The BLACKPINK dancer who DEBUTED 5 TIMES? | KPOP's Unluckiest idols 🤦🏻‍♀️ #2 

Yeah, I agree!

I think I agree but I might not after 1 hour because period mood swings you know.

Hey thanks for the vid, next time could you do a boy group or boy group member, also a few wierd situations with bigger groups like the T-ara thing, etc Yes I agree, she really suffered. Also I liked your hairstyle.

BTW could you link Moon Jinsil's page. I want to learn from her.

Please react to Babymetal

Exactly...

I was also thinking the same she must've made some bank since she always had a market

Yes i think she is a successful dancer

This, she gets to follow her passion without the headache of people tryna snoop in every little corner of her private life, it's actually not bad.

She’s both-

*yang hyunsuk

To YG's dungeon with you! And all the 28 year olds.

@@SianaGearz thanks for the disrespect

man's a whole clown

yg can go f himself. if thats the case then why don't he disband big bang because all of them are pushing 30

She did a few smaller kpop group dance choreo as seen from her Instagram posts

@@smileysana3722 it was shown on the video.

Yeri joined red velvet later, but both her and the group is doing great tho?

Well there are also some example, where the group gained more success after member change. Exid for example, Red Velvet, and if the scandal through Hyunjoo wouldn't have happend April was gaining more and more success in 2020. But yeah, there are way more examples of the groups going down.

I mean Kara became like the second best selling 2nd gen GG after Hara and Jiyoung were added.

unless you're yeri

More like unless it's a group from big companies

I thought the masked dancer name was Kang Riye?

That WASN'T Handong???? I thought she just wore a mask because it suited the concept??

@@user-kh5pb6kv4r I can’t tell if you’re joking or being serious lol

@@k2943 Im being serious I really didn't know it was someone else. I don't watch many performance so I guess I didn't notice and just assumed it was her.

@@user-kh5pb6kv4r oh sorry if I sounded rude, but Handong was in China competing on Idol Producer and do to Covid, she had to stay in China for a pretty long time for the Scream and Boca eras

Or debut in the slightly smaller but we'll known companies like starship etc

@@godslittlecrayola yah If you debut in Starship woollim fantagio and FNC and KQ then the debut will be fine

@N3K0NAK0 well it’s just luck there’s gonna probably be another group that will get really lucky as well

@@mysteriogaming478 not necessarily. Hello Venus was in Fantagio and they werent super popular. Lovelyz is also fairly underrated, and AOA got super lucky that they changed concepts at the right time, or else they would've remained unpopular

So truee

oh you are totally right! I can't even name one company of western artists but in the Kpop industry you automatically garner a lot of attention when you are in a big company

It’s different cultures as well the celebrity life can be way different as well

Totally agree.

You just took the words out of my mouth

i only know RCA records because they're awful at promoting (britney spears [since 2012], christina aguilera, normani..)

Possibly that one woman was funding it and wanted to debut but they said that maybe they'd do better as a group and got one together. Though she still wanted to be solo, when the group disbanded they probably saw she could get views by herself and went with her being a soloist. (I'm not sure, just a theory)

wait is honey girls the group made out of AV stars from japan. (Not meant as hate just genuine question)

@@cheesySOS no no no, I mean it is possible. But the Honey Girls Im talking about is a Korean group that debuted under LiZ Ent, released one track, that was a straight up copy of an EXID song (or maybe it was AOA), it had no MV. After their debut two of them left and they just disappeared and than their company switched ALL of their accounts to Chic Angel (their new group) and never acknowladged Honey Girls again. (And when Im saying EVERYTHING I mean EVERYTHING, like even their Melon profile, straight up deleted that Honey Girls album from Melon, i didnt even know companies can do that lol)

@@aprils1888 oh wow thats iffy. Well i remember some channel talking about that group made of Japanese (maybe with korean members too?)av stars, so I was curious

@@cheesySOS that was honey popcorn!!

@@lolo-no9pm oh okay Im sorry, the name is similar so I mustve confused them

like her past group, global icon!

She deserves better but not an icon. Stop throwing that term just because.

@@Written_in_the_Starss she is an icon... an ambitious icon, a stubborn icon, an icon that never gives up, an ispirational icon, a dance icon. Not a lot of people can be iconic like her. Slay on, Jinsil, you're a queen. Also who are you to tell me who is and isnt an icon, i can call whoever I want an icon. Or am I not allowed to complement people?

30 isn’t even that old. The ageism is real.

That's like some male idols, I forgot who exactly, but they came back in their early 30s and so many people were surprised they still looked handsome?? Like do people really think you turn 30 and suddenly look old and ugly??

Like Cheshir Ha, she works with Lisa from BP and just choreographed for someone else. Jinsil is a really good dancer so i would hope she can become a big choreographer

Yeah I was thinking the same

As in the girl that sang bad boy and Evertime we touch?

@@lisamitchell7912 Yes. Cascada is technically 3 members: one vocalist and 2 DJs. The DJs don't appear in their music videos, nor do they attend gigs, so everyone thinks that Natalie is Cascada by herself. I'm sorry, it's just as soon as I heard "Most people didn't know that Hexe were a group at all," I immediately thought of Cascada, because they're in the exact same situation.

@@shanetrevyllian2950 I used to love those two songs

Wait Cascada is a group and not just her stage name? I love Cascada

I always believe life give you what you dont want/pursuing...idk just how my life seems to go

@@yuki97kira i think lifes give you what you need and sometimes what you need is what you wanted and sometimes it's not.

I kinda wish people who didn't want to do that kind of work in the first place wouldn't do it because it leaves less room for those of us who wanted to...like I know a guy who is decent at rapping and popping but he hates it! He hates performing, having to interact with fans, the whole thing. Apparently he only started because a crush he had admired hiphop...so now he gets all the attention and others I know who want this and work hard are pushed aside.

@@shhd2105 yup

it really sucks. but i guess it's a destiny thing. v was always destined to be an idol. and sometimes no matter how hard we try or want something, it's just not for you. took a long time for me to accept this

Same

when I was a young kpop fan (12 now I'm 17) without any smartphones devices, I only rely kpop on television and radio. when there's a new unknown groups on the tely, I would focus on the backup dancers cause sometimes their are more attention grabbing than the group itself

You should watch street woman fighter!!

And if you go do something else, you have a training debt on you that would take 20-30 years to pay off. You think you can escape the sunk cost fallacy?

@@SianaGearz but if you don't manage to debut well all you are doing is increasing that debt. It's good to know where to stop.

Me too, especially when you started training in the late years after some time just leave. I mean she could have built an alternative career by now. Best look for her

Because one of the obligations a management company generally has is that they HAVE to debut an idol within a certain time period or the idol can walk away or sign with a new management company and owes them no reimbursement for training costs. By debuting “a group”, EVEN if only one of the members is ever promoted, featured or showcased as long as the other girls debuted and are technically “members” of an active group the companies have met that portion of the contract. It’s rare but there are actually former idols who have mentioned that they have been released by some management companies because they weren’t able to debut them, whether it be they were focusing their efforts on other groups or artists at the time, didn’t have the funds or simply didn’t have a group with a concept they would fit at the time.

you never saw the other members so how could be sure they were fine with it? 😂 they probably weren't listened to and brushed off when they tried to speak to management. the ceo or whatever was probably related to soye in some way. or they were dating. the other members had no power basically.

Big Bang : Hold my crown ls

Yk they treat men differently, the men can get old and become 'wine', but women should always be young.

@@555.J stfu you don’t make no sense

@@gonew1066 it’s true tho the treat them differently

She is definitely a contender for this series!!!

@@ploopy678 Maybe ryu sera?

I know her since The Unit last month, she's one of my favorites. :D

@Mary I guess it's ok if I do this here because her name already got mentioned here. Sera was a member in the group NineMuses or 9Muses in 2010 with 'No playboy' but left the group in 2014 after the Gun comeback (if I remember right now...). She started a YT channel (Sera Ryu) were she reacted to MV and Comebacks from small and larger groups, as she said, she's doing that to promote unpopular groups which in my opinion is a very lovely thing to do. (Maybe because her group, who had a lot of people looking forward but then didn't become so popular and since the girl had - to keep it short - not a nice time - and so some of them wanted to leave as soon as possible to debut solo (again it's only what I can remember)). She as a person is also very kind and sweet, she's a big fangirl of LOONA and DREAMCATCHER. I know her since she got - I think that it was in a @Ploopy678 video when she got meansioned the documentary. It's been a bit of time now but I basically watched the NineMuses documentary by the BBC which documented their debut (They weren't to interfere in their debut process btw...) and her face was the one where my brain was like "the others are pretty to but I love her face a lot and want to learn more about her"

Yes! Also Janey from GP Basic

Yeah, I’d also like a video focusing on that group cuz that’s wild! All that attention on just one member??

I agree

I mean didn't Olivia train at a diffrent agency?

@@kaeyasimp7330 I think she'd actually taken dance lessons

Is there any update for this?

Any updates?

Any update?

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I think more than ageing it's the standard. Kpop idols generally have age range btw 15-16 to 24- 26 yr old. So it is understandable why they want to avoid taking someone too old. But I think she does have potential to be dance choreographer.

@@Vor567tez Mhm it's not like career of established idols is over once they cross the 27 year mark? Look at Sunmi, Ha:tfelt, Yubin, Taeyeon, Ailee, Solar? Um Jung Hwa might be a little bit too much of an exception, she might not really be doing that much longer. But she did do a number with Hwasa just a couple months ago!

In the 90's a popular girl group kicked out a member after it was revealed she as actually thirty? Like if she was doing just fine,then why kick her out?

I think for an older person it can work if they debut solo.

Isn’t the masked member pink fantasy’s ceo?

Lucky I really want to see it

i saw it last week and i agree that it was amazing!!! but now i want to cry every time i listen to forever young

I appreciate the effort but I first didn't realize it until I read your comment, even tho I AM German myself lol. Thx for telling me! At first I very much thought that it was a different way of writing a number, like the 'hexagon' thing(?). I would just guess to try to be popular and to get the public to talk about them, because German is for some reason (I know 1930s to 1940s VERY ungly stuff...) extremely popular on the internet. {I know that (we're "popular") because even tho I myself usually thing about the things from 80 years ago, but then the internet also reminds me, no worries I can deal with it very good. :D (it's an emotional mix of: sadness, hate, a sprinkle of embarrassment [the kind were you almost want to scream because you can't understand how... much stupidity you have to have, just from hunger, homelessness, poor(-ness). Basically you know their past but you still can't understand how incredibly hateful you have to feel for those things to end up with these unforgettable things], and last but not least confusion for their ways with dealing with depression.) Like: wtf just *how* can you tor.ture others and can be like "nope that's perfectly fine". Oh dear I *don't*, never ever, not in infinite, like them. (-> they upset me a lot) Just call them pigs, they deserve it so so so... so much xD.} Therefore I guess that if someone said "oh that's German", then their group has a chance of becoming famous, as a consequence because people are talking about them. :)

Same here😭

The members of HEXE actually seem to have a decent relationship, so I certainly dont want to speculate the reasons behind the uneven spotlight!!

@@ploopy678 you're right, that was careless of me - removed my "evil witch" comment! added a more positive comment about the album name instead. 😊