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The Better Part of Humankind: Aristocrats in Late Antiquity 

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The Roman Aristocracy considered themselves to be the "wellborn few" and the "better part of human kind", destined to lead the Roman Empire on its course through time. In an influential 1998 article, Peter Brown examines what made the Late Roman aristocrats tick. In this video, we dissect that article.

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@hamnchee
@hamnchee 2 года назад
I could see this, stoic, woman focused, Christian discipline of lust transforming into Chivalry.
@TheFallofRome
@TheFallofRome 2 года назад
Yes we’ll talk about it in later videos. One of the key books on the subject is War and the Making of Medieval Monastic Culture
@hamnchee
@hamnchee 2 года назад
@@TheFallofRome Awesome, love the channel!
@Archangelm127
@Archangelm127 Год назад
15:00 - Insert a "precious bodily fluids" joke here. XD Seriously, this insight into cultural psychology is fascinating. Thank you for breaking it down so clearly and with such flourish. :)
@njb1126
@njb1126 8 месяцев назад
I just got this book in the mail today, so I'm looking forward to reading the article and revisiting your video as well. Keep up the great work Mike.
@CarlinConnolly
@CarlinConnolly 2 года назад
You can see so many of the roots of the roman catholic church's teachings and rules are actually the moral perspective of late roman aristocrats rather than judaism or semitic/levantine culture,
@TheFallofRome
@TheFallofRome 2 года назад
Yes there is definitely a mix. Christianity arises out of a strong blend of multiple cultures, not just Judaism
@shorewall
@shorewall 2 года назад
Yep. Starts with the Jews, goes to the Greeks, spreads through the Roman World, and then the Germanic tribes get involved. Going further, Christianity in the Americas, Africa, or Asia would be different than Christianity in Europe.
@Matlacha_Painter
@Matlacha_Painter Год назад
Completely fascinating! Highly elucidating. I’ll be subscribing.
@djolds1
@djolds1 2 года назад
Insightful and operational. Thank you.
@TheDavid2222
@TheDavid2222 9 месяцев назад
Thanks, that was really informative!
@FirstnameLastname-py3bc
@FirstnameLastname-py3bc 2 года назад
Last time I checked it was a mankind
@Huyedelomalo
@Huyedelomalo 2 года назад
I'm interested in Sasanian aristocracy during and after the Muslim conquest
@zwatwashdc
@zwatwashdc Год назад
Very interesting!
@t.d.writer1589
@t.d.writer1589 10 месяцев назад
Interesting to think the Antiquity Roman's ideas around dominance in the home and control of inner passions would synch with Christianity's ideas of giving oneself over to God. Then that would inspire total celibacy along with strictness toward sexuality in Puritan culture which would then serve as a foundation for America's current ideas around sex.
@theoutsider101
@theoutsider101 2 года назад
I have watched a few of your videos. This is the first one I saw what you looked liked. Until this one where I saw you, I thought you were agent smith from the matrix. Just found your channel great clips.
@Kholdaimon
@Kholdaimon 10 дней назад
My first time seeing him as well, and I didn't know what to expect, but for some reason it wasn't this normal looking dude, with a voice like that I was expecting a very large specimen of a man... ;-)
@Richard0292
@Richard0292 Год назад
Very good.
@Jaunyus
@Jaunyus Год назад
Insightful. Could you do a video discussing the influences of stoicism on Christianity in the late empire? Thank you
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 Год назад
While it is not the primary topic, they do discuss that at some length here. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZR-paFQ76HY.html
@Jaunyus
@Jaunyus Год назад
@@nevisysbryd7450 thanks, I'll check it out
@sethheristal9561
@sethheristal9561 Год назад
I can't describe how much this teaching is actual or relevant to me, and if I'm not projecting, to our world today. I would like to shove this video into the faces of so many people I know. Just a question would remain. In your opinion, this kind of hyerarchy was more of a decadent self delusion, a cope, a decisive cause for the dark ages; or more of an effective force, generated by the "need", that led the Empire and managed to make it to last as much as it did? In other words is the ideology worth buyng into? Or a neutral factor?
@gerardgearon4206
@gerardgearon4206 Год назад
Number 400 in the up-roots, yippee. Just love and learn from every episode. Collectively a growing education. Thanks from the UK ❤🤍💙
@witherbossmoregamesc
@witherbossmoregamesc 2 года назад
17:00 How exactly do we know this? Were people back in the day really that open about this enough to estimate their beliefs?
@TheFallofRome
@TheFallofRome 2 года назад
It would take time for me to track down the actual sources, but we have many letters and other private documents, as well as sources like joke books etc which allow us to get insight into this topic. For a useful secondary source I’d suggest Sex and Sexuality in Greek and Roman Culture by Skinner, and A History of Private Life by Vayne
@pompeiusmagnus2276
@pompeiusmagnus2276 2 года назад
Besides Peter Brown's book "Late Antiquity," can you add other links to sources for late Roman aristocratic personal and social mores?
@TheFallofRome
@TheFallofRome 2 года назад
Sure thing! I’ll add some in the description
@michaelstaeheli1598
@michaelstaeheli1598 3 месяца назад
I suggest Peter Brown’s 1978 book, “The Making of Late Antiquity.” It’s also a small book with a big impact. It discusses the shift in the world view of the urban aristocrat from a “classical” world of the city state and the immediacy of the gods, public and private, during the Republic and to the Late Roman world where power for the individual becomes distant and almighty vis a vis the State and the Christian God.
@waltonsmith7210
@waltonsmith7210 2 года назад
"The better part of Humankind." Lol, sure. How convenient for them. Ill never not be amazed by the towering, unbelievable arrogance of some people throughout history.
@spring-heeledjack3340
@spring-heeledjack3340 2 года назад
All identities of all types share a similar assumption. Less explicitly, sure.
@Hfil66
@Hfil66 Год назад
@@spring-heeledjack3340 Indeed, it is human nature for each of us to believe we do what we do because in doing it it makes us better than all the other people who don't behave in that 'superior' manner. Even in claiming another person is being arrogance is in its own way an act of 'superiority', in that you believe yourself to be superior to the other because you do not think yourself to be 'arrogant'.
@KertPerteson
@KertPerteson 2 года назад
I likje this video
@Alasdair37448
@Alasdair37448 Год назад
amazing how there are similarities today the wealthy of our society also see themselves as being separate from the working man many parallels exist today.
@Kalarandir
@Kalarandir Год назад
The American idea of the middle class confuses things when looking at structures such as this, after all, what even defines the middle class cannot be defined. A simpler structure, which I am more familiar with is, there are the working class, and the aristocracy.
@Hfil66
@Hfil66 Год назад
I see that simple division to be overly simplistic. Society, like any organisation (e.g. a corporation, a church, or any other structure of human beings) needs to have many layers of delegation of power from the top to the bottom. In a typical large industrial or financial corporation, you will have an executive, then many layers of management, and then the workers at the bottom of the layer (but even amongst the workers there will be a hierarchy). So too, with an empire (or other political entity) you need to have an executive (the Emperor), then layers of management (the nobility and aristocracy) and then various layers of workers below them (in the classical world, most of the workers would have been slaves, just as they would have been in the Ottoman empire, although many higher class slaves would have done 'white collar' work). I do agree that the notion of 'middle class' is itself a bit undefinable, because there is more of a continuum of delegation of responsibility, so whether you divide that continuum into two or the groups is equally as arbitrary. The American idea of 'middle class' is made even more ambiguous when one looks at the American Myth that assumes anybody can rise to the executive (i.e. even someone from the lowest rank can one day become 'President') and so within that myth everybody becomes 'middle class'.
@OhioDan
@OhioDan 8 месяцев назад
What does "Antonine" mean in this historic context?
@OhioDan
@OhioDan 8 месяцев назад
Nvm, I got to the 20 minute mark and saw the explanation.
@elvolvasky69
@elvolvasky69 2 года назад
Love this topic
@hyokkim7726
@hyokkim7726 2 года назад
15:00 The abduction of Sabine women?
@user-eb7pe9bp2q
@user-eb7pe9bp2q Год назад
This is Late Rome Also, Cultures will shift constantly, with perhaps the striking main basis staying. I mean, I’m sure the culture has changed a lot from 8th Century B.C to the 4-5th Century AD
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