The Bloody Truth Behind America's Ancient Anasazi | Native American Documentary | Timeline 

Aztec invasion?... What's the timeline ....my first thought was drought...then I thought of the Aztecs....but hunger will drive you to do that...The Donner Party!!! Just thinking

Eric Underwood, there are carvings of feet with six toes in Chaco canyon. Canaanite descendants were worshipped as gods, good chance this was all in ceremony.

@@xavierapples1405 that's believable...ugh!

Cannibalism was common in the past and will also be common in The Great Tribulation . May Jehovah be with us !!! 🙏💚🙏

Eric Underwood Exactly. That’s just the way history works. Pretty much all cultures have done awful things to each other at some point throughout their history.

Yep, if PC then the earth would still be flat. PC is a curse.

Too right really, pretty much [near literally] every culture and race has cannibalism documented at some point of their history. What they are 'protecting' is cowardice on their behalf and those who think they are responsible for their ancestors actions.

If you're a Scientist - *"Scientists who research or report on it, seek the answers - facts - wherever they fall - wherever they lead - One does not research merely to prove their opinion"* Mass misinformation can mislead the masses.

@@TheAtl0001 And don't forget about race realism. According to those pc sjw's we are all equal lol.

*Servals I concur with you 100%. Facts don't care about our feelings. I suspect that gentleman @ 21 min. 26 sec. is a typical American Career Democrat.*

Shadow Broker.. Cannibalism existed all over the world. It was the practice then. Perhaps the brain was not yet fully developed. Even in relatively recent times, cannibalism was still being practiced by tribes in the Far East rainforests. They knew no better. When we think of Ancient Rome, look at the heinous atrocities that were being committed even then. Throwing human beings to the lions was just as cannibalistic, or burning people at stake, etc. .. in a different way. The Anasazi existed way earlier. No one is condoning it; but, to reiterate, their brains were probably not as highly developed. Let's say the Anasazis knew no better.

AMEN!

So as an Aztec, have u not heard any of the stories told like these about ur people? Bc at least in the West are the Aztecs infamous for human and baby sacrifice and cannibalism, be it true or not. What are the stories ur told about ur people’s history?

U R 💯👍

You are wrong our history is a lie and much is lying in the basement of the Vatican..papal inquisition destroyed millions to bring in Christianity and included natives of other countries..they wiped out or tried to eliminate the history of the Tartarian Empire.

Really great video - archeology is finally catching up with the cherished stories of Native people.

Great to hear

I love Mr. Brown’s videos, and his videos on the Anasazi, are some of my favorites.

Wally Brown is awesome and full of wisdom!

This is why it is critically important to listen carefully to the oral histories of people whose ancestors were present during these times. Instead, too many archeologists poo-poo these stories as idle myths and tall tales told around a campfire.

Anazasi were not peaceful, they were the ones who ate other Relatives. Please never lie about Grandfather. And never learn from Caucasians, there is no truth in his theories.

Yes I saw it. Highly recommend 👍🏼👍🏼

I wasted 23 minutes on this and saw no evidence of who or what was eating who. Also the dating is complete speculation. Americans have no problem with torturing and murdering men woman and children. What do catholics do to the body of christ every Sunday.

You should send this video to him. This is why they were all destroyed. Sick

I watch him also. He telling of his people eradicating them for their evil still makes me think how bad they must have been. Maybe the makers of these shows should talk to the native elders.

Knowing the good and bad facts of the past allows us to become better people.

Agreed.

People will resort to cannibalism, regardless if it's in their culture or not, when in a dire starvation situation. This has been seen in all eras of mankind. Who are we to judge?

No one is saying that, many Americans have some type of Native American ancestry, that was the past ,we can't judge people today for their ancestors actions!

@@workingmamma5342 Donner Pass

If that was only true it would be a better world

@@georgedavis6583 Science relies on impartial, unbiased observation.

Findinngs can be manipilated and lied about

@@yamamahtayama6985 yep they sure can and are. Your point?

@whoimia? Well said!

That is the heart of the truth , this current “woke “ ideology is very destructive because without history being portrayed as it was , the same events will repeat themself . Humans who think they are righting wrongs by tearing statues down, rewriting books to a history of their ideals is not looking good for the future generations . Every culture , ethnicity, every group of human beings have bad and good in their history ….. you can’t change the past to make it right , learning the history and the where and why and changing the here & now. We don’t understand or face , what past generations faced.

Until God judges them...

Met Louie in a outdoor store in Durango many year ago. Didn't know who he was until the clerk told me. He picked out a backpacking fishing pole for me, which I still have. Many fish caught with that pole and eaten. Thanked him and told him I enjoyed his books.

They were judged, by their slaves who revolted and exterminated them.

I was also surprised there wasn't any discussion of the turquoise trade network from Mesoamerica to the Anasazi lands.

There’s proof that the stories you heard are true. I believe it’s actually this particular Anasazi ruins that this man is at where they found colorful feathers from birds only found in Central/South America as well as a blue paint made from an algae found only in Mexico (somewhere in the Yucatán if I remember correctly). Scientists/archeologists seem to agree and believe it likely was used, at least in part, as a trading post between people from the south (Mexico as well as central and south America) and the Anasazi people… and probably other native Americans as well. Although other people came through it doesn’t seem like there was a mixture of peoples actually living there though, the domiciles seem to only (or at least primarily) have been used by the Anasazi.

or they carried with them the love of ‘Sacrificial’ slaying like even the ancient tribes of middle east , not the Noe’tic people .

did you mis’ coral&agate(fossil wood) . polynesia was want of Sacrificial lives also... these as mixtec olmec etc are southern tribes tho’ their influence was surely felt here in the N. American lands..

Cannibalism comes in many forms. If you eat directly the bodies of your own people, that is one form. Another form is the indirect eating of your own...for profit. US Calvary Scouts were predominantly Native. They ate off what they earned from using their skill to hunt their own kind. Today, most US Tribes are by the same definition, Cannibalistic. They use the enrollment numbers and poverty stats of their own members to hunt and win US Federal Grants, which then only profit and enrich the Indians at the TOP. The poor Indians at the bottom are kept poor, thus enslaved to this predatory system. Of course lots of DC Democrats profit off kickbacks from Tribes, but WHO CARES. Who???

Tina Bean yeah I’d just say back, you’re not removed enough that’s why you don’t matter

He's a true scientist.

I'm sure he's sensitive to this but he is a scientist and he has to be objective. The truth has to be accepted.

Sorry but facts don’t care about feelings, science is the truth and always will be. If they get offended oh well, we must understand our history, be acceptable every truth. Not pick and choose if it’s real or not.

Good call👍

The Pueblo being not ONE people but the generic name for the many peoples that lived NOT in the cliffs.

The cliff dwellings were an escape from an apocalyptic world during a severe drought in the 12th century. The drought broke apart the order. Think Mad Max.

all of the effort and expense to create fortified and pen writable cliff dwellings would seem to a response only to a threat as terrifying as cannibalism, enslavement, extreme violence

Preach!!!

Exactly, sciencific topics shouldn't be explored just because it may hurt some people feeling. Facts doesn't care about feeling, if there enough evidence to prove this then it's true even though it doesn't agree with your feeling.

Science is a religion, so yes they can deny it lol

Amen

@@turtleb7170 How is science a religion?

But...But...My gender fluidity.

Hear hear!!

You are an idiot. A racist one at that.

@@joaquinthunderbird2785 calling someone a racist or idiot for something so long ago it is considered ancient is unnecessary and illogical. I am proud the Americsn tribal part of my heritage but I realize that people that may have lived in an area where my people lived whether before or at the same time may of had a very savage life style for whatever reason. Indeed in Europe there has been evidence of tribal cannibalism as well as just the drinking of blood. The fact is in North America cannibalism existed from Iroquois in northeast to Tonkawas in Texas. There is question whether the Aztecs, who practiced cannibalism, may have came from the area known now as the United States. Blood of the American "Indians" did not vanish unless some of it is no longer seen in many Americans with a known European descent but preferred to forget their Americsn tribal heritage. Right now the Caribe descendants are trying to deny their ancestors were cannibals claiming the Arawak. There is a quote from one of the Caribe talking to a early European merchant about the Awarak, "We ate the men and took the women."

Joaquin Thunderbird why don’t you go in your safe space

Ya I went to Chaco canyon as a kid and the energy is dark

You think the gila cliff dwellers were Allie’s with Chaco canyon?

@@artreyes9032 Certainly. They were either part of the Anasazi, or they were heavily influenced by them. Chaco was the center of what I believe was an Empire...you won't here that from modern Archaeologists, but being as they were a Mesoamerican culture, I think they were doing just like what took place south of them in Mexico and central America...Just obviously on a much smaller scale as the Southwestern Deserts could only support so many people. Just take a look at the pottery styles of all the different cultures in the southwest and you will see that they are all heavily influenced by the Chaco "Black on White" ceramic styles. Same sort of symbology which I believe means whatever their religion was it was very widespread. Even the Fremont had what looks like influence from Chaco. This was before the Kachina religion (Which began right about when the Anasazi collapsed and the mass migrations began) After the Anasazi left Chaco and moved up to Aztec Ruins Pottery styles began to change in a big way in all the different outliers .

I just ordered this book today. Can't wait! Thanks for sharing.

@@notflanders4967 You will not be disappointed. Mr. Lekson has a very interesting writing style and if you are as interested in the Southwest as I am, I found it exciting and incredibly eye-opening. Mr. Lekson also has a number of talks he has given here on RU-vid and they cover some of the basics and he is a very engaging speaker as well. Mr. Lekson is now retired and I kick myself for not going to see one of his talks he gave down in Tucson. Also, he's no kook or anything, he is a full on (Well retired now) Southwestern Archaeologist who did a lot of digging in Chaco and a lot of other sites. He was brave enough to stand up to the sanitized park friendly story of the Anasazi and really has tried to show what the Anasazi really were. After you read History of the ancient southwest, another fantastic book is "Prehistoric Warfare in the American Southwest" by Stephen LeBlanc. Yet another intrepid Archaeologist who has fought convention and tried to open up the true history of the Southwest. Also, Mr. Lekson has written a number of other books about the southwest, but are more scholarly and not written in the more popular style he used in History of the ancient southwest. Just look up Lekson on Amazon and you will see so I'm not bombarding you with stuff. :)

If a large agricultural, sedentary village makes - & inevitably breaks - pots & plates & lids & cups for a few decades or 500 years, that leaves a lot of sherds. Same archaeological record you'll find in Shangxi, Jordan, Missouri, Sussex, or Emilia-Romana.

I watched the same Navajo elder video today and was particularly struck by his description of mounds of broken pottery with a particular motif. In the oral histories of my family who lived in New Mexico territory from 1840’s onward, my great great grandfather told his children of great mounds of broken pottery with same black motif. They were not a midden pile but appeared to be shattered & scattered with violence & intent. He was at a loss as to why so much exquisite useful pottery should be shattered when as a general rule it was treasured as family heirlooms by natives and Mexicans of the territory.

Im not entirely convinced that it was the Anazasi that were doing the cannibalising. It doesnt make sense for them to go along for generations peacefully and then suddenly start consuming each other. Either they were victims of interlopers, maybe illness of some kind. Other tribes have the windego folklore, which revolves around cannibalism. Obviously, this isnt isolated solely to this tribe. My point is: there was a catalyat event that caused this event to happen.

Exactly my friend its in every person to survive no matter what

@ Rick Eldridge - watch the video. then you can learn what professional archaeologists theorize instead of making up your own theories.

@@anonymoose116 WATCH THE VIDEO

@@veryimportantperson3657 I DID

I grew up in Provo, went to Timpview and had many Tongan and Samoan friends.. Great Ball players even better friends! Thanks for sharing brother! 🙏👊🍻

If those are your people then go find them

@Unga, When I was at BYU, I and a Hawaiian friend put on a ward dinner by cooking a pig polynesian style in the ground using hot rocks. He said that when Polynesians cooked humans they called them 'long pig'.

@@geoffreyfoster8039 I know a few Liberal long pigs they can eat

Exactly

Yes, they were Mayan!

The Dineh claim to have mixed with the Cliff Dwellers. The Pueblos were all the many different peoples who did not dwell in the cliffs.

Remnants survived

Some returned & buried

There is a lot of symbolism in these stories that have a higher meaning, so those who can understand the symbolism can see a the more realistic story that the legends are telling.

Totally agree with you

I don't think he is a scientist, more of a historian, or an archeologist. As you all know history is full of biases and emotions. I remembered one of my history teachers said that no history is written without bias. If you were to argue that he is a scientist, I think he is more of a social scientist exploring past events and achievements to human behavior and relationships among groups, and keep in mind this can be riddled with bias because they are piecing everything together through the eyes of another time period, culture, etc..

@Santina Murphy bro stfu

Its not fair to recognize their pathetic feelings of white guilt. We haven't done anything that every other race hasnt tried to do to us.

@Santina Murphy simeon*

Cannibalism comes in many forms. If you eat directly the bodies of your own people, that is one form. Another form is the indirect eating of your own...for profit. US Calvary Scouts were predominantly Native. They ate off what they earned from using their skill to hunt their own kind. Today, most US Tribes are by the same definition, Cannibalistic. They use the enrollment numbers and poverty stats of their own members to hunt and win US Federal Grants, which then only profit and enrich the Indians at the TOP. The poor Indians at the bottom are kept poor, thus enslaved to this predatory system. Of course lots of DC Democrats profit off kickbacks from Tribes, but WHO CARES. Who???

It wasn't just natives who practiced these rituals, but also certain African tribes and even certain tribes in Britain or other parts of Europe. It's not a racial subject, but a human subject.

You know the answer to that question when mentioning the Jamestown Colony situation. Without relying only on science, Science most of the time is like trying to figure out who was there, what they were thinking and what their motives were from only their foot prints left behind. For awhile some people wondered if there was such thing as a race of subhumans called, "Big Foot." Including research scientists. Which I see as only laughable given how us humans in natural diversity when it comes to the height we can reach when coming of age can be clever when stiching up clothing to wear in the bitter cold. Our minds play tricks on us when we experience a quick change in the kind of emotion which we are feeling and the intensity of the same when encountering a surprising and unexpected scene. Same as when some people brought back an ill report about some people which led to their community spending 40 years wondering in the desert instead of continuing on to their destination as if they were lost which they were not. Only spiritually lost at the time.

That's interesting!! Why were you taught to stay away from there? What are the stories? It would seem the Navajo knew the place was evil with a bad history.

True👍

But people will find what they want to find. I think it's like Neanderthal man which to me never existed as it is a fraud. Yet the 23andMe actual believe in this myth.

Well, it does say something about what people will do when hungry, or when a culture's food supply proves inadequate to the nutritional needs of its people. I don't know how much precipitation the region had centuries ago, but it doesn't appear to be a landscape infertile for farming or fishing or even largescale hunting. The plains Indians had buffalo. ... But as I continue to watch, I learn of other factors, other influences, for the hunger hypothesis doesn't hold much broth, so to speak.

I'll just add to your comment since you've basically said what I thought. Proof of cannibalism in the past isn't dehumanizing. It's humanizing. It's something that has happened in the past countless times. For today's native Americans to say it's impossible because their stories don't mention it is to claim they are above all other humans. They aren't. They're just like all the other humans in history. And news flash... it doesn't have to be due to starvation. Many human cultures in history didn't see other human tribes as human beings. It can in fact be a hint of a horrible human society... of which history is littered.

Yes most of modern human, of all race, have genetic adaptation to cannibalism. Most of human are immune or resistant to prion disease thank to our ancestor who eat the brain of our enemy or grandparent

Just like it hurts your feelings that Columbus never really found America? Lol

@Fred Garven this could be fun 😃. The Normandy Swim Meet, Waterloo Walking Tour, Love Fest between The North and South, 😁.

I think what hurts people's feelings is not the fact that their ancestors did cannibalism but that white chauvinists will use this as proof that these people were inferior or that the white colonization was justified.

@@MargaritaMagdalena facts don't care about your feelings.

@@bethklecha5945 "Does the kippah give that away?"

The Diné arrived in the Àmerican Southwest long after the abandonment of the Colorado Plateau by the Ancestral Puebloans. We savor the wisdom & poetry of the Storytellers & respect the scientists. Christy Turner was a good man.. And turns out the Hopi, Zuñi, & Rio Grande Puebloans did very well indeed where they settled (& remain today)

I blame Anglo historians. Check the Wikipedia contradicts most of what the Navajos teach about the peoples of the region and their history.

I absolutely believe you are correct about the Navajo knowing the truth. They know that Chaco canyon was a place of tears place were slaves were kept. So the question is why did they keep the slaves? It is told to use them for construction. But what did they feed them? And the cursed dwellers disappeared, they were not the pueblo Indians, they were just simply known as cliff dwellers. Then there were the Anasazi. Those people were said to be different not like the Native Americans. They had a different culture altogether. They were not light and when they left after about 300 years, they left no descendants. This is very interesting. The cliff dwellers built up in the cliffs for a reason. They were defending themselves from work? So the Anasazi would not capture them.

you don't know many Archaeologist do you?

Javier Mendoza how many do you know?

That's standard scientist behavior; in a strangely public setting using weird items to illustrate a point.

When I first arrived at archaeology camp a few years ago they were boiling a bunny that had drowned in one of the units to use its bones for science. I learned a lot there.

It was a bit theatrical. I remember reading about Turner in the early 1990's. I feel that the evidence is fairly convincing.

It isn’t a theory that cannibalism existed in many early societies of Europe also. But what was happening to a few in the southwest doesn’t mean it was practiced by the all Anasazi.

@@king_apache7138 i dident say they practiced it i just say scirnce has a problem with new theories also i know that cannabilism whas practiced by other cultures...

Rejected new studies because the"experts" don't want to give that standing up, admit they may be incorrect, and get to work again. It's about research and the truth, not their glory.

@@btk1213 yeah i see that alot a repeating pattern in modern day archeoligy it used to be normal to change theoriesafter new information comes out modern day archeology refuses to do that for example many many many geology experts have independenly from eachother looked at the sphingx in agypt and came to the conclusion that it has to be much older sinceh they can prove weather erosiun that came from watter but everybody literatly everybody in agypt who could change the standing theories refuses to acept that instead they iignore it

They dont want facts to get in the way of political agenda and propaganda.

these archeologists, are paid, grants, to tow the line, comply,, not think for themselves,,or they dont get paid..

Yeah, as if you should believe someone who heard from someone who then heard it from someone else who also heard it from someone, instead of listening to a scientist who actually looks at the evidence and only then makes up their mind

Well said

I don't think he is a scientist, more of a historian, or an archeologist. As you all know history is full of biases and emotions. I remembered one of my history teachers said that no history is written without bias. If you were to argue that he is a scientist, I think he is more of a social scientist exploring past events and achievements to human behavior and relationships among groups, and keep in mind this can be riddled with bias because they are piecing everything together through the eyes of another time period, culture, etc..

There opinion matter, but there is definitely cannibalism, I don't think they just kill each other for no reason, they need more research

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YQr4scI5G8E.html

Liberals man ...

You are what you eat...

Cannibalism is eating your own species not specifically a human thing but yea🤣

@@chriskola3822 I was going to say that, but checked to see if there was an other low ... lol

His argument for them not being cannibals is that would be mean.

or tooth strontium.

IBAV8N 2 ate?

Another great quote from Mr. Twain.

Nope...as the most amoral people always have full stomachs...

IBAV8N 2 BREAKING NEWS: We are Animals . We are Primates..!

@John Johnson Not really...the people who were later called 'Aztec' pillaged groups in North America long before they reached what's called today Mexico. By the way, today's "Mexican culture" is actually a White Supremacist, Patriarchal, Christian culture whose drugs are consumed, illicit proceeds are banked and weapons are provided by, guess who...

he's at stage 2 . . .

It can also go the other way.

@@copperlemon1 make no sense.

@@MR-nl8xr The pattern described is frequently inverted. self evident truths are recognized and respected, then it is suppressed, and finally it is reduced to a silly joke.

@@copperlemon1 We live in a post truth society where self evident truths are taken as not so self evident, where everything can be reinterpreted based upon the shifting opinions of other ideologies. It's frequently being inverted every which way.

I believe you. What do you think about Native American legend that say the Anasazi were giants? I think they had supernatural powers too.

@@MsLuminous, Half fallen angel, half man yep!.....Superhuman strength of course but powers I don't think so, secrets of the cosmos and knowledge yes.

He was a warm & conscientious guy. And his late wife was terrific.

Neither is drawing conclusions.

@@kristin216 Are you joking 😆😆😆 If you've drawn your conclusions from *evidence* then yes.. yes it is.

@@TradBarbie evidence based on opinions isn't evidence. It's circumstantial. Even the scientist in the video admitted it's guessing. So no, I'm.not joking. No need to be a smartass this wasn't a conversation for you.

@Brian Mino is this a rhetorical question?

@Brian Mino sounds like a personal problem. Hope it gets better soon😘

I agree J smith and how does saying the ancient Anasazi were cannibals demean and dehumanize modern Hopi Native Americans? its like saying that modern Scandinavians are sub human BC of what the vikings did, or that the modern Polynesians are demeaned and dehumanized BC of their ancestors or Modern Caucasians are characterized for what all our different and diverse ancestors did! There are horrible things that every ethnicity has done in their racial past... can't we recognize what happened in the past without people feeling offended by it

If by "horrid" you mean cannibalism, then it happens not exclusively in ancient times. In times of hardship almost all races are known to resort to cannibalism. It is documented to have happened during European dark ages. And it happened as recently as the 1970's during the communist era in Asia. It's really not as horrid as some people think.

because it's cannabalism, it's sort of another level of immorality but beyond that it's because this is new information which is shocking not the saying that it's worse then other groups. But yeah cannabalism tends to be much darker to most people.... and eating flesh vs drinking blood is different as well to many people. There's rituals worldwide of drinking some blood easpecially in folk medicines.

Isn't there a difference between between attaining sustenance from the consumption of human flesh and ceremonial ritual human sacrifice as performed by the Aztecs, among whom only the priests covered their bodies in sacrificial blood?

J Smith The Aztecs did it as a form of religious belief for the gods, not just to eat human meat when there was plenty of other food available.

most things that are called science is psudo science like the bs shape of the earth

@@laural3267 i hope for you and your loved ones that you were being sarcastic.

Ask a modern Puebloan. Or an Archaeologist.

Probably because for natives culture, family, and ancestors are everything so its personal to their contemporaries

But it's ok that the white supremacists in the Donner party ate each other. You don't dare find evidence of any other race doing this. The truth is, we are one race - the human race.

My father is from lake valley nm his grandfather was a Navajo medicine man once my brother went there with some friends and he got scolded very badly by my grandfather who said that they did bad things and not to go there anymore

So I was watching a video of a Dine’ elder telling the traditional story of the Anasazi , who were not from here but were invaders from the south who came in and practiced bad magic and enslaved people and practiced cannibalism . The cliff people and Hopi were already here and not related to them. The Anasazi eventually driven back south but left the place in ruins

They do that I think because children are on their Colorado vacation, and they dont want to start talking about the Cannibalism. At mesa verde the guides say that they would bury their dead in the same place they put their trash, ta know bones and broken pottery. But the reality is there is evidence of violence at almost all the ancient Anasazi sites. Its scary. Look up Cortez Colorado Archeology sites

Things are so much easier when there are ample written records and someone's grandfather, may he rest in peace, always used to tell the story of how the grown-up warriors cooked that arrogant missionary when he was a kid, isn't it?

That's cool XD !

Islands don't have the protein to support large populations of Humans.

@Se Ou not sure where you get the idea that I was flattering myself. My point was that cannibalism in past doesn't faze either me or my mates

Be careful

According to the Dineh there are NO descendants of the Anasazi. That would most likely make you a Pueblo.

Hey congrats 🎉 I strongly feel akin as well although my native history happened inVirginia. I love all these nations tribes and history. We should never be ashamed of what our ancestors had to endure and sacrifice in the name of life! That's why we are here!! In the horrific chaos of learning loving fighting and pleasure we are somehow evolving. Aren't we?

I know it!!! Ugggg!! Infuriating!!

Especially the ones with badges that get paid leave...go figure

@@ericunderwood8080 or society itself.

For every victim, there is certainly a doer.😕

As always killing and killed. Just a matter of who gets they're hits in. Eating and eaten.

But they weren't doing it just because 1 or 2 were hungry or deranged...

I'd rather die than that. Somewhere where no one will find my body.. don't want to be eaten either

Your comment is bang on! Check out Dark Histories and The Wreck of the Medusa for that very scenario, my friend!

The Anu-sazi weren't cannibalized because the invaders were hungry, just as Europeans didn't consume Egyptian mummy parts because they were hungry...

We all have it, but it wasn't always due to hunger. Often, it had religious or spiritual purposes.

They are different. Think for a moment going and smashing someones skull in with a rock killing them for land or etc. Then think of doing that and then carving them up, roasting their flesh over a fire and then chewing up their intestines and heart and then swallowing. I'd say it's it's quite a leap.

LOL, not just butchering but cooking them in a pot.

@@drpureinsanity I think he was reffering to the scraping off of ALL the flesh then boiling it in a pot bit

I mean it's not unreasonable to assume it might have been a part of a ritual.

IIISW ILIII “Professor Soy?!” Don’t go to college; the education would be wasted on you

Exactly. Someone simply speaking without evidence that "it's dehumanizing to prove cannibalism"... 😂😂😂😂😂. Someone using emotional words like " dehumanizing" isn't qualified to be called a scientist

Yikes!

How most of society is now anyway

Wellsaid

At the very least it should never be a consideration of history studies, it's not like finding the truth in the past is the same as making a weapon, or creating a disease.

Turner was very sensitive to the impact on associated NA communities. He was a warm & sincere fellow. Forensic Osteology/Anthropology made huge advances with his research.

@@generalputnam2990 impact isn't important. Only facts are

DO NOT BE FOOLED. There were BLACK, YELLOW (zuni elder said the chinese brought the peach and live on the other side of the mountain) and RED races Live in PEACE Until the WHITE man "discover" MESO america. The Chinese disappered, so were the BLACK, the move the RED all OVER, erase all evidences or hide them in the caves,,,,, I am pretty sure your ancestors have been eaten. Originally only WHITE EAT people, now they live in all COLORS.

Native American are CREATORS true children, they have been obedient and the remaining older ones are still faithful to the CREATORS and HONOR all LIFE. IT is not your Ancestors, as loving as they were, it was traumatizing for them to have to OFFER their sons and daughters to the "GODS" ( which still exist in high places)

@@wanjuchien4208 are you Zuni? you know what crazy i live in a isolated canyon area in the grand cayon but in my language we have a word for someone who is Asian.

Ay Bih then just about 4 or 5 generations ago you were eating human bodies. Thanks the Spanish and the Portuguese for bringing Christianity over here and stop your people from eating each other. If it wasn’t for the arrival of the Europeans, chances you wouldn’t even exist.

Denise Emond Right. It was common to expect to gain wisdom and bravery in ingesting people

Andy Stewart Lol same

Angel Blue women from our parents generation were heavily taught to be good girls and force that on the world, my mom does it too and I will never change

@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim me too! Lol

@@Gearsturfs what does that mean exactly? Does it mean to pretend they are not bad in anyway? That there is no darkness to be found in the blue angels?

@@Gearsturfs if I had to assume I might guess you are living in denial of who anc what you truly are in being human.

They went through the intestines of your relatives!

😂😂😂😂😂

Mickie Noel And the fact is, as far as I know, we’re not even sure that present day Native Americans in the Four Corners area are descended from the Anasazi. Does anyone know whether genetic testing has been done to confirm or deny this hypothesis? It could be that when the entire Anasazi civilization fell apart, their survivors fled elsewhere. It’s possible that the direct ancestors of the current tribes in the area moved in from somewhere else. There was a lot of movement between Native American cultures, and there is a lot of time involved, centuries.

@@fleetskipper1810 DNA has been done and its brilliant all Yanks are descended from Russians, nomadic tribes came over during the ice age and settled in various parts of the americas.

Mickie Noel natives think people are defined by their ancestors and are responsible for what they did

You're too right, OP. People just can't handle the truth sometimes and they keep looking at the past with modern eyes. Foolish mistakes they're making!

@@jasonjuelg5045 That's so foolish and ignorant. What in slam shell are they thinking?! Perhaps they aren't.

Do whaaat?!

Oh yeah cannabalism was very common in the ancient times.

Gives a new meaning to the phrase " *EÅT* *MÊ* " !

Look at the football team that crashed in the Andes in the 70s I think, resorted to cannabilisum.

People are using life or death situations. The football team in the andes, the Donner party etc This is ritual cannabalism. same as the toltecs and aztecs. Cotez saw this first hand in mexico in the 1500's.

Since the time of the Greeks...

just wait til millenials get old! lol

@@nugsymalone1247 most of us are already getting up there in age; that's the sad part about it. The oldest millennials are about 35 years old (born in 1985). I'm a 29 year old millennial (born in 1991) and am 100% fed up with the politically correct half of my own generation just as much as anyone else. There's unfortunately a reason we are also called "the trophy generation"..... Those entitled idiots really need to grow the F up!

Totally agree with you It doesn't matter about folk emotions it matters about the facts of evidence Nothing more needs to be said

I don't think he is a scientist, more of a historian, or an archeologist. As you all know history is full of biases and emotions. I remembered one of my history teachers said that no history is written without bias. If you were to argue that he is a scientist, I think he is more of a social scientist exploring past events and achievements to human behavior and relationships among groups, and keep in mind this can be riddled with bias because they are piecing everything together through the eyes of another time period, culture, etc..

They were the strong of the day. They had to keep up with the Aztec rituals. No disputing they were cannibals.

And there are even cultures where parts of a diseased relative are eaten to return the life force back to the settlement. And in other cultures enemies are eaten after warfare to celebrate victory. And obviously situations where disaster forced people to consume those around them. All of it are somewhat reasonable. And with the amount of different burial rituals (buring them in the ground, cremation, sky burials, mummification, putting them into a cave, and many more) consuming the dead isn't that different. And then obviously all the medicine made from egyptian mummies, which is technically also cannibalism, only that the dead was turned into jerky first. If their cultural beliefs demand them to eat human, so be it. It's not like they do it because they prefer it to other meats.

A tough subject. Aztec ritual canibalism did happen and this may have been exported to the Anazazi. There was trading between them however the Anasazi did not adopt ball courts and plazas which means the influence was limited.

Did you watch it till the end where they referred to them being victims of the Aztecs migrating north and it was a political... cannibalism and murder for control and power?

@@jarniwoop i feel like the aztecs did those horrible rituals simply because they thought that was the only way to appease their deities, i doubt they saw anything as good or evil while sacrificing people. Many native southwest tribes however do have history of morals and boundaries especially when it came to killing other people. There was no need for sacrifices like the aztecs, their religion was mostly harmless chants, dances and rituals. I believe these anasazi witches who practiced cannibalism were very corrupt and knowingly practiced evil just like skinwalkers in navajo culture. They are basically the exact precursors to the bad ones in the tribes they existed in

Telling the truth IS a political agenda, just like telling only lies.

@@larrybuzbee7344 that makes absolutely no sense. political agendas spreads falsehoods, its what propaganda is about.

Well, history text books aren't reviewed for accuracy. The author's got paid more for making Americas history look and seem better. Yes for some political agenda but for other wicked intentions.

@@larrybuzbee7344 can you say that again but make it make sense

@@its_jjk Depends on the capabilities of the audience.

I am a Navajo & I grew up listening to stories of giant tribes who ate children and small people. Navajo used to hide their children underground when giants were approaching. Giants would say I heard children playing & I can see their footprints. The giant then demanded that children be handed over. Navajo parents would tell the giants, we do not have any children, we wish we had children so we made footprints with our hands. The giants would actually believe them & walked away. These giants are probably the same red hair giants the Nevada Paiutes tribes dealt with hundreds of years ago.

THE BIBLE SPEAKS OF THIS ALL AROUND THE WORLD* Micah 3 King James Version 3 And I said, Hear, I pray you, O heads of Jacob, and ye princes of the house of Israel; Is it not for you to know judgment? 2 *Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones* 3 *Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron* Psalms 14:4 King James Version (KJV) Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? *Who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD* Psalms 106:28 “ *They joined themselves also unto Baalpeor, and ate the sacrifices of the dead* .” Numbers 25:2-3 *And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their gods: and the people did eat, and bowed down to their gods* 3 And Israel joined himself unto Baalpeor: and the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel. Psalm 106:37-38 37 *Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils* 38 *And shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood*

When they find the giants' bones then I will consider it seriously.

they have they just hide them @@johng4093

Exactly every group of people eventually ate each other at some point in history. Most of it is covered up.

@@NoName-mi8bm yes, I’d have to agree.

james bowie encountered man eating tribes while running slaves up from florida several times. the books name is "the iron mistress"

This is why we have open border!! UNLIMITED SUPPLY of AND. RENOC. HROME !! UNDOCUMENTED means UNTRACEABLE!! Our government needs to feed!! Figure it out yet??

@@lonewolfallen5222 Solent Green is people!

We are infecting politics into science and nothing good can come from it

@James Henry Smith I probably will regret asking this and should probably just ignore this comment, but the confusion is driving me crazy. What on earth are you talking about? First, you post a scripture that as far as I can tell is just randomly selected and has absolutely nothing to do with anything (maybe I'm missing something, but I certainly don't see the point you are trying to make or how this scripture could possibly be relevant), but you don't even post the correct reference for the scripture. I consider myself to be Christian, but that doesn't mean it makes sense to randomly post scriptures in any discussion anywhere. The proper reference for the scripture you quoted is 1 Corinthians 10:9, and it is clearly referencing the fact that when God saved the Israelites and led them out of Egypt that when they were in the wilderness many of them forgot that God/Christ had delivered them from Egypt and started engaging in idolatry and fornication, and as a result God sent serpents that bit them, and those that didn't have enough faith to look upon the staff of the serpent that Moses held up based on God's commands died from those snake bites. But as far as I know, no part of that story has anything to do with cannabilsm. Also, that whole story is about God's people. Only Christ's people have the necessary knowledge to "test Christ." Are you suggesting that these people were Christ's people and thus had the ability to "test Christ" the way the Israelites in the wilderness did? Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of stories in the Bible about cultures that weren't God's people that might be relevant to this civilization. And if you really are arguing that this civilization also knew of Christ I am open to the possibility that this particular story is relevant. But if they didn't know Christ you really need to find a story that is about a culture that didn't know of Christ for it to be relevant. I genuinely for the life of me can't figure out what you are even attempting to say with your post. Unless, of course, you are just a troll trying to prove how righteous you are by randomly spamming videos with scripture references without actually worrying if those scriptures are relevant or if your posts actually drive those who don't believe in Christ even further from Christ, in which case I obviously fell for your game.

@James Henry Smith I don’t remember claiming that my comment wasn’t insulting. The best case scenario for me is that you aren’t a troll and that you really were trying to make a much better point and that once you develop your argument better it won’t sound so condescending. To be honest, if I 100% believed you were a troll there really would be no point in responding. If our roles were reversed and I had made a post that didn’t read how I intended it to read that especially quoted holy scripture in a way that could turn people off from Christianity, I would want to know so I could make what I was trying to say a bit clearer. I’m hoping that you actually did have something important to say and that you will explain it more so that the comment no longer reads the way it currently reads. To you the comment probably sounds completely obvious and not simply like a religious troll who is spamming videos with random scriptures to prove how righteous they are. But I have to be honest, that is 100% the way it sounds to me when I read it as currently written, and if that’s the way it sounds to me I guarantee at least one other person will read it that way, too. It is comments like these that kept me from believing in Christianity for a significant period in my life, so it is something that is especially close to my heart. If you didn’t intend it to come off that way, this is a fellow Christian letting you know that at least some people might read it that way and it would be extremely helpful if you would expand your comment so it no longer reads that way. And if you don’t care that it reads that way and/or you really are a troll that is attempting to prove your moral superiority by abusing holy scripture then I have absolutely no problem if you take my comment as insulting. Someone who abuses holy scripture in a way that turns people off from Christianity to stroke their own ego will ultimately face way more serious consequences than being insulted in the comment section on RU-vid. And if you choose to believe my comment isn’t being offered in good faith feedback that’s on you. If I tell someone they have toilet paper sticking out of their pants and they decide I’m acting in bad faith and refuse to remove the toilet paper I did my part in telling them. It’s up to them if they don’t want to take the feedback. If I tell someone their zipper is down and they choose to leave it down, that is also up to them. If I tell a woman that her dress is tucked in her underwear and she leaves it tucked in her underwear, first it isn’t an insult, it is merely feedback that will hopefully save her embarrassment down the line, and second if she decides to leave it tucked in her underwear at that point it is her choice how she chooses to respond to the feedback. I have told you how your comment reads at least to me. If you don’t want to develop your argument further so that it reads as less insulting to some people, that is completely up to you.

@James Henry Smith The exact wording varies by translation, but the key is to go to the beginning of the chapter that says, “…our forefathers were all under the cloud, and that they all passed through the sea.” This is clearly referring to the Israelites when they were led out from Egypt since they not only were under a cloud, but passed through the sea. After that, verse after verse uses the word “they.” And in every single case if you look at the grammar, the only “they” to which the word could be referring is the forefathers that were under the cloud and who crossed the sea. While many of those Israelites were killed by literal snakes, I have no problem saying many of those same Israelites were killed by Satan’s followers and not just literal snakes. And I have zero problem believing that it’s at least possible that the Destroyer/Destroying Angel is Satan. But that doesn’t change the key point that if you follow the grammar back to verse 1 that the only possible group that “they” could be referring to throughout the entire chapter is “our forefathers” that “were all under the cloud, and that they all passed through the sea.”

How many people did your father kill

The book of cabeza de vaca’s journey is an amazing history. Life is gnarly. Let’s learn as much from history and science as we can.

It might be a good story but it's not the standard of proof.

Yeah I read captain's cook's journals and I think he said something about cannibals. Not from America but they did it back then.

In the National Geographic magazine from long ago showed cannibals were all over the place, and quite a story about them

He was from Jerez Spain im from Jerez Mexico 😂

Agreed. It Is also the source of a ton more ignorance and hatred. let's just agree we are all human.

@@music4music237 im scottish, and sawney bean was scottish, so why should i be offended about the truth, p.s. look up sawney

Its not because its offensive. All tribes down here talk of giants that came down here amd began taking people to eat for food. Not just us but other tribes as well. Navajos sent the monster slaying twins who received weapons from the sun. Other tribes sent their own people as well.

Those giants were super hungry and even wiped out entire small villages. In thinking this happened to the anasazi. Because only Chaco and this place are like this.

You probably won’t like a lot of police investigations when they make a case with ‘facts’ they like but ignore the rest. You really don’t need facts if you can persuade people easily

No he made a wrong assumption that he pushed even when the evidence proved him wrong

amen THE BIBLE SPEAKS OF THIS ALL AROUND THE WORLD* Micah 3 King James Version 3 And I said, Hear, I pray you, O heads of Jacob, and ye princes of the house of Israel; Is it not for you to know judgment? 2 *Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones* 3 *Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron* Psalms 14:4 King James Version (KJV) Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? *Who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD* Psalms 106:28 “ *They joined themselves also unto Baalpeor, and ate the sacrifices of the dead* .” Numbers 25:2-3 *And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their gods: and the people did eat, and bowed down to their gods* 3 And Israel joined himself unto Baalpeor: and the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel. Psalm 106:37-38 37 *Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils* 38 *And shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood*

nope he's 100% correct @@marieknight9385

PS... they are putting modern values into play, in the way that he says cannibalism is dehumanising. Yes now it is, but back then, food was so much harder to come by. They would need to fight to survive unlike now where we just float along in the world we've created. In a zombie apocalypse what's the likelihood that people would resort back to cannibalism when food supplies ran out? People would be fighting to survive. And many would do ANYTHING to survive. It may be a silly analogy but it's the best example I could do.

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honestly in this case the i can understand why theyre defensive. These tribes have been abused by white scientists for hundreds of years. I think they fear any info that they had a disturbing past will be used against them and their culture, destroy whatever respect and land claims they still have. Don't get me wrong, i understand why the scientist wants to uncover the truth, and he should. but I don't blame this really vulnerable culture for 1. suspecting malpractice and misinformation (which anthropologists have historically done with native research), or 2. if it is true, fearing it will be used against them. (for example, white people justified slavery by saying africans helped capture slaves. this info may have been a convenient exaggeration. even if it were true, it doesn't justify continuing to do it)

cognitive dissonance

You should hear the way psychologists who do IQ studies get attacked as 'racist' just because the average IQ in sub-Saharan Africa is 69. It 'feelz' like it could lead to 'racist conclusions' so it must be rejected for ideological reasons. There are many science deniers and it is usually due to religious or ideological programming

The emotional reaction comes from systematic genocide .....

True. And knowing he dedicated 30 years of his life about it. What a dedication

Always rewriting history to fit the agenda.

THANK you for saying that!!

Are there parallels to the collapse of civilisations around 1100BC?

That's because unless you happen to have been born with white skin, it's impossible for any negative behavior to have existed in any person with a higher a dose of melanin. Didn't do nothin isn't only for today, it's for all of history apparently. I love his deep reasoning, we don't do it today, so it never happened. What a moron.

I visited a prison that was closed 30 years ago that became a museum and they had an electric chair in the first exhibit....

Gavlick Apthesycerski mountjoy jail in Ireland (where Kevin Barry was hung) still has the hangnans noose and the scaffold (or gallows depending on where you're from) is still in working order to this day. It's not open to the public since mountjoy is still a working prison but the. guy in charge of his gristly little "museum" still keeps all the equipment polished and maintained

I'm Scottish🤗

em, that's not that bad..the assyrians are laughing at you from hgistory

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Karin Lynne Kucak link?

@@healingv1sion I don't have a link because it's a full feature film made by a man named Steve Quayle. And they show it on Vimeo. You would have to go to Steve Quayle's website, which is stevequayle.com where he lists all of his films including that one. It was very good, I wish I could remember the name of it. But you can find it there. It is the film that is about the Giants.

And the Giants ate a lot!!! But it's safe to blame this cannabelism on the natives, because blaming it on Giants is politically incorrect for the scientists paycheck. No more funding... Un-prosperous old age for the anthropologist.

Thank you Sis!!!! These other white folks think they know everything lol!!!

I saw that as well and the giants would easily be able to break the Indians bones