Slack is fine for *very enthusiastic* newbie (last version I used was 10). But imho lack of tools like sbo by default is weird definition "Unix-like". FreeBSD have ports (they are briliant) and therefore is less "Unix-like"? But yes, very nice distro. :)
Fedora is based on Red Hat, though. The main parts of the Linux family tree seems to be: Debian -> Ubuntu -> Mint Slackware -> SUSE -> OpenSUSE RedHat -> Fedora | - - - - - - -> CentOS Gentoo -> ChromeOS Arch -> Manjaro And of course Android. All of the parent distros are still active, but they tend to be for more advanced use. I feel like it should be: New users: Ubuntu, Mint, Manjaro Professionals: RedHat, CentOS, OpenSUSE Enthusiasts: Fedora, Gentoo Server hosts: Debian, Ubuntu Server, Fedora Server, OpenSUSE
@@Falcrist Which distro dou you think is better for developers/programmers? I've used Ubuntu/Xubuntu and was good. But i'm trying to find if there is another better distro( im trying with openSuse, and maybe an arch based distro as ArcoLinux).
@@redsocks999 Red Hat was founded in 1993. It's 10 years older than Fedora... Red Hat Linux was released in 1995. Red Hat Enterprise Linux came out in 2000. Fedora Linux was launched in 2003. Just because Fedora is now used as the testbed for Red Hat's products doesn't mean RHEL is based on it.
your definition of the big 7 is completely correct, especially when you mentioned that indeed Ubuntu, as being a very popular distro, is based upon Debian. However, a little remark Slackware is only 2 months (even nearly 2 months) older than Debian ... So Slackware can be called the Grandfather and Debian the Grandmother of (mostly) all Distro, not having taken into account de independent developed distros.
Manjaro + Timeshift + Grub Btrfs and you've got yourself unbreakable linux with rollbacks to a previous version if you break something in 20-90s depending on your computer startup speed and a package manager that will auto update and have basically everything you may need. Systemd Manager to manage your startup services with a GUI. If something doesn't start or start on boot after you install check Systemd Manager and enable or enable on startup.
But for users who want mainstream support or really care about learning Linux, both Elementary and Solus are poor choices. Pick a distro that works and feels like Linux with one of the major software repositories.
My Seven Mother Distros, in order of Seniority: 1. Slackware --vital in the development of early SUSE, parent of Porteus, Salix, Vector. 2. Red Hat --parent of Fedora and the ones that use RPM: RHEL, CentOS, Clerar, Tizen, Rocky, etc. 3. Debian --What Red Hat is to servers, Debian has been to the desktop. Parent of Knoppix, AntiX, MX, Kali, and the plethora of Ubuntus/derivatives. * Those three owe a debt to the first big distro, Softlanding. 4. Jurix --parent of modern SUSEs and the NAS-focused distros like EasyNAS and Rockstor. 5. Enoch --parent of Gentoo and its descendants like ChromiumOS; also parent of Ututo and other "fully libre" distros. 6. Arch --daddy of Manjaro, Hyperbola, Parabola, Artix, etc. 7. The Puppies --best alternative for old hardware you want to use as desktop, not servers. A bunch of them (Wary, Racy, Slacko, Quirky, Lupu, MacPup and TeenPup), plus Simplicity and Sage.
@NM Trindle Do you think Arch is that hard? The built-in installer makes it a breeze. Nearly no harder than Windows 9x installs were. There are also graphical installers now that make it even easier.
My first linux distro is Arch. Until today, arch is my first choice distro because of its simplicity. The base and base-devel group will have everything you need and you can build your preferred system from there
For new Linux users I recommend Mint. Fedora on the other hand is great if your friend has a computer not designed for LInux, mainly those with Nvidia cards. edit: Fedora has had near weapons grade stability in my short time with it*
Lets face it we don't want our grandparents using computers in general because if you known how to open up RU-vid in Chrome you're officially the "go to expert" for any and all computer problems they have regardless if they paid for professional tech support when they bought their computer.
It's basically rolling release but with an LTS kernel, arch also has an LTS kernel option btw. But the great thing about manjaro is that unlike arch, shit doesn't just break every now and then. Also why not let your grandma run manjaro? As long as you do the initial setup everything is fine, she probably only uses the web browser anyways. It's to the point where you don't even need to do any tweaking she can use out of the box manjaro. Your mother on the other hand....
@@DistroTube speaking of grandmother, what is best distro for grandmother? Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu or maybe Linux Mint or maybe Elementary OS or maybe there is something better?
I love Fedora specially since they added their upgrade tool (2 year support for each version, meaning that i can go with every other version) also they're pretty light on the downstream, which i've been able to apply stuff from the arch wiki without trouble.
during debugging I tried everything, happened to be on xfce when I discovered the issue; I kind of dig it but it takes alot of window space away from you. Still the inimize everything and four desktop thing is cool.
@@DellInspiron- I have just to say something here, the "Four-Desktop" thing is called Workspaces. Microsoft is trying to steal this innovation so we have to let people know the truth. Please use the term "Workspace" from now on, if possible.
Nice video!! I use Debian LXDE and Linux Mint on my main computer. Right now I am using the excellent archmerge distro on an external drive and of course the totally independent distro xenialpup from my flash drive 😀.
Oh dude, stability has nothing to do with the age of the software. Fedora might be cutting edge but I've barely had any issues with it. Ubuntu, on the other hand, has always been buggy as fuck - especially at release dates.
Yea...I wouldn't run Ubuntu other than the LTS. The interim releases do seem to lack some quality control. And the LTS's are not updated immediately to the next version. The updater tool waits until the first point release to upgrade to the next LTS.
DistroTube It's not just that. The 16.04 LTS had dysfunctional Fn (laptop) keys and the Fn+sound buttons didn't work. I had to manually add a file. It took Canonical at least a month to fix this. This is just one issue but there are many others like the constant crash messages and on and on. I haven't had any issues with Fedora even at release days and if there are issues, they are resolved very quickly - the devs don't take a month or two to do it. Such bugs are the reason Mint was created, apart from the Unity desktop. The Mint team has been fixing Canonical's bugs forever. Ubuntu may still be the most popular but it's definitely not the easiest and most refined experience Linux can offer. Solus is light years ahead in terms of hardware support, speed, user-friendliness and community support. I'm not an elitist cunt, just a realist.
@@terranrepublican5522 omg, I'm glad people understand that! I even think Ubuntu scared plenty of potential users from switching to Linux. Ubuntu markets itself as the user-friendly distro but it's far from that. In fact, it's one of the most bug-ridden distros I've ever used. So the new users install Ubuntu and think - 'If this is the most user-friendly Linux, I don't want to touch Linux at all!'.
I'm never sure whether, when people mention stability, they mean it is buggy or not or how long you go between updates. Archlinux I find very stable of the first kind, but not of the second as not a week goes by that major elements are not totally updated.
Jumped into Linux in '96 with Slackware. It came with a server book. Man what a learning curve! Had to tweak X by hand; SCSI drives were not natively recognized; had to write your own dial-up scripts, had to compile your own kernel or modules because hardware was flaky... Looking back on it, there's a lot that I've forgotten because I don't have to do those things anymore.
Debian 2.1 in 1999 was literally impossible to install without background knowledge. The guidebook actually gave you the WRONG decisions, and it was near-impossible to wing it because the questions asked were ridiculous and were asked multiple times.
Slackware is my favorite due to the fact it really teaches you to learn how to administrate your system properly. I know a lot of people hate dealing with Bash and shell scripts, but if you can learn properly scripting, you can use any distribution. You can learn Debian and learn every distribution based on Debian. You can learn Fedora and learn anything based on Red Hat and maybe even SUSE. But if you learn Slackware you kinda learn everything.
Concise presentation. well done. Over the last 20 years I always had a big fail with Fedora...different machines ...different levels of experience...Cheers and Peace to you.
20yrs!! Fedora project was release in the very first quarter of November 2003, from 24 to till now Fedora is one great stable cutting edge distro :) +neil neilypops
Hardware is kinda the underlying discrepancy here. Ubuntu has been a horrid experience on most of my machines, basically its never ran well on anything I've tried. But Fedora has been stable so far.
I dont consider myself an advanced user or linux enthousiast, just a regular pc enthousiast that enjoys a linux envirronment more for development, productivity, etc.., But i really love antergos, all the positive stuff from arch, but no time consuming installation
I started with Red Hat, then worked on CentOS for some time. Enjoyed both. Didnt continually used them. Some years later, someone pointed me to Ubuntu, I tried it and it never clicked for me. As of now, I am still using RHEL as a workstation. I find it to be one of the most stable distro out there.
12 years ago, when I was not just a new linux user, but a new pc user I ran Windows for about 6 months before it broke. After I learned that windows wasn't free I discovered linux and tried several distros like ubuntu, slackware, fedora, pclinuxos, puppy, etc. I've never found Ubuntu that user-friendly (at least to a user with no internet connection) and after a few days after trying it I switched to suse (which came with a lot of packages on the installation dvd and made my early computer life veeery easy) and kept using it to this day. Now I have several machines in my room that run pretty much only linux distros (fedora on my primary laptop, debian and arch on the older laptops that I use in class, Leap alongside netbsd on my main pc and centos on my small server).
I'd choose Fedora every time, it feels like more of a utility than a toy. I'm less motivated to screw with stuff so I can just use my computer as a computer.
Ubuntu rules!!!!!! Enjoying cosmic cuttlefish for a week now, coming from windows xp to windows 10, windows have lost me and Linux has stolen my heart.....
I gotta say, I'm using fedora right now to watch this video, and my god is it smooth, stable and usable. Even games seem to run better on this distro (Almost out of the box after installing your video drivers).
@@drishalballaney6590 I think what considered as big is that many distros are based on them. I don't think Alpine has that many derivatives compared to those on the list.
I know this is not related in this video but I have not seen a video where you try "SPECTRWM" as a window manager. I recommend it it is great for programmers. I tried all of them and this is my favorite.
Good overview! Thanks for the vids. Enjoying them. . I jumped in with building a quad boot ... Not a typical noob! :) Manjaro, openSUSE (Tumbleweed lol) and Ubuntu were the primaries. (I forget now what the fourth was. But no complaints with any of them.) And/but, I agree; Ubuntu is a bit friendlier. One thing I like about Manjaro (Arch based) is the ability to change kernels easily. Again... not the target for your video. The newcomer to Linux is unlikely to want that option. I did because of some interesting hardware, and wanting to change kernels because of it. Oh... and doing a multiboot? Some interesting challenges, sometimes losing my initial installation when I added a later one. Multiboot is not, I would suggest, for someone looking to get their feet wet. I'd recommend swapping out your boot drive and doing a clean install. That way you can always go back to your original drive with your Partitions, OS, and programs unmodified/undamaged.
I agree with you 100%. However, my grandmother and similar such users would be perfectly content with a well built "Chromebase" All-in-One setup, or a well built Chromebook. Meaning, not those el cheapo plastic HP Chromebooks, but the far more expensive Samsung ones. My wife and teenage kid will never use Linux, but they love their $ 320 ACER Chromebook 15. I am just glad that I broke them from Microsoft.
In my list : All of these are main and independent distros 1. Slackware 2. Gentoo 3. Fedora o/h RHEL 4. Arch 5. OpenSUSE o/h SUSE 6. Debian 7. Mandriva now Open Mandriva 8. Solus 9. Void 10. Puppy or SliTaz * LFS is the masterrace Popular w/ GUI+DE(default) 1. Mehnt Customized Gnome aka CinnamonDE (Based on Unbuntu+Debian) 2. Unbuntu Customized Gnome (Based on Debian) 3. Solus Customized Gnome aka BudgieDE but soon will be on Qt (Independent) 4. Manharo KDE (Based on Arch) 5. Pep LXDE+XFCE4panel (Based on Unbuntu+Lubuntu) 6. Deepin customized Gnome aka DeepinDE (Based on Debian, before it was based on Unbuntu) 7. Elementary my dear Watson, customized Gnome+Vala aka PantheonDE (Based on Unbuntu) ** Unbuntu MATE/m8 Customized Gnome aka MATE DE (Based on Unbuntu) *** Meh too much YAUD(Yet Another Unbuntu Distro) PS : Fedora is pretty stable from 24 to till now but I don't recommended it to newbies but good for average/advanced user. Fedora Rawhide is same as vanilla Arch.
Nutyx has been recommended to me a couple of times. I need to look at it soon. And reviewing LFS....not sure that many people would find such a project that interesting. Might take me two weeks to install the thing. And then maybe 20 viewers would be interested in the video. LOL.
thnx for the vid i'm playing around these days with linux on a VM i'm a windows user, i will start a big learning curve project for linux maybe i will switch later after finishing my learning curve project for linux, and i downloaded the big ones starting with mint xfce desktop , so thnx for mentioning the big 7 they almost match what i got with 99% hit from u
The shirt I am wearing was a one-off purchase. But I have been checking out some custom shirt vendors. When I find one I feel offers great quality versus the price, I will start offering some shirts for sale. Not just the channel logo but cool Linux-y printed shirts as well. Will keep you posted.
i started to use linux in january 2019 and i started with mint. more than a year ago i started with manjaro and i don't see any problem. it's maybe even easier because you can find all the installations in GUI. hardly had to use the terminal. no brake so far. some minor issues occurred from time to time but nothing to write home about. usually they get fixed within a couple of days.
To me, these are the best distros for newbies (especially coming from Windows): Linux Lite, Zorin, Chalet, Mint, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Pinguy, Robolinux, Elementary, Deepin, etc.
I love how hardcore Linux enthusiasts talk about Mint's "bloat." I mean, the whole thing can fit in 32GB of storage and run on 2GB of RAM, right? That's hardly "bloat" from the perspective of a new user, or someone used to MacOS or Windows. Not a dig, just saying, the concern is a bit amusing.
If someone was to ask me about switching to linux, First thing I would do if find out thier previous OS.. If they're like me and from Windows 7 or older, I would say Linux Mint cinnamon... Ubuntu based, Cinnamon DE to help the transition.. all around GREAT OS.... I use that on my laptop, and Manjaro Cinnamon on my Desktop..
Hey Distrotube, I have a challenge for you. There's a distro listed on archiveos.org called EvilEntity that uses a modified build of Enlightenment 3 or something (I forgot to mention that this is a VERY old distribution, the final release being 2002). EvilEntity is, apparently, a Slackware-based distribution designed for multimedia and web browsing, although you would never believe that if you looked at the screenshots and saw the wickedly over-the-top enlightenment build. I want you to try and install this distribution on a Virtual Machine. Good Luck!
New to Linux? Nvidia card = Pop!_Os (based off Ubuntu which is based off Debian). Optimized Gnome. Works out the box. You can change DE via terminal, but I'm not sure how that will interfere with system76 power and graphics management. Any other graphics card = Manjaro (based off Arch). Play around with whatever DE you want. Note that you should be careful while updating when AUR is enabled - i usually only enable it for a short time to find a specific package, then disable it.
I am planning to switch from Windows to Linux and this video was really helpful. For my first linux distro I am thinking about Pepermint or Linux lite. If anyone have any other suggestion please tell me.
Hi, out of curiosjty, what do you hope to gain by switching? I've heard linux is faster for some things, but it seems too arcane for me. Still, I'm interested in trying it out.
I had try From Red-Hat in 1997 to Fedora , Debian , Ubuntu , OpenSUSE and Now Arch , Manjaro , Garuda (both Arch Based) , for new user i will agree that OpenSUSE i one of the best thanks to Yast and also Manjaro thanks to Pacman (and Pa-Mac as GUI) also Debian is the King of the Branch , Ubuntu is "closed" or for better term "restrictive" (thanks to Canonical) in a comparison to Debian but for someone coming from windows without extra knowledge would suffice at least...
I agree very much. I am comfortable with vanilla debian as well as arch but I have always installed ubuntu on any other friends machine. I ahve used ubuntu for lot of time and never ever faced any issue but on arch based manjaro , installation was getting broken after every update and I was able to fix those but new comers wont be able too. One update came and it broke bluetooth and wifi and next update just gave me command line after reboot. I dont want newcomers to get this experience on linux.
In my experience, Fedora > everything else. Once I got used to its package manager, though. General usage, gaming, content creation, and just messing around with it, it's always been a dream
The first live linux distros I ever used were Dynebolic, Damn small linux and knoppix when I was 8 years old. But the first linux distro I used as a hard drive based desktop distribution was Slackware. I was roughly 11 years old when I picked up slackware and it wasnt too difficult to learn. I've never tried opensuse, red hat/fedora or gentoo before, however gentoo sounds rather interesting to me. I rather dislike ubuntu because it's not a privacy oriented distribution and prefer not to recommend it to new users. I''ll usually recommend linux mint, debian or manjaro to new users, and then ubuntu if for some reason those won't work. I am now 24 years old and I currently use arch linux as my distribution of choice and am therefore mostly partial to recommending manjaro to new users so I can convert them to arch as soon as possible xD
My first distro was Mandriva (2008/2010), the good time even if i barely know and understand the complexity of Linux. In my University there was OpenSuse, clean and stable. I tried back then Ubuntu, hated it, Fedora was ok. Even recently, Ubuntu is a pain.
Gentoo has Redcore Linux, which is allegorically equivalent to Manjaro, yes, but those two, along with Antergos and ArcoLinux, are still more in the same realm as Fedora and Debian in regard to "user-friendliness" so... yeah. Not exactly "certified noob friendly" material by any means, lol. I started with Ubuntu, personally, way back in the days of 8.04 LTS, then from there branched to Fedora and Knoppix, which is essentially a 32-bit only, live-CD version of Debian. Eventually I moved on and gained familiarity with Manjaro, the now-discontinued Revenge OS, and a few more distros closer to pure debian like CrunchBang and Deepin. All in all, most new users, I'm going to point them at Zorin OS, Peppermint, Ubuntu, Deepin, Pearl Linux, elementaryOS, Linux Mint, MX Linux, EndlessOS, Pop!_OS, etc., generally because they are the easiest and least confusing to use for 90% of people migrating from Windows or OS X, and who have general experience with the interface of mobile devices and/or tablets, with some even available preinstalled on store or online bought computers (Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Pop!_OS, and EndlessOS are either available preinstalled on their developers own preassenbled/designed hardware sold by the developers or by 3rd parties like Sapphire, Zotac and Dell, and LXDE and MATE respins of Ubuntu are available preinstalled on affordable ARM laptop/miniPC and barebones systems like the Pinebook).
Ubuntu was always weird for me. When I initially got into ubuntu back in 16.04 there was many issues with the nvidia drivers. I would either have to fallback into a terminal to get access to my files because of some weird bug thatll prevent me from inputting my password, whole OS would freeze with even the inability to use the keyboard, or just use 100 percent on both cpu on gpu with nothing really in the background. I would continuously attempt to diagnose each issue but would result in it being a bug within the OS itself apparently. Maybe some of it is fixed now. I know the bug preventing me to login is still an issue but ever since I went to arch I havent gotten a single issue. If there was an issue it was from something I did.
I’m actually in the process of trying out as many of the big distros as I can to replace Mint on my ThinkPad x220, so this was perfect timing for the video! Any suggestions for a good daily driver Distrowatch for a somewhat proficient user? I’m looking for something halfway between Arch’s rolling release & Debian’s stability. Fedora perhaps?
Fedora is better but for you try the Fedora Remix aka Korora if not, then for Debian based just go for MX Linux and you'll get support+help via one of the frontman+dev's YT page : ru-vid.com/show-UCFWlej2CSKlXW5uE9opXukQ
I've been running Fedora 28 for the past week or so, its been near weapons grade stable in my opinion. Its also easy to adapt from a distro like mint or Ubuntu to it since some of the base components work in a similar manor to those in Ubuntu or Mint. Basically the coper repositories gives you access to most 3rd party software, including stuff like chrome, steam and even the Solus native steam manager, in a similar manor to how Ubuntu PPA's work.
Manjaro for sure! I’d argue it’s the best distro out there hands down at the moment. Easy to install, up to date, good documentation, and still has Arch under the hood.
In this case try Gecko Linux if you don't wanna do some extra stuffs w/ OpenSUSE and have you tried the best Fedora Remix Korora yet? Then give a try ;)
Lèmmark Now there is a repository for NVIDIA in Tumbleweed so you don't have to manually recompile it after each kernel update. Also, Fedora started packaging the NVIDIA driver in their main repository. Crazy, right ?
Hi! I run openSUSE on one of my computers. I have not had any issues with proprietary drivers and codecs to my knowledge. Still a little new to the distro, so I might not be the best source in the world. Best!
Hello DT! If you want to cover all distros here are the six families: Arch, Debian (Ubuntu is Debian based), Gentoo, Independent (Solus, LFS, NutyX and similar), RPM (Fedora, OpenSUSE and similar)and Slackware. More than the notion of newbie, intermediate or advanced the kind of mind you have will play a major role in your choice. Here is a good video about it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FF6jYRyofZo.html Best regards, Serge
Historywise : 1. Slackware 2. Debian 3. RPM 4. Gentoo 5. Arch 6. Independent (LFS, Crux, Void, Solus, Nix and so) and upper listed 5 distros are also in the very list of 'Independent' ;)
hmm so of the 300+ distros on distrowatch about 5% or uh 15 distros are independant? one thing that i find confusing of distrowatch is not all distros on it are linux........ bsd and reactos are listed on it as well hehe
So potentially you could make your own distribution! THat would be a good thing to put on a resume ;) Thought of a nam already: I don't know what I'm doing Linux....too long?
i installed my linux distro in same order. OpenSuse > Debian > Arch. i am on arch from 2011. Now is time for new Linux (New PC)and it is going to be Manjaro, because i do not have time to instal Arch
I've used Linux since I had to buy it on floppy disks back in 1995ish. Debian is my favorite for desktop systems. Ubuntu is built on debian but is bloated. If I'm creating a server with no GUI or something I want very specific and lightweight I use Gentoo. If you REALLY want to learn how linux works use Gentoo.
I'd like to disagree with a few points about opensuse. they do not offer different editions based on the desktop environment. you have one iso file, one installer and during installation you can choose which desktop environment you would like to use. and even tho you get to choose one desktop environment you are free to install and use all the others as well. Occasional breakages of tumbleweed happen .. occasionally. Most of the time for me when I install a new kernel and have to manually install the nvidia driver again. The only time I got in contact with ubuntu, however, it was an LTS version and it constantly crashed. in my opinion ubuntu is in no way better suited for beginners than opensuse and probably many other distributions. the only reason it is so popular is because channels like this one recommend it to beginners.
Is it to hard to use term GNU/Linux ? GNU was way before Linux. Without GNU software Linux is nothing. Nice video but I would rather put them like that: 1. Debian and family 2. RedHat and family 3. SuSE 4. Arch and family 5. Gentoo and family 6 Slackware and family. Btw I hate rpm systems :) only Debian, Gentoo and arch :)
The whole Debian issue can be fixed with a better website. Getting it to install once you find the non-free iso is really not that hard, even for a noob like me.
I mostly look at distros based on debian so I can have the best compatibility and terminal commands that I already know. All of the drama about the inner-workings of the kernels that the elitist like to stroke themselves over does not have even the slightest bit of appeal to me. I bet 90% of the people involved in those conversations won't ever be affected by those differences anyway. It just seems like fanboys looking for something to go to war over, and then reciting what they've heard someone more knowledgeable say.
It's a weird list in any case as Ubuntu and Slackware users have very little in common in my opinion, leaves out BSD just because it isn't Linux but for many it would be a good alternative.
I'm not ok with your position towards Arch and Arch based distros, for sure everybody who used these distros had faced some brokes but the community is wonderful and everytime i needed help, everytime i was able to fix the system with the help of the community and i'm not an expert, developer, etc. just a normal user with some experience. Pacman is, for me, the best package manager of all main distros. Maybe Arch is not very suitable to newbies but here we have Manjaro or Antergos and these distros i think that are suitable for newbies. Arch is rolling, yes, in this case that is an advantage as you will never have to face that horrorific experience of release upgrade, specially with Ubuntu and Mint, not so hard with Debian or Fedora.
