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Is a $1000+ mountain bike fork worth it? 

Evans MTB Saga
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Is buying a suspension fork for over $1000 worth it? Will it be the solution to your problems? I bought the all new 2022 Ohlins RXF34 m.2 to find out.
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@briancrumpacker
@briancrumpacker 2 года назад
Strangely, the amount of clicks doesn't always tell the whole story. Each manufacturer usually has their own valving design which makes the amount of clicks subjective. Even if you set up both forks identically they will act differently. Great video!
@MisterCOM
@MisterCOM 2 года назад
Yes but more does mean more possible settings and thus more chsnce of getting it just right for yourself
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Haha yup I definitely experienced that!
@lucamartinelli7953
@lucamartinelli7953 2 года назад
@@MisterCOM not at all
@MisterCOM
@MisterCOM 2 года назад
@@lucamartinelli7953 if your fork has more "clicks" it allows for a wider range of adjustment between its defined minimum and its maximum and thus allows for more on the fly adjustment.
@williamconsorti2063
@williamconsorti2063 2 года назад
@@MisterCOM Not necessarily. You are talking about "Range of adjustment". The number of clicks divides the increments of adjustability of that range. You could have Very little range, but 40 "Clicks". In that case you would not feel any difference when adjusting the Fork/Shock. On the opposite end you could have a Huge range, but 3 Clicks. In that case you would really feel the difference between each setting. Cheers!
@zmiller1840
@zmiller1840 2 года назад
In all honesty a majority of hobby riders don't spend enough time on trail to notice a difference between a mid level and high end damper. An easy to set basic damper is far better for an average rider. Adding more clicks actually gives more chance to really whack out your suspension unless you understand what each one does.
@sufyanm4661
@sufyanm4661 2 года назад
I think moving through from low end to mid range to high end would help a lot of riders. Also if anyone has something like a fox grip or rockshox charger 2.1 rc2, then bracketing would really help to isolate each setting
@munkycox
@munkycox 2 года назад
I'm far from a pro but I can feel the difference in a better damper. Also the damper has nothing to do with the level of adjustment. Currently I'm running a Zeb charger R that only has rebound adjustment but it feels better than the recon with a MoCo damper I had on a previous bike that had rebound and low speed compression.
@sufyanm4661
@sufyanm4661 2 года назад
@@munkycox that’s simply because it’s a bladder style damper against a sealed cartridge damper. That’s two completely different worlds of damping
@zmiller1840
@zmiller1840 2 года назад
@@munkycox you just compared an entry level air fork to a high end. I hope that created a significant difference in feel as it definitely made your wallet lighter. And we aren't talking exceptions, hence the qualifier "majority"
@zmiller1840
@zmiller1840 2 года назад
@@sufyanm4661 for a lot of riders a $800-$1200 fork is not gonna benefit them over a $500 fork and the extra spent on coaching.
@softbingan
@softbingan 2 года назад
This guy is really smart to bring up the new rear shock at the last second!
@rich2632
@rich2632 2 года назад
Just got an ohlins rfx36 m2. Hopefully it’s worth it! Love the fact that it has a separate air chamber for ramp up. It eliminates the need for tokens and gives you much more adjustability
@T-rick
@T-rick Год назад
How is it so far?
@sciguyisanerd
@sciguyisanerd 2 года назад
The Fox Talas 32 I have on my bike was only $200 and it has tons of adjustments including adjustable travel from 100mm to 140mm and it’s definitely the nicest air fork I’ve ever used
@Idiotic.behavior.facility
@Idiotic.behavior.facility 2 года назад
U wanna trade for my manitou fork I’ve been looking for a talas fork
@Idiotic.behavior.facility
@Idiotic.behavior.facility 2 года назад
I literally bought it 3 months ago and it has a handful of rides
@sciguyisanerd
@sciguyisanerd 2 года назад
They aren’t the easiest to find but when you do they are usually pretty cheap
@Idiotic.behavior.facility
@Idiotic.behavior.facility 2 года назад
@@sciguyisanerd oh ok worth a shot lol
@kopecbruno
@kopecbruno 2 года назад
The single rebound adjustment on high-end forks affects low speed and also quite affects the high speed rebound.
@michaelbatey348
@michaelbatey348 Год назад
Ur first sentence was literally best thing I've heard on a MTB video. We have all stood at the top of a big hill or drop saying if I had 500mm suspension or a tractor I would ride that. But I believe it's lack of confidence unless ya bike is so cheap you bought it from Halfords and know it will snap.
@JaronBarendse
@JaronBarendse 2 года назад
30% sag seems like a lot for a fork to me. Most I've seen recommended is in 15-20% range. You get a lot harsher of a feeling setting at 30% and running that many tokens because it ramps up extremely fast. Would be cool for you to make a video comparing less tokens and less sag to more tokens and more sag. I've come to realize from my own experimentation less sag and less tokens usually gives an overall more supple feel at the top with a supportive feel in the mid stroke.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Sounds like a cool idea! I'm used to running sag at 20%, but Ohlins and yeti both recommend 30%. Going to be fun to experiment with it seeing how the bike build is one video away from completion
@JaronBarendse
@JaronBarendse 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga Just curious where you read read that? Ohlins documentation I've read suggests 10-15% for an rxf 34. Totally understand the 30% sag on the rear shock as that's pretty standard. Just hoping you are getting the most out of that suspension! Your videos are awesome!
@dandantillthen588
@dandantillthen588 Год назад
I think you should use only 1 token and go for 15% sag .
@dudeonbike800
@dudeonbike800 Год назад
Vorsprung or someone else makes this exact argument: people falsely believe more sag will give a more compliant feel. Instead, you're reducing your travel 10% AND hitting the steep section of the air curve too quickly. So you get less compliance. Counter-intuitive for sure. But higher pressures will keep you in the more compliant area of the air spring curve. Great video! Thanks.
@marklouieadame
@marklouieadame Год назад
I agree i use 1 token sag 15-20 then fine adjustment on compression and rebound you get to enjoy the travel and progressive air pressure
@ssslash583
@ssslash583 2 года назад
The reason the fork felt so harsh off the top with the stock volume spacers and 30% sag is because the lower the sag, the more sensitive the fork is off the top, so next time something like that happens I would recommend to try a lower sag such as 25%.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Wouldn't that require more pressure?
@JaronBarendse
@JaronBarendse 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga more pressure doesn't necessarily mean less supple and harsh. RU-vidr semi sendy does a great explanation of this. Would recommend anyone wanting to improve their suspension to check it out! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sG84WjHTc1A.html Awesome vid as always! Love your content
@ssslash583
@ssslash583 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga yes
@benjy288
@benjy288 Год назад
Many people don't realize that you can adjust your fork by changing the damper oil weight, I have a 35mm revelation that has the motion control damper, which actually performed pretty well, except for dealing with fast braking bumps, and in general it was a bit harsh overall, so I changed the damper oil from 5w 16.1 cst to 2.5w 6.7cst and boy what a difference, it feels great now, at least as good as my old lyric with the charger damper, I did have to add an extra 5psi to compensate, plus turn the rebound to full slow otherwise the fork would rebound too fast, but you can play around with different weights, and its super cheap too.
@StreetComp
@StreetComp Год назад
I don’t have much mtb xp but I can tell you that Ohlins has been making excellent dampers for auto and motorcycle racing for a long time
@taylorpfenning3029
@taylorpfenning3029 2 года назад
Whoa, 30% fork sag? That's way more than usual, I run 10-20%... That's what most manufacturers recommend as well.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
It's weird, I like 20% usually like Fox recommends, but Yeti is pretty adamant about 30% sag front and rear
@Mikesonbikes
@Mikesonbikes 2 года назад
Tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling me you know what you're talking about
@The_Real_JN
@The_Real_JN 2 года назад
@@Mikesonbikes literally haha, nearly every manufacturer recommends 25%-30% sag
@sufyanm4661
@sufyanm4661 2 года назад
@@Mikesonbikes not really. A lot of aggressive riders run anywhere from 15-20%, but suspension should be based on what feels good to you, and it doesn’t have to conform to recommendations every time
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Fox manual recommends 15-25%
@Vikturus2k6
@Vikturus2k6 Год назад
Causal rider. Try to get out each weekend but doesn’t always happen. I’m 38, I rode on recon silvers for a few years. I went fox 36’s and wow. It was worth it for me and my hands and elbows. 👍🏼 it’s subjective to a point sure. If you can afford it. Why not?
@robinrai4973
@robinrai4973 2 года назад
Mid range is good enough for all of us, let's leave the high end for the racers and save our wallets 😅
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
I didn't feel like the marzocchi was enough 😔
@tristanarthur9691
@tristanarthur9691 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga toss a grip2 in the Z1. If it’s good enough for pro riders… surly it’s good enough for everyone else.
@flotto7045
@flotto7045 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga Not enough for what though?
@Jhaksun
@Jhaksun 2 года назад
@@flotto7045 3 ft drops on XC trails
@kenshomi2
@kenshomi2 Год назад
Another great video - I have a Mzi Z2 that came on my Giant trance looking for a step function improvement? I’ve already upgraded my wheels to carbon and xt hardware. I am a XC trail rider here in Tx.
@buckroger6456
@buckroger6456 Год назад
Great video. Nice to see you mention the volume spacers since many people tend to forget that part of the tuning. I agree with the price point, since like you said, it comes down to what you want to spend and what you need the fork to do. I will say for most people a cheaper fork is the way to go since they want more of a preset and go fork.
@core-i7413
@core-i7413 2 года назад
In my opinion, you don't need super expensive forks. There are forks like RockShox Reba RL or RockShox Judy Gold RL which feel very nice and if you're not a world class rider it'll feel the same as a Fox 34.
@Silent_Gold74
@Silent_Gold74 Год назад
Sorry.....not true at all..
@PeterCPRail8748
@PeterCPRail8748 2 года назад
What most don't realize is, most forks from all mtb fork brands are actually made in the same handful of factories. Like Giant bikes making frames for alot of different mid tear to high-end brands. Suntour makes close to half if not 60% of all MTB forks on the market from various brands. The remaining 40% in other chinese mass bike component factories. Your just paying for the name, in house development of dampners. The stanchions and fork bodies are basically almost identical in material used other then design and stanchion coatings.
@matteojay6052
@matteojay6052 2 года назад
True
@mrupholsteryman
@mrupholsteryman 2 года назад
So which factory makes the best quality product? This is what I'm trying to do.
@simonroels6708
@simonroels6708 2 года назад
Hey just wanted to let you know i really enjoy the content you make! It's amazing to see this channel grow and grow and the way you evolve as a creator. All the best!
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 2 года назад
Keep in mind Fox has more than usable adjustment, Öhlins probably does not do that, thus less clicks. you can lock out the fox fork with the compression adjustments, rebound adjustment is the same you can make it dive or be a pogo stick. What matters is having an usable adjustment range.
@obsidian3701
@obsidian3701 Год назад
When these forks cost more than your whole bike 👁️👄👁️
@GokkunGuru
@GokkunGuru 2 года назад
Here I am using a Rockshox SID SL Ultimate 100mm fork!
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
XC is cool man!
@Guovssohas
@Guovssohas Год назад
For a normal average rider you really don't need a 1k+ fork. I'm an average guy who just ride around our local trails to stay in shape, that's all, and i'm perfectly fine with my 140mm Revelation. I recently upgraded from a 120mm Recon and the Revelation was the maximum i could justify purchasing for my level. 1k is just too much for my riding.
@TreyOutdoors1
@TreyOutdoors1 2 года назад
Another awesome video thanks for putting in the hard work so that we can learn more everyday day
@krunkikrofna
@krunkikrofna 2 года назад
I think the reason they dont let you adjust the top of your travel is to avoid hard bottom outs because you made it too soft and therefore increasing the forks life a bit. But ohlins knows their stuff, they have the best suspension for motorcycles and amazing coilovers for cars
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Pretty smart I'd say haha. I just wish their forks had the look of their off-road stuff
@krunkikrofna
@krunkikrofna 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga yea that gold looks amazing and i think it would go well with your blue frame and your gold accents
@snow3270
@snow3270 2 года назад
Bought this Öhlins fork 2 months ago and after 100km it was damaged. The Fork slumped from 14cm to only 1cm and i couldn't pull it back. The only way to release was to let the hole bike hanging around a while in the air. I sent it to back to the dealer, totally frustrated and bought the new 2023 Rock Shox Pike ultimate. And this fork is really great in performance and reliability ✌️
@georgeoliver8300
@georgeoliver8300 2 года назад
I found the ohlins rear coil shock made a big difference the bike felt amazing .Could be something to try
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
I wish I could use that! Yeti designed the rear shock clearance so small that no coils will fit
@SteveKimbo
@SteveKimbo Год назад
I had the option of ordering my new bike with Ohlins and I was very tempted. However everything I read was a bit 'meh' and the guy I know with Ohlins seems to be struggling to get it how he wants it. I'm sticking with my Fox Factory - an X2 and a 36. I know how to set them up to my liking and at the end of the day you can't beat Kashima 😂 Great video though, I've really enjoyed discovering your channel!
@cdubs7364
@cdubs7364 2 года назад
The quality of you vids is 👌
@fpsgenerator
@fpsgenerator 2 года назад
Re-valving Fox could make a huge difference in how it feels. Won't affect the chassis stiffness though, but still worth a shot
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Sounds expensive! I didn't know you could do that with Fox forks
@anttiharing
@anttiharing 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga If you take the damper out by yourself the re-valving won't cost more than 50$
@klendatas1
@klendatas1 2 года назад
#Evans MTB Saga Gmbn had a video about fork refurbishment and same shop does individually tuned dampers to your own weight and ride style. I bet there are same shops at your side of the world. Amazing content!
@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896
@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896 4 месяца назад
$$ are in the shim stacks and valve design, adjustments normally just bybass the shimstack. Mountain bike forks do a great job of covering a wide viarity of riders tho.
@mr.e0311
@mr.e0311 Год назад
The real winner here is that 1980s tv show music used when customizing the forks!!!
@GhislainLeduc
@GhislainLeduc 6 месяцев назад
You're a hell of a mechanic, good job! Your videos are fun to watch!
@parkercoyne7211
@parkercoyne7211 2 года назад
I have 2 Öhlins RXF36 M.2’s on my Rocky Mountain and on my Vitus Hardtail and absolutely love the adjustability!
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Man that's a hardcore Vitus!
@moo_8736
@moo_8736 2 года назад
The fork looks super cool on the bike
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
I like it too!!
@GD-gj6mn
@GD-gj6mn 2 года назад
We used to have rigid forks and high seats and mountain biking was still fun.
@sulaimankhan1610
@sulaimankhan1610 2 года назад
Evan getting a new fork and not having to lace up a wheel is not normal.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
I know right! 🤣😂
@michaelmutambo1253
@michaelmutambo1253 Год назад
Thanks for the amazing explanation am learning from your videos
@ethanbuehlig
@ethanbuehlig 2 года назад
I have a Ohlins RXF 36 Coil fork and it’s Amazing
@pawel102
@pawel102 2 года назад
if you use lsr it also affects hsr. slow return is about 1/3 of the deflection, not 2/3. btw i am a licensed ohlins brand service technician.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Well since you're a licensed Ohlins technician, maybe you should be a little nicer instead of ridiculing someone. You're giving the brand a bad name
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
What's your name so I can file a complaint with Ohlins?
@pawel102
@pawel102 2 года назад
you're doing bad ad to ohlins, not me. you make rewiev with something that you have no idea, and viewers believe what you say, the come to the shop and start a debate with the service technician that they know better because they saw it on RU-vid. you are a youtuber and I can express my opinion even more if it is true
@MY1PATH
@MY1PATH Год назад
Now go the other way and try a less expensive fork... DVO. In addition to air chamber volume there is also an external adjuster for the negative travel spring. This allows you to dial in how much (or little) plushness you want from your initial travel. All other settings are similar to the Ohlins fork. I am liking my DVO Fork better than my Fox TALAS. I have not yet compared it to a Float.
@nofacemtb9481
@nofacemtb9481 2 года назад
PUSH Industries for your shock. You can't get any better than that!
@TheTommaso97
@TheTommaso97 Год назад
you can get an EXT
@kentnilsson9757
@kentnilsson9757 Месяц назад
👍True, the Öhlin set up from the factory and the recommended air pressure, doesn't feel right😊. The Öhlin RXF36, that I have 3 pc 170mm of, has 2 air Chambers that must be set up properly and is the real diffrent between this forks. I love the Fox factory, it's feel more nice direct from the box😅
@jaystarr6571
@jaystarr6571 2 года назад
7:32 That cactus was like: Dude. *DUDE!!!*
@GolfMotionAcademy
@GolfMotionAcademy 4 месяца назад
I did understand the fork adjustment was for. Could you make a video on what you were talking about? Details
@breme87
@breme87 10 месяцев назад
This fork costs more than a pretty nice hardtail 😭😭
@bobvelting379
@bobvelting379 2 года назад
I did think that, but that is because I can feel my old RockShox recon tk silver with QR flex
@SalvationsHERE
@SalvationsHERE 2 года назад
I prefer my Yari over my Fox 36 Grip 2 kashima. The Yari is much more plush, eats up the little bumps and feels much more refined than my 36. The 36 was rough and wasn't sensitive to small bumps and chatter.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Oh man I had the opposite experience on a Fox 36 grip2 on a rental bike. Literally so plush and sensitive on the small bumps
@Silent_Gold74
@Silent_Gold74 Год назад
Adjustment issue
@derekcraig3617
@derekcraig3617 2 месяца назад
you gotta spend more time setting up the ohlins with air pressure. it's actually way more adjustable than the fox. the fox dials don't really do a whole lot in reality
@nasonguy
@nasonguy 2 года назад
Fellow desert rider, nothing gets you quite so spooked as almost smashing into a cholla.
@lucasbhogal3790
@lucasbhogal3790 2 года назад
I think the most adjustment in a fork or rear shock doesnt come from the damper, but the ability to affect the spring curve in general, for example by using Tokens, or 2 positive air chambers, an expandable negative air chamber or completely independant adjustible air chamber. only if these things are setup right, high adjustible damping brings you into paradise of suspension setup and feel
@rrolleman4879
@rrolleman4879 2 года назад
And for the most part, don't adjust to 30% sag. That actually makes your fork more harsh since you'll be further in your travel before it starts to compress. Most forks work best with 15-20% sag.
@okbetgangnation
@okbetgangnation Год назад
I reckon the ohlins match so well with the hubs and callipers
@justinmiguelb.montano260
@justinmiguelb.montano260 2 года назад
Your suspension is more expensive than my whole MTB😭
@can_with_beans
@can_with_beans Год назад
Me about to send that drop on my broken, non functional, Canadian Tire MTB from 6 years ago. (The bottom bracket is so fucked me and the bois had to press fit a new one, the rear pivot has a 1 inch wobble, and the rear shock doesn't actuate so ot's basically a hard tail)
@Weglobaltech
@Weglobaltech 6 месяцев назад
I jave the Fox fork in my regular bike as well as in my e-bike. I am thinking of trying the Öhlins on my ebike Sworks Turbo SL since it rides fast and the shock is very harsh in rock terrain. In South Florida there are no mountains however the rides are very rocky or have too many roots. At the end of 1 hour rides, I feel pain in my entire arms as wells as numb hands. It rides like a 1945 Jeep. I have tried all possible settings.
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. 2 месяца назад
Wouldn't adding a volume spacer make the fork more harsh? Generally a larger air volume means a more plush suspension but with a higher chance of bottoming out whereas a smaller air volume will be less plush with less chance of bottoming out.
@hed1fsu
@hed1fsu 7 месяцев назад
Been riding mtb for 20+ yrs.. and have never set sag for my own shocks. Just whatever feels "right".. whatever that means haha.
@jzdyrko
@jzdyrko 2 года назад
My only thought was.....I don't remove my brake levers when I swap my forks. I do like all my $1000+ forks though....current bikes running Factory Fox 38/36 Grip2, 2 Trust Shouts, and a 23' RS Zeb Ultimate....
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Oh nice, new RS! My favorite fork to date was a Fox 36 Grip 2 with black stanchions on a rental bike. I hope to have a bike line-up like yours sometime!
@jzdyrko
@jzdyrko 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga Here's the lineup18' Orbea Rallon, Transition Spur-duro (36 140 G2/Float X), Trek Rail 7, Orbea Rise H-custom, and trying to decide on building a Deviate Claymore or New Rallon.
@kyleslater5245
@kyleslater5245 2 года назад
I dunno I’ve had such good luck with fox and their budget brand. I’d have a hard time justifying that price of change. I’d sooner just replace the damper in the fox. I’m with you on them being more about what works for you. I like the fox feel even if it’s the budget version with basic adjustment only. Can’t seem to tune my lyrik half as well.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Haha it's so funny how feel varies from one to the other. I wish I could articulate or even show "feel" on camera 🤣
@protivogaz6023
@protivogaz6023 2 года назад
The bike went from 4 to 5 looks with the Öhlins.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
There we go that's some improvement!
@dukeofmtb
@dukeofmtb Год назад
D@mn, dude! That's some awesome editing. Must have been a pain in the butt, but the result is 👌.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga Год назад
Haha I did it when I had some free time off of work on paternity leave. Way overkill and it didn't really help the views 💀
@dukeofmtb
@dukeofmtb Год назад
@Evans MTB Saga lol. Sounds about right. I feel ya man.
@tomasr963
@tomasr963 2 года назад
Are you the guy in the Reclaiming the Armrest plane video? LOL
@olieko
@olieko 2 года назад
One of my biggest deciding points would be serviceability, no use having a $2000 fork that you cant service when it breaks.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Is it hard to get parts for it?
@olieko
@olieko 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga Unfortunately I have no idea, that's what you will have to do research on by yourself. Certain parts can be hard to obtain and sometimes the manufacturer will make it near impossible for a consumer to service products.
@tdoutdoors4545
@tdoutdoors4545 2 года назад
Just throwing it out there, a fox 40 in Canada is $1800!!! That’s insane
@franko5964
@franko5964 2 года назад
Evans MTB Saga is basicaly Donut Media for MTB-s, but in a food way
@madisoncarter3970
@madisoncarter3970 Год назад
the rxf m.2 was a game changer for me
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga Год назад
What size stanchion did you go with? I'm using a bike with a 36 now, so I consider getting the rxf36
@madisoncarter3970
@madisoncarter3970 Год назад
@@EvansMTBSaga do it man its great. 38 cus i am riding an ebike. one other great thing about the ohlins that i can attest to is that is is absolutely more rigid off the top but more put together deeper in the travel than my previous fox factory 38 with a grip 2. i love being able to push into corners with all of the bikes weight and knowing exactly how its gonna react where the fox i for some reason didnt have the same confidence
@asimplebiker04
@asimplebiker04 11 месяцев назад
About the features, you’re right, fox has a lot more adjustments than öhlins, but you didn’t mentioned the most important technology ölins has: the double air chamber with positive and negative air adjustments…this features permits you to come to a lot more adjustment and settings than a single air chamber…btw i have tried both the fox40 and ohlins dh38 and simply the feelings are different, two completely different forks, that can not be compared (it’s just about your preferences)
@asimplebiker04
@asimplebiker04 11 месяцев назад
I mean, the two brands can’t be compared because uses two different technologies
@vmacthepackgod9435
@vmacthepackgod9435 2 года назад
Ok i cant argue the crooked decals that is bush league at best
@MrCrazeDawg
@MrCrazeDawg 2 года назад
And here I am with my Lyrik Select+ :')
@SekritKomrade
@SekritKomrade 2 года назад
The answer is No. It will always be no. Why? Because you can buy the last gen fork used for 1/4 the price, put a brand new service kit through it, and bam. you just saved 700$ . Also, You are going to miss Arizona. Yes bentonville is great to ride, but youre in a 50m pocket and there isnt anything else good for hundreds of miles. From phoenix, you have Fins, north, south, east, west, etc trails. I moved to NE oklahoma and I really hate the riding out here compared to the desert mountain trails. NOT to mention, you will get rained out of being able to ride probably about 35% of the days you have off.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
You should look at Trailforks for Bentonville and surrounding areas. There's at least 10 different trail systems and a dedicated bike park within 100 miles, if not more. I only go to fins to film, it's rather boring. I don't even find South Mountain to be fun anymore. It's not fun to climb an hour straight to ride decent downhills
@SekritKomrade
@SekritKomrade 2 года назад
I hear ya, and I have checked out the systems. I am just used to Long, huge descents from northern Az/sedona/etc..its hard to replace that feeling when the longest trails around the B area are about 10min run.
@ehh1353
@ehh1353 2 года назад
1300$ could probably get you a fairly good bike from big brands sheeesh
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Maybe a low-mid tier hard tail. Lower tier full suspensions are a few hundred more
@bikeislife8405
@bikeislife8405 2 года назад
Holy s#it Evan, those animations are on POINT..😳
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Thanks dude! Took a long time to do haha
@bikeislife8405
@bikeislife8405 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga quality content has a price! Heads up, Las Vegas is opening up a lift access bike park this September, let's shred!
@sjokkomann8126
@sjokkomann8126 2 года назад
If I was you I had upgraded to 36mm stanchion👌
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
I know I knocked the Fox 34, but I rode a Fox 36 grip2 on a rental recently and it was the best fork I've ever used. It might be overkill for this yeti though 😔
@GF-cb8rr
@GF-cb8rr 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga total overkill for sb115
@fluffy1973
@fluffy1973 Год назад
that trail is gorgeous tho
@TheVTRainMan
@TheVTRainMan 2 года назад
If I keep throwing more and more money at my bike, I'll become a better rider? Nope!
@brianpham2584
@brianpham2584 2 года назад
Yep. It's just tools to help out with more trail features.
@TheVTRainMan
@TheVTRainMan 2 года назад
@@brianpham2584 I've never gotten to a feature and thought, "If only i had a better suspension... I would send this..." Either I can or I can not. My suspension is never my limitation. I am.
@brianpham2584
@brianpham2584 2 года назад
@@TheVTRainMan I didn't mean it that way, and you are right about it all being about the rider. And no, more adjustments does not mean better, it just means more user tuneability by clickers with how you want the bike/suspension to react to certain stuff. That can be done with lower end stuff too, with the difference being it's all internal.
@Cosmos.Kiyopon
@Cosmos.Kiyopon 2 года назад
Evan trying to find the most good forks while me already comfortable of my 80mm stock air fork😭
@ClassicalPianoPL
@ClassicalPianoPL Год назад
I love ohlins forks theyre the best of all ❤
@turntabillist
@turntabillist 2 года назад
dialing in perfect suspension between front and rear is a black art! WTF? I just get out on the dang trail and trust that the gods or the last person who looked at my suspension knew what they were doing...
@ShoneDaddy
@ShoneDaddy Год назад
You should know that you have to break a fork in as well before it starts to feel good
@ryansteiger6960
@ryansteiger6960 2 года назад
Great video as always. Cheers Evan. Why do you set up your fork to 30 percent sag? Is that recommended by ohlins? The rockshox manual nowadays says to ingore sag completely...
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Ohlins and yeti recommend 30%
@Digital_Gangster
@Digital_Gangster 2 года назад
I'm starting to think Chad has hijacked the channel
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Just for a season. The yeti videos will be coming to an end after the rear shock
@caseys_cozy_garage
@caseys_cozy_garage 2 года назад
I was already subscribed .... And I got a nice fork this week.... Dang he was right
@sebastianduv7901
@sebastianduv7901 Год назад
All i got to say im happy with my 80mm thats broken and leaks air and i need to pump it up twice a week
@jacob.rausch
@jacob.rausch 2 года назад
1: You're taking away points for "less adjustability" but it's not any different in the extremes, it's just a more gradual change for the fox. And i know you're 100% BS if you say you can tell the difference between one click on the fox fork 2: yeah the best part of öhlins is the adjustability. You can make if feel literally however you want. I got öhlins and it's so much better than any other suspension I've tried
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
That is a good point now that you put it that way!
@LukeRaymondMTB
@LukeRaymondMTB Год назад
If you get a fit4 damper, they have the same adjustability.
@marcgallant5270
@marcgallant5270 2 года назад
Anyone over 200 lbs should be riding a Manitou Mezzer Pro, incredible mid stroke support and infinitely tuneable. Often on sale for $500 on chainreactioncycles pretty good for a $1000+ fork
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Good recommendation! I'm not quite 200lbs 🤣
@marcgallant5270
@marcgallant5270 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga you should really give it a try, the triple air chamber is a nice touch! I know manitou went through a rough patch in the early 2000's but the newer stuff is rock solid
@frankapple4130
@frankapple4130 2 года назад
Mezzer and Durolux are both amazing
@mattiasvanoverbeke1831
@mattiasvanoverbeke1831 2 года назад
Try changing the damper to an öhlins one, would make the bike a lot nicer in my opinion
@ToddNZMTB
@ToddNZMTB 2 года назад
05:17 that's a brilliant idea for a stem cap, k-edge? Bike computer mount
@ToddNZMTB
@ToddNZMTB 2 года назад
It appears to be this - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mMcJaMWDEoU.html 👍🏻
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Yeah I've been liking it!
@ToddNZMTB
@ToddNZMTB 2 года назад
@@EvansMTBSaga my only concern would be if you bashed the thing when crashing would it break the plastic of the bike computer? Typically they are held on with rubbery straps 🤔
@thephoenixcycle8854
@thephoenixcycle8854 2 года назад
I have heard that Ohlins makes stuff for racers and people who ride full tilt all the time not for Joe Hacks like me who putz along the trails
@heathschuttmtb
@heathschuttmtb 2 года назад
me: waiting for a ohlins rear shock
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Heck yeah!
@munkycox
@munkycox 2 года назад
I've never heard anyone complain that a fork was too plush. Just add more air if that's the case.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
I've heard that from multiple people about the Fox fork
@andrewsteavpack9079
@andrewsteavpack9079 2 года назад
Sounds dumb but the font and graphic on the Ohlins fork definitely looks a lot cheaper as well, looks way more generic and if I saw both without knowing anything about bikes or the product that would lead me to assume it is a less high end product. I think RockShox Super Ultimate Deluxe suspension products with the gloss paint lowers and crown with the chrome or black decals look the most high end from a branding perspective, also agree on the gold sanchions on the Moto and Auto suspension looked phenomenal even compared to Fox. Also nice job avoiding the cactus, those Jumping Cactus are probably the worst I had two friends need to go to urgent care to get needles removed from those and they couldn't even get all of them out because they were so fine.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
Haha so true! Thanks for the comment. I've been dying to get some high end Rockshox forks! Future build hopefully.
@calescorringe5866
@calescorringe5866 Год назад
That suspension is worth way more then my 183 dollar kona lanai
@harhar4243
@harhar4243 2 года назад
great video evan!
@Shauny808
@Shauny808 2 года назад
Why did you need to take everything off the bars? Couldn’t just remove stem from steerer with everything attached???
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
I like to do it that way. Filming for hours with the bars hanging there, I don't like stressing the cables like that
@vijayalakshmiadvocate1213
@vijayalakshmiadvocate1213 2 года назад
Hi pls review a cheapest coil fork in the world
@Andy-co6pn
@Andy-co6pn 2 года назад
If you arent sure about a fork , I'd suggest using a stack of spacers above the stem and not cutting the steerer just in case you don't like it and want to sell it on.
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
True haha I forgot about that. I'd say it's a big longer cuz the Slack-R Kit needs an extra 20mm
@FooNox
@FooNox 10 месяцев назад
Nice Slack-R kit! you should do a video on it
@LackingLoam
@LackingLoam 2 года назад
Evan I know u just spent a poop ton on the ohlins but please test out formula suspension forks. They look really cool with the most adjustment
@carrotman2871
@carrotman2871 2 года назад
Could you do a similar video but with the 2023 rockshox pikes?
@EvansMTBSaga
@EvansMTBSaga 2 года назад
I will on a 2023 Rockshox but not a Pike
@mrgecko9282
@mrgecko9282 2 года назад
Damn that fork is the same price as my giant talon 1 2022
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