Your Social Security Card is Insecure

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The Social Security card and number explained.
Special Thanks:
Stephen P. Morse, PhD. stevemorse.org
Ralph Gross, Postdoctoral Fellow, Carnegie Mellon University. peexlab.com
Alessandro Acquisti, Professor, Carnegie Mellon University
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Комментарии : 12 тыс.

@henryg.8762 4 года назад

bold of you to assume that my library card is less important than my social security card

@haph2087 4 года назад

knowledge is very important.

@danielvaldez9946 4 года назад

As a fellow introvert, I concur

@bahjamohamed6499 4 года назад

Daniel Valdez agreed

@hsmacaraig 4 года назад

*yes.*

@scottvelez3154 4 года назад

Facts

@anotheraggieburneraccount 4 года назад

So basically, we have the absolute worst system for identification possible. Got it.

@barackobama5530 4 года назад

actually, most countries in africa have the worst system. If youre born, the government wont even know

@fuzzX 4 года назад

@@barackobama5530 are you really compering america to african shithole countires?

@CharalamposKoundourakis 4 года назад

@@fuzzX I mean the USA is quite the shit hole at places.

@anthonyc4138 4 года назад

@Joaquín yep

@anthonyc4138 4 года назад

@@barackobama5530 that's false

@jovanweismiller7114 Год назад

A funny story. I was born in 1947. I got my SS card in 1965 when I started working. One day, years later, I was working in a shop that asked for SSANs on checks. A fellow came in, wrote a check, and when I asked for his SSAN, it was one digit off mine. He'd gotten his in the same office, the same day I got mine.

@kopioshu Год назад

Cool

@Mason_8r Год назад

what are the chances of that??

@EEEEEEEE Год назад

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@meatdelivery4087 Год назад

@@Mason_8r small but not improbable, the best kind of chances

@mariox204 Год назад

@@Mason_8r doesnt seems like a 80 years old guy so VERY small

@rustythecrown9317 Год назад

''We don't want no national card to track us , dammit'' , they're going to be pissed when they hear about phones , credit cards , bank cards etc.

@chaseowens6734 3 года назад

Ah yes, the opposite of Joe Exotic, Joe Generic

@grayk02 3 года назад

His straight laced, rule abiding, completely non-tiger owning alter-ego

@OrangeC7 3 года назад

@Cybernaut551 3 года назад

@@OrangeC7Me: Joe You: Joe who? Me: Joeboma ^_^

@kinger8471 3 года назад

And right in between: Joe uncommon

@bodaciousdoggo8971 3 года назад

Joesph Generic

@TheSecondVersion 6 лет назад

"There is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution." - Russian proverb

@strikerorwell9232 6 лет назад

+Vito C In the UK my social security number was promised to NOT reveal any personal facts! In Sweden I have 73-08-29 0514? Its the year 1973 I was born, the month 08, the day I was born 29 th, the time 0514 in the morning? However the Swedish authorities doesnt harass their citizens and most Political decisions/discussions is open information for the people! The Swedes all together demanded the fluoride banned from their drinking water? Within a year they took it away! Despite politicians in the EU parliament refusing to let the Swedes drink their spring water tapped without poison! Now they demanded the GMO food banned from the Swedish food market!

@EpicScizor 6 лет назад

Which is why gaffer tape is popular.

@PK-xe6sm 6 лет назад

@Striker Orwell You, my friend, need to consult a doctor :-/

@strikerorwell9232 6 лет назад

+P K To be called insane in a world of madness is a compliment. However those who knows me and read the comment above will notice its my usual sarcasm. Do you think our psychopathic leaders are sane by the way?

@PK-xe6sm 6 лет назад

It depends on your definition of sanity, I'm afraid :-) Ok, sometimes they could be less stupid, but that cannot be helped because statistics. Somebody has to be on the left of the Gauss curve in most social groups and politics is no exception. Apart from that, they couldn't be possibly any different than they are now.

@Matty8282 2 месяца назад

You gotta love America, the land of taking the worst possible route to achieve virtually the same goal.

@TheHouseOfWaffles 2 года назад

My university used to use the SSN as the primary student ID number -- instead of generating a random number or simply using a sequential index. My university has also always had a _lot_ of foreign students, who did not have SSNs, so fake SSNs were generated and assigned to them. Of course it wasn't long before new students with real SSNs experienced conflicts with fake SSNs already in the database. I think it was the mid-2000-oughts when my university finally switched to generated student ID numbers.

@christopherleblanc160 2 года назад

Did you by chance go to the University of Michigan? Because this sounds a lot like the University of Michigan.

@TheHouseOfWaffles 2 года назад

@@christopherleblanc160 Nope, I attended in the Western states.

@microwavegum 2 года назад

My community college use to use SSN a log in for students, but then there was a data leak. They changed it to passwords and usernames now.

@xopasstheaux6617 2 года назад

Yeah doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do but guess data leaks weren't as big a deal then

@russellaustin4988 2 года назад

Kind of proves that the leaders of the higher learning institute that you went to may not have been the smartest people. Didn't raise a bell? Well you were taught by them.

@CoreySmith1200 4 года назад

Somewhere Joe Generic is wondering why his identity is being used 24/7

@jeromemanuel2247 4 года назад

@Bryan BD how much

@lanascunt 4 года назад

@Bryan BD I love doing illegal activities wanna discuss fun illegal activities we do? You first.

@bob8819 4 года назад

Juan i click on accept to all terms and conditions to sign up for a Disney newsletter without actually reading the terms and conditions 😎

@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75 4 года назад

@@lanascunt I logged on to roblox without my parents permission

@tiouklef 4 года назад

That SSN belonged to the secretary of the VP of a wallet manufacturing company. www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/misused.html

@vlogbrothers 7 лет назад

The United States: A nation with a national ID card that isn't a national ID card, and a public health care system that isn't a public health care system. Great video! -John

@tobehonest7457 7 лет назад

vlogbrothers HIIIIIIIII JOHNNNN

@a.t.1011 7 лет назад

vlogbrothers JOHN

@RhythmAssistedPoetry 7 лет назад

.... :(

@sjoerdwennekes 7 лет назад

@OALXI 7 лет назад

Hi John! :D

@Connorthecatsdad Год назад

This makes me want to get a social insecurity card to show to people to let them know that sometimes I get anxious in crowds and conversations

@Azul_247 Год назад

it would just be the same numbers, backwords

@RespawnRestricted Год назад

In all my years I never remember a national ID card ever being a hot topic in any political campaign

@dcarbs2979 Год назад

It has been in UK. The idea was proposed and heavily rejected under Gordon Brown but kept cropping up for a short time around his election.

@jixer1956 Год назад

@@dcarbs2979 Do Brits not already have one?

@dcarbs2979 Год назад

@@jixer1956 Not one single centralised one, no. Many forms are accepted as ID (driving license, passport, bank card with some photo ID, bus pass, student pass, and a type of voluntary ID card). The latter is mostly for teenagers that want to have none of the above and used for alcohol and club entry. We also have the equivalent card (National Insurance / NI card) that simply has our number on it, but is not allowed for ID as it has no government issued photo. The number stays with you for life and identifies your tax, benefit and pay status to the government. While it is important, it is not as much of a security risk as it is always used in conjunction with one of the other ID's. Nor do you ever *need* the physical card, as the number is cross-referenced on the government databases. I used it in a finance company to identify otherwise similar individuals (2 John Smiths with the same birthday, for example).

@Braedown Год назад

It's more known as a Voter ID or something similar

@DerpyDaringDitzyDoo Год назад

Well that's because most of the time they just call it a "Voter's ID". Which is literally just, an ID that proves you're a US citizen. It would have a photo of you, a unique number, and only be given to those who can prove their citizenship. It literally would just be a national ID card, something to prove that you are you. But, because politics, they always frame it has having to do with voting. Most of the people I know that are against it is because it would have this unique number, therefore making your votes much easier to track, and therefore potentially undermining the right to have your vote be private. It come sup pretty much every presidential election, they just don't talk about it between terms because it doesn't benefit the politics and would cost a lot of money to start a program like that.

@TheRighanRed 7 лет назад

And with this video, grey has reached his upload quota for the entire year.

@Fragica0Because 7 лет назад

I mean he does have a life, plus having high personal standards which all his videos must live up.

@Rose_Harmonic 7 лет назад

lol

@shawn5346 7 лет назад

I forgot who he was, I thought this was Casually Explained.

@AbudBakri 7 лет назад

And that's where I come in...

@theamhway 7 лет назад

Ikr... And look, already a million views... No one even unsubs...

@Zerbey 3 года назад

The fun part was when I fist immigrated to the USA and being denied a loan because they said my SSN was only a few months old so I didn't qualify. I had to then go through a whole silly process of proving I was an adult.

@arseface2k934 3 года назад

now, before we give you this loan, are you SURE you're not an infant?

@nylajereb4523 3 года назад

Banker: ok you want loan? You: yes Banker: how do i know your not 3 kids in a trenchcoat?!

@flamingfoxx 3 года назад

"Hi I'm an adult can I have money please" "Idk man this says you're three months old"

@unoriginalname1 3 года назад

I mean, your RU-vid account is only 13 years old, so your only 13 right? Im just an infant who’s 2.

@ambi_cc8464 3 года назад

Whoa hold on, we have no evidence that up to this point you haven’t been a minor because your record has only been made a few months ago, we can’t have infants getting loans can we? Lol

@WindStreak_ Год назад

3:12 love how landlords are represented by someone who's angry. No other defining features, they're just angry at you

@piccolo54trunks2 Год назад

Fun fact: if you're a twin like me, your social security numbers are most likely one digit apart. Not so fun fact: this causes a lot of problems involving your SSN because they're not so easy to identify apparently. True story: my twin had insurance quotes that soared to the thousands. When he called the company, it was because they believed my twin and I were the same person (so all our traffic infractions added up together); they were only able to separate us based on our drivers' ID. I also got a call from a credit card company, saying that I had a pending balance when it was clearly my twin's account because I, myself, did not have a credit card. So yeah, the SSN system sucks for us

@randomfella8448 Год назад

I knew a pair of twins that had a similar story involving the Fasfa (financial aid).

@alden9086 Год назад

I can confirm this. My SSN and my twin's SSN is one digit off. Its kind of funny because my brother did not know his SSN off the top of his head, so my parents used to ask me for his SSN when we were younger. Or when he forgot his SSN.

@WyvernYT Год назад

It's not just twins. My sister's SSN is one off from mine, because when we were teenagers our mother realized she needed to do the paperwork and applied for both of us at the same time.

@NetScourge 4 года назад

No joke I was able to guess my sister's SSN because of this video lol. We were born a minute apart in the same hospital

@isaacjesuroga829 2 года назад

what was it?

@laquoia 2 года назад

@@isaacjesuroga829 yeah and also whats your credit card number

@slayd3378 2 года назад

Oh boy, it's extortion time.

@paperempire2655 2 года назад

@@Asutoro we need the expiration date also

@MasterGX 2 года назад

Oh boy….

@nfistfu 4 года назад

Wait... America doesn't have a national identity card? And they use their superannuation number, printed on an regular piece of cardboard, with no picture, or address, or date of birth, or anything on it, as identification???... I have no words...

@Nikole_Raven 3 года назад

A passport / passport can be uaed as national ID.

@PedroToledo. 3 года назад

@@Nikole_Raven Not everyone have a passport. Especially in the USA.

@top_hat_walrus1860 3 года назад

Only picture ID is driver license, state ID, passport and other licenses

@joaobaptista320 3 года назад

*laughs in European civilization*

@PedroToledo. 3 года назад

@@joaobaptista320 Laughs in most countries on Earth

@michaeladkins6 Год назад

I remember signing up at a temporary employment agency. They wanted the social security number for identification and didnt think twice about reading the number off out loud in a crowded room to get your attention that they were ready for an interview.

@vex6633 Год назад

As a german, the US's governmental decision are hilariously wierd. Then again, I dont know enough by own government to confidently say that we aren't doing something just as wierd sometimes

@markmcculfor6113 Год назад

the German government has done some.... wacky stuff in the past XD jkjk I know it's not y'alls responsibility for what happened a long time ago with a different government.

@kirisummer Год назад

2022 Undiversified gas dependency incident

@littlefriend123 Год назад

Your government based the majority of your energy supply on imports from Russia while being an active member in NATO.. an alliance formed entirely against Russia.. and then was shocked when Russia pulled some Russia type moves and your energy supply got kanked

@mateuszweyna7309 Год назад

@@littlefriend123 well, so did most of Europe

@bewitchedraven6763 Год назад

germany when they ban nuclear (they now have to dig for coal because their green energy is too expensive and unreliable)

@konakg8174 4 года назад

"You can always depend on Americans to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other options"

@seanshin1615 4 года назад

Winston Churchill

@temporarychannelname8620 4 года назад

@@seanshin1615 Ehhhh.... Not true. Theres no record of him saying the quote.

@robertlaube574 4 года назад

Replace "americans" with "any person, anywhere" and you wouldn't be totally full of shit.

@tortex1 4 года назад

@@strangelyukrainian7314 There are people who would say anything can be solved by explosives. Just saying.

@kaleidoscope5054 3 года назад

@PotatoTornado whoa, smart

@youngmasterzhi 3 года назад

(Un)fun fact: When Social Security was first introduced, some people would tattoo their social security numbers on their skin, fearing that they would end up forgeting it

@happyfacefries 3 года назад

@@nicolefischer1504 he didn't ask either

@vulpes7079 3 года назад

Imagine hooking up with someone and now they have your SSN

@whatthefridge1o1 3 года назад

Mood

@chanceadams5157 3 года назад

I’m so confused about these comments ⬆️

@edenparedesnevarez488 3 года назад

@@chanceadams5157 Same

@JadeLockpicker Год назад

having had family lose their _full_ SSN in a security breach _of_ a government institution, can we _please_ get a better system for this in place? because, more infuriating then all of the above? having your number _literally stolen_ is not a reason for Social Security Administration to assign you a new one. Stop and read that a few times. Now think about what happens if any other card with a number used to ID you gets looted in your life. _yeah_

@mateuszweyna7309 Год назад

I don't understand why Americans don't have any real id? Like what is the reason?

@sander9951 Год назад

@@mateuszweyna7309because freedom

@janejan9728 Год назад

When I applied for unemployment at one point, the unemployment office already had someone using my number. They casually mentioned this to me, before telling me not to worry about it. They approved my unemployment shortly thereafter.

@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723 7 лет назад

I'd like to stress that it's made of paper. And it's really bad if you get it wet.

@neuromorph 7 лет назад

its designed to be easily damaged/destroyed, so it cant be used if found. thats why they tell you not to laminate it.

@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723 7 лет назад

neuromorph don't make it easily destroyable. It's not only a federal document, but a REALLY important federal document. What you want to do is add security features to it. Make it like a license.

@mikelitoris8809 7 лет назад

Ionlymadethistoleavecomments A replacement is like $5. All you have to do is provide proof of identity.

@Renozuken_ 7 лет назад

And if you have no proof of identity? what do they ask for when you attempt to get one?

@broodypie2216 7 лет назад

Renozuken they ask for everything, more than once, takes months, and can easily ruin years of progress

@Oxidization00 4 года назад

"they just need your time and location of birth" hey is that what all those astrology sites ask for? haha............. 😦

@solomonsodipe6669 4 года назад

Oxidization00 damn lol

@janinerodriguez4893 4 года назад

Corey Playz 😂

@joned1000 4 года назад

Corey Playz you mean a myth

@DragonSodaDrawings 4 года назад

@Slumerican Mystik i don't believe in astrology but i just wanna clarify that zodiac signs arent based off of the months exactly lol. take aries, which starts around the 20th of march and extends halfway into april

@ComradeHellas 4 года назад

ROFL

@dijikstra8 Год назад

Such a bizarre system. In Sweden we have national ID numbers, consisting essentially of your date of birth followed by four digits, the last of which is a checksum. Finding a valid number is not very hard (they're not even secret), but also doesn't really do much, an ID number alone is not a form of identification.

@ReubenAStern Год назад

In England we have a national security number. It's very similar. It says it's not ID on the front, but the "authorities" will use it as ID whenever it suits them.

@dogsofwar157 4 года назад

Learning about social security cards from a RU-vid video because your public school is to useless .

@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75 4 года назад

That's why you go to a school not ran by the government. The teachers at charter schools are more interesting and are more passionate at there job than 75 percent of the teachers at public schools

@flexican5399 4 года назад

Camdyn Standley you don’t need school for this, wtf? It’s just a card that now can also work as a form of ID, and you need it for retirement, anyone’s parents will tell them if they asked.

@aellyalwardi 4 года назад

Did they also not teach you the proper uses of “to” and “too”

@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75 4 года назад

@@aellyalwardi Yeah, but I guess she or he didn't listen

@uruiamnot 4 года назад

In your free time, could you please watch a RU-vid video to learn how to write a sentence?

@bpierce2100 7 лет назад

Ahhhh I see my that bi-annual edition of CGP Grey content has arrived

@FactHubREAL 7 лет назад

Ikr I thought he was dead lol

@colormorado1699 7 лет назад

FactHub deseo

@Brydude87 7 лет назад

this is very confusing( which no wonder I saw this video too much) and I finally know why my social security is important

@fuckoff7459 7 лет назад

FactHub no but you getting closer

@musicalofethics 7 лет назад

omg

@dorissaclaire 2 года назад

I had no idea people didn’t used to have social security numbers since birth…it’s always seemed crazy to me you are supposed to keep track of one single piece of paper literally since birth.

@novacolonel5287 Год назад

Greetings from Germany, where I'm proudly looking at my current ID card, issued by the federal government, heir of a centuries-old tradition of ID cards designed to identify citizens. It's unique, coded, laminated, credit card sized, with biometric features, basic information about me and my primary place of residence, photograph and enables me to cross the border to all Schengen countries without needing a passport. :D

@gigirauchut1882 Год назад

I, as a disillusioned American, envy you so much

@auxilia5506 Год назад

Ah, German passports are great. I just had to apply for a new one because mine is about to expire. I´m looking forwart to finally have the function for online identification enabled. :D

@blumac9801 4 года назад

Fun Fact: Don't give your social security number to Microsoft tech support.

@stuartd9741 4 года назад

Why?

@randy4443 4 года назад

Stuart D scammers. They don’t work for Microsoft

@masonsilvers6789 4 года назад

@@randy4443 thats true.

@jeretoon8350 4 года назад

Stuart D r/woooosh

@yukiko5819 4 года назад

Im not from the US so im curious. What happens if you give it to them?.

@rydaguy_1 3 года назад

i don’t know why i found this so funny but i nearly died at “You got a John Smith?” “Go Fish.”

@thelocalnecromancer1224 2 года назад

Uh... help. I don't get it.

@ikatulo_yt 2 года назад

@@thelocalnecromancer1224 I'm guessing cause John/Jim Smith are Insanely common names and Go Fish is a game where you match cards?

@davidqharmon7311 2 года назад

@@thelocalnecromancer1224 brainlet

@mariox204 2 года назад

@@ikatulo_yt if you want a create a story and include an US person need to incluse one john or one smith

@Oneamongthelegion Год назад

You called?

@AwokenEntertainment 2 года назад

Wow it's crazy when you find out things like this that aren't really at all what they're talked up to be..

@homfri111 2 года назад

i remember the pain in the ass it was to get my SS card reprinted because i invalidated it by having it laminated. I thought protecting it from flood or water damage was a smart thing, SSA said other wise, and when your number card is invalid to the govt but not business you go through the pain of having a reprint, which only pisses one off more when one of the options at the time was a rigid plastic card thats just a cardboard card sandwiched between some plastic....

@lmnop29 2 года назад

I too never understood why protecting such an important and *very fragile* document is considered bad.

@marissaa8734 7 лет назад

"There are security reasons you shouldn't... YOINK"

@rev_dude 6 лет назад

2:16 You're welcome Mic drop Mic catch because mics are expensive

@bananya6020 6 лет назад

Rev_dude not really compared to other stuff; software costs way more

@TheSpecialJ11 6 лет назад

Hey, I like that color

@liuner2479 5 лет назад

Electroblade that's why they invented "Cracks"

@donovanb8247 5 лет назад

Electroblade yeah but I wouldn't drop pro tools either.

@M4tchStickGirl 4 года назад

I have a HUGE problem where my physically abusive mentally ill birth mother refused to hand over my documents (and SS card) when I left. 4 years of tax fraud and 7 years of stalking followed, leading up to one restraining order and a court ruling for her to hand them over. Guess who feigned ignorance with the classic “I have no idea what you’re talking about?” That followed another case of fraud- medical insurance, and a violation of HIPAA- and an unbelievably easy way for her to track me down using the SSN. Mind you, the SSN is a very easy 9-digit number for her to remember even if police one day manages to remove the documents from her possession. Years and years later, I am ironically trying to convince the SSA that the SSN is a VERY important number that shouldn’t be in the hands of a mentally ill abuser that has attempted to find and kill me.

@danielponder690 2 года назад

Some of this has changed to the system he describes now. Also, I was born abroad and came over aged 4, but wasn’t registered immediately upon arrival but months after coming. So observant loan underwriters do notice the discrepancy of the age of birth versus the SSN registration date

@banker4468 Год назад

Why does America always want to be different?

@sofiacontreras5930 5 лет назад

I recently tried getting a driver's permit (in Ohio). I brought in my passport, state ID (CA state ID), and proof of Ohio residency. I wasn't able to get that driver's permit, though, because I needed my social security card. I was able to apply for a replacement card online and got the card a few days ago. It is literally just a slip of paper. Not even cardboard. Why is this slip of paper considered such an important piece of identification when it isn't supposed to be one and isn't able to do that job well! Ugh.

@jmanko 4 года назад

W2 form would have worked also instead of the social security card. That's what I used for my license because my social security card is laminated and the DMV wouldn't take it. But you had a passport already meaning you didn't need the new TSA approved license. You can use your passport to get through the TSA checkpoint when you fly.

@CristianCiupitu 4 года назад

@ukkr what's the problem with "REAL ID"?

@breaklux3823 4 года назад

@ukkr you do realize that most countries already have IDs with secure numbers for their citizens, right?

@mainwayne1352 4 года назад

Five years ago when I went to renew my drivers license in Colorado. They would not accept my drivers license as a form of ID. I needed to come back the next day with a piece of mail that was addressed to me. My drivers license was accepted everywhere, except the place that issued it.

@kristyann9912 4 года назад

@@mainwayne1352 😂😂😂😂😂Unbelievable!!!

@EINSTEINIUMEPICNESS 6 лет назад

Can I point out that the number Grey used for Joe Generic is a valid number issued in New York between 1936 and 1950

@Mr__Joe 5 лет назад

Oh my!

@lucabrandalesi6743 5 лет назад

Yeah that explains wtf is going on with this system. And I'm still not sure why Americans don't want an identification card like every first world country

@suprtroopr1028 5 лет назад

@@lucabrandalesi6743 I don't understand it either. The only thing I could think people could find issue with would be the manor of information that could be attached to that one card. Granted, thats literally what already happens with your SSN... stubbornness? Im going to go with stubbornness.

@blobfishchin 5 лет назад

@@ordinarychef we don't even care anymore, but apparently we still do

@Lambda_Ovine 5 лет назад

He kind of doxed somebody.

@DJBigMac209 2 года назад

I'm so glad I watched until the end, because when I saw Kifflom I instantly started laughing because a handful of people are going to get the reference and the rest will now be looking on youtube "What is kifflom?". Love the great video

@NarutoUzumaki-rl5yl 2 года назад

The last 15 seconds are the best description of something I’ve ever heard

@bonnie.f 3 года назад

Fun fact- I didn't get a SSN until I was 3, when my little brother was born, and my parents got our numbers at the same time, so his number is the one directly after mine. Kinda fun knowing someone else's birthday and SSN....

@rachele3334 3 года назад

I had a co-worker that we found out was born a few days after my husband at the same hospital, so their social security numbers are only a few numbers off. Sometimes I would ask her what his number was when I needed to fill something out cause I can never remember his!

@InsertName69 2 года назад

My dad has the same situation, except there was no twin and they’re a year apart.

@briabree7683 2 года назад

@@rachele3334 you really having people who isn't family have that kind of access to your HUSBAND'S SSN number? Crazy..

@colgatemodel18 2 года назад

This exact same thing happened with my dad, his brother and sister

@saintjames8018 2 года назад

My brother and I received ours at 16 and we are exactly 1 number apart. :)

@CoolQuokka 7 лет назад

Holy shit! This guy's taking Roy off the grid! This guy doesn't have a social security card for Roy!

@latetoevolve 7 лет назад

We're out of off white Persians

@Jackdarkgem22 7 лет назад

Never go back to the carpet store!

@CarrieFisherman 7 лет назад

Damn it Morty, you only lived for 68 years!

@zac9311 7 лет назад

this is what the comment section was made for. this is good stuff. stop trying to host a formal debate, thats not what its for and youre only encoraging deviciveness. gg tho quokka, made me laugh

@camperben 7 лет назад

Don't thrash my Roy score man....

@cg0825 Год назад

We used to use our SSN as our college ID and it was printed right on there. That was the mid 1990's when the internet was just starting to become a thing. Now just about every school (I hope) has done away with that practice. The college ID's we had were basically laminated cards nothing like today and thinking back they were incredibly insecure even by that era's standards.

@cg0825 Год назад

Jobs still ask for a social security card and driver's license when you are hired but in lieu of that you can use a US passport number. I have my card stored away somewhere I am not even sure I could tell you where it is right now.

@Hansgame Год назад

i found your channel yd, and binged all your videos. they are from years ago but still up to date and very well made. thank you !

@bmobmo6438 4 года назад

A national number for a people that doesn't want one, on an id card that fails at id, given to everyone, except when it isn't, for a program that's universal, except when it's not. That sums this thing up pretty well.

@KryptKicker5 4 года назад

Such is the nature of government.

@meferswift 3 года назад

@@KryptKicker5 *USA and some extra.

@curtmacquarrie 3 года назад

@@KryptKicker5 Such is the nature of the US government you mean. Nobody else has this issue.

@sebastianjost 3 года назад

@@curtmacquarrie there are always exceptions in the real world. The US's social security numbers just are a particularly bad example.

@rexpigott2406 3 года назад

Get on line to get replacement social security car

@militustoica 3 года назад

Until recently, SSNs also served as military service numbers for everyone in the US Armed Forces. I wish that had never been the case. Myself and many people I know ended up giving ours out so constantly and casually that tens of thousands or more a year had their identities stolen.

@ThisisFerrariKhan 2 года назад

Don’t forget we got our information stolen TWICE. I got the letter in the mail two years straight from two different incidents during the time from 2014 to 2016.

@bane4743 2 года назад

Ohh I see you got the letter as well too.

@RestoVette 2 года назад

We still do this, I be giving my last 4 over the phone every time I need to schedule anything or receive any medical info 🙄

@sirclarkmarz 2 года назад

it would be so much more efficient if we all just took the mark of the beast

@rottie615 Год назад

Yep, I lost my dog tags with my SSN on them 😖

@maucazalv903 Год назад

I always wondered why between certain personal information people wanted to hide their birthday (at least in American cartoons it was like that), "there are thousands of people born on that exact date, what useful information could someone get to use against you?" *now I get it, at least for the US people it makes a lot of sense to hide it xd*

@jixer1956 Год назад

As an American, I literally just realized that.

@chanmarr8118 2 года назад

That would explain why I came across someone who had a similar SSN to mine at one of my jobs. Our bdays were close too, at least, born the same year. Also met a couple from another country that had a one number difference between them, the last one. That’s when I realized you could probably guess a valid SSN.

@NeverEverTM 4 года назад

This sounds like that ID card i made as a kid when i was roleplaying with some kids that was made of a piece of paper and some writing with my name and age

@error-not-found7415 3 года назад

even yours made as a kid is better than the social security number system.

@joaobaptista320 3 года назад

@@error-not-found7415 He's smarter then the Congress

@dazaran714 7 лет назад

I'm disappointed in you CGP grey. You should have used "Jen Erick" for your fake SSN card. I mean... Joe Generic? c'mon son.

@WoWKoest 7 лет назад

Right? it's a bit generic..

@IsYitzach 7 лет назад

Might have been his animator's idea. Talk them instead.

@rhioker 7 лет назад

Doesn't Grey animate these himself?

@Shadowif 7 лет назад

dfsDylan he works with an animator now. Listen to the podcast hello internet and cortex. He talks about it there a bit

@joncalon939 7 лет назад

Wouldn't it really suck if had sick parents that gave you "Jen Eric" for a name? I wouldn't put it past some foreign national who would give that name to their kid...

@KyuubiNaruto41 2 года назад

All I know about my card is it didn't take long to reach a washer after being trusted to have it, still in one piece amazingly enough, and now I know how the numbers were created. Though with how the numbers are determined I'm surprised they haven't had issues with copies yet or maybe they keep going until they get a number not in use.

@PigsCanFIy 2 года назад

Just discovered you and you had me cracking up the entire video

@digitalfootballer9032 5 лет назад

I lamenated mine when I was about 12 years old. Fast forward about 20 years...notices "do not laminate" on card...oops.

@muchozolf 5 лет назад

Steve "Do not laminate" "Not to be used as an identity card" What the hell is wrong?

@TheRiiiight 5 лет назад

It's actually so in the case of getting lost the paper it's printed on will hopefully dissolve away before someone else can find it. It's basically the one security feature it has lol.

@seanf1268 5 лет назад

I laminated mine too. Fuck the ss

@seanf1268 5 лет назад

I hope someone steals my ID and have fun

@flinch622 5 лет назад

You should lament your social security card: future payments are corrupted by unrelenting under adjustment where inflation is concerned. That's one reason energy is left out of the most common government inflation stats: it is accurate/resets on a rolling daily basis, and the program can't afford to keep up with real inflation. So not only is the recipient going to be underpaid, but you will be "means tested" to boot - that "income" [which is effectively just a refund of monies paid] will push any other money you come across into a higher tax bracket. Thank Bill Clinton for getting that snowball rolling, then thank Obama while you're at it: as the fed hit the nitrous on printing and distributing billions [mostly overseas to disguise the event, knowing that would come back to the stock market], the proposal put to congress at a time of concentrating the lions share of inflation into the stock market was to freeze COLA to ss recipients. In real dollar terms... that was a cut. Compare that to progs screaming about Newt planning on 4% increases vs. 7% when he was speaker and... at no time should a government program be considered a place of safety. In the event of a real emergency, bureaucracy stays while benefits get cut.

@lukemurphy7917 3 года назад

In Ireland we have passports, passport cards, drivers license but not really a identity card, when proving I’m 18 at pubs and nightclubs I always use my out of date passport (even tho I was about 9 in it ) always gets a laugh from the bouncers which helps get in

@oz_jones 2 года назад

Same thing in America - no NATIONAL id cards

@Larsino2000 2 года назад

Passport card and drivers license are both ID cards.

@Nexus9118 2 года назад

@@Larsino2000 He is taking about national ID card.

@Larsino2000 2 года назад

@@Nexus9118 you need to learn that a passport, passport card and drivers lucense are all a form of ID and are all supplied by your goverment on a national level. All 3 are a national ID. A passport is not a ID card but more a ID book because its not a card.

@Abi-bi6cb 2 года назад

@@Larsino2000 yes but there isn't a single national ID system. Passports are issued by the embassy and vary depending on your nationality, whilst driving licences are issued by a separate agency and not everyone has one. Same in the UK too.

@einsteinboricua 8 месяцев назад

I gave my SSN to a Nigerian prince who promised me a hefty sum if I let him use my SSN to open a bank account. I’m patiently waiting because Nigeria takes a long time to open bank accounts but he promised that once it’s open, I’d have $15M.

@Kyle_v2 Год назад

5:07 mines not even cardboard it is just paper lmao

@aidan3321 5 лет назад

He called the dude “Joe Generic”. He should’ve been called “Gene Eric”

@LeglessWonder 4 года назад

Was thinking Jenn Neric

@herrscherofsweets9583 4 года назад

How about "Genea Rick"

@leeoswald668 4 года назад

It's like an Easter egg everywhere Dear typical and regular John Doe

@disembodiednarrator 4 года назад

*JULY 28 INTENSIFIES*

@jw4277 3 года назад

Jean rick

@ourtalechara9341 2 года назад

"And the last four digits just count up in order." *Pain*

@amaureaLua Год назад

That's not the real problem, though. The problem is that the number is used as a *password*, where simply knowing it is taken as proof that you're that person. If it were just a label, as it was supposed to be, then it wouldn't matter that it's predictable and publicly known.

@kingvinoda3896 Год назад

When almost every other democracy in the world has some form of citizen ID the American people are just petty.

@SquareoftheLightOnes 2 года назад

If you have a twin sibling, then their social security number will be your social security number with the last digit having a difference of one.

@zombieslayer1468 2 года назад

probably

@alyssapaull2128 6 лет назад

"Yoink!"

@ArgKaiser 6 лет назад

2:16

@christianbernier8932 6 лет назад

My mom liked that

@brockbanda5992 6 лет назад

alyssa paull I gave you the 1,000th like

@karenhuntington9783 5 лет назад

Dawson Ditzler yep

@shaangraham 5 лет назад

2:17

@AbudBakri 7 лет назад

Social Security doesn't make me very feel very secure...or very social for that matter.

@JJRicks 6 лет назад

Dr.StickFigure you again

@neilisbored2177 6 лет назад

And it definitely doesn't make me feel number.

@VoodooV1 5 лет назад

That's probably something you should see a shrink about. Don't blame the gov't for your problems.

@hoseadavit3422 5 лет назад

Kinda like the Holy Roman Empire

@RoryRose_ 5 лет назад

But does it make you feel card?

@fordtechchris 2 года назад

Fun fact, social security was designed to pay out one year after the national life expectancy. Thus the program was only designed to help people who accidentally lived too long and be another cash grab from everyone else.

@SandfordSmythe 2 года назад

Life expectancy means half of the people.

@fordtechchris 2 года назад

@@SandfordSmythe and screw the other half that pay but will never get paid ;-)

@hardtruthnotsoftlies5706 2 года назад

It's NOT a "cash tran" because it's EARNED money by those who WORKED & PAID Federal taxes! 🙄

@sd-ch2cq 2 года назад

That's how tontines have been working for centuries: everyone pays in, and the longest-lived individuals get the whole amount

@Jerry_F Год назад

The social security is legit a scam,

@dougdimmadome331 2 года назад

Kifflom brotha!!! May Kraft be with you always 🙏🙏🙏

@jerrywigginsii2547 4 года назад

It's a trust fund. The problem is, there's no trust, and there's no fund

@rketkar5458 3 года назад

Wtf is going on America

@jerrywigginsii2547 3 года назад

Same shit different day?

@cheeze5875 3 года назад

At this point social security is basicly a ponzi scheme that somehow creates an infinite amount of welfare with no changes to how much it takes in. Its why im really happy to be in that special group of railroad workers that gray mentioned. Same idea but without all the government inefficientes so i know my money will actually still be there.

@BigDaddyWes 3 года назад

So my Grandparents collecting SS checks are getting fake money?

@jerrywigginsii2547 3 года назад

Yes, on multiple levels. 1 the dollar is BS at this point. 2 that's not the money they were told they were saving. That money was gone long ago, they're getting the money I'm being told I'm saving

@alfalafelstine1536 7 лет назад

Please take a moment of silence, in honour of the Great Tax Child Genocide...

@nalee2788 Год назад

Gasp, the US have done something in the worst way possible Such surprise, I feel so omgged

@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor Год назад

Here in Australia, we don't have a national ID card either. We use our drivers' licenses or even passports for identification.

@mirzaahmed6589 Год назад

Plenty of countries don't.

@leirawhitehart1236 4 года назад

You know, I always wondered what social security cards were for and why they were so important, because honestly, I don't think my mom knows. She just always told me that it was important, but never why. And school sure as heck didn't teach me what it is, what it is for, or why it is so important, so, here I am. Learning about something so important on RU-vid, like it's a fun fact.

@maximsarmanov 2 года назад

they are not important. Only the number is.

@stayswervin554 2 года назад

It’s a tax identification number that your parents volunteered knowingly or unknowingly.

@loganwidener4811 Год назад

I'm a adult and I didn't know School failed me

@Unassuming_Gay 7 лет назад

THE GREY HAS SPOKEN

@saniyamariyam4956 7 лет назад

Mr. Grey has spoken!

@razaldazal2259 7 лет назад

Saniya Mariyam I hear his likes are rather unconventional.

@gilbertoscapini9063 7 лет назад

Akato is he mute?

@orn310 7 лет назад

The Grey speaks often to the Tims.

@King_of_Cards 2 года назад

thanks for teaching me how to guss credit card numbers

@bricefleckenstein9666 Год назад

2:25 The REAL reason the IRS got to use the SSN *FROM DAY ONE* more or less is that they are the ones that collect Social Security TAXES (from both employers AND employees). Therefore at least part of their usage IS in fact directly Social Security related.

@bertkarlsson1605 7 лет назад

FINALLY A CGP GREY VIDEO

@prod.mohomid 7 лет назад

Bert Karlsson ikr

@gilbertoscapini9063 7 лет назад

Bert Karlsson 4 months later u will writh this again

@9uvq0ephq9p8 7 лет назад

(that's not a podcast)

@bertkarlsson1605 7 лет назад

Дарина Рябова Well That's obviously a virus...

@masterphoenixharp8047 6 лет назад

Bert Karlsson I

@user-ph2nu9ky4e 7 лет назад

Am I the only one who is going to compliment the animation and voice acting quality spike and the many, many, *many* hours CGPGrey probably put into them?

@kirkland2228 7 лет назад

True, but I would add that Grey has hired an animator to help him, so chances are he didn't create the animations himself (though I'm sure he did the storyboarding and then reviewed/fine-tuned the animations).

@DrewKF 7 лет назад

// We've loved him lots in the past; unfortunately we now take him for granted and only have complaints to offer regarding his disappearance and lack of love for us as of late ;) If you're trying to gain kudos for a "caring about others" cause though, maybe try not undermining it all by making it about yourself, using prefixes such as "Am I, the me me me, as the only one who isn't lame like allll of you, the only one who cares about [insert issue]..." ;)

@dennisvdk6079 7 лет назад

call of duty mw3...

@MichaelTennerMT 7 лет назад

I would agree but he made 18 THOUSAND dollars from this video alone and still got a sponsor backing him.

@Izandaia 7 лет назад

More like $3,000.

@michaeldavis5497 2 года назад

Very Informative and I loved the gta reverence at the end

@heronic550 Год назад

funniest thing is, the number he used for example might be someones actual social security number just flashing on the screen all the time

@dylanbksp Год назад

it was

@missm8067 3 года назад

2:51 “Really? You’ve been... busy.” 😂😂😂

@a.d.t.mapping8792 3 года назад

"Lastly, it must have existed continuously since 1950." Welp, time to go to the Time Machine.

@SasNolan 3 года назад

Say that it comes from yr grandfather and he never registered it. Then ask yr family to pretend they are all into it. And just see what happens next out of lulz.

@BatkoNashBandera774 2 года назад

ask Guy Pierce to borrow his ;)

@a.d.t.mapping8792 2 года назад

@@SasNolan "Hey, your grandfather looks exactly like you in this picture"

@LurkerPlus 2 года назад

@@BatkoNashBandera774 - I know the film reference you're making there, but this wouldn't work, because he's Australian :-)

@sirclarkmarz 2 года назад

if you're a member of the military your SSN is also your primary identification number it appears on your dog tag as well

@waffleface5940 2 года назад

I did not know this and felt safer not knowing. Thanks for adding this to my list of topics to cry over.

@noahwilliams8996 7 лет назад

"Americans don't want an ID card." As an American: What? This is the first I've heard of this.

@noahwilliams8996 7 лет назад

I mean it SOUNDS exactly like what the idiots here would think, but are we really THAT bad??

@samkim4541 7 лет назад

Suggest id cards as a political official and the American public will immediately hurl nazi accusations at you.

@boldontarian 7 лет назад

You'd be surprised the number of people that go "ID CARDS INFRINGE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS AND LET BIG BROTHER TRACK YOUR EVERY MOVE, THEY'RE UN-AMERICAN!" Ironically, these are often the same people who are against illegal immigration, and if these cards were given to US citizens only it would greatly REDUCE illegal immigration. But good luck reasoning with stupid people, I guess.

@yoboychilli8173 7 лет назад

not an american but i though you guys didnt want it because the left thinks it leads to goverment to racial profile and the rigth wants small goverment and id cards lets the goverment know what you are doing

@shivorath 7 лет назад

@Cloud 19 Gaming You seem to have things a bit backwards there. I've never heard ANYONE on the Right oppose the idea of ID cards. Usually they are the ones proposing it and it's the Democrats crying RACIST!!!! at the top of their lungs and refusing to even discuss the idea, despite the fact that the idea of an ID card is not racist in any way.

@philcollins5457 7 лет назад

Quintessentially American; slapdash, the wrong tool for the job, and we're using it anyways. Feels like home.

@rjfaber1991 7 лет назад

What really makes it quintessentially US-ian is that despite not working at all like intended, if at all, it keeps being used because it so happens to be tradition and replacing it with something better inevitably triggers somebody to decry about presumed loss of liberty. That's the kind of thing that us Europeans always find so utterly baffling and simultaneously hilarious about people from the US; the tendency to cling sóó hard to your own past endeavours, even when they are immense failures, really is typical of the US and its people.

@KETimiko 7 лет назад

I'd argue what you described is quintessentially Eastern-European. You'd be mindblown how many people die in one year because they do their own electric work; electricians are more myth around here. Not like i know how many people die, we don't track it where I live. Although in fairness this phenomenon is in large part due to a lack of resources (mostly financial). Where I live we have a saying that essentially means "Fuck it. Good 'nough.". We all understand it's haphazard and we're all somehow fine with that... Until it breaks and than we're pissed. What I think is quintessentially American about this is along the lines of what Robert Faber said above me. Not fully understanding an issue but being afraid of change non the less, even if the change has been implemented elsewhere and society didn't collapse (Please indulge my poetic exaggeration).

@SeanStrain 7 лет назад

Winston Noble Dude, we just want you to use metric and stop being so stubborn. Literally every single American refuses to believe their country can do wrong and it's kind of scary to see how you all have this same, almost hivemind mentality.

@HackmannT 7 лет назад

How is the government the number one cause of unnatural death. I feel like that applies to the US way more if you count US troops that died in combat situations. No western European government is directly responsible for deaths. Our health regulations give most European countries a better life expectancy than the US. Here we take care of all our citizens, so the government is the number one cause of preventing death.

@volrath__ 7 лет назад

Winston Noble, and Americans don't? Your political system and constitution are based on European governments. You give more powers to your leader than most European nations. I would love to see some actual figures backing up your claim, because having lived in America and the Europe, I can promise you, Europeans have better health and quality of life than most Americans. I mean, how many American civilians need to be shot before some sort of gun legislation is brought in?! Most people in Europe can't even own a gun, and most will only ever see one in a museum let alone have 1 for every 8 people! Also, atleast European nations have government controlled free health care. In the UK if I get ill I'm going to a FREE hospital to get FREE treatment, doesn't matter if I'm homeless or rich we are all treated equally (yes you can pay to go private but many don't bother) Americans think you live in the greatest nation on earth, while not realising that your education and health care are way behind many nations. Oh, and your government is controlled by lobbyists paid off by big corporations, but that's besides the point.

@CrazyDrunkAsianMonkey 2 года назад

The government: keep your social security number private Every job application ever: we need your social security number

@michaelpepper821 Год назад

Nothing like having a national identification card with self esteem issues

@GamersOfDenmark 7 лет назад

3 months of checking the channel for a new video every day, finally it came!

@zusurs 7 лет назад

Jonas Eegholm Ever heard of notifications..?

@TheDrMashup 7 лет назад

Artūrs Savickis they dont work

@f.j.n.9215 7 лет назад

Yes you can. Click the bell next to subscribe button

@codekillerz5392 7 лет назад

Piet Snot ...They dont work.

@UnbreakableRukawa 7 лет назад

they do, click on the bell

@jaketb193 7 лет назад

"This *episode* has been brought to you by SquareSpace"- been podcasting a bit more than video making lately eh

@MisterMajister 7 лет назад

Does anybody listen to the podcast? Is it good? I mean, it cant be as many as watch his videos.

@dawimu 7 лет назад

If you like to hear him talk, you should definitely give it a listen! I started with Hello Internet, and am now also listening to many others (like Cortex, another one with him)... BTW; on those podcasts, he also explains the delays :)

@Hand-in-Shot_Productions Год назад

I am an American, and I found this video quite informative! I knew that the Social Security number is very important, but I learned a lot about this "ID number" _not_ being an ID number, as well as the past and present flaws behind it! Thanks for the video!

@WilliamHaisch 2 года назад

Older people would write or carve their SSN on home stereo equipment, computer equipment, and other expensive things. Why? So they could prove it belongs to them in case it was ever stolen! Interesting to note, this was usually medium priced items, not expensive “durable goods” like automobiles, dish washers, clothes dryers, couches, or hot water heaters.

@theBCEproductions 2 года назад

IRS: "so you're telling me your child Thanos Squarepants isn't real?"

@aryanb8700 3 года назад

6:13 Took me a 4 years to notice that that's the logo from The Episilon Programme in GTA V

@SnoFitzroy 2 года назад

"Programme"

@minorcomet282 2 года назад

Kifflom!

@zaferryt4987 2 года назад

I Nocticed it imeatitaly

@johngiammattei1505 Год назад

This... is actually a great vid. Thx for the great facts!

@shapesnatch1341 Год назад

Why the hell do Americans not want a national ID card? Why is that controversial?

@WateverWatever04 6 лет назад

Damn, you just giving out Joe Generic's SIN number like that? Tsk smh

@merrittanimation7721 6 лет назад

WateverWatever04 I know right? Some people...

@demonride15 5 лет назад

He could of changed his social.

@jameshurley615 5 лет назад

How rude

@user-xb9yv2ci4c 5 лет назад

I still didn't get, why it is such a problem, if others know your number.

@ytu8080 4 года назад

0000000 0000000 are you 2 years old? It controls your freaking life

@NLTops 7 лет назад

What? Why wouldn't you have ID cards? That's just silly.

@nym1001 7 лет назад

welcome to america :D

@cosmicpastel29 7 лет назад

We do, they're just issued at state level and not federal.

@Falcon4224 7 лет назад

Octavia It's not a required card though, and you have to pay a fee to get one issued in most states. Most nations don't have such a fee, and many others require you to have an ID.

@Falcon4224 7 лет назад

Niles Nibogie Nobody is arguing that ID cards are racist, they're arguing that Voter ID laws are racist because they disproportionately affect minorities. A very fine line, but an important one nonetheless.

@nym1001 7 лет назад

I would argue the line isn't that fine but a national ID card would take the issue of race away not to mention solving several other problems at the same time.

@SourceCod33 Год назад

My work uses the last 4 of our social as the key we use to clock in and do anything on the computer…. And the last four of every supervisor or above are listed on a sticky note right next to the computer