The Biggest Character Downgrades In Super Smash Bros History 

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Kirby, it's not even close. 64 2nd best to Melee...😢

The more I think of Ultimate Mewtwo, the more I realize how much his broken airdodge from SSB4 carried that character. One simple change made a day and night difference to his disadvantage; from a character that skips disadvantage, to a character that must now feel the full pain of being a large, lightweight character.

Kirby characters all ways start out strong then nerfed to the ground

Sonic from brawl to 4, he lost “You’re too slow” 😢

NOT THE DOG LARRY 😭

They should give Kirby back his hammer from Brawl too. It’s faster and more threatening in the air.

Lmao I love the Larry Ad Skits so much 😂 now it's time to enjoy some good old Larry content

rosa (4>ult) yoshi (melee>brawl) lucario (4>ult) ice climbers (brawl>ult) wario (brawl>4) dedede (brawl>4) samus (melee>brawl)

Kirby for sure.. First character that came into mind after reading the title. Everyone misses that old Kirby. I dont understand Sakurai for real... Kirby is such an iconic character in Smash and his creator does not help with it... :(

That feeling when Kirby got nerfed harder than Meta Knight or Bayonetta

I'm glad that I'm not the only one that noticed the Kirby characters being one of best characters in their Smash debut and then one of them gets a significant nerf in the next title and has never been the same since.

Ganondorf being mid-tier in Melee now is one of the worst characters in the last 3 games

These ads always go hard af

0:46 Wow! The sale goes from now until January 8th! That's awesome I'll get my shirts before Christmas!!

Man, what they did to Marth twice was unholy. At least in Smash 4 he blends in so well with the physics after all the buffs he got, but in Smash Ultimate, he doesn’t blend in at all. The Hero-King needs some real justice for this.

Great video and shirt but… where’s my dog Larry

nice video Larry. would love a part 2. Ganon was so massively nerfed from melee to brawl. i think he was more nerfed than Falcon tbh

I guess the crab incident had some relevance in this character review from game to game

Cool video! Love to see the inverse, biggest character upgrades, someday!

Kinda surprised ICs weren't mentioned. I knwo they weren't in 4, but theyre a menace in Melee and the 2nd best in brawl behind meta knight, and then in ultimate theyre just mid.

Thanks for the video essay.

I feel like you understated just how bad Kirby's melee throws were. You didn't even have to mash, getting out of his forward and back throws was as simple as pressing the jump button.

Kirby's an excellent example of what power creep is. Oversimplifying what makes Kirby good in 64, he was good in smash 64 because every character in that game had awful recoveries except for him and Pikachu. And Pikachu was a problem matchup for him. On top of nerfing him, he was generally just strong in things that were really strong with 64's system mechanics, like playing a solid defensive game. But then Melee has a meta revolving around fast paced characters. Its defensive characters either have excellent air speeds or solid projectiles, which Kirby has neither of. In Brawl and every game after, literally every character can recover well, which basically nails the only defining strength of the character into redundancy. That's WITHOUT mentioning the nerfs he got to everything. I'm saying that if Kirby didn't get any direct nerfs to his moves or stats from 64 (universal nerfs and system mechanics still apply), then he still would not have been nearly as oppressive.

Characters on my list (no order) 1. Kirby 2. DDD 3. Sheik 4. Marth 5. Ice Climbers 6. Meta Knight 7. Caption Falcon

Good to know Larry watches the boys

At one point, Corrin in ultimate was the least used character in tournament.

12:30 I saw that sweat slayer lmao Ain’t no way Ryu even close to that. Maybe pre patch ultimate But hell naw They nerfed shoryu but gave him good compensation Made him actually cool unlike Ken

Hmmm, that DEHF guy sure looks a lot like Larry! 😃

Poor Marth, they keep nerfing tipper each installment whether directly or indirectly. Ult tipper is the most inconsistent shit in the game yet they insisted they fixed it in a patch. Instead of being rewarded for good spacing, you're only rewarded like 70% of the time.

Who edits this?? Imagine the databank of smash tournaments you need to have to find clips of every move specifically being used in tournament and knowing where to find it

Diddy joke was DIABOLICAL

Mewtwo mains have to slingshot in order to manage that tail, but really a general lack of movement tech is holding him back. He actually has an absurd punish game littered with ToDs.

Can you do biggest character upgrades please

12:20 let’s not open this can of worms with the powerscaling 😂

Come to think of it, Pacman is the only ball character to not get omega nerfed, and he's the only one with actual limbs. Ableism!

Man they just don't know what to do with King Dedede, he had one decent presence in Brawl in part thanks to chain grab and after that he's just been chilling with Kirby at the bottom tiers. In fact a lot of "Kings" in Smash are or have been at the bottom tier, Sakurai HATES monarchies.

The more I play Ult the more I realize how pointless it is to play Marth competitively (if we go by on paper). I don't understand how the development team allows Chroy to have their Jab confirms but then they remove Marth's? Then they barely fix tippers besides a few tilts and aerials, but they weren't even close to being enough. Then Sakurai gonna whip out the lame "everyone is indeed balanced" excuse from quickplay results... Like dude... no. Just no. What is so wrong with buffing Marth's actual kill moves like Down Smash and Dancing Blade? Why couldn't he get his jab confirm back during his patch notes? Why was his Fair so nerfed to the ground? It should be way better at combos with the sour spot, considering how he was in earlier games... and Cloud and Corrin get THEIR forward airs to be combo starters that deal massive damage but not Marth? Wtf? Like of course I still enjoy the character but if they don't fix him in the next game Imma riot and I may not even buy it. Once Kazuya dropped I expected Marth to get heavy buffs but of course not. I was already losing interest in Ult and my fave char not getting anything he needed to be good just makes things so much worse. Marth just needs a rework at this rate.

Kirby deserves a lot of changes to make him competitively viable. Hell, more references to his abilities could solve his range issues while giving him powerful new tools. I just hope he can improve from being low tier man

Surprised Dedede didn't make the list since he went from a solid high tier in brawl into an absolute bottom tier in smash 4

I need marss and larry ad collab

The decisions made with mewtwo in ultimate didn’t make any sense. Making his whole tail a hurtbox is crazy. Smash 4 mewtwo was really good without being toxic so why nerf him into the ground on the next game?

Sakuri nerfed his characters because he don’t wanna be looking he’s showing basis. It’s like the coach who’s rougher on his own kids than the rest of the team. Well not right away anyways,

Roy was E tier in smash 4? i had no idea i’d still shit on everyone using Roy bc he was one of my mains in melee

Larry is definitely gonna be in the Oscar next year!

Brawl marth was crazy back at the time though

I’m surprised Lucario wasn’t on the list.

Give Kirby back the suicide throws

Lmao nice opening skit

I thought Smash 4 Bayo to early Ultimate Bayo would get on the list. Bayo might be good now, but before she got buffed in patch notes, she was pretty mid.

Dedede from brawl to 4 got nerfed pretty hard

Snake. His ass got nerfed.

Never played melee or brawl but smash 4 Falco was my main and man I felt so free with that character. Felt like I could do whatever I wanted, hate his ultimate version tho, but then again I just don't like ultimate

To me, Wolf has been downgraded from Brawl to Ultimate

Jigglypuff gets nerfed was deserved imo

More Pretzel please

Kinda shocked Meta Knight wasn't on here, but to be fair...you just did a video about him.

Ike's voice...its truly a tragedy

Lucario from smash 4 to ultimate is also another one.

It's weird seeing smash players outdoors lol

What's the matter we have in Smash ultimate, I agree with giving Kirby his 64 up tilt

Nooooooo the dog :(

Goat

I think Ryu was nerfed pretty hard from smash 4 to ult

Commenting before watching the video: I’m 99.99% sure that 64 Kirby to Melee Kirby will be mentioned. Edit: Glad to know I was right, despite it being unfortunate for my boy.

8:56 i mean hey at least he’s good in smash ultimate

64 up tilt + 64 mobility please. I want my 64 main to be good again

Yeah, the add had me untill you turned a dog into a shirt

Ike from Radiant Dawn to smash

Surprised not to see Ryu on here, even though he's much better now especially through patches, he did get some pretty severe nerfs between 4 and launch Ultimate. Very surprised you didn't mention it once in the video.

Melee Sheik -> Brawl Sheik

u should be in poppt1’s vid again

I’ll money match anyone who thinks Kirby’s bad in melee

Jigglypuff history mid to top to terrible to terrible to mid

Kirby is actually mid tier in ssbu his fair can spike at high percent go try him out

I'm sorry but if anyone thinks that multiple air dodges was ever a good thing, you're on crack

Kirby is my favorite Super Smash Brothers character!

It’s weird seeing smash players outside.

Guessing Jigglypuff from melee to brawl

I’m here early🔥

Pit- from a retro pick that was exclusively that to now where his 2013 game shook Smash to its fuckin foundation. Over 100 things from 1 singular game? Thankfully it’s dead and not coming back, but still…