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The Black and the White Guardian meet and clash. Taken from the episode "Enlightenment."
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@GrandHighGamer 7 лет назад

"My hair is a bird; your argument is invalid." "Ha, my hair is also a bird; your argument is more invalid."

@thedavecorp 6 лет назад

Gradius FLIP the bird.

@Silverwind87 6 лет назад

"Stalemate."

@LEOxuan 5 лет назад

Does it say that in the episode?

@reversethepolarityoftheneu773 5 лет назад

LEOxuan no

@fastertrackcreative 14 дней назад

🤣

@richardgregory3684 2 года назад

_Enlightenment_ contains one of the best bits of dialogue in the show's history; "You are a time lord. A lord of time, Are there lords in such a small domain?" "and where do you function?" "Eternity. The endless wastes of eternity" The Eternals are a brilliant conception.

@LordZontar 5 лет назад

"You look ridiculous wearing a pigeon on your head." "That's rich coming from someone wearing a burnt chicken on his."

@oscarl.ramirez7355 7 месяцев назад

U make me Laugh

@woohooboy 10 лет назад

Technically speaking, the Guardians are more powerful than the Time Lords themselves. They exist outside the boundaries of time and space and have abilities to reshape and change events if need be........ It would be very interesting to see if they are reincorporated back into the show again.......

@alexjames4507 10 лет назад

And if the Doctor does indeed find Gallifrey, then they could meet (Time Lords and the Guardians), and we would then see what happens between the two.

@twilightzoneseinfeld 10 лет назад

It's Obvious.

@alexjames4507 10 лет назад

The two meeting?

@AGO339 10 лет назад

the black guardian did swear to return after his second defeat, and he has the freedom to return any time

@alexjames4507 10 лет назад

If the Master doesn't return in the current Season (which there's a 90% chance he won't), it would be intresting to see if the Black Guardian does, though like the Master, I doubt it.

@jamesbevan9939 7 лет назад

They really need to bring the Guardians back. Make it a season-long arc, have them test the Doctor to see if his actions guide the course of the universe more towards Order or Chaos.

@LewysC 6 лет назад

James Bevan Agreed

@willpower5789 6 лет назад

RTD was good at season long arcs - Torchwood, Saxon etc.

@LewysC 6 лет назад

Will Power He left subtle hints each episode some bigger than others. And by the time the finale came around the audience was ready and built up for it. In contrast, I think Moffat just goes too far with his season finales and makes every episode about them which is too much in my opinion.

@nickmullerITFC78 Год назад

I agree need to bring back massively 🚜🚜🚜🚜

@synchronicity-thelanguageo3991 4 месяца назад

@@nickmullerITFC78 It is heading in that direction by the looks of it.

@lavaskater4715 8 лет назад

It would've been funnier if the birds on their heads were still alive

@TheSkully343 7 лет назад

"*CRAW!!* Death to the humans, *CRAW!!!*"

@adambesley4455 6 лет назад

"It's so stimulating being your hat."

@krathoon2338 4 года назад

The would be great to do in a parody.

@andykey78 3 года назад

But...what if the birds were the real Gaurdians!? And the bodies were just puppets. This whole scene could have been between the birds...😂

@davidthedeaf 3 года назад

CGI: they look dead, then one preens

@DB7driver 5 лет назад

What an amazing scene from my favourite story of my favourite Doctor. I was only a teenager but the metaphysics got to me here. This clip ends... SPOILERS... before the crucial moment. Teagan is having kittens, the Doctor is zen passive and trusts Turlough to make the right choice. And when he does, and she demands "You trust him because he gave up enlightenment for you?!" He calmly tells her she's missing the point: "Enlightenment wasn't the diamond; it was the choice." Gold.

@ShamrockParticle 10 лет назад

So they wear birds on their heads. Ancient religions show people with heads or hats of animal visage as well. In the Doctor Who universe, humans may have seen a Guardian visiting for whatever reason and liked the allusion so much they adopted it.

@leslieshafer6343 4 года назад

Yes, cowls with actual animal heads or with the animals likeness have been worn. But THESE particular ones look at least somewhat ridiculous. But kudos to the wardrobe people on the show for trying something different.

@MrCaerbannog 7 лет назад

1:52 - See, Tegan can be tactful when the need calls for it. She managed to just say "I can't." instead of "I can't. Not that I'd do anything even if I could, because you're just really, REALLY creepy."

@spartybrearly7221 11 месяцев назад

Mr Marriner seemed to have genuine feelings for Tegan.

@Agui007 10 лет назад

Valentine Dyall played the part magnificently! As did Cyril Luckham.

@RealTreyOlds 7 лет назад

Agui007 Dyall was going to be the doctor

@jardon8636 7 лет назад

the guardians could return in the future, its not impossible but both dyall & luckham are not with us in 2017, and it would be a unbelivable story too explain the recent time war...

@squallrowlandson8028 Год назад

Before Master Xehanort and Master Eraqus there was the Black and White Guardians as the embodiments of dark and light.

@Foebane72 2 года назад

The Black Guardian has an AWESOME voice!

@baileeparkes9316 Год назад

Valentine Dyall, one of the best voice actors of all time

@sweiland75 11 лет назад

I hate when people are incapable of thinking abstract. We will NOT learn the name of the Doctor. I think it may be spoken but we will not hear it because it is unpronounceable to humans.

@KenoshiAkai 7 лет назад

Turlough has some frightening eyebrows in that closeup.

@librarian66 6 лет назад

Ah...the Black and White Guardians! I always liked those guys.

@thedavecorp 6 лет назад

"Enlightenment was the CHOICE."

@AndrewChapman 9 лет назад

2:57 I would just have the TARDIS.

@AndrewChapman 7 лет назад

lol

@hub5343 2 года назад

This episode is one of my favourites. It speaks to the inherent fear in all of us, that we may exist in a wasteland of eternity. Yes we are mortal, but this episode lays bare that the very consciousness we have is floating, without absoluteness or reference, in a void of eternal nothing. When dancing delicately between the extremes of death and immortality, between existence and nothing, between meaning and irrelevance, we all know at the bottom of our hearts that we are a combination of all - it both comforts and frightens us.

@pandaphil 11 лет назад

The Guardians would be great characters to bring back for the new series.

@lintonkenneally7954 6 лет назад

R.I.P. Keith Barron (8 August 1934 - November 2017).

@Agui007 4 года назад

What I love about the classics were they were host to very distinguished actors.

@Theskymaster210 4 года назад

Came here right after tonight's episode mentioned the Guardians.

@josephwood8274 4 года назад

Same and the toy maker

@rudenotginger123 4 года назад

Which episode was that?

@PoliceAlarm 3 года назад

@@rudenotginger123 Can You Hear Me?

@Nyxiality 5 лет назад

Valantine is EXTREMELY good with his voice! You can really feel his evil when he plays an evil person!

@arguspanoptes9510 3 года назад

He did star as The Man in Black

@flaggerify 3 года назад

Deep Thought.

@codemeister26 2 года назад

Yes he was a good actor. Valentine Dyall is now dead unfortunately. He died in 1985 or 1986.

@Thelostsubrosian 3 года назад

Its high time the black and white guardians returned. Let Jodie Whittaker deal with them.

@SeanWhite-by8uj Год назад

Basically Christmas with the family

@Eltonlaleham 2 года назад

The white guardian was right when he warned the dr to be viligant that the black guardian will try again

@LibraGamesUnlimited 10 лет назад

Wonder where they are now? I know the current Doctor mentioned Enlightenment in the Sherwood Forest episodes (like the thought they might be around) so perhaps they're still around somewhere.

@VJFranzK 5 месяцев назад

You can find them by meditating! ☯😉

@LibraGamesUnlimited 5 месяцев назад

@@VJFranzK Good to know.

@TheSkully343 7 лет назад

1:24 That musical piece however brief feels so alien to the Classic Series. It's so ominous yet at the same time feels as if it'd be more at home in a Horror movie from the 2000s.

@mainstreetsaint36 9 месяцев назад

"I leave the lies and deception to you!" genteel manners, yet savage burn. No Doctor was ever quite like Peter Davison's.

@Monkofmagnesia 11 лет назад

You can have your enlightenment. I'll take Tegan!

@kallemattila5870 7 лет назад

Ah, the classic look of bright light on videotape.

@Timelord2001 4 года назад

Instead of bird heads (or are those bird hats?), the two guardians would've looked better the way we first initially saw the White Guardian in part 1 of "The Ribos Operation" (at the start of the Key to Time stories), where he appeared a little like an old fashioned Southern plantation owner. More regal and dignified.

@vrass775 4 года назад

You mean where he appears as Colonel Sanders just without the fried chicken spiel.

@ThatCringeCalledIggleboz 7 лет назад

Plot twist: the Black Guardian is The Trickster.

@kingcrimson1467 5 лет назад

Who would play the White and Black guardians in the New Series? I would choose Antony Hopkins as the White Guardian and Ralph Fieness as the Black Guardian

@scl1332 5 лет назад

Wait a minute The Doctor and Turlough totally killed the Wrack ,I think was her name, and her first mate overboard 10th Doctor: damn I give up

@The_Lost_Subrosian Год назад

The white guardian hinted at the next encounter. However, we are still waiting for it.

@brianp6682 Год назад

maybe it already happened. maybe in the guardians timeline, Enlightenment happened first and the Key to Time season happened last.

@AndrewMorrisDE1972 11 лет назад

an intriguing end to the trilogy involving the two Guardians and the Eternals of the Whoverse

@Whofan06 11 лет назад

The leaf was a beautiful symbol! Clara isn't literally a leaf, but that leaf is responsible for her parents meeting and thus her existence (romance tends to focus on the little things. couple songs would be rubbish too if they didn't) The theme park wasn't for Cybermen, they hid there because they needed children's minds or whatever to upgrade, and where else would you find the most children? And what do you mean "Willy Wonka" ? :/

@LordTalax 8 лет назад

Dark can exist without light just fine, look at the universe, plenty of it.

@hagamapama 8 лет назад

Without light dark is undefined. Without darkness light is undefined. Without the other, each exists without point of reference and become meaningless.

@thugpizzle.2513 8 лет назад

there is still light in space.

@Damitux 11 лет назад

I want more episodes of Doctors 5 6 and 7.

@Andyfilms100 11 лет назад

i still think enlightenment should have been a 6 parter, as it was the 20th season and since it was bringing back the classic monsters at the time, they could have had a 6 parter like the previous doctors, as i thought enlightenment was rushed towards the end just to cram it into a 4 parter, whereas it could have easily been spread out and look better if it was 6, but its still a great episode all the same.

@UnchainedEruption 6 лет назад

That's how I felt about Caves of Androzani. I don't recall feeling Enlightenment was rushed.

@memoir4you 4 года назад

The original final story of season 20 was Resurrection of the Daleks but it was cancelled at the last moment due to a strike at the BBC, hence the King's Demons replaced it .

@ApaulSaid 11 лет назад

Did anybody else notice that almost every video uploaded lately by the official DW channel has something to do with the Guardians? Maybe they are trying to give us a hint about something... Just saying ;)

@OtherGonzo 11 лет назад

Funny how many people are talking about things not remotely related to this clip. I wonder if we'll ever see the light and dark guardians again. I kind of hope so.

@Life21HD 11 лет назад

And if we by some miracle do,LET IT BE AN AWESOME ONE otherwise you will hear about moffat's demise...just saying

@AGO339 5 лет назад

funny thing, the Dark Guardian always said he would return to exact his revenge

@redjirachi1 6 лет назад

Where were these guys during the Time War?

@MGSBigBoss77 6 лет назад

Unknown, but its said somewhere's in written canon material available outside the show, that they left our galaxy apparently during the Time War! Otherwise the revived series would've eventually used them onscreen by now? (shrugs)

@akaakaakaak5779 4 года назад

“during the Time War”? There is no “during”, the Time War is ongoing at every instance of time (and also is yet to happen and also has happened, it doesn’t make sense, waste of time trying to make it all fit) but regardless, these guys are beyond time. Presumably during this very scene they could see the Time War going on, it’s conclusion and aftermath

@Skaarjy 4 года назад

Probably didn't care about the time war, they're above that. Remember these guys treat eternals as mere insects.

@ToGood4uxx 11 лет назад

Yeah, that's what everybody should think... But thanks to the internet, I know the complete story... You just have to digg deep enough. River Song won't be REALLY in this episode: The spoiler says she is, but since the "Great Intelligence" comes back, and River wears the stuff from the library in the trailer, I think she is a spoonhead with all the data from the library.

@brownblair98 11 лет назад

I don't know how I'll react if it turns out that the Doctor's real name is indeed John Smith....

@VJFranzK 5 месяцев назад

He originated the earth name by using it so many times in history? ; - ) rationalization...

@Whofan06 11 лет назад

that and it would kind of make the title of the series purposeless and maybe even end the series. :)

@joansmith69 4 года назад

The pacing of the lines are so weird in this episode.

@Bee-bg8kn 11 лет назад

...they both have birds on their head... O.o that's all i noticed in this scene

@PlexusCaeruleum 4 года назад

Taoism explained by dr who.

@VJFranzK 5 месяцев назад

Taoism doesn't emphasize Good and Evil in the Western way, though it does have (the unification of) dualism. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n28HItQp4So.html

@JokerScribe 9 месяцев назад

Spoilers...he's returning.

@dazzag371 9 месяцев назад

Source?

@jcortese3300 3 года назад

I loved this one when it first aired ... very eerie and atmospheric.

@SensicalOxymoron 11 лет назад

They should do something with that: The Doctor's the founder of Jamestown, perhaps?

@borgduck 10 лет назад

I haven't seen this in years. WHY?!

@danielstimson2168 10 лет назад

You were really busy?

@hexalumes 11 лет назад

Is it just me who the birds are creeping out?

@nathanhodgkiss9114 11 лет назад

Interestingly enough, not even that, but it's still not over :)

@Whofan06 11 лет назад

Well yes the golden ticket was a gimmick, but they weren't exactly introduced to a chocolate. the biggest theme park in the world is abandoned war-torn and filled with soldiers. Not the best set-up, but a set-up at that. the leaf represents the the circumstances that allowed her parents to meet, it's a sweet symbol okay? I may be more of a fan of the new series than old, but at least im not bashing your birdbrains (hah see what i did there? :P) :(

@nickmullerITFC78 Год назад

When he said light cant existed without dark its like master cant existed without the doctor 🚜🚜🚜

@VJFranzK 5 месяцев назад

"Road Roller Da!"

@Whofan06 11 лет назад

you're right, they're very good symbols, and i do think it's kind of cool the way their hair is made of feathers. It's just an odd costume idea, one you really wouldn't see today unless it's on Lady Gaga's head. Also, i couldn't help but focus on it cause i actually didn't catch it in the first clip i saw of them. i was watching this, fairly enjoying it, and then towards the end i realized: "oh wow, those are birds on their heads!" :)

@TheFlare67 11 лет назад

I still have to wait two days here in Australia

@oscarbalfour6851 7 лет назад

The black guardian is like a less chill Michael Portillo...

@spiralx6249 3 года назад

You haven't seen an older MIchael P. waxing lyrical about trains on BBC 4. Not nearly so stuffy once he gave politics the heave-ho.

@Yetaxa 11 лет назад

There is no way they're gonna say his name. The episode will be about his name, but won't actually reveal it.

@MeganiumMiiverse 5 лет назад

This was a cool scene

@willhorting5317 2 года назад

I never cared for the Turlough character. I think he was the only companion I never liked.

@cindydott452 Год назад

He was 100% better than that smug creep Adric!

@spartybrearly7221 11 месяцев назад

@@cindydott452 And the equally smug Nyssa.

@slickgamer 11 лет назад

We will never find out ;) If they did tell us - it would 100% be a let down, because what word in any language could properly represent the epicness that is the doctor?

@honesto4696 3 месяца назад

In lieu of just watching The Legend of Ruby Sunday, I strongly suspect that Russell T. Davies will reintroduce the Guardians. I'm not so sure of the Eternals though. If he does, I can hold off on seeing Marriner again. A possessive stalker, that works on a cosmic scale is truly frightening.

@lovemusic928 11 лет назад

i think maybe someone we know will find out his name but us the viewers won't.

@azurerainbow4637 18 дней назад

Odd that the White Guardian didn't go see the Doctor right after he had split the Key to Time into 6 pieces anew because the White Guardian was impersonated by the Black Guardian to give him the key even after mentioning that one of the pieces was a human being, a woman, following the pieces getting assembled and not knowing if the balance of the Universe did get restored or not.

@TheSnowballEarth 7 дней назад

Someone remind me again why they're wear birds on their heads. Neil Innes wearing a rubber duck on his head was one understandable, but not for cosmic beings like these two. Just asking.

@spartybrearly7221 11 месяцев назад

I thought Tegan and Mr Marriner would have made a lovely couple. Marriner seemed to have genuine feelings for Tegan. Surely the White Guardian could have offered him a deal - stay and become ephemeral or return to the void?

@Doctormario4600 11 лет назад

Gallifreyan, presumably. :3

@krezzybot 11 лет назад

Got birds on their heads but don't call them bird heads

@Mr.LaughingDuck 11 лет назад

I'd be happy if it was "Space Gandalf"

@manon-gfx 11 лет назад

I hope we don't get to know the doctors name...

@TheColossalOstrich 11 лет назад

And if it actually turns out to be just John Smith I'm going to throw a shit fit.

@TheFlare67 11 лет назад

I'm going to try and resist the temptation and wait till it goes on TV. Now that will be a challenge.

@hemerafloyd 3 года назад

The guardians and Marie antoinette obviously met at some point in time and Marie when a bit overboard get it because she wore her hair as a boat at some point and then a bush and then a full ass garden get it because guardian...

@ScrufflesTPK 11 лет назад

chuck norris and bruce lee seem fitting names

@fjccommish 25 дней назад

I am black. And you are white. I'm bright like the sun, but you are night.

@martinwood744 2 года назад

Why do these bird creatures have strange humanoid protuberances coming from their undercarriages?

@cindydott452 Год назад

You know what I liked best about Turlough? He *WASN'T* Adric!

@SidneyBroadshead 4 года назад

*Doctor Who* (Season 20 [1983]) *_Enlightenment_** (Serial 5)* Doctor Who [The Fifth Doctor] (Peter Davidson) Tegan Jovanka (Janet Fielding) Vislor Turlough (Mark Strickson) Black Guardian (Valentine Dyall) White Guardian (Cyril Luckham)

@MisterTutor2010 4 года назад

They should just play chess :)

@VJFranzK 5 месяцев назад

The number of possible moves is too simple for them ; - ) So planets are needed instead

@VJFranzK 5 месяцев назад

It's a Cristopher Lee style performance!

@MatthewSuffidy 6 лет назад

Cork it pigeon heads. The bogus guardian at the end of the key to time is sort of an unconvincing proof. I think the white one would have tolerated that problem also.

@danielwilliamson6180 5 лет назад

I see now! The White Guardian is god and The Black Guardian is the devil.

@mjwchapman 2 года назад

forty two !

@VJFranzK 5 месяцев назад

It's... the real number of total regenerations! Douglass Adams (a Dr who writer also) hid that in his later book! (Not really, just made that up.)

@SidneyBroadshead 4 года назад

Black Guardian: Turlough, you are a god among insects...Never forget it!

@alphabetaxenonzzzcat 10 месяцев назад

One of my favourite stories, and I also think it's one of the 5th Doctor's best as well. One of the things that makes it so great is the moral choice that Turlough has to make.

@nickcandy1874 6 лет назад

Janet Fielding is so gorgeous 😍

@1313owner 11 лет назад

Swedish

@azurerainbow4637 4 года назад

It's strange that it took the Black Guardian a long time to find the Doctor and then come face to face with him in his 5th incarnation after he accidentally destroyed a machine he attached to the TARDIS to confuse the Black Guardian of his movements.

@nathanhodgkiss9114 11 лет назад

I don't want to know the doctors name..

@Whofan06 11 лет назад

do they have... BIRDS on their heads? :/

@dirdib69 11 месяцев назад

The lesson here is to never mess with a guy who has a bird on his head.

@neilstucky6265 2 года назад

two epic actors at the top of their game!!! The Guardians NEED to come back. Who is so rich with characters. Bring them all back, and make the series great again