I just bought it. And it's a compliment ! Since I don't like much those "courses selling" business models. But i discovered you fews days ago and i got a crush on you ! I like your philosophy, your tone, your skills , your mentality and your approach of challenging yourself to become the best you can ( +bonus point for the mustache). I really wish your health will stay fine forever, so your achievement of your highest art level skill will be the day of your death ; never stop learning and mastering. You clearly inspire me to start drawing again. Thanks a lot for that. And giving you fews $ for that course is the least i can do. I can't wait to see all the content that are coming. And how you deal with every walls you gonna encounter. oY
@fishbol478 nah I'd say the easiest thing to overlook in art is foundational readability because you know what you're trying to show and it's hard to instinctively imagine you're a new viewer to the idea. I'd argue composition gets a little pseudoscientific sometimes but some understanding of that and of readable silhouettes is paramount. If somebody can see the thing from across the room and get a general idea of what's going on, you've probably done your job
I do this all the time. Looking at my own work, or looking at artists I admire. Its a good way to force yourself to only see values and shapes so you can’t get distracted by the details and can grasp the overall form easily
Older paintings were made for grand rooms, but now we enjoy intricate details on small screens. Even wall art is marketed online. Amazing how technology changes our interaction with art
I was just thinking about this the other day! how technological advances, be it in the Art medium or general situations, influence art in said period of time. i know it’s not a new concept but it’s very interesting to think about how from the first flame to light a cave wall to a smartphone in your hands determines what and how the canvas will be filled
He wants to be a great artist but in the meantime, he's a great teacher. I'm adding a PS because there are too many people who don't understand humor. I don't want to throw shade on the young generation, but you have totally lost the meaning of words. Like the word GREAT. It has always meant something above and beyond. For an artist, it means maturity, powerful imagery, enormous disctinction, elevated, masterful and hanging in a museum with Rembrandt and DaVinci and All those Greats. In his lifetime Van Gogh was not considered great, but now he is. Its something that has to be earned, like respect. The word Great can be used casually as in "that's great:, but Jake is not talking about that. He said his goal is to become a Great artist. He seems like a nice, humble guy, not grandiose to go around talking about how Great he is. We would call him at this stage an aspiring artist, an emerging artist witth the potential to be Great. If he keeps going like this he probably will be. Frankly, I'm happy if I make something that qualifies as Art.
I prefer this style of shading, in my HS painting class my teacher at the time told me my shading was “too subtle” and to be “more dramatic” in shading because she said “people won't be as up close to the painting and it needs to be seen from afar” and I remember being like “No, I like it this way” and she’d take points off lol
Huge part of why I am glad that I am homeschooled, teachers tell you "there's not one way to learn or see things, do it your way!" but the moment you think a bit differently than their system they shame you, hell they don't even let you try again they just make you feel like a failure
Her ear was left more skinnier because the model is wearing a pretty scandalous (for the time) gorm of makeup ad she wants to highlight that. The painting ruined her life for a lot of reasons, that is one of them
I have a bachelors degree in Graphic Design/animation and I have not done shit with it. I’m 28 now and I haven’t hooked up my drawing tablet in literal years, but man your channel makes me want to start making stuff again
I've found that having a project to work on is good for mental health. Instead of ruminating about the small aspects of your life, your mind will drift to your project when you aren't working on it.
Can I ask about what you are doing now, if it's not too personal? Did you study something else entirely? Did you start working in another field? Just curious, you don't have to answer :)
You're such a good teacher. I'm an illustrator and I do draw studies of sculptures and study a lot of historic paintings, and that is so true that our eye is now trained to see every single detail. It overwhelms the senses and does not create unity, therefore the art looks as if its lacking something.
I love the way you look at older art and how you teach I’ve always resonated with older paintings for the choices in subtle details and colors. I wanna learn more from your channel and hopefully start painting again.
@professionalcatboypegger she has been at Tate Britain in London for the Sargent and Fashion exhibition (which was amazing), but it finished today, 7th July. Not sure if it is touring to other galleries or not.
To be honest this was a particular artist with his own style, and a particular response to the subject. There are lots of paintings from the same time which have a less simplified rendering of skin tone
@@aaronline5889 Originally the left strap of the dress was down, which at the time caused a scandal, especially because the model was married and the painting was not commissioned by her husband. The painter got a bad reputation and after a while he repainted it with the strap up.
Its so good to study old paintings made in those era. It makes you appreciate the painting, or even the artist, even more once you understand and acknowledge the very little aspects in their works, thus appreciating their skills in art. With so little informations back then, compared to now where you can look up a youtube video, it just seems so much more impressive
That's not a trend of the times. It's just a common mistake that's always been made. Show me an example of a contemporary top artist making that mistake. I don't think you can.
@androart1817 yeah I literally don't even recall what I was referring to, but it wasn't what the first guy suggested. Though the method of natural painting, and viewing the entire canvas, of whatever it's size is, in its natural state throughout the process Vs painting digitally and zooming in for details, likely results in the difference of the final product. .... but I think I was probably referring to "individuality" being valued over "the collective". People tending to prefer being a spectacle over attempting to contribute to the whole, and the resultant affect on society.
@@theoriginalmonstermaker yea that’s a problem with trying to be an artist online these days. You have to be unique to make it but also everything that is visually appealing has been done before. So even if you have all the skills and/or uniqueness it still comes down to luck. I draw on a screen tablet and I only zoom in a little bit because it’s hard to make smooth lines when zoomed out. But I have tried a massive tablet before and it was just awkward it didn’t feel right. This one fits in my lap and that’s how I like it
@@androart1817 I think chance has always played a pretty pivotal role in "popularity", but honestly, most talented ppl suffer more from a marketing issue. You need to take your skills and figure out how they can be packaged and sold. And yes, with new tools there will always be pros and cons, but it also permits new innovation as well 👍
The lesson I've learned is to Back! Up! and Stop! Zooming! In! if the first time you see the whole work is at the end it's not gonna be what you expect
Every single detail in those pictures is a masterpiece! Those blue tones on her skin portraying shadows and little veins is what makes her pale skin astounding. Maybe I got it wrong but it seemed you suggested that without those the painting still works. Those are not imperfections or details meant to be ignored by squinting or standing far appart, those are the brushstrokes of a maestro.
Sergeant is a master of using so little to depict so much. Some of his paintings look like a vague mushy brushstroke up close and you step back a foot and see a perfectly rendered hand. my man was just built different
Idk I think it rlly depends on the lighting u are going for! Sometimes light makes the face colorful with tones bc of shadows and varying degrees of light. I think both is good :-)
I really wish this short existed when I was in schoo!! I was constantly being told off for not having more contrast between light values, but when I listened and they approved, I couldn’t help but think it looked like clown makeup!
I think it has to do with the layering as well. I was surprised to learn during art school that many másteres would put down bright green as an undertone because in pale skin it mimicked the blue and red tones of our veins. Crazy stuff
I was trained in traditional painting and self taught in digital and I noticed when I’m painting digitally I tend to get really sucked into one tiny part of the painting whereas when I’m working on a canvas or piece of paper I’m much more focused on the whole painting just my thoughts❤
Idk how much i can get behind this. Ik ur just tryna say that focusing too much on small details can make ur art look a lil weird, but i wouldnt say flat colors to this extent is the way to go. You have periods like baroque which came way earlier, where they used similar contrast styles in their paintings, but still had to use all sorts of diff shades of skin and fabric for shadows to rly getting that lighting out. Impressionism was going on around the same time madame x was made, and that was a movement that took a totally different direction where all sorts of colors were part of every aspect of the art, and using flat colors in this way to this extent woulda totally failed. Id like to point out that american renaissance takes inspo from the italian renaissance, where everyones white asf and no one has wrinkles somehow. The northern renaissance loved wrinkles and werent afraid to create depth for natural skin folds and flaws (everyones still hella white) I think the idea is good and useful, because its helpful for artists to know when to stop in detailing, but not the examples.
i think. one of the biggest things that has been helping me loosen up and embrace simplicity in my art is just. Taking my glasses off. I cant focus on the small details if i cant see them, lmao
I always paint with like “blurred” vision. Like when you really relax your eyes your vision becomes blurred when you look at near objects. I always paint like that - it helps stay in focus and it pushes my mind :)
That’s why I don’t like a lot of modern portraits, they are photographs. I’m not looking for a photograph, but for a portrait, massively different in nature.
We (communication arts artists) don’t use a lot of notan right now, but it was really popular with communication arts artists between 1990’s and early 2000’s. I looooooove all the work they did in the first Narnia movie because they prioritized notan over form and chiaroscuro in many of their shots. And yah, notan was also popular during Sargent’s time because there was a heavier emphasis on eastern design principles being integrated into western art. Eastern art focused way more on unified shapes/design/color rather than rendering shadow and light and form.
i think the thing is that people utilized the less is more aspect in painting cos it was expensive during the time so they used as little paint as they could to conduct the same feeling- but in digital art it is unlimited
I think this phenomenon occurs mainly due to color photography. The still image captures more shades than a sitting with the model. The artist may find themself more caught up with all the detail they want to paint. I am a great enthusiast of the old masters but did experience traps of copying photography.
I do think, though, that this style of painting is like a 19th century version of modern beauty filters. The real person may well have had dark under eyes and skin with greater contrast, but she (and sargent) wanted to render an immortally/youthfully beautiful version of her.
I think part of it could be beauty standards. Modern makeup emphasizes contour and highlights, while a flat, even complexion was highly valued back then (geisha come to mind).
I think so much subtle detail is lost because digital art doesnt seem to recreate the way that paint gets dragged across the canvas when you very lightly brush the shadow over skin
I’m not a painter. Never wanted to be. Just not interested (nor have the talent). This channel is more entertaining than most of the channels I subscribe to. Thank you 🙏
Do you stream? I honestly believe you could do courses by streaming with how good of a teacher you are and you seem to have the right personality for it. Id join in for some live coaching!
Yeah I have a round of classes going on my website right now. You can still get access to the recordings and future lives! Jaketaplin.art the next round of classes is starting in August /September
Originally that artwork was different. One of her straps was off the shoulder, it caused such a scandal, he was pressured to repaint it with the strap correctly and the model was ostracised and lost her reputation.
what do you mean-- it's just that there re more people whom are bad at it, bc more people are doing it. It doesn't mean that people who are good at it don't exist, they're just not the only ones who manage to be successful or visible.
I feel like this is a bad example… the face is being fully hit by light from this angle, if you continued to paint the neck, ear, underside of the nose where it goes into shade it would look different. Yea things are gonna be subtle when blown out by a bright light. That depends on lighting. And it can be good. But I think there is a better case to be made for why contrast is important. The face wouldn’t be so bright and readable if it wasn’t for the context provided by the darkness of the background and the hair. And if that’s not what you meant, which wouldn’t surprise me because it was hard to understand, then you did a crap job at explaining it.
Im looking at the comments and Im kind of astonished how no one is acting surprised or thinking "That is some insane advice" Funny how the one time Ive been blasted by some knowledge bomb that can personally revolutionize my thought process was the one time where everyone's like "yeah true" When in most art tutorials that dont impress me everyone is like "OMG WHERE HAS THIS TIP BEEN MY WHOLE LIFE?!?!" while I'm thinking "Well erm yeah image material layer is something you eventually learn with experience so I dont get why yall are surprised" or something
The history of this painting is interesting, I always think of the shoulder strap and its original placement. How this painting horribly effected the model's reputation.
The story behind “Madame X” is so sad. What eventually happened to the sitter Virginie Gautreau, was horrible. Singer just washed his hands of the controversy and Gautreau became a shut-in from society. Singer was such a prick regarding the whole sorry mess.
