You should give more props to Hossa. He was so impactful throughout those years. The seabrook and Keith combo was also on the level of toews/makar today
Yea he set it up as only dynasty of the salary cap era then didn’t mention any moves they made like having to let go of players after 2010 cup or bickell illness after 2013 or the dynasty ending bc toews and seabrook regressing but on massive contracts
Completely agree Hossa deserves more credit and brought this team to a new level. Honestly Hossa is probably one of the best free agent signings across Chicago sports history with how much they won.
Like 2 hours ago i had a discussion with a buddy about the og 6 because of a lighter he had, and we couldnt even think of the blackhawks, and were surprised when we looked it up lmao
The core 7 that won all 3 cups were not just elite talents. They worked their asses off and set the tone for the rest of the team. That’s why 4 are HOFers, (Kane, Toews, Keith, Hossa), 2 fringe HOFers (Sharp, Seabrook), and the best defensive D-man of the Cap era. (Hjalmarsson)
also, altho bizarrely snubbed from getting his name on the Cup in 10, Bryan Bickell was also on all 3 Cup teams; played in the regular season and multiple playoff games for all 3 teams. You can see him on the bench celebrating during Kane's tying goal in the iconic Nashville game.
@@shhhhip52 Crawford was starting goalie for 2 Stanley Cup teams, won 2 Jennings trophies (fewest goals against), has the 11th best save % in league history, and a lot of really good numbers in general. Tom Barrasso is in w similar numbers as far as adjusted point shares, Jon Quick will get in. Crow will have a serious argument and will probably eventually get put in.
Same here. Blackhawks dynasty Cubs world series run and just overall being really good for years Bulls with d-rose and Jimmy butler And the bears were... There Chicago sports 2009-2020 were fun
From 2002 to 2011 the Blackhawks drafted in order (most of whom played big parts on Stanley Cup Champions): Duncan Keith, Adam Burish, James Wisniewski, Brent Seabrook, Corey Crawford, Dustin Byfuglien, Dave Bolland Bryan Bickell, Troy Brouwer, Niklas Hjarlmarsson, Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane, Ben Smith, Marcus Kruger, Philip Danault, Brandon Saad, Andrew Shaw. Thats how you build the bulk of a roster.
They were dominant in the clutch and calm in the clutch in a way that was almost comical. Even when they lost they tended to take a bite out of whomever - they weren't an easy out. I saw an image w game 6 records of all the teams from like 06-20, the Blackhawks were 15-1 in game 6. Even the best other teams were barely over 500. They were 15-1. 2011 they were the 8 seed, down 3-0 to the 1 seed eventual runner up Canucks, took it all the way to game 7 overtime. 2012, clutch late wins vs AZ then the all time cheap shot on Hossa took the heart out of them the end of that series. 2014 down 3-1 to LA in the WCF, Kane carried them to game 7 OT where they lost on a bad bounce and bad officiating. 2013 back from 3-1 down vs Det to win it, had the game winner taken away at the end of regulation, won in OT anyway; they were also down a goal in the 3rd period in game 6 on the road in that series, facing elimination. Won anyway. Down 2-1 to Boston, won the series 3 straight (multiple OT and comeback late wins). Down 2-1 to Tampa, won the series 3 straight, choked the life out of them. Tied 2-2 w Anaheim in 15 WCF, down 2 goals w a minute left in game 5, Toews scored twice to tie the game and send it to OT. Hawks LOST in OT to go down 3-2. STILL WON THE SERIES. Like where other teams would have been demoralized or folded, they very rarely did. 2016 down 3-1 to St Louis, forced game 7 and lost by 1, in the 3rd. 2013 WCF game 5, Kings tied right at the end of regulation. Hawks didn't care, won it in 2OT anyway to make the finals. 2010 Cup finals, Philly rallied from 2-0 down to make it a 2-2 series - Hawks didn't care, momentum meant nothing, they won 2 straight to end it. In game 6, Hawks think they're about to win the Cup, Philly ties it with 4 minutes left, has all momentum. Hawks don't care, win in OT. 2009 2nd round vs Vancouver, game 6, Hawks w a chance to clinch, they blow an early 3-1 lead, Vancouver goes up 4-3 in the 3rd. Hawks tie it like a minute later wo flinching. Vancouver then takes the lead again with 8 minutes left. Kane scores less than a minute later to tie it again. Toews scores less than a minute after that. Kane then puts them up 2 w a famous goal to end it. 2010 1st rd vs Nashville, game 5 of a 2-2 series, Hawks are down a goal and shorthanded w under a minute left, about to go to Nashville down 3-2. Kane ties it w 15 seconds left. They win in OT. 2013 stanley cup game 6, down a goal w 1 minute left, Boston expecting to go back to Chicago for game 7, Hawks score 2 in 17 seconds to win it. There has never been another team like this. Not just in the cap era either. Ever. There is dominance but dominance can be quite boring. The dynasty Hawks were never boring. They were always or often enough anyway facing legitimate peril. It never felt or looked easy or automatic. But they would almost always do it when it mattered, to a degree no other team has ever done it. My theory on this is that Patrick Kane is the main catalyst, I believe he's the most clutch player in hockey history and the calmest and most confident in big situations and I believe he infected his entire team. There had already also been clutch work from Toews prior to being drafted, so he had it. But it became the whole team. If you watched Detroit late last year btw you can see Kane infecting THAT team too. They started doing crazy clutch stuff, all kinds of guys not just Raymond. Being around a player like that and seeing how he is in the big moments just - instills it in others. Takes away the nerves and the fear that normally are involved. Or so the theory goes.
I like this analysis very much. It'll be hard for any team to give their fans a product that good ever again. Like you said, dominance can be boring. But the flavor of dominance those Blackhawks delivered was a level of sports entertainment that is unlikely to be reached again. I'd like to see your theory discussed on the relevant subreddits
Please be joking. Cause if you're serious we need to institutionalize you. They were even top 5 in their own era. Malkin Crosby, Zetterberg Datsyuke, The Sedin twins, Bergeron Krejci, Kopitar Carter, McDavid Drai, OVI Backstrom. I can keep going but I hope you get the point
@@NicolaParise-h8c absolutely, I’m excited about Bedsy and the other prospects like Nazar , Moore, Levshunov , Vanecker, Boisvert and others, they will definitely be dominant again
@@dalton7726 Yea the regular season only encompasses 80% of the hockey played. Modano didn't cover up rape, beat up cab drivers over 20¢ or have rape accusations. So I'll take that guy over the known scumbag. Also when did Kane captain a team? Oh that's right he was too much of a cancer to get the big C
@@dalton7726 and on ice performance is in favor of Modano bro has more goals, assists and points in the playoffs and regular season than Kaner. Only reason his stats don't look as "impressive" to you is he played until he was 40 something your butt buddy will fail to accomplish
As a Blackhawk’s fan I’d argue that 2013 was the greatest offense of all time. I’d consider the pens a dynasty with their 09, 16’ and 17’ trophy. Syd is a dynasty himself keeping that team solid for a decade and a half.
The 2013 Hawks may have been the best hawks team ever. That final was probably one of the few finals in the last 20 years that was actually the 2 best teams. That Bruins team was extremely good
You can't forget the Islanders hold a North American pro sports record of 19 consecutive playoff victories, that is the best team by far, the NHL (based in Montreal at the time) had to change the playoff format to heavily favor the Oilers to stop the Isles from winning a 5th-straight Cup to officially tie the Canadiens' record, though the Habs had to win much less playoff rounds to win those 5
sports is entertainment. when it's that automatic it loses the entertainment. nobody ever really got tired of the dynasty Hawks, bc they were always incredibly dramatic, and would actually lose - but dramatically, and always after dramatically fighting their way back. and their wins were just as dramatic and did not feel quite inevitable, even if maybe they were - unlike the later Lightning whose 'clutchness' always felt inevitable and easy and contrived, like how top NCAA football teams never quite lose even when ostensibly threatened.
@@paulwt9783 It was dramatic for the Islanders every time, barely anyone expected them to win no matter how many cups they already won, regardless that has nothing to do with the Montreal-based NHL changing the playoff format to favor the opposing finalist
This was a fun video. I loved reliving the three cups. The 2 goals in 17 seconds in 2013 has got to be my favorite moment due to the confusion around Kane's winner in 2010.
I sure miss those teams, but I'm grateful for the memories and will remember those championship teams forever. 2010 was a young talented team on fire, 2013 was the dominating veteran team that basically dominated everyone, and 2015 was the hard grinding team that turned it on in the playoffs. That Blackhawks Ducks series was something else, and it made me a coffee drinker lol.
Not mentioning Hossa and the other 2 really good defenseman they had in Hjarlmasson and Seabrook is a disservice to those guys and all those GREAT trades they made at different points in their cup run. Trading for Sharp, Versteeg, and Ladd. Drafting Saad and Shaw. Then some of those midseason trades for like Oduya, Handzus, Frolik, and Vermette who all had huge moments. They played the 2015 playoffs with pretty much 4 defenseman, a 5th who played sparingly and a 6th who barely saw the ice.
The Blackhawks from 2009-2017 were the reason why I fell in love with hockey as a kid and were probably the greatest times of my life as a Chicago sports fan. And while I doubt we’ll be able to recreate what we accomplished back then with Bedard. I have a lot of hope for the future of this team
Thanks, Max for bringing that up. While I'm a Hawks fan (form Makita-Hull era), Modano is the better all-around pUSA-born player over Kane. He had 29 SHG. Says a lot about his abilities other than goals & assists.
Great Video. When The Miracle happened, 2 goals in only 17 seconds, I texted my buddy in Florida, who, as A Kid, was A Huge Terry O'Reilly Fan, while I was A Huge Tony O Esposito Fan (as our Jerseys showed, in playing Street Hockey in The Late 70s), Chicago! Chicago! Chicago! It was great winning at TD Garden, rather than us having to go back to Chicago for A Game 7.
@@HecticHockey Even though I like The Rangers a bit more, also, now, I'm still A Huge Chicago Blackhawks Fan (I'd even say that there's more of A Tie).
If you haven't made one yet I'd love to see a video made by hectic about Ovechkins or The caps' playoff struggles throughout the Ovechkin-Era, all the way to the run that would go on to become the clubs first cup win🙏🏼🙏🏼👍🏼
@@thylacine519 Fair point but it took Chicago 5 years to win three times. How long can we push the window to win three times for it to be a dynasty? I'm not sure there's a specific cutoff, but '95 to '03 is certainly longer, I'll give you that.
As a Flyers fan I hated them in 2010 but there’s something about watching the young guns dominate early in their careers that makes it hard not to like.
do a video on the kings from 2011-2014 or the lightning from 2015-2022. People debate on how many they have to win to be considered one but the reality is there is no specific number that dictates it, what dictates it is sustained dominance and multiple championships within short time spans which is what these 2 teams had in these respective timespans and what the bolts did from 2015-2022 for example with 2 cup titles, 4 cup finals and coming a win short from the finals again in 2016 and 2018 and also winning a presidents trophy in 2019. And the Kings 2 cup titles and 3 straight conference finals is worth mentioning as well.
I remember watching the Toews and Kane era of the 2010s when I was young at that time. It also got me into watching sports, Toews and Kane were my first two favorite sports athletes that I liked, and will always be my favorite Blackhawks players of all time. Man it was so fun to watch them play and bring three Stanley Cups to the Windy City in the 2010s during my childhood. It was so amazing! We had a great run! Also, bowman should’ve never traded Artemi Panarin to the Blue Jackets for Brandon Saad back in the summer of 2017, that’s when the dominos started to fall, they went on a downward spiral following that. If Bowman didn’t trade Panarin, we would’ve been a playoff team for at least 3-4 years and added 1 or 2 more cups to the 2010s dynasty. Hopefully the Bedard era will be like the Toews and Kane era. Go Hawks! ❤️🖤
My Grandpa and I used to watch the Hawks all the time together. The last time we ever did was when we lost to the Kings in the Western final in 2014. I was really bummed because he had cancer and I really wanted us to win the cup that year so he could see it. We ended up winning it the next year, but it was a little bitter sweet for me, personally.
I recognize that Gretzky and his team had his dynasty but these guys are precision tuned athletes; health, fitness, and hockey have been their whole lives. Gretzky has said it himself he could never compete with these guys, so to continue to say his team was the greatest is a complete diminution of the last 2 decades of hockey.
I was in 10th grade win they won their first. I remember no one in school cared but me and my friends (NWI) by 2012 my senior year EVERYONE had hawks gear lol
Didn’t talk about the transition from 2010-2013. The 2010 team hit a massive cap wall and had to get rid of so many players. The fact that they were able to put together an even better roster around the stars they kept and win again just a few years later is one of the greatest sports front office moves in history.
2010 OT cup winning goal. 2014 ot winner in conference finals against Kings, and 2015 SCF goal against TB. Patrick Kanes 3 most iconic goals. And great cellts on top of it to follow! 😎
I wouldn't call Edmonton a big market team... They struggled financially a lot and is exactly why they traded Wayne Gretzky for Cash as well as players
You're wrong about winning the cup 3 times in six years. Yes, they won three cups over SEASONS, but that was in a span of five years and one week, which isn't the same thing.
When I think dynasties I think of the Canadiens, Islanders, Oilers. Hawks had a good run but I don’t think it should be called a dynasty. Heck if the Kings would have won in 2016 would you call them a dynasty?
@@Yambag that’s your definition of a dynasty. Teams have to win consecutive titles to be considered a dynasty. Don’t get me wrong when you talk the top teams ever in the NHL the Hawks are in the conversation but can’t define them as a dynasty.
Been watching and following hockey for over 20 years, and gotta say no team could control and dominate a game like the prime time Hawks. They’d put on a puck possession clinic. Also Kane favorite player, and funnest to watch. I know now u got McKinnon and McDavid, super fast, but NOBODY could manipulate a defense, do so lot with so little, either slowing down, stopping up, changing angles, delaying, like Kane could. He slowed the game down to the pace he wanted it
Loved this team, very rarely does a team do something like this. The 2013 team was the best of the bunch. If not for LA, they likely would have threepeated
Patrick Kane is one of the best clutch players in history. He kind of embodies those Blackhawks, they aren't among the best teams of all-time but they played their best when it mattered.
With the hard cap, if you can maintain a good team for 6+ years and win a cup or two, that is pretty much a modern NHL dynasty, it's just to difficult to hold on to pieces, once rookie contracts are up, you have to start moving key pieces to pay the young stars you drafted
a Cup or 2 does not make a dynasty. even 3 doesn't unless it's in a span of time at least around what the Hawks did. the Hawks btw were good from 09-17, 9 seasons. WCF appearance in 09, were the 1 seed in the West in 17.
The Blackhawks dynasty has been severely marred by Patrick Kane's betrayal. Everything he has ever done in a Hawks uniform is meaningless now. His impact on the three Stanley Cups that the team won means nothing. He was such an important part of the dynasty era, and yet his legacy is utterly ruined.
We're throwing around the word Dynasty now I guess. Can't wait for people to talk about the Red Wings and Penguins dynasty because the core was there during the same time. There is a reason we don't call them Dynasty's anymore because they aren't the same.
I hate the salary cap, I get why they exist because of baseball and the Yankees. However the first issue is small market team owners are still billionaires crying about money. I get not allowing a team to outspend everyone in free agency but what about talent developed through the draft. The cap screwed the hawks before the dynasty started. Imagine no cap and they kept Dustin Byflugien the whole time and had kept nearly that whole roster. Look at the 2010 team believe it or not that roster was nearly all drafted by the hawks. Sure the flyers squandered having Sharp which was our gain and Hossa came here and proved he is a hall of famer after playing in three straight cup finals for 3 teams. There should be no cap on retaining players you draft it should be whatever you are willing to spend. Basically otherwise don’t call it parity you make big market teams develop for the rest of the league.
This was just a recap of the Kane and Toews and there Cup runs. Those two were not the main reason why we won cups. We had other players that were a huge part of are dynasty. You really have to have had Hosea. If he didn’t score in game 5 in the 2010 playoffs against the Nashville predators. We probably would’ve been eliminated in Nashville for game 6. Patrick sharp was a part of it too. Even Brent Seabrook made his huge impact in game 7 vs the Detroit Red Wings in the 2013 playoffs. I do think that the video is a good review on there time with the hawks, but I don’t think you really don’t know how great this dynasty really is if it’s just two superstars and a top defenseman. The hawks weren’t great bye drafting superstars, they were great because the whole team believed that they could do something great.
This is such a casual assessment, clearly this guy didn’t actually witness most of the hawks’ golden era and only did minimal research. How did you skip over the dozen+ guys they drafted before toews and Kane who ended up on the 2010 team? How do you skip over the Hossa and Campbell signings that pushed them over the edge? Or the Sharp trade? Or the Barker trade that brought in Leddy? Or the massive dismantling of the team after 2010? He just skips over everything
Sorry man, but not mentioning Marián Hossa a single time is from my point of view disrespectful. There were 3 Slovaks playing in Hawks during that time. Tomáš Kopecký, Michal Handzuš and Marián Hoss the Boss. I can understand that Tomáš and Michal (you even mentioned Michal once in a video, Even you mentioned Zdeno Chára) was not that big building stone of Franchise, but Marián was free agent after 2 loses in Finals in 2 years, so lets be honest, probably the most experienced player in a roster, so definetely, he was not just a role player. This is not a hate, this is just a view of myself during 2010s. Every single morning I was looking through teletext in TV just to see if Chicago had won and who from Slovak players scored or assisted. No matter what, keep doing what you are doing now.
also, the Marian Hossa comments are nuts. his playoff impact has become extremely overrated since retiring bc his leaving happened to coincide w the Hawks collapsing as a team. but they collapsed as a team for several reasons - Crawford got injured, Hjalmarsson out, Keith and Seabrook aging out, Sharp gone, Quenneville gone, Toews losing effectiveness, Panarin gone. Hossa wasn't even on the team for the first year of the dynasty, he joined in 10 to cup chase on a young team that had been great the year before and made the WCF. he barely scored any goals in the playoff runs, he became complementary.
