The Bizarre Interceptor That Accidentally Broke the Sound Barrier 

I had one of those toys too!

The commentary is so irritating I never finish his post.

@@derekhutton9855 Sorry that my recollections of the Gloster Javelin triggered you and irritated you so much. Perhaps you should've finished my reading my comment. JJS

Not necessarily, all modern ejection seats have leg restraints that automatically pull the Pilot/Nav/EWO etc etc legs back as part of the ejection seat sequence, but, you could be correct in your case as leg restraints might not have been introduced at that stage in seat systems, I know that they were introduced fairly early on in the development advancement process as it was realised that unrestrained legs were going to be flailing around causing considerable injuries to occur to the seat occupant.

@@allandavis8201 You cannot physically take a limb that is longer than a certain length... and crush it back to the "correct" length with a pyrotechnic "tensioner".... It just won't work. If you tried that with a leg from knee to pelvis you would shatter the pelvis or the knee...and/or take the kneecap off on the dashboard during the ejection..... Ball gunners on B17s had to be of small stature... Early jet fighter pilots had to be less than 5ft 9 inches tall otherwise they couldn't fit under the dome of the cocpit with their bone domes (helmets)....... When designers rethough their designs taller pilots and longer legged WSOs were able to fit in a " larger" cockpit.

@@JohnSmith-pl2bk , I’m unsure what you are trying to say, I have only ever known ejection seats that employed a leg restraint system that pulled the pilots legs back to the seat to stop them flailing around and causing massive injuries to the legs, they were not controlled by pyrotechnics they were a mechanical device that activated as the seat traveled up its rails, even in that tiny window of time the pilots legs were pulled back to stop them hitting anything in the cockpit and the effect of flailing.

@@allandavis8201 This is an early jet. No leg restraints. No physical space for the longer leg to get past the dashboard. So short legged backseaters were needed.

@@JohnSmith-pl2bk According to the Martin Baker website the Mk 3js ejector seat fitted to the Javelin DID have leg restraints, no arm restraints but, and you can see the leg restraint lanyards in their photographs, definitely did.

Flight of the phoenix😊

Field Marshall tractors...YT vids available. It is a mixture that needs to be hand loaded today smokeless and black powder/black powder substitute.... just a gas generator... the high volume drives the piston down and the flywheel takes over to keep the rotation going....

Its also how the British designed B-57 / Canberra started it engines.

So a completely new aircraft ??

*Due to a fatal design flaw, the Vulcan would pitch down violently into a death dive if it reached Mach 1, a Mach limiter device was installed on all Vulcans to stop them from crashing.*

​@@sandervanderkammen9230 It wasn't a fatal design flaw that caused a limiter requirement, the Vulcan wasn't designed to exceed Mach 1.

@petemaly8950 *The Vulcan is the world's only plane with a supersonic Delta wing that cannot fly supersonic.*

@@sandervanderkammen9230 The Vulcan did not have a supersonic delta wing. There was no attempt at the time to produce a supersonic bomber when designing the Vulcan..

@@petemaly8950 *So you didn't know that the Vulcan has a supersonic thrust to drag ratio???* *Every Vulcan was equipped with a Mach limiter device.*

Sorry, I lost that part of the video Would you mind, please, to describe it better for us? :)

True with early Hunters, very much so, but the later ones were rather quick! The last mark broke mach 1 plus another 230mph! But, yes, your early memories are almost certainly right for the time.

Maybe that's the one at nearby Gloucester's Jet Age Museum?

XH767 is at the Yorkshire Air Museum at Elvington.

The V2 arrived and exploded, a little later the sound of its terminal descent arrived. The V1 had its characteristic pulse engine sound, the really scary bit was when the bastxxd went silent as it was now tumbling out of the sky and the Argus pulse jet had stopped. Around one ton of boosted HE on its way to any (un)grateful recipients. So yes there would have been a certain sensitivity to sounds from the sky.

Britain struggled to build supersonic aircraft... only one ever entered production.

Not clear where the struggle bit comes in, perhaps you would explain further. The UK produced a number of supersonic technology demonstrators throughout the 1950/60s including the Fairey Delta FD2 and the Bristol 188. Take a hard look at both, they might remind you of a couple of aircraft that did enter mass production elsewhere. Earlier Miles had an aircraft in preparation intended to be the first anywhere (intentionally) through the sound barrier, it included the first all flying tail plane, technology that turned up in another aircraft that was mass produced. The money ran out and the technology was subsequently gifted to the US. The UK certainly had the technology and aeronautical science to develop advanced aircraft. However, what the UK did do was design aircraft and build the ones needed to meet its specific defence needs. What the RAF wanted was a quick reaction fighter with a sufficient speed, rate of climb and ceiling to meet with incoming threats before they were in range to do any serious mischief. Enter the English Electric Lightning P1 based on a number of technology demonstrators built by Shorts of Belfast. If you have built what is needed to more than meet your spec why build more? The exception to this was they did build four types of strategic nuclear bombers by four different manufacturers, namely the Sperrin, the Valiant, the Vulcan and the Victor. Each represented a sequential advance in technology and associated risk, look on it as rolling insurance policies against failure and taking no chances with delivering nuclear weapons. Again, where does the struggle bit come in?

@TheArgieH Please spare us the British revisionist propaganda drivel... Britain lagged a decade behind Germany and America in supersonic aerospace technology. Never in history has there been so much discussion regarding a fictional aircraft that never existed. When the M.52 scandal broke, Ministry auditors raided Miles Aircraft and found nothing more than incomplete drawings and a partially constructed wooden mock-up of the cockpit section. No evidence of the two prototype aircraft were ever found, nor the money paid to build them. Miles Aircraft was charged by the Crown Court with 24 counts of fraud and embezzlement. Frank Whittle was arrested and discharged from the RAF amid allegations of extorsion, embezzlement, and derliction of duty. He was removed from his own company the same week the M.52 program was canceled and was exiled to a drug rehab in America to spare the new Labour government any further embarrassment. Britain attempted several research aircraft that were notable failures like the Fairey Delta and the Bristol 188, but no follow on production aircraft would emerge until the English Electric "Aluminium Death Tube" The Messerschmitt Me-262 is the first jet aircraft with a fly-by-wire Horizontal Stabilator system to counteract the effects of compressability and Mach tuck at high transsonic speeds and the first aircraft to go supersonic in a dive (and not crash) The UK no longer manufactures its own jet aircraft, it buys them from foreign aircraft manufacturers or builds foreign designs under license.

The world's first jet aircraft to exceed 1000 mph was in fact the Fairey Delta 2 breaking the record by 300 mph & holding the record for nearly a year.

The Lightning was the only true supersonic military aircraft.. Known by RAF pilots as the "Alumimium death tube"

​@@sandervanderkammen9230 The lightening was not referred to as the aluminium death tube by RAF pilots.

@petemaly8950 *Only by HALF of RAF pilots called it that... the Other Half were killed by the **_"Aluminium Death Tube"_*

@@sandervanderkammen9230 ​ *Krappenz & co - they should note well with great deference, infinite revererance & extreme awestruckness.* *_The English Electric Lightening was not referred to as the aluminium death tube by any RAF pilots, anywhere at anytime._* _Accident losses for the ENGLISH Electric Lightening were lower than many other commercial & military aircraft._ *C H E E R S* & *_Toodle_* *-PIP-* *Old* _Chap_ 😎👍

@@petemaly8950 *58% loss rate is the worst jet aircraft in history.*

Yes, but they couldn't hold 250 gallons each.

Especially considering the Gloster Meatbox was the worst jet fighter in history... mediocre at best, typical british jet.

@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke Compared with what other jets? As one of the first examples of this technology it was primitive obviously. All the early models were.

@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke Compared with what other jets? As one of the first examples of this technology it was primitive obviously. All the early models were.

@@robinwells8879 Britain lagged years behind in aircraft technology, its jets were outdated, unreliable and had staggering loss rates. British jets were so bad that operators refused to buy them anymore and the UK aircraft industry collapsed.

@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke perhaps in the universe that you inhabit!😉. Remind me, what was the TBO for an early BMW turbo jet engine as fitted to the 262? 10 hours was it? Fantastic engine geometry and aerodynamics but a severely underdeveloped engine. These were early days and all manufacturers had teething problems. Russian Migs were only able to fly because of reverse engineered RR engines sold to them. The USA only had the technology that they stole from the defeated Luftwaffe and the engines that they were given by the UK. Nascent technology.

Nothing bizarre about it at all, the video author couldn't come up with something reasonably interesting, informative & factual.

@@petemaly8950 LOL :)

The titty tanks lol

We 'Muricans would likely call them "Mae Wests"! 😅

She had some tanks.

the Tornado is a German aircraft

​@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke They were/are multinational. The Germans ain't getting all the credit for the lovely Tonka🇬🇧🇮🇹🇩🇪😊

I think you need a trip to Soecsavers.

@@richardsawyer5428 _Panavia Aircraft GmbH._ (Formerly known as Messerschmitt) is a German aircraft manufacturer headquartered in Munich Germany... the Tornado is not a British aircraft.

@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke it was a joint effort, but yes, it was primarily produced there.

Before World War II ended. Two American pre-production Lockheed YP-80A Shooting Star fighter jets saw limited service in Italy with the USAAF on reconnaissance, and possibly interception in February and March 1945.

The Gloster Meatbox only served in the ground attack role and only killed British pilots during WW2.

​@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerkeAnother constructive comment I see. What's your problem?

​@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke so how did it manage to shoot down 14 V1 flying bombs ? . The reason it was used for ground attack towards to end of the war was probably because there weren't alot of German aircraft left to to shooting down😅 its biggest threat was from friendly ground fire who thought it wasza 262. . Please do more research before making silly comments. . . If it was so bad how come the RAF used it until the 1980s ? .

@@tompiper9276 Just the facts here lad. What's your problem son? Are you one of those woke little snowflakes that can't handle hearing the truth?

Before World War II ended, however, two American pre-production Lockheed YP-80A Shooting Star fighter jets saw limited service in Italy with the USAAF on reconnaissance, and possibly interecption in February and March 1945. Who cares if the were protoypes? Anal much? YP-80 was a P-80 was it not? It wasn't something else.

The Gloster Meatbox was a disappointing failure as a fighter and only saw RAF service in the ground attack, reconnaissance and training roles during WW2. z

​@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerkeIt intercepted V1 over South East England. Variants were used as night fighters too. The RAAF used them in the Korean War, but as you say, they weren't great against MiG15s but technically they were fighters.

@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke Don’t forget the interception mission to bring down the V1 “Wunder Waffen” it was one of the few RAF aircraft that could catch up with them a destroy them before they got to their target 🎯, and don’t forget that the “Meatbox” was the first of the jet fighter era aircraft, engines that only just had more power than some of the very late piston engine fighters, obviously being a very new concept it was difficult to have any other designs to compare it to, really the only aircraft was the ME-262, but I don’t think we got our hands on one of those until the very end of the war, personally I also think it was a bit of a disappointment to the RAF and the Pilots, but the development of new aircraft and engines moved that quickly and anything new would almost certainly be far better than the Meteor ☄️ not just in speed but aerodynamics, equipment and reliability, but it was still an aircraft that Great Britain 🇬🇧 could and should be proud of, it meant that we were ahead of everyone, except the Germans, in the jet powered aircraft industry, and if that isn’t a reason for pride then I don’t know what is. Thanks for taking the time to respond to my comment, much appreciated. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇺🇦

@@UkrainianPaulie I’m sorry if I offended you regarding my comment, but to be an “operational” aircraft it can’t be a “prototype” or even a “pre production” aircraft, in fact I don’t know what “Pre production” really means, what does it mean?, if you think being patriotic and proud of my country, Great Britain 🇬🇧, then yes I am “Anal” in my opinion, would you accept someone changing the history of your country? (America I presume) the history of WWII and the contribution your country made in defeating the Axis Powers? and any other historical FACTS that were relegated in importance or whitewashed out altogether?, I don’t think you would be a happy bunny if that was done, on a consistent basis, to your country, or would you lie and say you didn’t care?.

It was considered a response to Waterton's claim, after he left the company, that the Javelin could not go supersonic. It was impossible to "accidentally" exceed the speed of sound as it required a 40 degree dive at full power.

Not for,but because of a piece of crap.

in 1960 there were 14 Javelin squadrons in service plue a huge OCU and only one Javelin crew were killed when the aircraft flew through cloud into a hill. The Javelin had a superb safety record in service with the fatalities mainly down to pilot error, including a USA pilot who attempted a prohibited loop on his farewell aerobatics.

Cough cough all countries have produced planes that only their mothers could love……

*Thankfully Britain no longer makes its own jet planes...*

​@@sandervanderkammen9230 *_Muncherz Krappenz DiktorBummer KARZEESTAN Jurkzxoffenzstadt & co - they should all note with much awestruckness and great wonderment obviously._* ***** *Indeed - How come they can't answer simple questions - why is that?* ***** *_DID SOMEBODY ACTUALLY SAY SOMEWHERE THAT THERE'S AIRLINER ASSEMBLY LINES OR SIMILAR IN THE UK OR IRELAND OR THAT Airbus or BOW-WING is actually British? (B-47 wings on many occasions folded up in flight or dropped off while parked)._* Of course Brazil makes very good airliners & Brazil is 100th down list along with Indonesia for wealth per capita. *Norway Holland Denmark Ireland Belgium - Top 20 wealth per capita - Don't make airliners - its as simple as that.* BAe Systems & RR combined now do more Airbus work than Germany on an absolute basis & significantly more work than that on a per capita basis. Per capita for the home nation BAe Systems is the world's largest defence contractor. _BAe systems announced the recent £4 Billion takeover of Colorado based US based Ball Aerospace._ *BAE systems now does a significantly higher value of work for Airbus than it did when it was a major Airbus shareholder before 2005.* *_RR now owns US Engine maker Allison for example which does classified Aerospace work for the US Govt._* The UK has more important stuff to do these days. _Routine simple passenger aircraft airframe assembly is becoming more of a 3rd world / trailer park area thing._ EG - *_The DH Comet - world's first high altitude capable pressurised passenger cabin jet airliner in regular service, world's first jet airliner aircraft to cross the Atlantic, worlds first jet airliner aircraft to complete a global circumnavigation flight series._* *They might try to sensibly answer this question - why do they believe that BAE Systems & RR (aero engines etc) & other companies, for example should be doing anything other than what they currently do & where do they get the idea from that the DH Comet had any affect at all on the progression UK aerospace sector.* *Anybody currently flying on a widebody airliner stands a good chance of being on an aircraft powered by RR gas turbine aero engines built in England.* 📯📯📯📯 *The New RR Trent Ultrafan* *Built In England* *_World's Largest (see T&Cs)_* *_Gas Turbine Aero Engine_* 📯📯📯📯 👍Manufactured by the people on a small island with less than 1% of the world's population.👍 *_A typical but small glimpse of what goes on in the very internationally orientated British aerospace sector._* - Boeing Apache Attack Helicopter. AH-64: *75 UK suppliers,* 7% UK content, global fleet of 1280+ aircraft. *F35B more than 130 UK Suppliers, more than 30% UK content.* *_F35A & F35C more than 130 UK Suppliers, more than 15% UK content._* They might like to answer these questions. *Which airline has just ordered* *60 RR England Trent XWB Engines* *& What aircraft are the engines for?* _Bonus question for 10 extra points._ Which country has the *World's Highest Combined Per Capita* *Nuclear / Defence / Aerospace Sector Activity?* 👍 & 🙂 & of course 😎 indeed. Cheers. _Toodle_ -PIP- *Old* *_Chap._* . ... . . ..... . . ... . . ... . ..... ccicci vivvixxixxiccicci