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@felix_irgendwas
@felix_irgendwas Год назад
I was yelling at Simon for 40+ minutes to extend the green in the bottom left corner to 3 cells (because 19 can't be made up of 2 cells only) right when he established they grey in r1c1 ... only for him to resolve it at the very last colouring bit in a way more difficult way. Classic Simon things :D
@bristolrovers27
@bristolrovers27 Год назад
I was with you on this, very Simon
@MadTamB
@MadTamB Год назад
I was thinking the same.
@jeremykemmerling4390
@jeremykemmerling4390 Год назад
Same! and the 4 cell 10 box where he had a resolved 3 that would’ve broken the sudoku part wide open and never noticed!
@1a2s3d6a9s5d
@1a2s3d6a9s5d Год назад
Same! It was literally one of the first things I did then Simon does it 50 minutes later and calls it magic haha flattering but no lol 😅
@brenthoskisson6979
@brenthoskisson6979 Год назад
Best Obi-wan Kenobi imitation "Use the secret, Simon"
@tzeneth
@tzeneth Год назад
The amount of time you had that 3 in column 3 was driving me crazy. Even more hilarious, "Oh I have a 1, 4 pair" while my brain was screaming, "You've had a 1, 2, 4 triple for forever!" :P
@nulldiamonddragon7094
@nulldiamonddragon7094 Год назад
I know right? What's worse was that it was a quadruple that had 3 eliminated from all the other squares
@Vivo-cp2rb
@Vivo-cp2rb Год назад
When the X-Wing formed itself which eliminated the 3 in box 7 I was so happy because I saw it right away and when Simon started explaining i was like "Yes and therefore we have a 124 triple which gives us the 3!" But Simon just deleted the pencil marked 3's in box 7 and moved on ... That was so unsatisfying
@1a2s3d6a9s5d
@1a2s3d6a9s5d Год назад
@@Vivo-cp2rb totally haha when he pencil marked 3s in Box 7 and moved on I shed a tear
@09h13
@09h13 Год назад
Making mistakes is just a part of it all, Simon, both in life and in sudoku (lol), so there's no need to worry, it's actually great to see that you (and Mark) are indeed human and not puzzle solving machines! And recognizing the mistake and going the extra mile to address and fix it makes me respect you so much more!
@aokiji5888
@aokiji5888 Год назад
Who else was trying to figure out how much Simon could unwind if he had just filled in the 3 in that 1,2,3,4 quadruple on the 10 clue?
@MrQuequito
@MrQuequito Год назад
me! it was bugging me lol, i swear, simon can do all the hard logic but fail to spot the easy logic
@simonandersson8563
@simonandersson8563 Год назад
I was =)
@ronjohnson6916
@ronjohnson6916 Год назад
Sigh.
@Gnarlf
@Gnarlf Год назад
Oh yeah and it would have been quite a bit
@amysteele2488
@amysteele2488 Год назад
It nearly drove me mad the way he backed into that by a most circuitous route, rendering it a very minor deduction!
@jukmifggugghposer
@jukmifggugghposer Год назад
The sheer tenacity in avoiding the 124 triple in column 3 is commendable. Of course, I probably couldn't solve this puzzle in thrice Simon's time, but I'll take what I can get.
@BobDylan530
@BobDylan530 Год назад
Simon never saw that 124 triple in column 3, I spent like 15 minutes wondering how long it would take him to spot it but he resolved it a different way. Classic stuff
@Rdlprmpf12
@Rdlprmpf12 Год назад
There was a much simpler logic for the bottom left corner, almost from the beginning: The grey cells on the top add up to 26, because of some secret the green cells at the bottom have to be 19, which needs at least 3 digits.
@laurasmith2173
@laurasmith2173 Год назад
I love that the completely normal human error is recognized. I also love that there is enough respect to redo the puzzle. Keep up the great work.
@minetogiveaway
@minetogiveaway Год назад
Simon: "I'm getting stuck" Also Simon, four seconds later: "Ah!" _proceeds to unravel the puzzle's logic with the left index finger firmly raised in a dazzling display of insight_
@davidkomai
@davidkomai Год назад
Mistakes happen. I’m just glad to see that these guys are human. Some of the solves that Simon and Mark do just blow my mind on how on earth they can spot the things they can.
@inspiringsand123
@inspiringsand123 Год назад
Rules: 08:48 Let's Get Cracking: 11:49 Simon's time: 53m22s Puzzle Solved: 1:05:11 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! The Secret: 6x (12:02, 12:08, 16:59, 18:30, 18:37, 24:22) Cooking with Gas: 1x (1:02:39) Maverick: 1x (15:05) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Ah: 15x (15:35, 16:14, 17:52, 19:52, 20:59, 22:09, 23:28, 24:22, 26:04, 28:51, 29:06, 40:26, 42:53, 51:41, 1:03:29) Checkerboard: 14x (13:31, 13:51, 18:01, 22:48, 22:50, 22:54, 29:15, 31:00, 32:40, 47:21, 48:18, 49:11, 56:55, 57:00) Sorry: 11x (01:01, 01:31, 02:00, 06:03, 06:07, 06:22, 06:22, 22:50, 54:25, 55:04, 56:58) Brilliant: 8x (02:03, 06:54, 07:08, 07:13, 48:38, 1:05:15, 1:05:53, 1:05:56) By Sudoku: 7x (42:41, 43:02, 45:17, 51:57, 1:02:33, 1:03:53, 1:04:08) Clever: 5x (16:06, 20:39, 32:49, 57:05, 1:05:43) Stuck: 5x (21:18, 21:20, 21:23, 24:52, 37:17) Wow: 5x (39:09, 43:48, 48:20, 48:25, 49:38) Good Grief: 4x (22:57, 41:16, 48:34, 1:02:37) Shouting: 4x (01:20, 04:58, 05:02, 05:39) Hang On: 4x (16:10, 37:22, 49:38, 1:01:58) The Answer is: 3x (17:19, 17:58, 36:01) Lovely: 3x (06:35, 06:53, 51:17) In Fact: 3x (02:42, 43:36, 43:36) Obviously: 3x (09:54, 36:19, 46:47) Pencil Mark/mark: 3x (39:16, 51:33, 59:28) Useless: 2x (41:08, 50:32) I Have no Clue: 2x (43:57, 47:27) Incredible: 2x (00:45, 00:45) Let's Take Stock: 2x (40:45, 50:39) What Does This Mean?: 2x (15:10, 31:45) That's Huge: 2x (45:27, 45:27) Eyes are Drawn: 1x (14:01) Goodness: 1x (42:28) Apologies: 1x (1:06:33) Out of Nowhere: 1x (59:55) Nonsense: 1x (43:40) Beautiful: 1x (48:41) Break the Puzzle: 1x (12:46) Fascinating: 1x (04:30) Ridiculous: 1x (49:08) Gorgeous: 1x (32:47) Approachable: 1x (1:05:59) Mea Culpa: 1x (1:06:39) Progress: 1x (42:17) Plonk: 1x (38:55) On the Cusp: 1x (55:13) Thingy Thing: 1x (1:03:42) Cake!: 1x (06:30) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Thirteen, Fifteen (19 mentions) Two (91 mentions) Green (108 mentions) Antithesis Battles: Low (2) - High (0) Even (5) - Odd (0) Shaded (12) - Unshaded (5) Outside (2) - Inside (0) Black (4) - White (2) Column (29) - Row (18) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 Год назад
Wow @ cracking the cryptic....hope you 2 had a wonderful time in Portugal!! Looks beautiful
@elfdogre2181
@elfdogre2181 Год назад
I know Simon does as much as he can to avoid Sudoku in preference of more intricate logic, but the 3 in the 1-2-3-4 set in column 3 for the bottom 10 clue was there for quite a while and every time he highlighted any of those squares or was looking at 3s in the area, I kept hoping he'd see it.
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary Год назад
Glad to hear you and Mark had some well deserved vacation time!!!! Welcome back!
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 Год назад
Amen and amen.
@Anne_Mahoney
@Anne_Mahoney Год назад
+1 from me!
@Cook66
@Cook66 Год назад
You are so ridiculously good at these geometry puzzles, Simon. I can usually follow along with your solves, and often even see things before you do, since your commentary is so generous. With puzzles that rely on geometry, math and triangle numbers like this one, though, you are almost always several steps ahead of me, and all I can do is try to keep up as you drag me through the darkness. Thanks so much for the daily videos!
@danielmonteiro704
@danielmonteiro704 Год назад
Greetings from Portugal! hope you enjoyed your stay here
@silivrengamer
@silivrengamer Год назад
Perfection doesn’t exist. Even a crystal lattice can have errors can still be strong. I love your channel. I can’t follow the logic. Half the time, but I’ve learned a lot about sudoku anyway!
@DefensorsPacis
@DefensorsPacis Год назад
20:29 I've definitely picked up a few things from watching these videos; for example, you could have easily determined the *maximum* size of a 26 clue, with all the digits minimized. The triangular number for 7 is 28, so the shaded region could be no larger than 6 cells. Ergo, the unshaded cells in R1 must grow upwards, which also nets a shaded cell in R2C8 to prevent a checkerboard. I honestly thought you'd notice it at some point, but went the entire video without it. Seems to have worked fine, regardless.
@MM3Soapgoblin
@MM3Soapgoblin Год назад
That 3 in R6C3 was killing me lol. It was available for over 10 mins before he found it another way.
@Mega_Tron6891
@Mega_Tron6891 Год назад
I just got to that point haha
@Mega_Tron6891
@Mega_Tron6891 Год назад
54:29 yes there is something more you could do 🤣🤣🤣
@Gnarlf
@Gnarlf Год назад
That's what surprises me over and over again. There is some obvious write in, that he misses. No biggie, we are all human, right? And then he somehow finds a ridiculous complicated way to tackle the issue from a completely different direction, to get that solution. I wouldn't even be able to do that in my wildest dreams. Just mind blowing.
@brianshilling
@brianshilling Год назад
I think resolving the puzzle isn't necessary, but it'll be fun to see you either completely get stuck in the same spots when you can just do sudoku, or completely blast through parts previous Simon got stuck on.
@stormd
@stormd Год назад
I agree, going back and re-solving seems like overkill...the truth is, EVERY other logical deduction Simon made in that puzzle was on point, and none of it really relied on the faulty placement of green except for one decision at the very end, which completed what would otherwise have been and x-wing that the arrow itself would have disambiguated.
@olivier2553
@olivier2553 Год назад
"It is better to formulate your thoughts before you speak is a gem! At least to my French mind it means "it is better to speak your thoughts before you speak" which I find hilariously recurrent: you'd better had formulate that thought about formulating thoughts before you said it. And about the error in yesterday puzzle, it is nice to see you are human after all :)
@mareksroka5629
@mareksroka5629 Год назад
Sometime I'd love Simon to notice some deduction he help us acheive. It would have helped finishing the ying-yang before delving into much sudoku. This time around, it concerns the 15 clue at the bottom of the grid. It is possible to deduce that 7 has to be in column 5 in box 8! Either the 15 clue is 2 cells, in which case it is a 78 pair, or it is 4 cells, which (as simon himself notices) puts a 7 in r9c5. This in turn helps colouring r8c4 and r7c4 green, because a solitary 7 can't be there anymore, which, along the 3 green cells at the bottom or column 1, allows to finish the coloring
@belgianbunny
@belgianbunny Год назад
Was just about to start painting my nails and an episode of cracking the cryptic is perfect to watch while my nails are drying!
@goleyeath
@goleyeath Год назад
This was really fun to solve! Last time I saw the yin-yang rule on the channel, I didn't have a clue how to even approach the puzzle. Watching Simon carefully explain how to make progress in the ruleset on that occasion, and particularly the anti-checkerboard rule and perimeter colour-change constraint, allowed me to solve this puzzle on my own. (Amusingly, Simon seemed to forget the second of these in this solve, which would have given him a much easier path to shading the bottom left of the grid.) I feel I've made great progress as a solver since discovering this channel 9 months ago, and I have Simon and Mark to thank for a lot of that progress. So, Simon, I don't think you should let yesterday's "ricket" get you down too much. Truth be told, I made exactly the same logical error in my first attempt at the puzzle (my solution had valid arrows but violated the anti-knight constraint), and it was only by looking at the channel discord that I realised where I'd gone wrong. That you feel the need to make amends for yesterday's video is a credit to both you and the channel you run, and I can't wait to see the runback tomorrow. :D
@LiquorStoreJon
@LiquorStoreJon Год назад
Glad you had a fun time on holiday - thanks for sharing some photos from your excursion!
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 Год назад
Simon, so glad you're back, and equally glad that you (and Mark) had a holiday. We were fine while you were gone, and even though you made that mistake of posting two videos the other day I felt that was a lovely bonus. As for the mistake yesterday, I will look forward to your video showing the correct solution NOT because I feel that I deserve anything along those lines or need it or that you need to do it for most of our sakes, but because it will be another chance to see you in action. Perhaps I'll give the puzzle more of a try myself before watching the corrected video. Welcome back, lovely video and puzzle today, and many thanks to TotallyNormalCat for this great puzzle. OH I forgot to mention that wonderful expression, "hoist by his own petard" (you used in the first person) - I learned that some years ago and just love it, and it usually garners raised eyebrows whenever I say it out loud. Thanks for that!
@dontmindme2844
@dontmindme2844 Год назад
56:48 Or the easier way for column 1 - The bottom 3 cells in column 1 could have been unshaded from the start as 26 can only be 6 cells long and the outside edge cannot be interrupted.
@markthompson2874
@markthompson2874 Год назад
Me at 55:30: Screaming "DO SUDOKU with the 10 clue." Kills off quite a bit! Simon at 58:10: "Maybe it's Sudoku" Me at 58:11: "FINALLY!!! And even then he doesn't see the 1-2-4 triple for another 6 minutes! He's still a lot better at this than I am!
@chocolateboy300
@chocolateboy300 Месяц назад
I finished in 227 minutes. I started of strong due to remembering the checkerboard rule, but then I got hard stuck. After 177 minutes, I gave up and started to watch the video, only to be reminded of the second secret rule to Yin Yang Puzzles regarding the borders. After that, I was able to color everything 221 minutes in, before a strong finish. If you do not remember those two secrets, the puzzle becomes impossible to figure out. Besides taking a while, this was a fun puzzle. Great Puzzle!
@anyadolson4138
@anyadolson4138 Год назад
Honestly I hadn't had a great birthday but this shoutout just made me so happy.
@Tekay37
@Tekay37 Год назад
8:28 rules
@no_name4796
@no_name4796 Год назад
Love ya!
@danikanskywalker2119
@danikanskywalker2119 Год назад
That 1,2,4 triple in column 3 burnt a hole in my soul Long winded explanation of an x-wing, then failing to spot the result that topples the puzzle 🙃
@th.nd.r
@th.nd.r Год назад
Beautiful setting and solving, TNC’s logic is ALWAYS to die for! So many clever deductions!
@lexihopes
@lexihopes Год назад
You deserve kindness about big mistakes too Simon! Everyone does, and on top of that you bring so much brightness and joy to so many people.
@terry9819
@terry9819 Год назад
This puzzle was great. Every step through the puzzle led to the next step and was a joy to solve. Thanks for solving it!
@LavenderGooms
@LavenderGooms Год назад
This was a fun one. Very helpful was all the secrets you have given about yin yang puzzles previously. No way could I have done this without that.
@slurve0h
@slurve0h Год назад
1:03:55 No Simon, It's been a 3 since you gave us a lesson about 3's at 53:40!!! Aaagghh
@hanna-writes
@hanna-writes Год назад
Had a slow solve time of 146:02, but I did solve it. I also didn't watch the video long enough for Simon to tell me that the parameter could only be two blocks and that checkermarks would break the puzzle, so I had to figure that out and prove it myself. Slow, but steady progress throughout that followed a rather similar solve path (though I spotted the 124 triple right away!)
@BookofAeons
@BookofAeons Год назад
My favorite part of this puzzle was discovering that no matter how the box 8 15 clue finishes, it always plonks a 7 in column 5 in that box and forces the 7 clue out of the box entirely.
@Coyotek4
@Coyotek4 Год назад
39:42 ... I'm happy to have finished this one in under an hour, much less under 40 minutes Nice puzzle!
@crystalgehrt8861
@crystalgehrt8861 Год назад
This is the best I've ever done with one by this tremendous setter, which is shocking because I have very little experience with these types. It's very pretty setting and quite a lot of fun.
@jaeusa160
@jaeusa160 Год назад
@26:50 A method to notate that which I just thought of could be to use the Line tool and put a line between r3c2 and r3c3. So the line would indicate they need to be different colors. Likewise you could use the line tool to connect cells which you know are the same color but not which color. Just a thought on possible methods of notation, for yourself or others. :)
@Mn0ty
@Mn0ty Год назад
45:57 you could actually tell the 7 didn't start at the bottom before sorting out whether or not the 15 extended. If the 7 started at the bottom, it would be a 1 cell long block to avoid 2x2 and therefore, be a 7, so it would eliminate both 7-8 and 6-9 for the 15, so 15 would extend, putting a 7 at the bottom, on the same box as the shaded 7.
@lexihopes
@lexihopes Год назад
Yes, and he first looked at it right after he had figured out (by looking at the options) but not quite realized (by putting the pieces together) that there had to be a 7 in column 5 box 8.
@tiesbloemen
@tiesbloemen Год назад
Don't apologize for taking vacation! You've earned it
@jessochberg4034
@jessochberg4034 Год назад
Love your amazing work Simon (even though you didn’t say “oh Bobbins” this time!)!
@BreakTheBeat852
@BreakTheBeat852 Год назад
Great solve! I wish I had known you were in Portugal and I hope we treated you well 🙂
@piarittersporn
@piarittersporn Год назад
It took me quite a long time, but I enjoyed this brilliant puzzle very much.
@ericpraline1302
@ericpraline1302 Год назад
Nice puzzle. Feel like I rediscovered my mojo somewhat with a fairly smooth solve of this one.
@markp7262
@markp7262 Год назад
47:02 finish. Another not-so-TotallyNormal puzzle, enjoyable as always!
@jlashombjr
@jlashombjr Год назад
Around 56:49, it's easier to know that the 26 column, but have at least 19 in green cells at the end, so it must take at least 3 cells. Then the rest fills itself.
@10bd1
@10bd1 Год назад
1:01:20 Simon! I’ve been trying to tell you for 15 minutes! You took the 3 in the 10 clue out of 3 boxes. You finally look at the row and somehow miss that again!
@erickehr4475
@erickehr4475 Год назад
46:14 for me. I’m never too confident on this type of puzzle and my whole solve is spent waiting for the inevitable contradiction. But this time it seemed to go OK!
@Anne_Mahoney
@Anne_Mahoney Год назад
Welcome back, Simon. I'd noticed the two digits crossed over in the last video but figured it was just a typo at the end -- nothing significant! And I'm surprised that you apologized for the day when you posted an extra video: a bonus! a treat! a second helping of intellectual cake! If that's your idea of a mistake, then you're on the way to sainthood, or something. As for the present puzzle, wow. That sort of filling-in-space puzzle is utterly unintuitive for me which is one reason it's such fun to watch someone solve it who both enjoys it and does it effortlessly. Made for a lovely hour after dinner with a crunchy scallion pancake and a glass of wine.
@ShinyBobblehead
@ShinyBobblehead Год назад
My first yin-yang puzzle, the break in kind of reminded me of nonograms :D Also it's not particularly helpful until the very end, but on top of thinking about the minimum number of cells for the 26 down clue, you also can think about the maximum. That lets you shade in r8/9,c1 as green and r8c2 as grey early on
@hanna-writes
@hanna-writes Год назад
The nonogram break-in is actually what inspired me to try my hand at this puzzle! I spotted it instantly, so I figured maybe I had an outside chance of solving the whole thing.
@pi5549
@pi5549 Год назад
Also I'd love to see Simon and Mark joining forces to solve a puzzle together. That would be great viewing. Maybe there should be pair-solve competitions, like tennis doubles.
@MrMW2nd
@MrMW2nd Год назад
How simon missed the 3 in r6c3 at 53:50 and finding it 10 minutes later by doing sudoku on the rest of the grid is peak ctc
@meiter
@meiter Год назад
Welcome back!!
@skid68
@skid68 Год назад
Know it's a bit evil but I do like when Simon misses obvious stuff so it is not only me. He missed 4 in row 4 and 3 in row 6 in box 4. In general, your solutions are so elegant Simon.
@flobiish
@flobiish Год назад
@1:02:10 ...you backed into that the long way round. The faster solution, available @53:57 is the 3 in r6c3. It gives you the momentum to get everything you just backed into.
@_-_-Sipita-_-_
@_-_-Sipita-_-_ Год назад
43:05 for me. i was slowly progressing and then saw a guessing opportunity, so without getting stuck i took that guess and it was correct. looking at where i guessed, i was just a little step for doing the same thing lol.
@Wildhorn666
@Wildhorn666 Год назад
@47:40 You could have got it 10 minutes earlier when you checked if the 15 clue was 2 or 4 grey cell. The 7 of column 5 was always in box 8, so the 7 clue could not be a single grey cell.
@Raven-Creations
@Raven-Creations Год назад
You were slow spotting the pair of 7 clues had to include a single cell 7 and a multi-cell 7, and if the single cell was the top one, it would trap green. Therefore R4C1=7, and R3C1/2 are grey, leaving green a way out via R3C3. One lovely bit of logic I found was the way the 7 and 12 clues in row 3 interacted with box 3 (this was before any digits or pencil-marks in R3, but 24569 had been placed in box 3). Whichever two digits made up the 12, one of them went into R2C9. This meant that the 7 couldn't be 16 or 34, so had to be 25, ruling out 57 from the 12, leaving 48, with the 8 also going into R2C9. This left 137 in R3 in box 3, and a 6 and 9 in the remaining green in the row. At 41:00, the 15 clue at the bottom has to extend to four cells. If it didn't, it would be 78, which would leave the 14 clue at the top with a maximum of 345 to fill it. Your unified thirteens hypothesis can be easily disproved. The existing run can be no longer than four cells, so you'd need three greens in a row, which would create a 2x2 with the greens in R4. You need a run of at least two to make up the other 13, so R5C2 must be shaded, and to avoid a chequerboard, this means R5C1 must also be shaded. The digits and pencil-marks already placed mean it can't be 67, 58, or 49, so it must take a third cell. The green cells in the row are 9 in C8 from the earlier 7/12 logic, and a 37 pair. The thirteens have to be 814 and 256. I can't understand why you didn't extend green around the SW corner much earlier on (it was one of the first things I did). It had to be at least three cells at the bottom of C1, which put a grey into R8C2. You had a 124 triple in your 10 clue for ages. That gives you the 3, puts 4 in R6C9, which makes R4C5=6, and stopping the 256 option for the left-hand 13 clue. You really do make things hard for yourself. I always approach a TNC puzzle with a mixture of excitement and trepidation. They're usually very interesting, but often quite challenging. This wasn't too bad; I don't feel beaten up, and there was definitely some nice logic going on.
@HunterJE
@HunterJE Год назад
16:50 In addition to the 2x2 issue with the 12 clue Simon mentions here, the long way around has the even more glaring problem that 26≠45...
@HunterJE
@HunterJE Год назад
(26 clue got short shrift generally, that troublesome area at bottom left could have been much more easily resolved by noting 45-26=19, which means the bottom 3 cells of column 1 are green since you need at least 3 cells in a 19 sum and applying the perimeter rule tells you everything in the column that's not in the 26 sum must be green)
@gregind01
@gregind01 Год назад
"... it's better I've found when, when speaking to formulate your thoughts before you open your mouth um because otherwise you're at risk of staying absolute gibberish". What a Freudian slip that you are 'staying' absolute gibberish! lol That was hilarious waiting 10 minutes for you to fill in the 3 in r6c3, which the 10 clue below column 3 resolved. 🤣
@pi5549
@pi5549 Год назад
Here's a good exercise: Watch Simon doing the solve and then try it yourself.
@KittyXCross
@KittyXCross Год назад
I'd love a pair of sudoku boots!
@Jason-su9cs
@Jason-su9cs Год назад
Simon is obvious brilliant, but the 124 triple on c3r5,7,&8 killed me for a while. Would have put in a lot of numbers for a while, haha.
@brendonmurley8276
@brendonmurley8276 Год назад
39:54, but only after clues from watching you, Simon!
@kadlerio
@kadlerio Год назад
I solved yesterday's puzzle today and I noticed your mistake along with the comments pointing it out and I'll say it doesn't really change much in the rest of the puzzle. I got very stuck with the seemingly nothing being resolvable until I saw you put 5 on the end of the arrow which lead to 1 being the other number on the arrow and adding up to the wrong value of 6. AFAICT that's the only way to disambiguate the puzzle, but maybe you'll find something more clever Simon! Looking forward to the video.
@chrisclements1684
@chrisclements1684 Год назад
Reading some of the comments ,I think the term back seat solvers could be applied . I am one ,so meant with affection .
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby Год назад
Simon seems to make heavy weather of this one, I finished it in 35 minutes which didn't feel especially quick (although I know he didn't actually start solving until 15 minutes into the video!). Around 56:00, an easier question to ask is "what is the maximum number of cells in c1 that can be shaded for a total of 26?", which leaves the bottom three cells as unshadeable straight away.
@stephenbeck7222
@stephenbeck7222 Год назад
“Right away” as in about 3 minutes after he started the solve.
@l3afman
@l3afman Год назад
52:36 you can resolve the 14 triple in c5 without the 15 clue's 6; there is no way for r3c5 to be a 4 because then the two cells above it have to add to 10, which they can't do by sudoku because they see 9 (ruling out 1+9), 4 (ruling out 6+4), and 7 (ruling out 3+7), and 2 and 8 from box 3. So r3c5 is forced to be 8, resolving the 48 pair, and making the two above cells sum to 6, which can't be done with 4 and 2, since the 4 is already placed in box 2, can't be done with 3 and 3 by sudoku, so must be a 15 pair which is resolved by the 5 in r1. I realise this is likely obvious but I spotted it a minute ago and I feel much cleverer than I usually do watching these solves :P
@bobh6728
@bobh6728 Год назад
I think Simon is a little rusty after taking time off. 57:00 kind of a miracle how the lower left coloring worked. Yes, it is amazing that other 19 in column 1 has to be more the 1 cell long in green.
@spudd86
@spudd86 Год назад
As soon as you get that the r9c1 is green you can green the two above it because 9+8 is only 17 and you need the greens to add to 19, you know by the only two runs around the outside that there aren't extra greys, so you also get that r8c2 is grey to avoid a 2x2.
@lexihopes
@lexihopes Год назад
When he was saying at least one of them has to be green because the 26 couldn't take up the whole column I kept expecting him to think about how many had to be green, but he never did! (Well sort of at the end but still not in that straightforward way.)
@lostinspace2009
@lostinspace2009 Год назад
Nicely done Simon. Its hard to scan all the possibilites. So much multitasking going on. !
@MeNowDealWIthIt
@MeNowDealWIthIt Год назад
Can you do a video on what to do if, partway through a solve, I find that I used faulty logic earlier but can't figure out which part was faulty?
@Gonzalo_Garcia_
@Gonzalo_Garcia_ Год назад
21:38 for me. Loved the ruleset, very enjoyable puzzle!!
@TAHeap
@TAHeap Год назад
That "very interesting reason" is called the 'Jordan Curve Theorem'
@dontmindme2844
@dontmindme2844 Год назад
This wasn't too bad at all. Not as hard as the video is long, at least for me. Got distracted with e-mail and forgot the puzzle for 10-15 minutes and still finished in 47:52.
@titusadduxas
@titusadduxas Год назад
The bottom left which Simon finally resolved after 57 mins was pretty well resolved at the start when C1 always had at least 3 greens at the bottom. Also the two 13s in R5 had to be different from very early on. I’m missing stuff Simon sees clearly but he often misses stuff which I find obvious. Strange.
@johnfrancis1528
@johnfrancis1528 Год назад
You would have had a terrific time at Bletchly Park.
@greatgreyowl2583
@greatgreyowl2583 Год назад
Yep if there's a freeway and mountain goat trail Simon will take the mountain goat trail. hmmmm
@iagox86
@iagox86 Год назад
Does anybody have a link to the videos where Mark and Simon solved the same puzzles? That sounds fun to watch!
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 Год назад
Below is a link to Simon's solve of a puzzle previously solved by Mark, from a few days ago. If you check in the comments on this video, you will find a link to Mark's solve of the same puzzle. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wOmbGt5JpjU.html
@solfeinberg437
@solfeinberg437 Год назад
Could the perimeter be in 1 color, though? That seems possible.
@bebopjelli2
@bebopjelli2 Год назад
I like the yin-yang puzzles. Anyone know where to find more?
@Nekromant05
@Nekromant05 Год назад
Here is something I really do not understand. Before you even start the puzzle you explain in detail, that the edge of the grid has to be one sequence of green and one sequence of grey exactly. So because of the 38 and 26 clues in the top left you know immediately that if r1c1 is green, you have a maximum of 3 greens in r1 and a maximum of 5 greens in c1 and the rest of the edge must be grey; but if r1c1 is grey than a maximum of 8 cells in r1 and a maximum of 6 cells in c1 is grey and the rest of the edge must be green. Still you never ever use that for c1 despite it being the base for your cracking.
@nipi5730
@nipi5730 Год назад
3 in box 4 was available at 54 minutes
@LardoCulo
@LardoCulo Год назад
Yeah that one really bugged me for a while. Simon scanning as usual 😀
@user-cz1yu1tc8e
@user-cz1yu1tc8e Год назад
Few seconds below an hour. Nice.
@4evafcn
@4evafcn Год назад
yeah did it :)
@bradmccallum1
@bradmccallum1 Год назад
That 3 in the corner of box 4 was bugging me for so long...
@Wildhorn666
@Wildhorn666 Год назад
@54:26 The 3 in box 4!!!!!
@MrQuequito
@MrQuequito Год назад
that 3 in C3R8 placed on 1:03::53 was bugging me for like 10min lol
@odinfeidje-baug7467
@odinfeidje-baug7467 Год назад
Next time you are doing a Yin Yang puzzle please use blue and orange.
@JK7H
@JK7H Год назад
Simon, as the setter of yestarday puzzle said the only logic path that you missed was the disambiguation of 1 and 2 so i feel like you could just find the correct logic path and explain it, instead of doing the same puzzle again.
@smylesg
@smylesg Год назад
People keep mentioning the leftover 19 from column 1. I "secretly" thought the first seven digits would already be more than 26.
@prahas777
@prahas777 Год назад
Unless I'm totally missing something, and because its now come up twice and Simon hasn't mentioned it, in Florian's puzzle, at that spot, there is a 9 in a blue cell. So I think that means Simon can make several known blue cells 9. Which must help a bit, no?
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 Год назад
He kind of acknowledged that he missed the obvious with the 9s at around 21:10 in yesterday's video. (This just happens to be after where he made the mistake he was referring back to at 2:15 in the current video.)
@rogerivancamaralemarroy9222
I've never done a Yin Yang puzzle and English is not my native tounge. Could someone explain to me why R2C5 has to be shaded? Couldn't it be a green and then have R3C5 and R4C5 be the "first continuous block of shaded cells"?
@smylesg
@smylesg Год назад
13:05 Evoking Hercule Poirot.
@mikepictor
@mikepictor Год назад
I solved the win yang, but had to bifurcate once to do it, and then got burned out and didn't finish the sodoku part.
@Jigkuro
@Jigkuro Год назад
I think it could be fun to have Mark solve the puzzle instead of you going again.
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