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The Biggest Cheaters of Cubing History 

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Here are some of the biggest cheaters in WCA history.
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@noahswor
@noahswor Год назад
the other big one not mentioned is Fabio De'Rose, which is arguably the most entertaining of all. tl:dr, professional magician, got a sub30 3bld solve while averaging 50s by replacing the cube under the cover brought to him with one he already knew the scramble, the judge didnt notice because someone else in the venue just set an NR and the entire venue was distracted. In addition, he claimed to have gotten 40 second memo in an official 9 minute 5bld solve by one passing entirely audio memo (the fastest 5bld memo done officially so far 6 years later is Hill pong's ASR with 41 memo). When asked about his 5bld times, he said he averaged somewhere in the 4-5 minute range, but upon being asked to record some 5bld attempts at home, the best he could send was an 8 minute attempt (DNF) in which he had already attempted the same scramble several times before (I think around 5 times).
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Год назад
Yeah that's another interesting one I looked into too! Didn't include because video was a bit long and wasn't really a huge record. Also there's already a lot of blind in this video lol
@ZekeMackay
@ZekeMackay Год назад
fuck noah you beat me to it
@meowis526
@meowis526 Месяц назад
That aint a TL:DR, that's a RYLS (read you lazy sht)
@doritojuice9256
@doritojuice9256 Год назад
1:26 no way he stopped it at 12345
@aserhady10
@aserhady10 2 месяца назад
not only me who realized
@_Costed_
@_Costed_ Месяц назад
One time at one of my comps that happened
@roiel5153
@roiel5153 Месяц назад
Ik right that my first reaction too! 😂
@PlayeCrackenYT
@PlayeCrackenYT 11 месяцев назад
1:25 OK BUT THAT TIME THO
@curiousNic
@curiousNic Год назад
Great video! That was interesting and also a bit sad to watch, especially the case where the parents allegedly helped their son to cheat (top notch parenting). I'm glad they all got exposed.
@Ocarus0Cycle
@Ocarus0Cycle 11 месяцев назад
If they got away no one would know tho😢😅
@cwuber2023
@cwuber2023 Год назад
Such an interesting video to start off the new year! Hope you get much bigger on yt soon
@qwerty_qwerty
@qwerty_qwerty 2 месяца назад
cheating at clock is embarrassing
@benjishahaf5414
@benjishahaf5414 Год назад
Great video, and I love the new, more serious documentary-ish style of video! I hope you put out more of these videos soon.
@MeaninglessVids.
@MeaninglessVids. Год назад
yo bro i got a suggestion You could upload your video essays like this one as podcasts cause it could be more convenient and it doesnt require too much additional effort Love your videos man x
@nicnapier
@nicnapier Год назад
Awesome video! This is like a documentary!
@CubingDictator
@CubingDictator Год назад
I love this style of videos pls make more
@lucaschen9661
@lucaschen9661 Год назад
Great video! Just wondering, were you trying to make a video similar to the style of SunnyV2?
@TheOrigamiGenius
@TheOrigamiGenius Год назад
Cubemaster deserves more subscribers with the type of content he's posting
@GGSolved
@GGSolved Год назад
great video! i never knew of the first guy until now
@jorian_meeuse
@jorian_meeuse Год назад
What scares me is that there may be cheaters currently active yet to be discovered...
@the_no1_ginger252
@the_no1_ginger252 Год назад
This is very true. We do have more rules and regulations in place to prevent this from happening but it is still possible
@azstacker888
@azstacker888 Год назад
I’m sure it happens everywhere but the only time it’s gonna get noticed is when it’s a fast time or a record of some sort, it’s impossible to catch them all but wca does a good job
@ViswathKumaraa
@ViswathKumaraa Год назад
@@azstacker888 yeah exactly.
@fingertapper88
@fingertapper88 Год назад
Like the current single WR
@the_no1_ginger252
@the_no1_ginger252 Год назад
@@fingertapper88 in what event?
@ohypix
@ohypix Год назад
great vid cube master!
@aidenbyun3034
@aidenbyun3034 Год назад
Great vid bro!
@isaacvr
@isaacvr Год назад
Interesting as usual. Thank you master.
@rod6050
@rod6050 10 месяцев назад
6:46 Martin Telesforo affirmed that it could have been a misscramble because that tournament was very poorly organized, he said that his cube got stuck in a crack in the table and he made random movements and gave up the resolution but a large part of the F2L OLL skip was put together and a J perm himself affirmed that he was not proud because it was luck, apart from the fact that the cube was obviously not well Scrambled (the WCA tried to accuse him of cheating and they did not give him the opportunity to only put DNF to the resolution for a misscramble and they accused him of cheater and they banned of competitions)
@IDFB2When
@IDFB2When 10 месяцев назад
that crack in the table must be damn big
@BIG_NIC_CUBER
@BIG_NIC_CUBER 7 месяцев назад
7:56 that's why max park takes his non-oh hand off the timer while solving. so that doesn't happen.
@ayekareads
@ayekareads 8 месяцев назад
Once I had an entire round of skewb removed because I didn't know that sarah's notation wasn't what the standard used and I scrambled like a third of the round 😭
@ignDart
@ignDart 4 месяца назад
lmao, tbh i wish wca was lowercase so it was more intuitive and easier to get used to alg notation
@trytobestme7545
@trytobestme7545 10 месяцев назад
Great video fam
@Dumbledorf1234
@Dumbledorf1234 Год назад
Please do more of things like this
@tukann_
@tukann_ Год назад
really well made video!
@codingvio7383
@codingvio7383 9 месяцев назад
A good rule to follow if you are going to cheat: Don't be too obvious, if on tests you always get mid C range, it will be very suspicious if you get an A+ out of nowhere.
@TheIrfanKamal
@TheIrfanKamal 5 месяцев назад
or just, don't cheat
@playformers1238
@playformers1238 5 дней назад
A good rule to follow: study and dont cheat
@kyh148
@kyh148 8 месяцев назад
it's also very easy to accidentally stop the timer with your solving hand while doing OH ☠️☠️
@BPerm
@BPerm Год назад
We can all agree that you used the tornado v3 and the rs3m in the video.
@David1404
@David1404 Год назад
More of these videos please😄
@MapSecrets23
@MapSecrets23 3 месяца назад
U should also notice that Màtyàs was disappointed just as he put the cube down, b4 the sight blocker was taken away 1:23 look carefully at his reaction
@greenwerewolf617
@greenwerewolf617 Год назад
nice observations i like your vid
@venari2024
@venari2024 Год назад
One word: MORE! (Videos)
@TetraCubing
@TetraCubing Год назад
I think it was unfair that the competitor being helped by a delegate in bld was banned. It wasn’t his fault that the delegate told him the center orientation and he didn’t try to cheat.
@answer610
@answer610 Год назад
And him not saying anything about it makes him just as guilty as the delegate.
@tri-ify8852
@tri-ify8852 8 месяцев назад
@@answer610isn’t it a rule that if you disrespect the delegate you can get banned as well though
@CheddarCubed
@CheddarCubed 9 месяцев назад
6:50 the caption says martin cholesterol 😂
@TheRealUncleFrank
@TheRealUncleFrank Год назад
​ @Cube Master You can add another one to the list. WDC just posted in the WCA forums about banning someone for 2 years for cheating in blindfold events.
@J.J.J.J.J.J.J
@J.J.J.J.J.J.J Год назад
might need to update this now ;)
@jesdonut2223
@jesdonut2223 Год назад
Wow such a good video 🎉so so much info😊
@yentan913
@yentan913 Год назад
Is the YLM square 1 good
@ThatCubeKidd
@ThatCubeKidd Месяц назад
1:20 I think he could have easily gotten away with his cheating if he pretended to lose grip of the cube or something so he’s forced to dnf lol
@benjaminschmutter
@benjaminschmutter Год назад
Great video, far better than any of Matthew Mayernik's.
@ignDart
@ignDart Год назад
F R' F' R U R U' R'
@benjaminschmutter
@benjaminschmutter Год назад
@@ignDart is a better alg than F R U' R' U' R U R' F'
@ignDart
@ignDart Год назад
@@benjaminschmutter fr
@MatthewMayernik
@MatthewMayernik Год назад
damn don't flame me like that 😂
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Год назад
@@MatthewMayernik Your videos are great too :)
@NYCSquadCubing
@NYCSquadCubing Год назад
Do you know when I can get early access to video?
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Год назад
Got you with next, sorry don't post often so I forget lol
@Polina_Lapteva
@Polina_Lapteva Год назад
About the second to last situation I was at that competition and my mom heard that dude say "They didn't catch me" or something to his friends
@Alexey-qs6nr
@Alexey-qs6nr Год назад
тогда все вскрылось часа через три после соревнований, если ты про удмуртию опен
@Polina_Lapteva
@Polina_Lapteva Год назад
@@Alexey-qs6nr ага
@Brawler18717
@Brawler18717 Год назад
super nice Video crazy this facts
@IDFB2When
@IDFB2When 9 месяцев назад
7:20 bud hes doin speed fmc
@gryphey
@gryphey Год назад
1:25 that time is so perfect. 12345
@cubingwithchens
@cubingwithchens Год назад
The lesson??? Don’t cheat 👍🏼 Honesty is the best policy
@FedoranCubing
@FedoranCubing Год назад
I got both 3x3 wrs during lunch rounds. The pressure was immense.
@TrojanCubingandFE2
@TrojanCubingandFE2 Год назад
are you sure your state record wasn't brummagem
@FedoranCubing
@FedoranCubing Год назад
@@TrojanCubingandFE2 Lol that was completely palpable
@TetraCubing
@TetraCubing Год назад
can confirm for the single, the average is most likely brummagem however.
@qazxl123
@qazxl123 Год назад
My WCA 3BLD profile is all DNF's as well but not because I cheated.
@IDFB2When
@IDFB2When 10 месяцев назад
1:24 aint nobody talking about his time
@RowanFortier
@RowanFortier Год назад
Interesting video! Eh, some people try and cheat at everything lol
@sebastianmorber116
@sebastianmorber116 Год назад
Matthew Mayernik 👀
@NYCSquadCubing
@NYCSquadCubing Год назад
Pretty interesting
@ThatOneHarry
@ThatOneHarry Год назад
When is next stream
@KarpFortnite
@KarpFortnite Год назад
Good video
@zakykurnia27
@zakykurnia27 Год назад
what about U perm sracmble in worlds 2019
@sebastiannielsen
@sebastiannielsen Год назад
How do you "manipulate" a scramble? What I understand, the cube is not given to you before examining step, and it would be pretty evident if you turn the cube before timer starts, so should be pretty impossible to affect the scramble. Yeah, the competitions where the scrambled cubes were not held hidden from the cuber, but thats a err or the competition side, and it should not be considered cheating to take advantage of that information, unless you as a cuber purposefully trespassed into an area not intended for cubers not yet finished.
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 Год назад
I think they mean manipulating the scramble that is chosen for the round. It should be determined randomly by computer, but if you are involved in that process you can get the computer to spit out an easy scramble or one you already know. It seems very odd that delegates are allowed to compete in the competitions they are the delegate for... Stopping that would eliminate that problem...
@TetraCubing
@TetraCubing Год назад
@@thomasdalton1508 how is it "odd" that delegates get to compete in their own competitions? there are multiple delegates that have very high world rankings like Patrick Ponce, Elijah Brown, Carter Kucala, Jay McNeill, Conan Mo, Antonio Kam and probably a lot more that I'm missing. i trust delegates to not cheat by looking at scrambles beforehand, most delegates are very responsible and trustworthy people but Sebastiano Pino Castillo is a clear exception.
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 Год назад
@@TetraCubing How is it not odd? In what other competitions with prize money at stake are the officials not impartial and independent?
@dwyaneramos4208
@dwyaneramos4208 Год назад
You forgot Jasper Murray from the mannequin incident in 2017
@EquatorCubing_
@EquatorCubing_ Год назад
unforgettable
@TetraCubing
@TetraCubing Год назад
this
@petercharbonneau
@petercharbonneau Год назад
what happened?????
@Technoplane
@Technoplane Год назад
@@petercharbonneau yeah what did happen also I’m pretty sure at NAC I saw you not in the competition but when you were having dinner 😂
@petercharbonneau
@petercharbonneau Год назад
@@Technoplane lol ye i remember you
@bealu9459
@bealu9459 Год назад
yes, thanks
@willemklose
@willemklose Год назад
OH results were too close to 2H results Rouxers: 😥
@ZedaZ80
@ZedaZ80 Год назад
I'm waiting for a rouxer to "cheat" at 2H by doing OH solves 🤣
@Luna77543
@Luna77543 Год назад
@@ZedaZ80 *fahmi had entered the chat*
@TetraCubing
@TetraCubing Год назад
@@ZedaZ80 antonio kam
@DaMemeGuy_420
@DaMemeGuy_420 Год назад
Guys just sub theres no point of not subing but subbing makes them happy
@hagelsnow1789
@hagelsnow1789 Год назад
interesting vid
@ChrisChoi123
@ChrisChoi123 Год назад
Tommaso Raposio said something interesting about Ushakov's fmc wr: R' U' F R U2 R F2 D2 R' B2 R D2 B D' B' U2 F2 D2 R' B2 D' R' F' R' U' F R' B' D2 R' U R // blocks (actually the only convincing parts of his original explanation) D U F' // EO (U/D) + DR R D2 R' U2 L' // HTR B2 D2 B2 D2 B2 // finish if you pretend it's cyprian doing random blocks at the start, this solution is almost believable
@ChrisChoi123
@ChrisChoi123 Год назад
like its crazy how far FMC has gotten. almost every single solve at the highest level (with the big exception of Cyprian) is done with thistlethwaite's algorithm of EO->DR->HTR->finish, and so its become really really difficult to discern cheating if the optimal solutions given by nissy or cube explorer is basically identical to what a human could concievably come up with. as long as the optimal solution doesnt break any of the steps along the way, one could just claim that the EO and Dr of the solution was something they happened upon. and this isnt that unbelievable, since the top people reguarly try like 30-50 EOs sometimes for a given attempt. it would be so easy to write a bunch of EOs, try and write down a bunch of DRs, and have the optimal cube explorer's solution be one of them and get an easy WR
@knghtbrd
@knghtbrd Месяц назад
Unfortunate that these competitors did what they have done, or seem to have done in several cases. If you cheat, it's a matter of time before you're caught. All of the respect people have for you will be gone in an instant. All of the support will be replaced with rejection the very moment people learn that you duped them and made them accomplices to what you did. I doubt I'm speaking for myself here: I'm a nerdy person. Not like cool nerds who speedrun video games and have like millions of followers-I'm like the dorky sort of nerd who doesn't fit into normal crowds at all. If that sounds like you … when you go to a cubing event, these are your people. Your friends, even the ones you don't know very well yet. You don't need to be the best to make friends, and even if you're good enough to win some prize money, so what? Is the small amount of money you could win worth throwing away your connection to the people who are just glad to see you there? Is it worth being the center of positive attention for a few minutes only to become the center of doubt and ridicule for years after the fact? You don't have to be the best to be respected, you just have to finish well. Play fair, and may next time be at least as good as your last one.
@helmerewert2191
@helmerewert2191 Год назад
Martin Teleforo's solve was indeed on cam, here it is: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BHtgCp4A6GU.html
@TetraCubing
@TetraCubing Год назад
bruh
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Год назад
I used that footage because I couldn't find anything of him solving haha
@jasonanno3881
@jasonanno3881 Год назад
Are these guys making any kind of real money for doing any of this? I don’t know much about speed cubing besides Felix and max but I assume even they don’t make a ton of money. These guys are really just cheating to impress other cubers? That’s pretty wild.
@draguncubing7173
@draguncubing7173 9 месяцев назад
Yeah they cheat to impress other cubers, it is as pathetic as it sounds.
@bealu9459
@bealu9459 Год назад
JS cuber mede n interviw in spanish with Martín telesforo
@CubeMasterYT
@CubeMasterYT Год назад
Saw it too but my spanish is very bad and translator isn't that great :( If you understood it, anything new from that video?
@wrmmagglev9192
@wrmmagglev9192 Год назад
New video!!!!!
@Eliminator5555
@Eliminator5555 Год назад
Cheaters SUCK!
@kuusik100
@kuusik100 11 месяцев назад
1:26 1 23 45
@RemyMS
@RemyMS Год назад
Cool!
@sebastiannielsen
@sebastiannielsen Год назад
I wonder, why isn't blind cubing done using a visible cube but that has same color on all sides, but has invisible markings (UV or similiar) that can be read using blacklight. (Then the examination step could be made with a blacklight that has a timer) Another alternative would be to have magnetically attached black cover plates that covers each color, that needs to be removed using a suction cup. That should make it practically impossible to cheat during blindfolded runs, and they could be run with eyes open.
@AntiPerm
@AntiPerm Год назад
1:25 1:23:45 lol
@fingertapper88
@fingertapper88 Год назад
You forgot the current single WR
@PersonCuber
@PersonCuber Год назад
What if you get the 1 in 43 quintillion luck and get a quick scramble that you can do sub 2, say you learned it for an April fool's joke, what then?
@asr2009
@asr2009 Год назад
at least that scramble should be using a believable method instead of random moves
@jouda2097
@jouda2097 Год назад
Epic
@mendeldukes2496
@mendeldukes2496 Год назад
nice
@KaelHitchcock
@KaelHitchcock Год назад
Why am I not in here?
@guillermoalvarezmartinez1168
EL FEO!!!! :')
@mendeldukes2496
@mendeldukes2496 Год назад
i wont cheat
@Bryn..
@Bryn.. Год назад
:)
@Dumbledorf1234
@Dumbledorf1234 Год назад
5th
@kataevnikolay2902
@kataevnikolay2902 Год назад
Я в шоке от русских куберов.
@vlad_cubing
@vlad_cubing Год назад
At the moment we are taking care of all such moments in Ukrainian cubing
@bohdanvinter6929
@bohdanvinter6929 Год назад
qq
@radar9893
@radar9893 Год назад
POG vid now I’m going to ask for a pin so please pin me
@GlitchedPhoenix
@GlitchedPhoenix 9 месяцев назад
@Okaz_
@Okaz_ 8 месяцев назад
what the
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