The BIGGEST Valve Deckard "Leak" EVER 

As always, they definitely knew I would have a happy time tonight when they pushed this update. Very thankful to Valve for brightening up my night

@@SadlyItsBradley what I don't get is why can't valve design this to be compatible wired with the steam deck can't the headset offload alot of the workload. I would be down for a lower cost VR that could do 72hz 720p half life alyx VR that was deck computable.

@@Spencerwalker21 pcs are better.

@@bestboy007 ofc but I like consoles gave up PC gaming ages ago. This steam deck from valve has roped me back in.

was the obvious path to recouping some of that R&D money. Especially when it's solid win in the handheld market and a way to up steam sales AND a way to give vr devs something else to develop/test on. I wager we'll be seeing cross play games with deckard and steam deck/pc shortly after release. It's way too easy to expand a player base for vr devs this way. practically matching hardware and an expected baseline for performance.

@@lifeartstudios6207 do you think the deckard will let me play half life alyx with this wired into the steam deck just making sure I understand what you commented. I would be down for a 720p 72hz low cost option for half life alyx on steam deck.

@@Spencerwalker21 unsure, but it's possible. There's a few factors I'm curious about first.

Using Steamdeck as the foundation for Deckard's hardware and software is brilliant and lets them get the linux OS communities get fine tuned for gaming so that Windows can get dumped overboard as Microderp runs itself into the ground. I switched to Linux months ago now and with every step Valve takes to improve Linux compatibility/support makes it less and less nessisary for me to keep a Windows 10 VM or Dual boot around, So Long live GNU/Linux, the FOSS community, and the awesome folks at Valve

i always thought this is so obvious, it's the first thing i thought when i heard about steam deck the first time.

@Game Over Honestly, if only 2 of the things on my wishlist come true, I would hope it'd be the linux support and the cutiekeys thing. I pretty much only keep a windows partition around at this point for VR. I'm ready to move on from windows after this happens, this is pretty much the final obstacle, I can miss out on a few EAC games with stubborn developers who won't check the box that allows it and not be too broken up about it.

I just want wider fov lol

​@Game Over I do everything exclusively on Linux including VR. SteamVR is, by far, the most buggy app I use with any amount of consistency, and basically my only major pain point with exclusively using Linux at the moment. It's so bad that, as much as I would love to recommend Linux for everything, I just can't recommend Linux for VR. It works, yes, but it's ridiculously buggy (some bugs like one that freezes my graphics stack when I start SteamVR with other 3D apps at the same time are particularly catastrophic) and lots of features do not work properly. I would only recommend it if you're really, really determined not to use a proprietary OS or can't afford Windows (both are the case for me), and I would, hesitantly, recommend VR if you are already on Linux. I really, really would love better support. I do not have any Windows install, so having better Linux support in SteamVR would help so much in making my VR experience better. It would also hopefully result in more people doing VR on Linux which would hopefully push userbase numbers enough to get slightly better support from Unity, etc.

I am glad to know I am not the only one who wants better support in SteamVR on Linux. I meet people in VRChat who use Linux surprisingly frequently, but usually they are not running VRChat _on_ Linux probably because SteamVR is so terribly buggy. More people who want this hopefully will mean that more support will come sooner.

@@happysmash27 There's also the fact that video players in VRChat under proton are broken right now as far as I can see but that's equal parts a VRChat problem and a proton problem. Which is a shame because VRChat otherwise runs just fine, but not having video player support takes away one of my main uses of VRChat which is movie night.

I don't mind the wait.... Because I'm trying to save enough money haha... I want to order it day one otherwise it be long wait you know, just like the steam deck. My is Q3

@@TheDragonfriday I'm in the same boat as you. This thing with all bells and whistles (attachments, you say?) will likely be $1500.

October

@@thomasireland1770 why?

@@Mo-fh3ob why not?

I hope so, Index is so outdated now

I hope so. Pimax 12K and Crystal claiming to have separate standalone and Wi-Gig 2 PCVR modes could make it better than Deckard if they 1. Work as advertised (but it's Pimax, so doubtful) and 2. Deckard only does PCVR.

Steamlink and steamdeck having a console-esque baby with bigger gpu and cloud streaming capabilities

maybe it’s very similar to the steam deck, but then again that may be a bit underpowered - but if it’s not just for gaming then it’s definitely enough for lots of productivity tasks

@@casualfriday902 Getting a Pimax for standalone application use is as short-sighted as getting Vive Focus 3 for standalone. What games are you going to play on a platform that no one will develop for when the install base is going to be 0?

@@ThunderDraws would the deckard work with the steam deck I would be so no hyped for even 720p 72hz half life alyx

Ya. I wouldn't expect a full-on release either. Just like Steam Deck

If Valve confirms new HMD, it could ruin sales of all the other headsets. Who in their right mind will spend money on non valve hmd if Valve is gearing up fo their index2

Deckard is a concept headset like Vader was. The consumer headset won't be called Deckard. If they are still talking about Deckard they are far off a consumer model.

@@christophermcmanus5103 that's not necessarily true. Yes it won't be called Deckard but that's just a name. They can change the name during an announcement with no problems. Tech companies do it all the time

@@gothicvillasgaming right that'd be the Osborne effect. Launch has to be imminent after announcement. Except there is competition you need to excel with a new product. Or you are just Valve and don't really care that much about it.

They learned that but that doesn't mean they wont see the value of more affordable products. Keep in mind the Deck is a handheld PC which is versatile to play decades of games whereas VR is in its infancy and outsiders only see Half Life Alyx, Astro Bot Rescue Mission and only a few others as "must play" VR games. It's a harder sell to make Deckard cost close to what the Index costs because many will continue to be turned off. Valve needs to be competitive with Oculus Quest if their goal is to get more gamers to own a VR headset. If their goal is to be a sequel to the Index then they will get the same customer base at a $1k price point which isn't great for gamers.

@@gvulture1277valve is in the high end headset market, it's about pushing the boundaries as much as possible for consumers who can afford it

@@mondude89 The Steam Deck is very competitively priced though, the base model isn't much more expensive than the Switch. It's not outside the realms of possibility that they'll have different SKUs for their next headset as well.

I'd still be ok with a 64 or 128 gig version if I can do a ssd upgrade

@@ManlyOBeeferton do you not know what competively priced means or something?XD no1 buys just the base model without tracking stations or controllers. in practice the $1000 set is like the bare minimum. add to that the requirement for a PC and you won't really be done for less than $2000 (assuming you start from scratch which a lot of consumers have to do since they don't own powerful gaming PC's) now put that opposite to the quest 2 which is like $400 bucks and offers a complete VR experience out of the box. Like loads of parents bought a quest (2) for their kids. I doubt very many bought their kids a VR capable PC and an Index. they're just not even competing really. granted true gamers know that PCVR is where it's at and the quest's XR2 chip just doesn't compare but for the regular consumer that doesn't matter as much, they just wanna play beat saber and Richie's plank experience or something. also airlink and virtual desktop work surprisingly well and again the average consumer won't care that the index looks better cuz it has no compression if the headset is more than twice as expensive. (and wireless VR is really a big improvement over wired VR so I'm guessing Deckard will have to do Wifi streaming as well)

Valve making games: 💀 Valve making Vr o consoles: **Gigachad**

Another WMR user here, eager to replace mine with a Deckard since I'm switching to Linux anyway and sadly WMR is incompatible

yeah controllers with Inside out tracking seems to be the next big thing, Sony's PSVR2 patents were showing it as well. makes sense IMO cuz inside out tracking is far superior when it comes to convenience but not as good when it comes to accuracy and tracking behind your back and stuff. putting inside out tracking on the controllers seems to fix a lot of these issues while still being more convenient than base stations

Hell yes! 3D gaming was always severely underrated. But the UI being rendered at 0 depth in most games kinda made it not worth it as daily driver :(.

@@ZoKKeRFreAK I never minded the UI being in the foreground, as that made sense anyway. It's the world and characters - the actual rendered objects with depth that matter.

cant wait to cancel my steam deck for the deckard

Whats in July?

@@gothicvillasgaming The SteamVR fest! There’s a chance that they might announce the Deckard there considering the insane amount of stuff that was in this new update’s code.

@@KiegKillsReality why wouldn’t they announce it at CES?

Any time!

thank you :3

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Seems like a reliable guess. I should also add that this functionality was accessed after the video. It allows us to pick which exact dongle to set into pairing mode. So a QoL feature for people who use a lot of trackers!

Again, the price is going to be essential for any gaming device. If Valve releases a $1000 headset with a $500 x86 addon, it's not gonna create the impact that PCVR needs. I really hope this is just a standalone PCVR headset centred around the Steam store, which would help Valve subsidize the device. Hopefully this isn't more than 600 dollars but let's see.

@@yousafkhan6921 I bet the price will heavily depend on if you buy the x86 add on or not - and people who already own a beefy pc probably don’t need it

@@yousafkhan6921 I would be extremely surprised if this will be $600 I believe it will be $1,000 again.

With headsets improving at a tremendous pace, it doesn't really make a lot of sense to go modular. Every 2 or 3 years a headset will come out that is better in every way and you'll wanna buy that one

The neat part is they could sell better compute modules later to upgrade the capabilities of the headset in standalone mode, and possibly even enhance wired/wireless teathered mode to some degree

Oh hai baldrick

@@MatchTerm Oh hi Mark!

No doubt, almost for sure have it built in

yes. and foot fetishist tracking support

@@SadlyItsBradley FUCK YES FEET ARE IN BABY LETS GO!

@@SadlyItsBradley so hyped to finally see feet in the third dimension. Groundbreaking stuff.

Furies want their tales to be tracked

There are some VR arcades that have multiple different headsets, you might be able to sample 1 or 2. But if you have any friends already into VR, I'd just ask for a demo. If you have a decent gaming PC there are quite a few decent options atm, but if you don't, the Quest 2 is about it. And it really is pretty good, especially if you're new, it will prolly be amazing, which is really all you need.

Ali express 😅

@@SadlyItsBradley No way haha, can I get a link? (to the ZeroTwo one) I'm having trouble finding it

I'll be upgrading from a Dell WMR, which is especially nessisary as I've installed Linux on my Desktop and WMR is not even slightly compatible...

@@UNSCPILOT kind of in the name though XD

@@zwenkwiel816 well yeah, your not wrong, But it wasn't really an issue until I decided I was tired of Windows and didn't want to "upgrade" to 11 or stay with 10. Now I'm using Linux and have a unsuitable VR headset, as tradeoffs go it's a little annoying but eventually solvable

Doesn’t really matter much.

I thought it was a dress.

I've heard that the weight isn't so much of a problem as the distribution of it is (i.e. 95% of the weight being in front of your eyes) and that adding a counterbalance at the back can help with that. Maybe valve will put things like the battery at the back of the headset to combat this

@@livingfray2340 weight is indeed a big problem for me personally. I have used quite a few VR headsets extensively and added counter weights to make headsets perfectly balanced such as the index and quest 2. I can 1000% say the added weight makes it even worse even though it’s more even feeling my neck feels like it’s been hit with a hammer after using VR. But I do use Vr for 6-15 hours a session which is likely much higher than most people.

@@kilsnacks Fair enough, I've been lucky enough to not have any problems with it since I rarely play for more than 3 hours continuously so I was just going off what I've heard works for others

I’m ngl I’m super excited too. I just bought an index like 4 months ago but I’d be so tempted to upgrade if it’s lighter and wireless

If it makes you feel any better, I'm sitting in the "Windows Mixed Reality Headset" ultra peasant corner, trying to save for a Index or hopefully the Deckard

You can use the quest 2 with linux?

@@werewolf1e yup, you can use alvr to connect your quest to your linux computer

I think they built the Steam Deck to start the Steam OS platform that would be the basis of the future for their XR HMDs

Valve dont need to do anything to fund anything, they make billions in net profit every year just from steam.

drank yo coffee

Might help the two onboard SOCs talk to you desktop/laptop hardware in wired/wireless teathered mode

$1199 sounds pretty fair to me, especially if that includes all the basics to get started, I can understand if it cost a bit more though

@Hugohopser Main FEX Emu developer is personally interested in making Steam's Beat Saber work on Linux ARM and he already made HL Alyx launch on Snapdragon (!) so that won't be a problem in the future. The real reason this is absolutely NOT related to Quest in any way is because it's a closed platform with only 1 digital store allowed. Valve cannot do anything there and won't be interested.

@@kazioo2 making a program launch is still miles away from optimizing it to run well, especially on VR. Carmack discussed in his last keynote that Occulus has always been open to allowing other headsets to use its platform, but the Quest is already sold at a loss so the business case doesnt make sense. Valve is actually one of the few companies in a position to do it, whether or not theyre interested.

hi :D