад
There is actually an interesting boarding method that the military uses when they do mass transportation of soldiers that is potentially more efficent then Steffan Perfect. When the US Military deploys entire batallions or brigades of troops from one continent to another, they do so by chartering entire 777 or other dreamliner class trans-oceanic flights. The method is back to front, every second isle, but with a twist. You load back to front, no choice of which seat, and you do not stowe your bag immediatly. You sit down in the seat with your bag in your lap and wait. Once the row has filled and the row in front has filled, all bags are passed to the isle seat, who shoves them all into the overhead bins one by one for the entire row. While you are sitting down with your bag in your lap, you have a couple moments to pull out whatever items you will immediatly need and prep your bag to be stowed. I do not know if the method has a specific name, but I experienced it on three separate occations going to or from deployments. This seating method basicly reduces all stopages from stowing bags and from seat shuffling to nearly zero. This however would basicaly never work for a civillian flight for many reasons. People traveling together and trust being the major issues. General travelers will likely not trust in handing their bag of personal belongings to a random stranger to have them stuff it into the overhead, and the random isle-seat passenger will probably not be willing to do the extra work of putting 5-7 bags into he overhead one after another. (As I said, trans-pacific flights, where it's two isles and 7-8 seats in the middle row and 4-5 in each side row, and sometimes even an upstairs and downstairs.) People traveling in groups would want to all sit together, and this seating method has basicly zero promise that they will even be in the same row, as by the time they get to their seats, the group might be split between two entirly different sections. So while this seating method is highly efficent, it can basicly only occur when every single person involved is on the same page, knows the plan, and is basicly ordered 'this is how this is going to happen so just shut up and do it because it's not up for debate' Edit : It's also one of the only times when every single person on the plane has at least one firearm, but they have all taken the bolt out and put it in their pocket, and nobody has any ammo.
@herborbord8958
@herborbord8958 4 года назад
This should be top comment
@EcuadorianFlagShip
@EcuadorianFlagShip 4 года назад
Damn that's amazing. Nice of you to take the time to write it out. Really glad I decided to rewatch this video today.
@potatoonastick2239
@potatoonastick2239 4 года назад
Cool! Thank you for the information, random knowledgeable internet stranger!
@marshythemarshtomp
@marshythemarshtomp 4 года назад
Too much text, but this is pure perfection.
@nicholaswilliams6475
@nicholaswilliams6475 4 года назад
If nobody has any ammo then why the gun?
@OfTheDetermined
@OfTheDetermined Год назад
The use of sanitizer following the triple high five is GOLD
@katiethewise
@katiethewise Год назад
One time I flew to Ireland from Italy, but one flight with like 300 people had landed JUST before mine. To make it better, I was at the back of the plane. And I had another flight in 1 hour that I needed to get on to go back home. Needless to say, I have never ran as fast as I did that day.
@PlaneSpottingBerlin
@PlaneSpottingBerlin 3 года назад
Fastest way: Get 2 aircraft cabins. Get people in the seats before the aircraft arrives. Take out the other cabin, put the new one in and go :D
@tinsku332Xd
@tinsku332Xd 3 года назад
?
@ernestoleon1865
@ernestoleon1865 3 года назад
This man lives in the year 3000
@OmNom1206
@OmNom1206 3 года назад
Ok but this kind of thing would actually be really cool. Like plane cabin legos
@makarismaileadnan
@makarismaileadnan 3 года назад
You should patent this 😂
@wybo2
@wybo2 3 года назад
Depending on how you make the cabin, you could make it a emergency-escape-pod. Something goes wrong-> explosive bolts detatch the tail, retro-rokets make the cabin shoot out of the pain and parashutes do the rest. Sure, yall be sufficating due to de-pressuring but yall get to tell the tale.
@internetgirl3099
@internetgirl3099 3 года назад
"The plane is here, go ahead everyone" is what we do in Asia tho. (first-class still goes first ofc)
@rondameravella2885
@rondameravella2885 3 года назад
@Iamin Yourmom Depends where in Asia you are, though I may just be saying that because I've a free pass in the form of a toddler
@jameskim1505
@jameskim1505 3 года назад
@Iamin Yourmom have been to Baltimore?? I guess not
@sebastienvondoom8615
@sebastienvondoom8615 3 года назад
@Iamin Yourmom Horrendously more efficient.
@astro_1335
@astro_1335 3 года назад
True
@acsaha8304
@acsaha8304 3 года назад
Relatable, I was confused about the system he was talking about in the beginning lol. Turns out, we just have different systems
@RatioPlease
@RatioPlease Год назад
I love how the expression of boarding people changes when they board at theoretically fastest boarding method.
@alecnajarian
@alecnajarian Год назад
5:13 Can we appreciate seeing a 2 dimensional figure transcend to a 3rd dimension while still being 2 dimensional between 3 planes
@spidercider8909
@spidercider8909 4 года назад
The plane I use is always random boarding. I thought that that was annoying until I saw this video.
@thecatman5027
@thecatman5027 3 года назад
TIME TRAVEL
@user-mb1kj8gt8b
@user-mb1kj8gt8b 3 года назад
Emma Wang I hope your joking
@lichtishlogistics
@lichtishlogistics 3 года назад
I just realized that "50 years ago" was part of his username.
@user-mb1kj8gt8b
@user-mb1kj8gt8b 3 года назад
Moon Light House no really you don’t say
@harrywarman6196
@harrywarman6196 3 года назад
this is always done in europe mostly
@spudd5832
@spudd5832 3 года назад
The easiest method is to be in a pandemic, there’s like 10 people per flight.
@whalienreader1261
@whalienreader1261 3 года назад
@ExtraGoose Animations they dont. I had to take a flight three days ago and they're ALL full 🤢
@spudd5832
@spudd5832 3 года назад
@@whalienreader1261 Oh damn, a month or two ago I took a flight from Edinburgh to Exeter and there was about 10 or so people on it but that might just be because Exeter airport is absolutely tiny.
@sapphiremoon8409
@sapphiremoon8409 3 года назад
Not true, I am from Spain but live in Belgium so I travel quite regularly, and let me tell you all flights I have been this year were full to say the least.
@beamshark
@beamshark 3 года назад
I went from California to New York a couple months ago and the plane was COMPLETELY full 🤢🤢 some of the ppl weren't even wearing masks like wtf After that flight I went from NY to Munich and there was like barely anyone there lol I got a whole row ALL to myself 😀😀
@philliphartman2381
@philliphartman2381 3 года назад
Go someone that requires a visa. My flight from Canada to South Korea was amazing. I've done this flight 20 times now. This was the best. All the seats I wanted. Flight attendant at my beck and call.
@oatey8868
@oatey8868 Год назад
A similar video for passenger-side in airports in general would be great, it feels like there would be a much better way to get every passenger arriving to an airport bag-dropped and through security more seamlessly and in less time
@1.4142
@1.4142 Год назад
People are always late, running out of cargo space, and rearranging seats to sit with each other and at the window.
@Vegito_
@Vegito_ 4 года назад
1:06 Top ten rappers Eminem was too afraid to diss
@babymetalenjoyer
@babymetalenjoyer 4 года назад
Loooooool
@babymetalenjoyer
@babymetalenjoyer 4 года назад
@@camminthefirst yep
@kartikiyer3067
@kartikiyer3067 4 года назад
This rhyming is pretty dope but it's closer to the level of Dr. Seuss... Eminem is the Rap God!!!
@danielsjohnson
@danielsjohnson 4 года назад
I was thinking "This guy reads Dr. Seuss" instead
@huskkyy
@huskkyy 4 года назад
@@kartikiyer3067 cpg grey is rap god
@umutcantacer7271
@umutcantacer7271 2 года назад
Other airlines: Boarding groups. Turkish Airlines (and maybe some others): Plane here, go on, we have doors both front and back so we use both.
@TgIiDgUiS
@TgIiDgUiS 2 года назад
Yes so simple I love it
@AnnTii
@AnnTii 2 года назад
SONUNDA ARADIĞIM YORUM OHHHH
@davidboeger6766
@davidboeger6766 2 года назад
I was surprised to learn recently that the front and back doors are not exclusive to certain airlines but actually a feature on many planes, it's just that many airports only have the sky bridges for one door. I was on a domestic US flight recently on a relatively small plane, and I had a connection at a small airport I had never flown into before. To my surprise, they had 2 bridges and were able to use both doors, so getting on and off was quick and easy. The vast majority of airports don't seem to do this though, at least here in the US.
@umutcantacer7271
@umutcantacer7271 2 года назад
@@davidboeger6766 Ngl, on my last flight (1 hour flight, small plane) they took us from the gate with a bus and we boarded with move-able escalators.
@davidboeger6766
@davidboeger6766 2 года назад
@@umutcantacer7271 I've had that as well a couple of times, but actually on larger international flights to China. Some of the Chinese airports aren't really designed with gates at the building itself, so they have to bus people out to the area where the planes are.
@acerniss
@acerniss Год назад
I love how informative yet entertaining this is, especially with the casual poems and fancy sounding quotes dropped in.
@mikeblaker7097
@mikeblaker7097 Год назад
Absolutely love the animation. Honestly could watch all of RU-vid like this.
@tonyleeramos
@tonyleeramos 3 года назад
Life pro tip if/when assigned a seat & packed light: don’t get into the line at all. Wait until everyone else has boarded. Sit leisurely in the waiting area. As they announce final boarding, walk on and sit down - line free.
@AlexanderMoen
@AlexanderMoen 3 года назад
That's what I do, and prefer. I would rather stretch my legs than be in a cramped plane while waiting for everyone else to board. I also don't have to wait for a line for my ticket to be scanned either
@germansniper5277
@germansniper5277 3 года назад
That's what I always do.
@natsuneisen6208
@natsuneisen6208 3 года назад
I always do this. Could never understand people's rush to get onto a plane that is going to wait for everyone to board before departing. You just end up sitting for longer on a cramped airplane. Good job.
@phunkydroid
@phunkydroid 3 года назад
@@natsuneisen6208 They don't want to end up having their bag gate checked because the overhead storage is full when the last few people board.
@benharris4218
@benharris4218 3 года назад
This strategy relies on everyone else NOT doing this... If everyone did this, the plane would never fill. Also, if you're in a non-aisle seat, this strategy guarantees you're going to make someone get up to let you in.
@lucasbelzramos
@lucasbelzramos 2 года назад
There is one Brazilian Airline (Azul Airlines) that uses the Steffen Perfect. They have projectors in the ceiling of boarding gates that projects on the ground the sets that should be entering in the correct order, meanwhile the other passengers can wait seated. It's very effective and super fun way to board! hahaha
@jads_x3
@jads_x3 2 года назад
TA ME TIRANDO! Nunca viajei de azul, agora quero
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 2 года назад
They're also perhaps the best delivery company in Brazil (outside of international companies).
@furious.nullified
@furious.nullified 2 года назад
This is true, I have flown on azul airlines
@MrR3KK
@MrR3KK 2 года назад
I have the perception that LATAM uses the Steffen Modified method
@fazdoll
@fazdoll 2 года назад
How do they exit the plane? The slow way?
@GabrielJaggernauth
@GabrielJaggernauth Год назад
At 3:05, is that supposed to be a generic RU-vidr, or at the very least, Casey Neistat with his signature shades? 🤣
@bmmoody
@bmmoody Год назад
I’m surprised you didn’t mention it but what airlines should do is board from the BACK and board front to back. That keeps the profit incentive but minimizes the bottlenecks.
@TheZombersLMAO
@TheZombersLMAO 2 года назад
The fact that animated CGP Grey sanitized his hands after the triple partner parallel is just hurting my brain because this was in 2019
@lucyfleet1944
@lucyfleet1944 2 года назад
I thought it was edited, I remembered it as a screwdriver fixing his wrist. Not sure though, might be a Mandela effect happening there I am very curious if that is the case because if not, I automatically assumed robo grey would be repairing himself after a high five
@UltraLegoEnthusiast
@UltraLegoEnthusiast 2 года назад
bro... I think that's lotion.
@TheZombersLMAO
@TheZombersLMAO 2 года назад
@@UltraLegoEnthusiast lotion after a high five?
@Horny_Fruit_Flies
@Horny_Fruit_Flies 2 года назад
@@TheZombersLMAO Yes, he apparently really enjoyed the triple. REALLY enjoyed it.
@chonkydog6262
@chonkydog6262 2 года назад
@@lucyfleet1944 You can't edit videos on RU-vid you can only trim them and stuff like that
@fargoflagrant7796
@fargoflagrant7796 5 лет назад
* shows up late and disrupts perfectly logical and time-efficient boarding process *
@explosu
@explosu 5 лет назад
*kicked out on ass by security everyone on flight cheers* =P
@frankovercrest2317
@frankovercrest2317 5 лет назад
I already like you
@Setheli216
@Setheli216 5 лет назад
I'd like your comment but it's at 666 likes & I don't want to ruin that moment.
@leafletaa3278
@leafletaa3278 5 лет назад
*our seat is 3, went all the way to the back and goes back to front, pushing everyone out
@davidsenatsky9412
@davidsenatsky9412 5 лет назад
I just usually sit and wait when the last two people are in the boarding que, only then I will join.
@jaydenvengeance
@jaydenvengeance Год назад
I love the subtle, prescient hand sanitiser use at 2:03.
@bigsmall246
@bigsmall246 Год назад
The Reaper method maximizes time for cheaper seats at the back and minimizes time for more expensive seats at the front. This increases the time difference and incentive to pay more money to get the seats at the front.
@smartereveryday
@smartereveryday 5 лет назад
I liked the hand sanitizer after the high fives at 2:00.
@Asidders
@Asidders 5 лет назад
I thought he was preparing a meal or something. 😂
@bicuber8399
@bicuber8399 5 лет назад
I thought he was uh... ya know...
@s3cr3tpassword
@s3cr3tpassword 5 лет назад
The fact that the one sanitizing is a robot just makes it better.
@TauGeneration
@TauGeneration 5 лет назад
oh that's what it was..
@stephanmuller1450
@stephanmuller1450 5 лет назад
The robot is CGP Grey. He's famously afraid of germs (although obviously he's 100% right and all of us are the crazy ones)
@ripurutheman4082
@ripurutheman4082 3 года назад
Wait... there are flights that DON'T board randomly???!
@galaleo1531
@galaleo1531 3 года назад
Ripuru The man ikr
@x_cross9248
@x_cross9248 3 года назад
I have never seen these boarding groups in my life, the few times i have flown i always boarded at random, i was never told to get in a specific place in line, i think its really dumb to do this, making staff to work more than they already do and messing with our time
@40watt53
@40watt53 3 года назад
Where do you live where they board randomly?
@ripurutheman4082
@ripurutheman4082 3 года назад
@@40watt53 Latvia. I've always wondered why our airlines are always "the most punctual" and now i know why.
@IronHexacyanoferrate
@IronHexacyanoferrate 3 года назад
Boarding groups only exist in the American region Edit: I made a mistake, I’ve corrected myself in one of my more recent comments, indeed there are boarding groups all around the world.
@garrick3727
@garrick3727 Год назад
The other problem with efficient boarding is that the airline cannot blame delays on slow boarding. How many times have you heard this: "We will leave as soon as everyone is seated." followed by, "Well we lost our take-off window and now we have to sit at the gate for a while or taxi around slowly." Because it's impossible to take into account how long it takes to board. Yeah, no-one should believe that. It would be great one day if the passengers could call the flight crew's bluff and everyone immediately sits down unexpectedly quick, so that they have to find a new excuse.
@bsci01
@bsci01 Год назад
in australia we don’t have these weird “boarding groups” we just have priority/people who need assistance, and then everyone else boards from the front or the back depending on where you sit. (ie: rows 1-15 board from the front bridge, and 16-30 from the back stairs)
@Beric1007
@Beric1007 3 года назад
I feel like the "ideal world" method might actually work in a place like Japan.
@ryanramjattan8714
@ryanramjattan8714 3 года назад
Japan is such a good country. I feel ashamed a little about canada
@Liam_The_Great
@Liam_The_Great 3 года назад
@@ryanramjattan8714 weeb
@Invictus173
@Invictus173 3 года назад
@@Liam_The_Great says a lot about you..
@Liam_The_Great
@Liam_The_Great 3 года назад
@@Invictus173 like what
@Invictus173
@Invictus173 3 года назад
@@Liam_The_Great a classic boomer might i suggest would be a great description..
@Veladus
@Veladus 4 года назад
"the human inability to follow instructions is breathtaking" as a former MMORPG raider, I verify this with my enraged tears.
@Jockec
@Jockec 3 года назад
Wtf is mmorpg
@RandomHandle837
@RandomHandle837 3 года назад
Mladi Jockec Massive multiplayer online role playing game
@tengkualiff
@tengkualiff 3 года назад
rip raid healers n tanks
@sdnducky02
@sdnducky02 3 года назад
Let's do this....LEEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYY JEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNKKKKKKIIIIINNNNNSSSSSS
@ccggenius
@ccggenius 3 года назад
But... it's just so damn hard to NOT stand in the glowy stuff while i hit the same 2 keys over and over... That'd require hitting like... a whole third key.
@jeanphilippeardrone5135
@jeanphilippeardrone5135 Год назад
I have a tons of ideas to improve boarding : - have more doors - have less seats per row - have more stops so not everyone boards and leaves at the same time - have longer vehicles - have more flexible bag storing, with overhead storing that can be smaller, as well as large accessible bag storing shelves periodically (next to doors and in the middle) Oh, that sounds a lot like a train...
@rskpomg
@rskpomg Год назад
Have less seats per row 🤣🤣🤣 It's like asking for airline's kidneys
@oneliberal7142
@oneliberal7142 Год назад
Lmao I appreciate the sentiment cause trains are based, but I would really like to see you take a train from New York to Melbourne. Even if such a train track can somehow be built in the distant future, it would take weeks to reach the destination. Another alternative is a ship, but that will take you several months. Planes are simply essential when travelling internationally, outside of Europe.
@jeanphilippeardrone5135
@jeanphilippeardrone5135 Год назад
@@oneliberal7142 Well for a new york to Melbourne the flight is so long that the boarding time becomes negligible. I don't think boarding efficiency is a problem for these kinds of flights
@oneliberal7142
@oneliberal7142 Год назад
@@jeanphilippeardrone5135 Oh I'm not referring to that. It's that you said train would be better for boarding and I just pointed out that although it may be true, it won't apply in all cases.
@KiLLJoYYouTube
@KiLLJoYYouTube Год назад
Fewer
@arinerm1331
@arinerm1331 Год назад
You did mention the flaw that would defeat any improvement in boarding methods, the human inability or just plain unwillingness to follow directions. When I went to basic training in the military some decades ago, we were 80 guys in one unit for many long weeks. To go from one place to another, we marched. To get into marching formation we formed a height line, tallest in the front to shortest in the back, then filed into marching formation. I can't remember standing behind the same guy twice in a row, ever. Did our relative heights change from one hour to another? I doubt it. We just failed at even the most simple of cooperative tasks.
@CheeseOnEverything
@CheeseOnEverything 3 года назад
This is why I dont give a dam who they're calling, I just sit there till I'm the last person, walk on and just find a seat
@davefuelling7955
@davefuelling7955 3 года назад
I do the exact same thing, sit in the holding area watching everyone stand in line waiting for everyone in front of them to take one step forward and when the last person gets to the person checking boarding passes, I get up and wander over before they close the door. Still have to stand in line on the jetway to the plane, but it's less time standing then if I got up when they called my section.
@lorr.jones8887
@lorr.jones8887 3 года назад
I love waiting until the end and will do so if I've checked all my suitcases. But it's not so great if you bring a carry-on. Chances are you won't be able to stow it where you are sitting, or worse, they run out of room and end up putting your bag with the checked luggage.
@augustsiverskog2458
@augustsiverskog2458 3 года назад
Same strategy my family always use, we hang around in the shop area and get on last, works best with a 2year old who just wanna run
@wossgwuanin8072
@wossgwuanin8072 3 года назад
Genuinely feels invigorating to watch the fools stand around for no reason while I chill out on my Switch until they finally call group 27 onboard
@FrozenBusChannel
@FrozenBusChannel 3 года назад
@Elon Musk I don't think they will, you have no other choice
@PalomaDreams17
@PalomaDreams17 3 года назад
The problem with the window-middle-aisle thing is that families often sit together, and I don’t think a baby would be able to go on its own
@syrefayne8922
@syrefayne8922 3 года назад
That's what I was thinking. Imagine a plane calling for your 3 year old to board by themself and then making you wait another however-many-minutes while your child is unsupervised and alone and definitely clueless about what to do. Or the other way around, having to leave your child in the waiting area for who knows how long.
@algorhythm-P
@algorhythm-P 3 года назад
I think he roughly mentioned this, not the baby specifically but that's why he made the modified method.
@rizzie_chan
@rizzie_chan 3 года назад
Ive traveled with my family a lot! Most airlines will let you go in with your family. If you have one family member in the window area, then the whole family will go at once since they are probably going to be sitting in the same area :) There is usually also prioritization for those that are pregnant, with young infants or elderly.
@AudreyLudlow
@AudreyLudlow 3 года назад
And this is why families board first, alongside those with special needs and unaccompanied minors. No kids will be left to board alone with whatever method the airline uses.
@plamoretti673
@plamoretti673 3 года назад
abolish babies
@cbt_man
@cbt_man Год назад
Air New Zealand board forward half on the front gate, back half through the tarmac to the back door. It works really well.
@glamazini
@glamazini Год назад
Last weekend I flew American and noticed that we boarded very quickly and in a "strange order." I noticed the boarding groups were scattered across the plane on all 4 flights and wondered what was happening. Wonder if someone saw your video and made some changes.
@boyinaband
@boyinaband 5 лет назад
1:02 Finally, the CGP Grey rap we've been waiting for
@poisonpotato1
@poisonpotato1 5 лет назад
Eminem too afraid to diss him
@codekillerz5392
@codekillerz5392 5 лет назад
Wait, I know you...
@pjmackey373
@pjmackey373 5 лет назад
I think I know you...
@bluemer8099
@bluemer8099 5 лет назад
Wait a minute...
@komencanto
@komencanto 5 лет назад
Hey man I love your work!
@avtarmandaher6828
@avtarmandaher6828 5 лет назад
My secret fastest boarding method is waiting for everyone else to get on the plane then sauntering on last
@spectrent
@spectrent 5 лет назад
SaltyBrains imagine boarding starts and everyone keeps sitting in the terminal and exchanging nervous looks because everyone wants to be the last.
@baguetteseahorse5005
@baguetteseahorse5005 5 лет назад
It's not the fastest then, because you waited, you had the longest possible full stop. It is the most convenient for oneself however.
@rednola9892
@rednola9892 5 лет назад
@@baguetteseahorse5005 everyone waits the same amount of time to lift off no matter what but if you board last you cant avoid standing in like for 10-20 mins
@PongoXBongo
@PongoXBongo 5 лет назад
@@rednola9892 And you can finish your food court sandwich at your leisure before boarding.
@flaminbutt
@flaminbutt 5 лет назад
Thank you! But you really shouldn’t be spreading our secret 😂. Anyways, I’d rather sit comfortably in the boarding room until I’m one of the last people than stand a long time in a queue, and then wait in a cramped, hot airplane until liftoff.
@DeetexSeraphine
@DeetexSeraphine Год назад
Excellent alliteration, as usual.... and those last 15 seconds were just the cherry on top, as mean-spirited as pionent!
@mnaw11
@mnaw11 Год назад
Never seen one of your videos before. This was awesome. Glad to be a new subscriber. GREAT STUFF!
@awabqureshi814
@awabqureshi814 4 года назад
2:02 cgp was sanitising his hands before it was cool
@HuongNguyen-ks2dq
@HuongNguyen-ks2dq 4 года назад
Lmao wut
@junkmail1337
@junkmail1337 4 года назад
I thought he was lubing them up
@garrett9550
@garrett9550 3 года назад
Yes... sanitizing
@kennethtimorang8343
@kennethtimorang8343 3 года назад
I thought it was idk, like an animation glitch or sth idk
@Horny_Fruit_Flies
@Horny_Fruit_Flies 3 года назад
CGP Grey is circumcised confirmed.
@alykazaam
@alykazaam 5 лет назад
Got 2 notifications about airlines and assumed it was from Wendover Productions.
@hadleybrine3429
@hadleybrine3429 5 лет назад
You're a woman of culture. Kudos.
@nickieshadowfaxbrooklyn5192
@nickieshadowfaxbrooklyn5192 5 лет назад
Wendover is decent as well. Can't tell which is better.
@IgorDz
@IgorDz 5 лет назад
You didn't expect it to be Neebs Gaming bickering about planes?
@wilkinlow
@wilkinlow 5 лет назад
Every single time
@israelcruz9444
@israelcruz9444 5 лет назад
Sexy comment (I'm sorry)
@azianice
@azianice Год назад
The window - middle - aisle doesn’t take into account that aisle passengers likely don’t have overhead space and have to go up and down the aisles to put their overhead luggage, which slows down the boarding considerably. This also slow down the disembarking as people in the front have to trek back to get their luggage from overhead bins because they are no longer directly above them. Back to front does not have this same issue, and thus I believe your theory here is flawed from a practical standpoint.
@manjade
@manjade Год назад
What about using the front AND back doors of the plane?
@the.abhiram.r
@the.abhiram.r Год назад
only really works with bus stands
@wren_.
@wren_. Год назад
What about having a two person I also people can move around each other? Boom problem solved
@jina2521
@jina2521 Год назад
unfortunately it's not always possible depending on the gate position but when it's done it's such a relief. definitely speeds up boarding by a lot
@maevat4875
@maevat4875 Год назад
Usually, it's faster, except when a whole family boards from the back and then "sorry, um, excuse me, sorry we're seated in row 3" (yes it happens all the time)
@royce9018
@royce9018 Год назад
@@wren_. huge waste of space. Save 10 minutes of boarding and costs $10,000 in lost seats
@arc3842
@arc3842 4 года назад
Just do the Southwest... "Sit where you want i don't care"
@rwdypiper3622
@rwdypiper3622 4 года назад
Well, seat shuffles ruin it.
@knightofficer
@knightofficer 4 года назад
i was thinking exactly united. i am also personally guilty of the seat shuffle, i love looking out the window
@dbkats
@dbkats 4 года назад
Southwest also has the precise ordering of passengers that Grey says would never happen. It works just fine. I fly Southwest about once a month for work and I’ve never seen a problem.
@hinder90
@hinder90 4 года назад
Southwest is the Greyhound of the skies after all...
@kaiserslim2751
@kaiserslim2751 4 года назад
I took Southwest when travelling to New York recently. They still separated people into boarding groups, but didn't really care where we all sat.
@joshwd3152
@joshwd3152 5 лет назад
"hey everyone... plane's here... go ahead" is the funniest thing you've ever said
@nikitamalikov6683
@nikitamalikov6683 5 лет назад
That's what we actually do in Australia. Also, we can choose what end of the plane we can board from.
@SuperSiggiboy
@SuperSiggiboy 5 лет назад
@@nikitamalikov6683 Here in Norway, we also use both the front and rear doors, and it speeds things up a lot. No prioritised boarding, just line up when you want to and then board
@JL-zs6hj
@JL-zs6hj 5 лет назад
I thought you were me because of the profile pic then looked closer *STEALTH 100*
@jaxweby4343
@jaxweby4343 5 лет назад
Henry Statitovski Same here in the UK
@wilbertbirdner1303
@wilbertbirdner1303 5 лет назад
@@nikitamalikov6683 That's only because they worked out that people just ouright ignore boarding groups anyway
@INikeAir
@INikeAir Год назад
I always laugh when we land and ppl are just standing waiting to get out as it takes 20 minutes for the bridge to get in place and they have to wait for everyone to get out before they can even move 😂😂😂
@TheLordOfNothing
@TheLordOfNothing Год назад
I was leaving back home from London, they were queuing to queue.
@uggooga1437
@uggooga1437 2 года назад
It’s weird because here in Europe, I have never experienced boarding groups-It’s always been the ‘planes here’ method. In fact, up until a few years ago, EasyJet didn’t even use allocated seats so you could sit wherever you want. The closest thing to boarding groups I have experienced here is when they open the front and back doors of the planes so you are told if you sit in the rear of the plane to use the back door. They don’t force you or organise you but most people do it on their own as it is legitimately more convenient.
@gamermapper
@gamermapper 2 года назад
America is just plain evil
@geographyhistorygeopolitic3851
@geographyhistorygeopolitic3851 2 года назад
@@gamermapper says the person whos never even been there
@sidjiiimenudo842
@sidjiiimenudo842 2 года назад
@@geographyhistorygeopolitic3851 you don't need to go there
@geographyhistorygeopolitic3851
@geographyhistorygeopolitic3851 2 года назад
@@sidjiiimenudo842 To get a better taste of what a country is really like, yes you do.
@mtlfpv
@mtlfpv 2 года назад
you don't need to go into a building to know it's on fire, you can see the smoke from miles away.
@cobra02411
@cobra02411 2 года назад
As a teen I was returning from visiting family in Palm Springs Ca and there was a load of Marines on leave from 29 Palms also departing. Not sure if they were ordered to do so of if it arose organically in their Marine minds but they organized window, middle, isle from back to front with bags they knew where they would fit and the other 8 or 10 of us mere mortals managed to fit in well enough not to much things up and I swear we loaded the plane in about 90 seconds. Well, I'm not sure exactly how fast but it was fast enough that the captain gave the announcement we were leaving early. "You all did such a great job boarding we were able to bump up our departure time by 10 minutes, so we'll um, be underway I guess... " You could hear the pleasurable bewilderment in his voice... Departing the plane was just as orderly and with that single flight I experienced nirvana. Never before, never again...
@caspiansfriend
@caspiansfriend 2 года назад
Hmmm... so, despite the economic incentive to have 1st class, and all those other perks noted in the video, you struck upon another, bigger economic incentive: leaving sooner! By boarding quickly and easily, the airlines would save some of that fuel the plane must be burning while we are loading. Perhaps? I admit I'm not sure about that one. But the other obvious one: quicker departure times! That 10 minutes, multiplied times hundreds of flights per day has to translate into airline profits somewhere, I would think. And think of the competitive advantage if an airline could boast that boarding is easy. (I'm not advocating for the Marine Method of Boarding per se. Just saying that your example of loading up faster than the norm, for whatever reason, should translate into profit for the airline that fixes this problem). Too bad most of them are too short sighted to see that or they just might try harder to make boarding, and getting off, much less painful and insanely slow. As previously noted, this insanity of everyone loading via ONE door is the driving reason why I, for one, really really long for a robust train system. At least with a train, boarding is way easier! Not to mention the fact that they are nowhere near as affected by weather.
@themadpyro8560
@themadpyro8560 Год назад
@@caspiansfriend also imagine how effective better boarding would be for smaller international airports like say... Heathrow. 2 runways with set hours for activity and runways being used, at there fastest, once every two minutes. Imagine being able to cut down on the waiting time so as soon as a runway opens you can depart an already full plane rather than having to account for departures having an extra 15 minutes to fill up once they're actually ready to fly.
@FinalLugiaGuardian
@FinalLugiaGuardian Год назад
Perhaps the Marines went to school where cgp grey was the professor.
@JustAGlitchFL
@JustAGlitchFL Год назад
@@themadpyro8560 there are plenty of planes departing from Heathrow to fill the queue, but they are just waiting for wake turbulence to dissipate.
@Julebstube
@Julebstube Год назад
This can be done with people used to be given orders. But most of passengers will go: "Hell no, I decide what is best for ME"
@BucketListTravellers
@BucketListTravellers Год назад
This explains perfectly what I have spent countless hours in line pondering! That ending will haunt every flight I take from now on! 😅
@idun-bidun
@idun-bidun Год назад
the only problem with cgp greys solution is that if there is a family, im fairly sure a five year old wants to board with their family.
@pjmodjesky8613
@pjmodjesky8613 3 года назад
That’s why when I land in a plane, I just sit there for like 7 minutes so that it’s not too stressful waiting for everyone else in front of my to get off the plane
@muncher1753
@muncher1753 3 года назад
Same with traffic. If you can Stop somewhere and wait it out. Otherwise just Don’t get into traffic
@analysearmstrong
@analysearmstrong 3 года назад
same, except it’s usually because i typically fly as an unaccompanied minor which means 1. i sit in the very back row, every. single. time. and 2. there needs to be a flight attendant to walk me off the plane which they can’t do until everyone eLsE is off 🙄
@radhiadeedou8286
@radhiadeedou8286 3 года назад
That's what I do too, why wait standing up and holding your bag when you can just sit there
@scrapthatwithmatt9520
@scrapthatwithmatt9520 3 года назад
Same 😅
@leobloomfield5831
@leobloomfield5831 3 года назад
@@analysearmstrong flying as a UM is hands down the worst way to fly lol Everyone just staring at you being walked by flight attendants all over the place
@justinchoi5358
@justinchoi5358 4 года назад
The problem with steffen “perfect” is that the time you save with the actual boarding you lose trying to get everyone in line
@LL-fw7hi
@LL-fw7hi 4 года назад
Except you could do the line arranging before they plane is ready. Though, as he points out, that's the least of its logistical problems.
@ammyvl1
@ammyvl1 3 года назад
@@Beep-town yeah, no other reasons
@myztazynizta
@myztazynizta 3 года назад
@@LL-fw7hi Or you can have a straight row of seats from the waiting area to the plane and have everyone line up and sit down as soon as the plane gets there. Anyone tired of waiting can just sit down. Anyone who doesn't want to stand inside the plane for 7 minutes waiting to sit can just sit outside the plane and choose to be one of the last to board. You should get a discount if you don't bring anything that has to go overhead and you should pay extra (just $1 per bag) if you do. Stewards shouldn't have to argue with passengers over anything. They should have body cameras and after the flight they can submit a video of a rude passenger who had 3 pieces of carry-on and 2 purses and a backpack and a laptop bag and a briefcase and 3 plastic grocery bags and a baby bag (but not baby) to their supervisor and they can charge that passenger's credit card and extra $30 for decreasing the quality of the flight for their other customers and employees.
@LightAndShaddow5
@LightAndShaddow5 3 года назад
Another problem with Steffen “perfect” is that there is a faster method. 6 x full columns of seats from back to front. That means significantly less pull always than is depicted in this video, therefore it’d be faster than “steffen perfect”.
@nathanjay4788
@nathanjay4788 3 года назад
That's why it would have to be in a perfect world
@spencerlenz5050
@spencerlenz5050 Год назад
I haven't flown in more than 10 years so this video was really helpful and inspiring.
@Xiaoxiao738
@Xiaoxiao738 Год назад
In Australia most airlines board from the front and back at the same time. So if your in rows 15 - 25 you will go to the back of the plane and board via some stairs. Means you don't have a situation where someone in seat 19 is waiting for people at the front to put their bags away. Doesn't completely remove the bag issue but it reduces it somewhat.
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