THE BIRDS AND THE BEES WITH GEORGIE NDIRANGU & OVER 25 

an absolutely wholesome conversation. Hope you guys know that this is the first time a lot of us are hearing a structured, mature convo about sex, by Kenyans on top of that! and we've been on earth for two decades. mantalk ke is the gift that keeps giving. wishing yall the best as you keep up the good work

This is such a RICH conversation. I bumped into Eli a week ago and I will repeat the same thing I told him right here. I am a mother to one wonderful son and seeing the 3 men on this set and the kind of conversations they have I know there is hope for Boy child!! We see you and we appreciate you.

Jules is soo intelligent. I love her

Absolutely love the flow. No one is talking over the other, respectful and yet you are 7 whole people.

Everytime I watch Jules talking, I cant help but admire how real and intelligent she is! I love this episode😊

Ivy is looking superb 👌...outfit, makeup drop dead gorgeous girl

The way Ivy looks at Eli, like a good small brother

When Georgie called Jules Baby! Oh,my heart!!!!! Love to see it!

I agree with Georgie there is just something about a woman who has her stuff together ,not only finances but also self presentation etc so attractive

'Successful people smell nice.' My high school teacher used to say. I can relate to Georgie talking about smell in between conversations.

In a conversation with my friends we found out that most of us our first experiences were not overtly consensual. And in those blurred lines were young girls who had never planned to be in those positions in the first place. Leading from Georgie's story, I think its important for ManTalk Ke as the male thought leaders of our time to address this question of non-consensual sex as men, especially first time sex or drunk sex. And to put tyre to the road on what vulnerability REALLY looks like.

My mum was in the HIV space and she made it her mission to educate us and all her friends/families children. First time she intentionally had the bird and the bees conversation with us was after church. She bundled all my "cousins" to our house and we watched some of the tapes she used to educate communities on HIV. Then after we had a conversation. As time went on she incorporated a session in the teens and youth sessions in church especially during the holidays. When we got older (campus) she would give my male friends/ neighbour's condoms and make sure they knew her door was open to have a conversation and /or if they needed a restock. Great job with this episode!!!

God, I love Georgie! Such a wholesome being.

Okay, Ivy's outfit and make-up!🔥🔥

Can we please have part 2😭. Great minds. The conversation was gold. I enjoyed every second of the podcast

1:09:02 Ivy Clapping Them Hands For Shiko Like That's My Bestie. Go Bestie.💛 This Was Heavily Loaded And Very Informative. Thank You All.🎉

NOW THIS IS A PODCAST. Informative, respectful, and we'll leveled voices.

The "Nimechill" advert was my first experience of knowing that abstinence was cool. If not for that advert i probably would have had sex too soon. Mainstream media is very influential especially on young adults and teens. I'm glad i abstained. This is a great podcast and i hope we can see more of Mantalk and Over25

I love Ivy so much. She's smart, strong, focused, driven. Aaah !

Jules is a beautiful and real soul!

You know its gonna be lit when you have Georgie, mantalk and over 25 together. Thank you for the great conversation guys.

Oscar gets lost in his conversations sometimes.

Every time i always want to say this but i find it hard comment but today i had to say that Jules is absolutely beautiful...like damn...if i ever meet you I'll tell it to you on your face because damn aren't you beautiful!

That moment when Jules explained having to strategically place the condoms (under pillows) so they are within reach, and Oscar laughing deeply is 'television gold'. 🤣 I almost fell off my seat. Like surely, why are we doing all these acrobatics as if safety isn't a priority for all involved? A much needed conversation. Not just for Kenya but also a lot of African societies where talking about sex is taboo or frowned upon. Y'all are doing the Lord's work.

And yes yes yes women are supposed to be chosen. We are chosen! That’s the normal way. We only get to choose after we’ve been chosen. We don’t get to choose first and we shouldn’t really. A man will choose you as a woman and then you decide whether you’ll accept him that’s where women get to choose.

Its definitely true that gen z doesnt fear HIV... the conversation definitely needs to be aired early enough.

This conversation had so many gems! Not just sexual performance, interests in relationships, how relationships have evolved, intimacy versus intercourse, financial situations for both men and women. I loved this! I am so curious do men become more attracted to women who have higher financial status as they get older? My experience has been so different, I have heard men want to feel needed and for us independent women( financially) I find there’s a struggle to signify that need. Simply because we can do/provide for ourselves and do so often.

As Lorelai said, "A guy having money is like a girl being pretty. You might not marry a girl just because she's pretty, but it sure does help!"

How Jules looks at Oscar and How Eli looks at Ivy😄🤭Can't be the only one who noticed this. Especially in the first few minutes

Jules and Oscar would make a beautiful couple 💑 😇

At 16:40 I like how they all agree with Eli in unison Yeeeaaaahh like as if they're in a choir ,he must have hit the nail on the head

This was such an insightful conversation. The goal for my channel, is to be as bold in my truth as y'all are❤️. Loved the episode. As a Marketing major, I like how you managed to push the brand without being so much 'in the audience's face'. Y'all are such good vibes. Synergy on 💯. Manifesting this for my channel 🕯️🕯️🕯️. Y'all are dope ❤️

My favorite people in one set. I love you guys so much. 💙 💙 💙 Now, men need to understand that sex is something you do with a woman. Not to a woman... That's where the problem begins... Also, not all people love sex. When we understand this, we shall explore other forms of intimacy in our romantic relationships... Women have been shamed for having sex for so long. It's like we are not supposed to have or want sex... Im happy for such conversations. They are opening doors to sexual freedom and safe sex.

This is such a crucial conversation. There really are no condom ads like there used to be as Lornzie pointed out. It feels like the concern amongst Gen Z is only pregnancy because most of them don't want kids, and even so they are more open to abortion than previous generations. So there's a lot of recklessness that needs to be addressed.

Imagine what the outcome would be when Man Talk Ke and Over 25 decide to drop an Urban Tv Show.

Jules' IQ is polished and it effortlessly shows....She got the 'Ooh wow' perspectives

As Gen z, yes i don't relate with those sites but this was such an eye opening and triggering conversation.

I love what Jules said about buying condoms. I still buy, carry and have condoms with me. 😊😊😊😊😊🤣🤣🤣🤣. Best thing one can have for themselves as a lady. Some people ( both ladies and gentlemen) don't appreciate lady who carries or has own condoms. It's unfortunate

Waah! Jules, your wisdom knows no bound.❤

Would love another episode of all of you again but this time add Bien aimé too🔥🔥🔥

I love Ivy’s outfit😻

The way Ivy is looking at Eli!!!!

There is something in my gut...a big gut feeeeeeeeeeeeling that Jules and Georgie can make a perfect couple...Too bad relationships are not formed on my gut feeling.But Georgie pleaseeee try something with Jules...shoot your shot...There is something good here..#loveyouall.

I’d love another episode where all of you are together,I loved this one too

I think for me as a Healthcare professional, I think that we have a heavy duty to be educating everyone who rolls through the hospitals or clinical setting about sex and how to protect themselves.

This conversation was great. Clarifies so many misconceptions about sex and intimacy. When Ivy mentioned about types of initimacy i quickly related

Possibly one of the best episodes. You guys should have more episodes together. Always wholesome...and the humor is on point as well.👍💯

Jules is just super beautiful 💖

Wow. The flow of this conversation is everything to me. I thought it might be noisy because of the number but I was exclusively disapproved. Great Minds. Definitely thirsty for more from the three 🥂

Did Georgie just call Jules baby at 1:00:58. It sounded so niiice

I can listen to Georgie Ndirangu all day

Before having the knowledge on it...the responsibility is everyone's to teach on the safety precautions to take during sex including using a condom...(starting from parents...older siblings...schools...churches... government...)but immediately you have the information and are old enough to apply it...the responsibility is YOUR'S!!!❤️

Please bring Georgie around more often ❤️

What a great conversation, and I love the conversations in the comments section too! Thank you for the duty of care to the next generation on safe sex education. I hope it is taken up with more tenacity , and on more platforms because we just need to village-in the next generation too.

This was such an insightful and intimate conversation. Youthful spaces give a chance to openly talk about sex, however, having such talks with kids and teenagers at their level is something that parents and adults also need to learn. Otherwise, this conversation made me know the things I never knew I didn't know. Love.

Daamn, this was a deep dive kinda conversation, the authenticity and vulnerability in it is just incredible. Good job ManTalk

You guys are just a vibe, we need more of this all of you..

Sex was created by God for a husband and wife to enjoy it in the context of marriage. Singles abstain and honor God with your bodies (Genesis 39:9).

Georgie’s ‘Warrrap’ took me out😂😂😂

This has been very insightful and eye-opening. When I was 14, my mom had "the talk" with me. I wanted the earth to open and swallow me then, but now I'm more than glad she did. She told me I could always go to her if anything happened, like if someone took advantage of me or I got carried away. Her open-mindedness is something I hope to emulate with my children. Knowing I had her backing helped me abstain and stay out of potentially dangerous situations.

I've got to say, Eli's meticulous and articulate nature to subjects is goals. I enjoy Georgie's wit and perspectives I literally follow him everywhere to see what he's got in mind. P.S Just on media platforms 😊

When Jules_her keeps referring to hip hop lyrics and Oscar relating 😋😚and knowing they're both on theee journey My ship HER_OS is definitely sailing 🥂🥂

Had this discussion on the background while doing some work and I'm sure as h** going to watch it again with much needed attention. It's broad and so insightful.

Thank you so much team for this information,i would love to hear more of this. I wish it was possible to subscribe twice. Anyway i have the notification bell on.

Just Ivy is just beautiful!

Without moving forward with Eli's question at around 34/40 min the judgements come from both EQUALLY!!

Thank you for this all participating performers hehehe. Enjoyed and learnt alot. Love from UG 🇺🇬.

Bravo! Now, this priceless information that every young person needs to hear. Growing, I honestly never got a chance to know all this. It was all self discovery and googling! I can relate with most of the panelists' experience. Good job ladies and gentlemen!

How Georgie's face changes when lornzie says broke men have nothing else to offer 😂

Middle of ma-munju munju...loved this episode🤍

Sex education is well taught in the British school system . I wish our Kenyan system can move a notch higher because the statistics are mind blowing.

Great conversation. I believe it should be a mandatory course taught in schools...I live in the States, and here we were taught in 11th grade which is equivalent to form 3. This was about over 16yrs ago when I was in high school. Although, I believe they have changed the curriculum and begin touching on the subject a little sooner now, I believe 7 or 8th grade as kids have begun to be curious early. (It might not be as deep in depth as they do in 11th grade) I worked with children as a swim coach and the stories I would hear were bonkers! I mean we are talking 11- 16yrs of age. The Ministry of Education has a responsibility to educate and parents need to follow up and have the conversations early. I'm a Mom of Two both boy and girl and I promise myself to make sure I have these conversations with them. (My parents didn't) I was just told "don't get pregnant and don't get AIDS!" I am with shikii I may not know how, but I'll make sure to find out how. I learnt soo much from Ivy and Shikii's episode with the child psychologist... I would request that they continue with the Issamotherhood platform and continue with that informative content. Oh how I miss it. I think that's what it was called.

The question abt the coloration between money and sex depends on where you are in your journey.

Mamunju munju 😂😂😂😂 Man I've laughed so hard. Wah! Jules now like I feel really old. This conversation is needed especially with this young generation. I loved how you guys did it.

I loved every bit of it..such beautiful minds!👏👏👏

Love the episode and the balanced discussion. Please work on the sound

I love this team! I enjoyed the conversation. Very Educative!!

Georgie and Jules please😏

This was such An amazing conversation…thank you so much for sharing .

Loved this conversation and the openness of it all. We need more of these happening

Amazing conversation. We have youth friendly facilities funded by local and international donors that educate and provide SRHR ( sexual reproductive health & rights) and we have young people who are champions of this. I’m one of them. At county level we have tried to develop policies on the same . The only challenge is that this is not allowed in schools . We use the youth friendly spaces , inter-generational baraza and youth dialogues . The main challenge is also funding and sustainability

I'm still stuck there at Mamunjumunju....I like it! This talk should have happened during my teenage!

I love George.. I don't know why?😂😂😂😂😂

The schools I attended invited sexual educators back then. The focus was mostly on HIV/AIDS, but there was general reproductive health too. So glad I learnt so much at a tender age(I’m talking 10 yrs old onwards). However, I wish my parents were not shy discussing it, they bought us books instead and had that ‘don’t get pregnant’ talk. Today, I feel empowered to have those discussions with my daughters. I have learnt a lot from Mantalk, Over twenty five and Georgie. Keep up the good work. Durex, increase their budget so they can have more outreach and sessions on this.

There are non governmental programs in Kenya focusing on pregnancy and HIV prevention that have good curriculums on sex Ed. I work in one and it's clear that we have a lot to do. Loved this!

The sound is good. I appreciate that.

This is my favourite episode this season...kudos guys

I genuinely feel that your experiences on sex is very different from to mine. And as a lady I can confidently say that some men are way over their head, especially when it comes to use of condom.

I love George ugh😍

ABSOLUTELY the conversations we need to have.

I looooooooove this conversations so much am addicted all of you soo wise sooo deep soo deep so informative witty ily all please do this more and more have this comnined podcasts weekly sooo cute

I love the art in the background. Could you let us in on the artist’s name 👩‍🎨?

Very interesting talk. Although it is the worldly norm to have sex outside of marriage it is morally wrong just as we all agree a lack of integrity is morally wrong so is sex outside marriage. It falls in that big basket of immoral acts. Casual sex and unintentional dating is a mindset we must distance ourselves from. I understand the western world is a prosperous world in many aspects but not all that glitters is gold. Not all that is embedded in their culture and world view is worth embracing. We must be wise with what we practice and so confidently and passionately champion for. Yes you can look up to the western world and seek inspiration and better ways from them,for they are prosperous in many ways but only take and do that which is wise.

My God ..I love Georgie😊Anyway lots of love from UG🇺🇬

Ivy with the money pointers Everytime 😂😂

It's both the male's and female's responsibility, thank you for the wonderful episode

Are we just gonna ignore that George called Jules_her baby? They are definitely boo'd up 😊and am here for it! Otherwise, great conversation as usual. Loved it!!

This just shows how schools need to have a comprehensive sexuality based education curriculum instead of the basic life skills training that is there. I wonder if the government will wake up because the data is alarming and we are in a crisis.

I remember waptrick and wapdam😅oh my days...Loved this episode😊

Condoms are cheaper than diapers. Ain’t that the truth Ivy 🙌