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The other areas do not seem as good.

Area 3 for university

Area 3!

Area 3 for sure, it's a good spot with the future expansion plans.

Agree!

I know, just poking fun at all the comments I get about the US and roundabouts. Thanks too :-)

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Even if we didn't, I think that for the purposes of the game some creative liberties can be taken (like with the give way signs).

The Milwaukee Roundabout is a good example of how Americans navigate roundabouts

We even have the diamond interchanges where we drive on the wrong side of the road.

@Biffa Plays Indie Games, Upstate New York in both urban and rural areas are seeing more and more installation of roundabouts where 4 way intersections once were. The are helping with the traffic as long as people yield correctly.

Thanks for posting that. I was watching him use 40s and cringing.

Yeah! I was thinking the speeds are a bit too high also. They need to 5 to 10 lower on average.

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I was going to make a similar comment.

That must be different by area, because I’ve almost never seen a 25mph speed limit, and 35s are also on the rare side. Most of the side roads and neighborhoods (at least that I’ve seen. I’m from NY btw) are all 30. Mains roads seem to line up but I think have a little more variation than what you mention. The rest lines up. Oh, and I’m not counting NYC because they tend to do things slightly different than the rest of the state, and it’s a small area comparatively. Also, I avoid driving in NYC when I’m there, so I’m not sure how closely it lines up.

It wouldn't be an American build if the highway didn't go through a former minority neighborhood

@@phenethylamine91 lmfao

County courthouse type of area. Usually surrounded by small store fronts on all sides and down the main road a bit. That is Main Street, USA.

Lake County Historic Courthouse (Grand Old Lady), Crown Point, In 46307

Yes ! This and lots of retail strip malls , and TONS of parking lots

He's got a bigger road every five squares, so the neighborhood roads should be slower.

I see the in town collector as 30 to 45 that style highway I say it about 55 it more of a us route non express highway type rd is 70 15 for school areas 20 or 25 for most neighborhoods

Traffic circles are different, in that they usually have stop signs, and the roads can T in at 90 degrees like Columbus Circle. But yeah I know the one in Rutherford at least is more a proper roundabout. I think we just still use the old terminology for the most part. There are also places all over the US that have more modern roundabouts as well! edit to add: there are also two new modern roundabouts in the outer boroughs of NYC now, like finished within the last 10 years or so

But then we don't get bingo points for "Dedicated turning lanes"! ;)

there's no reason to have all the roads be dedicated turning lanes though

@@metalheaded666 yeah as it's also unrealistic in an American city, almost every road would either have its only lane for turning that's separate from the main lanes, or main lanes can go straight or turn to keep the flow of traffic moving, having to switch lanes every single time you pass a junction would be a mess

@@metalheaded666 It depends on how you like to set it up. I prefer the majority to be set up having dedicated lanes, so for the way I play the game, it's more convenient. User experience may vary, as always. _sometimes_ on a two-lane, if the majority of traffic is flowing right, I will set it as the dedicated lane, having through and lefts share a lane.

I would imagine that you would be able to set the roads with undedicated lanes if this option was turned on. Absolutely I would agree that not every road would have dedicated turn lanes. Most multi-lane intersections would have a dedicated left turn. Thanks all for your opinions and observations. It is nice to see different point of views.

Yep, and they are becoming more popular. I'm seeing them pop up all over the place(Southeast)

Same here in the Midwest.

A strode

@@tomheadington4762 yeah I was gonna call it that but I figured it’s too obscure

@@automation7295 Yeah, depends how busy the crossing is

@@icantthinkofaname2176 In the LA area the train lines are very busy due to the Long Beach port. Its a mix of level crossings or underpasses where the road dips below normal ground level but the train stays level.

Massachusetts have roundabouts are all over the place.

I live near Carmel, Indiana. We have a lot of them here.

When a smaller road “T”s into a larger it’s a stop. Equally large have lights. And smaller junctions are right of way yield. Yield is also used for slip lanes.

^^^ CAME TO SAY THIS ^^ Also - once you enable "use specific config on this line", you will get another button that appears that lets you just set the vehicle count, directly, rather than a budget %.

I suspect some of that weirdness might be because he gridded that section after using the curve tool.

And yeah, like some of the other comments- there are a ton of fast-food and other franchised stores in cookie cutter buildings. And strip malls in varying states of repair. The indoor malls are dying off but there are more outdoor type shopping areas meant to pretend to be a city center. And you'll need to use a lot of stroads.

The exact reason I sold 70 acres and moved from Texas to Mississippi. When I bought the land in Tx there were around 20 houses around me...when I sold it they were building roughly 250 houses and had finished over 100. It was a mess and I hated seeing the beautiful country side be turned into a country club

Yes, here in Michigan, residential streets are always 25, and in populated areas, two lane roads are usually 35 while multi-lane arteries are generally 40 or 45. Urban freeways (limited access, no stopping) are 55 over a certain population density, and 70 in suburban areas. In rural areas, freeways are 70 and other roads are 55. Speed is reduced around schools, construction or places where the road is treacherous. Traffic circles are increasingly common in low-traffic areas, and public transit is always underfunded and underutilized. Cities usually have buses, but as far as I know there is no city in Michigan with any subway or light rail. Downtown Detroit has two trams (one is elevated), and both routes are less than 5 miles. Most common arterial road has 3 lanes in each direction, either with a center lane for turning left, or as a boulevard. Limited access freeways (ramps and interchanges, no stopping) are extensively used in the U.S., with at least 3 lanes in each direction in cities, while rural freeways have 2 lanes in each direction. Except for a few large bridges, Michigan doesn't have toll roads, but some states have them for main routes. In this state, we have something that everyone calls a "Michigan left turn." Here, on boulevards, you can't turn left in an intersection. You have to go straight through the intersection, and there will be a turn-around lane across the median about 100 yards beyond the intersection. Turning vehicles have their own lane so traffic behind them does not stop, but there's a usually a signal for oncoming traffic, which keeps the turn lane from backing up. After you do the U-turn, you go to the intersection and turn right (right turns on red are allowed after stopping). Another common feature of U.S. urban freeways is the "frontage road." In Michigan, we call it a "service drive." This is a one-way road that runs along the freeway in the same direction as traffic on each side of the freeway. At each intersection, cross streets have a viaduct to get across the freeway, but there's a traffic light for the service drive on each side of the freeway. Instead of using a cloverleaf for these intersections, it is common to use short ramps between the freeway and service drive to exit the freeway about a quarter mile before the intersection and enter the freeway about a quarter mile after the intersection. In Michigan, most streets provide access to the service drive, even if they aren't big enough to cross the freeway, but except for gas stations at main intersections it is uncommon for businesses to have entrances on the service drive. It's common for the service drive to be at the same elevation as the surrounding streets while the freeway is sunk below ground level or occasionally elevated.

and the land immediately opposite would make a good location for the first, though not main, train station

Agreed! I also think American drivers tend to treat stop signs more as yield signs in many cases and most don't fully stop at the intersection before proceeding through. Like at 33:15, most cars wouldn't fully stop in that situation if it were a real life situation in my opinion!

Excellent assessment! Wholeheartedly agree.

can see the logic, but that would just about kill "turn right on red", wouldn't it?

And gun violence.

Don't forget the "there can never be too many parking" mentality.

@@arandomdudewithhobbies3318 except where it's NEEDED, then there's NONE

Everyone ends up driving 5-10 over the speed limit though. Idk if in Britain people follow the speed limit more closely? Which would make sense why they have 30 for roads that in the us are 25

@@ThePeMB1 I certainly can’t argue with you on that point. 🤣🤣🤣

Probably too much road there

@@farmingpotato3372 you could have a park with roads going through the middle. Even if not a park, a nature reserve would be pretty cool. Like a thick wooded area

I was actually just wondering if CS could do right on red as I was watching this video! Intersections that allow right on red seem a lot more likely to have a dedicated right turn lane to let people out than ones with no right on red, since then the left and straight people both have to wait for the light when the right doesn't. No right on red seems to favor a dedicated left turn lane, since they're usually the ones that have to wait for a gap in traffic to go. Of course that's purely observational, I'm no traffic engineer.

Agreed: mostly uncommon. If you want to confuse an American, put the northbound (or whichever direction) bus stop anywhere except across the street from the southbound bus stop of the same line. I think it's because when the car-related industries ripped out almost all of our streetcar lines in the 20th century they got replaced with buses running up and down the same drags in an attempt to fulfill the same purpose.

That's a potential change for C:S 2 that I'm undecided about. It would be much more realistic to have parking lots all over, but that's a Pandora's Box situation. The realistic parking setting in one of the mods (or maybe it's base game) still doesn't really force the builder to take parking into account other than aesthetic choices.

If he's going for any kind of realism, 50mph on a roundabout is absurd. lol

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It's probably a diverging diamond. Actually a pretty interesting interchange design.

Even better -- use Vanilla+ roads and you won't have to deal with the odd median effects of the BIG road pack.

Seriously? Public transport is lobbied *against* ?? That's crazy!

Roundabouts are what they are called on the west coast.

DC for instance is famous for its (somewhat frustrating) roundabouts. I'm sure people from every city in the NE say the same thing.

@@artistfkaW up here they're mostly on state roads outside metropolitan areas. DC is just like "We designed this in the 1700s and we're too stubborn to fix things! lets squeeze them in the 20' between three 200 year old buildings!"

I have the same issue sometimes. I noted it happens when we adjust use the pageup/pagedown keys to adjust the height, but doesn't happen all the time. Not sure if is a weird combination of using the pick pick mod or find-it to select a network then adjusting the height and then it will break the fine road tools making it disappear each time.

I have the same issue from time to time

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Close.. side street r 25 ...main street 35/40 ....freeway 65/70 ...highways 80/85

And that town is Carmel, Indiana, a suburb of Indianapolis (or Indy for short if you live in Indiana)

The parallel tool is such a time saver and you get perfectly parallel roads/rails/paths, etc.

Just a note: this must depend on where in the US you live because every city around where I’ve ever lived is a grid system until you get to developments formed after the mid 90’s

@@sheepdog1637 That's fair -- I've lived in a bunch of different places up the east coast so maybe because they're older (I'm talking more the smaller cities/big towns and like 100-250 years old) they're more sprawl and less grid? I'm not sure where you live but maybe further out west it becomes more griddy?

@@smiley__2338 yeah typically those old towns had roads that lead to the town center, I’m in the Midwest and it’s all grid, even country roads here are 1 mile square grids for the most part

"Why would i turn right when i want to go left?"