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I love them both as they do make great suspension products!!! But I am going for Fox as I do own a lot of the servicing tools and I don't want to invest in more tools for a Rock Shox fork...
I road a fox 36 with avalanche open bath cartridge recently and now I want to build up a z1 in red with the same damper. The ride quality reminded me of my pre 07 marzocchis but stiffer.
Of the two I'd have to say Rockshox even though I've owned both. They both make an excellent product but I think the fundamental difference is, Fox expect owners to just send their fork/shock to a suspension specialist for any work which presents as a bit snobbish and elitist. Rockshox on the other hand have all manuals and parts lists available on the SRAM website, and the way they're written it's like they genuinely want to help you maintain and enjoy their products. I bought a 2020 Reba fork and Monarch shock for my 2008 Stumpjumper and I've been able to fully service both of these myself; the tools/parts were no more expensive than a TF Tuned/Mojo service. Conversely the Fox 32s which I got with the Stumpjumper, no-one selling Fox parts in the UK could even supply me the correct dust seals! Luckily I had some Rockshox seals for some 2007 Rebas I have (which again, all the parts/manuals are still available for) and they fitted perfectly. Now I've fully serviced them (got the rest of the parts from Italy) the Fox 32s are great and I've fitted them to my hardtail but the whole experience puts me off buying a newer bike; certain sectors of the industry need to understand their customers a little more. I like my stuff to be owner serviceable 😀
I am in my 50s and grew up with Rockshox, but have bikes with Rockshox and Fox and both are great. Having the two big brands and the competetition between is good and leads to improvements and innovation.
I wonder though, since Fox has been around for way longer and have been in way more motor sports developing competition shocks if Rockshox just picked up reverse engineering late in the game? Granted it still creates competition.
Forks from both brands are awesome. Only difference is Fox use the Marzocchi name for their models with slightly less bells and whistles. But take nothing away, they’re all good! Loved my Bomber Z1
I have a Bomber on my old Litespeed 26" hardtail. 25 years old and it still feels good. Now that I know better, it is a little soft but I am 220lbs and that might have something to do with it:)
ive got a rockshox fork and fox shock both are good not really bothered which as long as it lasts with lower maintenance which i think has gotta be rockshox
I wish we could see shock dyno comparisons. Human senses are easily fooled, so I pay no attention to riders who claim one rides better then the other. Instruments can be designed to measure fork characteristics, then experienced riders can describe what the measured differences feel like to them. But his will never happen. It seems to be about 98% fanboy or hater, no engineering.
I love my Rockshox Zeb on my e bike , and i have upgraded to the Lyric ultimate 2023 for my Nukeproof scout and they are awesome and worth every penny 😃
I’ve tried most of them and I love them all. EXT, push, RS, Fox, and Ohlins. My new Shuttle LT has an Ohlins TTX2 Air shock and a Fox 38 Factory Fork. I think it all comes down to personal preference and I’m never afraid to mix and match
I have both, but prefer Fox. The quality of everything is so high that quality isn’t a differentiating factor. So what does differ is looks - the Fox looks more cool. As well I find the Fox easier, for some reason, to tune/behave the way I want. Though the RS Flight Attendant could a huge differentiator if it can take care of all the tuning for me.
For me its Cane creek shocks. The price is similar to rockshox, the adjustment and said longevity is really good and by far betterthan the rockshox shocks i Had. Plus the fact that its assembled in the usa. Just look up astonmtbs dvosaga ;)
Just went from a Rockshox reba to a fox factory 36. Obviously very different ball parks of forks but I cant see myself going back to rockshox after this switch....
Fox I think seem to have more of a small brand feel, even though they are not. I think a lot of people like fox and dislike RS purely because RS is a 'big global brand', which lots hate solely for that reason (take note Muc-off, yet wider/more diluted still product range!). People often like to make a less common choice as it feels 'more informed/aware.', whether it is or not.
My 2022 Cannondale Jekyll came with am RS Zeb up front and a Fox DPX2 in the rear, its a great combo but i think overall Rock Shox are my favourite and eventually ill swap the DPX for the Rock Shox equivalent.
Fox vs RockShox is an easy question for me. Both high end forks and shocks can be tuned to meet my riding needs; but, Fox has one of their service centers within 20 miles of my home...not that I have needed any full rebuilds/revalving yet.
I started on Rockshox Indy C and S back in the mid/late 90's. Had pretty much every version of the Pike since they came on the block and recently upgraded to the latest ultimates on my enduro rig. Only Fox I've ever had were a set of Terralogic's, with float rear circa 2007. Great forks, but just been a Rockshox fanboi since I started riding.
I have to admit, after seeing Jonesy on the last Dirt Shed Show, i was a bit scared for Anna. But after 20 minutes, Steve has been nothing but professional & reserved. Might it be that Martyn is the instigator of chaos and destruction ?
I’ve never risen a fox fork but I have risen a rockshox. And I have to say I replaced it with a pace rc36 stealth. It was the best decision I ever made
Always been Rockshox with a pair of Lyrics and deluxe RT2 on my last bike. New bike is Fox though and has a set of 36 Performance Elite and X2 Evol. Both are an upgrade on the new bike but I do find them a lot more compliant. Not as easy to set sag on fox though, I do love the printed scale Rockshox does
5:53 I'm a Marzocchi rider (the original). My Junior T (150 mm, 2730 g, open oil bath damping), build in the last millennium, only needed some new shaft seals. The coating on the dip tubes has still no wear sings. The black coating on many new forks dosen't seem to have a long durability. I see many relatively new bikes where you can see the coating begins to disapear.
I had the first Intense Tracer from 2000/2001, 80mm or 100mm travel, 26" wheels, 71* or 70* head angle. Was one of the best if not the best trail bike at the time.
Regarding the oval seatpost. I used to think the same, that an oval profile to the seat post to remove the need for keys and to ensure that the saddle is oriented correctly, seems logical. That was untill I came off the other week and my saddle had twisted about 45degrees off centre. I feared the worst but twisted it back into position and it clicked back into place, working fine. If any element of the seatpost was oval or square it would have been a write off.
Both fox and rockshox are amazing at the high end but if you're in the market for a budget fork then nothing beats rockshox, the recon, revelation or 35 are amazing for the price. But as far as fox goes the bomber z2 is an excellent value as well.
Manitou Markhor is roughly equal to the rockshox recon silver for a bit less money. Suntour tends to suck monkey balls though. With some exceptions but those ain’t cheaper then the entry rockshox forks.
Rock show, all the way. If for no other reason it's been easier to get parts for them over the years. I work on all my own stuff, minus trueing wheels. I've had a lot better luck with rock show as far as consumer available parts.
I got a set of old 99ish Boxxer triple clamp forks at the local tip shop for $5 NZD (about the cost of a cheap pickup Dominoes pizza) a few months back. Gonna build a cheap 2nd hand / free parts bike ... for a road hack when not filming my mediocre downhill attempts... think it will b overkill red... I have a set on my old Foes Weasel Museum piece (with Fox Vanilla Rx on the back) and 20 years later they are still the most comfortable things to hit a gutter on (of course gazzaloddi 3.0 tyres help the spongy feel. Wish I could still get them... Tyre manufacturers are turning their back on big 26" tyres.
Rockshox, primary reason is the sag marks printed directly upon the sliders and shock shaft. Why Fox gives this slam dunk away is beyond me….makes setting up effortless
Fox factory, buttery smooth 🤔hmm, I love fox and all my bikes are fox suspension in some form, but I defo think rs are a bit more smoother. The fox stuff tends to take a bit more fetling to feel right, but once set up they're fantastic.
I had the very first rockshox forks in the late 80s, but I’m 100% Fox now, I’m a heavy rider (250Ib) I find fox have larger max air pressure limits etc, and I find them them easier to set up etc. I love my current e-bike fox 38s.
I have a fox at moment, also love RockShox. Both are great, but is one that will not forget, my old BOS DeVille 26 that fork was amazing, fox a RockShox have a lot adjustment and it's good but never got the same feeling I had with the BOS fork, air rebound and done. Anyway we live in a time we can't complain about forks, any budget fork today will give more than most riders need. And that's amazing. love you guys.
I wonder if or when Rockshox will bring back Dual Air, I am on Ext Era with two independently adjustable air chambers, love it. No unessesary work when setting up the support and sensitivity. It has all of the adjustment of Grip2 damper, but has two chambers so easy and fast 5o get the fork setup decently. No need to remove air and install and remove spacers. Just adjust the chambers until you find the sweets pot. Also love that the cap has a hex slot so no more stuck cap. IV eonly tried budget Rockshox forks and a Fox 36 with Smashpoy, but I think I had a too girmnsprinh cus it felt so, but the fork got super creaky and loud, it sounded like it snapped in half when I did drops, was ptrownef fork, but was 2019 model so previous owner only had it a few months then me for a few, it was horrible, I installed the Era when it arrived, I could not take it anymore. Ha dit since 2019, in Nov or Oct I think. I did not even bother testing the air setup. Or go down in spring rate. It was so noisy I did not want to deal with "creak" 36 So far ERA has been flawless. I've had it since 06.2021, so dar no creaking. I ride a large Geometron G1 62.5 deg HA, about 18.14 kg bike, plus light that's a bit over 1kh ekstra, I am 181cm, more or less 86ish but that was before the scale broke and I got new kit. So might be less now, as I wear lighter and better pads, and don't wear shin pads anymore. But do use a torso protector and neck brace. So noy sure if I am heavier or lighter. But one thing I know for sure my bike is great so is the suspension. Maybe I can dial it in even more. I will see. But I've not tried the other brands. Only tried Rockshox budget XC forks. I don't count restriding friend's bikes at the pumptrack 😜
Performance wise I know both good, but from those in bike shops I've heard more negative around reliability about rockshox than I've heard about Fox. Currently have marzocchi and thinking next bike will be fox just because I'm hesitant to get something many shops have told me aren't reliable. And this was both shops and co workers that used to work in bike shops. And shops I wasn't in the market or buying from just service from. So they weren't going to be getting money from me buying a bike with Fox.
I have to say I much prefer Fox and Shimano - have SRAM and RockShox on other bikes including AXS, just can't beat the tarty Kashmir fox and XTR mechanical IMO! I always feel like fox is better and more sensitive/refined etc - but maybe requires a bit more setting in and maintenance
Have RS, Fox, and Marzocchi on my current bikes, but have ridden Manitou and Whyte. Overall It's a close call between RS and Fox for me. Would like to try riding Ohlins(mtb)or DVO. Have ridden Ohlins but on a moto bike. Surprised Showa hasn't entered the mtb suspension market yet
just happened to start with bikes equipped with fox and just stayed with it because that's what I'm familiar with . looking forward to trying some RS stuff soon
Both of them for Me,I could say they are the Best when it comes to this shocks.Also this bike from Trinity could say Good Technology,a big leap from the present Mountain bikes.Wish this could be brought to the Philippines
I'm just a regular mountain biker! With that said, I ride a RS Yari! I ride a lot of green, blue and a few black diamond trails! My Yari has the Push coil conversation! Absolutely love it! I ride for the fitness and the love of it. I ride a 2021 Giant Fathom. I also have a Trance. I find myself riding the Fathom all the time!
Would buy a fox but never with this ugly gold...... Aaand i love the user friendly diy Rockshox way of supporting us with service manuals tools amd spares... Hate the fox service dessert
Marzocchi as they have the best water seats for European weather and muddy conditions. Where as I have poured alot of water from many rockshox I have serviced back in the day. I Would love some ohlins if I was minted
Lugano is in Switzerland, not in Italy. It's also ”Minnaar”, with two N. As far as suspension goes, I have always been a RockShox guy, because they are efficient and easy to service by most people. This is very important for me. I have been one of the first For Forx owners in my country, took excellent care of them and the coating still went south. In my experience with Fox, they lacked midstroke support for years. It is as if they were tailor-made for those people who don't ride that hard and have the time to think about how their suspension is buttery smooth all over the place. And those people were for a good while those who would spend the extra buck on Fox, just to be able to say they have Fox on the bike. We also know that Kashima doesn't do anything, right? I haven't ridden the new RockShox forks, with ButterCups and bleeding valves, but my friends who did rave about them. I have been impressed by the Zeb before that. And I know somebody who owns an expensive aftermarket shock and says the new RS rear shocks are so good that he can hardly tell the difference. I have Öhlins on my latest bike, a Mondraker Foxy RR Carbon and my take is this: I set up the suspension ONCE in the shop an it works flawlessly since the, no arm pump, not even on the hardest long descent. That is very telling for me. But also: my 36 RXF developed play after just five rides and I got some bullshit response from Öhlins, who basically say that I need to take the fork to an authorized Öhlins mechanic and let him fill some oil in both legs and let the fork upside down over night. They are basically giving a mechanical issue a hydraulic solution. My friends who work with Öhlins say they are undermanned and that the Tenneco takeover did them no good. Suspension works amazing, though. Oh, and they were slow to answer at first, but then rushed to get back to me, as soon as I said I am looking for a Zeb for replacement. ;)
Back in the day I had Manitou, then Pace RCs. Now I have a Fox full sus and an RS hardtail. Both are great although I wish the Fox 34 was a bit more buttery even with kashima
In the past I haven't liked Fox. Some of that was because I didn't like that they were "the" brand for off-road. I also didn't like that they always sounded like they were very dry when compressing, which they've seemed to fix since then. I liked my RockShox on my previous bike, but the downside was that I had to have my rear shock warrantied twice, but the Pike fork was bulletproof. Unfortunately, that bike was stolen which gave me the opportunity to go to the dark side. Currently getting used to, and enjoying, Shimano and Fox components. Each have their advantages or parts I prefer.
rock shox boxxer team coil best fork i ever had. Air forks suck a$$ stiction generators, Every time you go out for a ride you notice the friction from the seals.
Nice Video, Love your Tec-Content Anna! 💚 ( & Doddy, for sure! ) Originally I was an absolut Marzocchi-Guy, but since the old italian brand is kinda done, I'm in love with my FOX Factory suspension of my Enduro too, like U Anna. 😎 Really like the content, please go on like this. Also loved to see U learnin Bunny Hops. ☺
I've ridden totems, pikes, lyrics, 36s and 34s, i just find rock shox easier to set up for some reasons, set same pressures on all forks and fox just feels harsher to rockshox for me, but could be my weak set up game
Should be said though, that between the two ...Rockshox and Fox ... your Fox enthusiast is more likely to have come by their brand loyalty based on esthetics and self image. At least where Factory is concerned. We're I to consider the purchase of a Fox fork ...and I may, the Performance Elite would be where I put my dollars. Image to me holds little sway. My tongue is firmly planted in my cheek.
In the same way you say people only buy fox for the image I could say it’s also “cool” for people to hate on fox because it is generally regarded as the best… between a 38 and a zeb I personally don’t think there’s any real discernible difference if both setup by the same rider on the same bike. Sram/shimano, fox/rs, 27.5/29, carbon/alu etc, people just love to pick a side and argue it and 8/10 will either have no idea what they are talking about or have never even tried the parts in question.
FOX 32/34 has worked better than the RS SID for me …. SID lockout was a bit rubbish on two of mine, might be rare I guess, just my experience. Currently running Fox34 live valve which I looooove the performance but hate the cables and external battery housing 🤷♀️ but when you’re racing you don’t notice that.
For me and my riding style I discovered that I have on all my bikes now and that is a Rockshox fork and Fox rear shock. And ya to some I'm breaking some unwritten rule, but out on the trail and they start dropping off behind me is all I have to say.
My first full suspension was fitted with suntour both ends they was the first air suspension I used but my upgrade bike a year later had rockshox and the feel was soooo much better than suntour I've used x fusion and fox but find rockshox easier to set up and feel amazing
Williams Racing Centre Hub is not like the Ochain, the Centre Hub allows you to shift whilst coasting whilst the Ochain adds a few degrees of float to the crankset to help alleviate pedal kickback and help the bike stay active under braking. A better answer would be Intends Rocksteady Magic Cranks! Just saying 😋
