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People like Elon only come about once a century or so. We need to fully avail of his ideas and engineering talent. I thought the Boring Company was a a facetious research project funded by hats, and couldn't possibly turn into anything real given the cost and regulatory obstacles. Turns out they are actually doing it. SpaceX was a similar story. Never underestimate what Elon and the people around him can do.
I underestimated Elon till I decided to check and see if a private company had gotten to orbit yet, only to find out SpaceX had done it 8 months earlier. Shortly after Musk announced the Model S, and I became an instant acolyte.
QuantumBraced But you know what you're right, studering buffoons that become billionaires only do come once in a lifetime. The guy is no Visionary he's just rehashing other people's ideas trying to look for new ways to leech tax dollars. Really sounds like a high-school kid after smoking two joints. He needs to get his focus back onto Teslas bottom line before they run out of money. Another company this guy got into after all the hard work was done. It don't take a genius to steal a company out from underneath the 2 engineer founders when you have the board of directors in your pocket. The guy is a crook. He always has been even with PayPal.
ugh, whoever EQ'd those microphones needs to get a new career. Lav Mic's are notorious for feeding back. and these are ringing like crazy throughout interview
Rodrigues Bender voices are actually almost full frequency, ranging from the low mids (about 100Hz) which is the fundamental frequency of the male voice, to high frequencies (about 10kHz) which is the sibilance in sounds like S and T and Ch. This annoyed me throughout the interview also. Luckily the information was good enough to stick around!
You may not be wrong, but i have to ask, was this recorded from the sound board, or by an audience member with a camera mic? The difference is quite large, definitely enough to be thought of by a youtube 'audiophile'.
NiceWhenEarned RudeMostlyElse it’s recorded from a room mic I’m almost certain. You can hear the reverb of the room quite well. But that still wouldn’t change wether you would hear the slight feedback throughout. That’s what feedback is, it’s coming into soundboard and out speakers in room feeding back into the mic over and over
From a Civil Engineering stance, the entire idea is impractical. Every layer you go down, you need to practically double the support structures. Since the bores are mostly moving dirt, stability of the soil is also an issue. Even if it was solid rock, you're one minor quake from demolishing the entire sub-structure, and the second anything on the lower levels gets compromised you can look forward to the entire thing getting shut down to inspect and repair the damage. Then there's the COST. Holy hell, you know how much it even takes to dig a tunnel half a mile? Elon's personal tunnel is only about half a kilometer, and that thing is costing hundreds of millions, unless he's ignoring all safety concerns.
An I bet u a doughnut hole he m an his teams smart enough to use plenty rebar when forming prefabricated concrete segments = stonger than before by an order of magnitude
Hm. TIL that Elon has no idea what an immersed tube tunnel is. Good question by the asker. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersed_tube To be fair, I didn't know either, but I'm not in the subterranean tunnel business.........
I always say this man is like a present Earth has been given. We should really take his ideas serious. I really adminre this man. The greatest man in our time
Am i the only one that realizes the archaeological impacts of this? Not in a negative way, but in a positive way! Imagine the finds that might be made as these tunnels are being dug all around the world. Imagine when they start drilling these tunnels under Pompeii in Italy, Memphis in Egypt or Jerusalem.. I wouldnt be surprised if archaeology gets a second renissance of unexpected discoveries with this. Most major cities are built on sites that have been populated for many thousands of years, which in turn are built on top of ancient cities now buried. We could find entire whole buried cities.
I always wondered about this but first time I've really seen it brought up. Just like when the were digging for the Large Hadron Collider. IIRC it was delayed for like 6 months due to the discovery of Gallo-Roman ruins.
I've turned everything up to 100% and I still have to lean my ear in to hear this audio. >< Somebody get the people recording this some new mics/mixing equipment! (Thanks for posting it though) Edit: thankfully gets much better 15-16 minutes in. :D
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I was there tonight and it occurred to me afterwards that you need to engineer for the social aspect of this form of transportation as well. A closed space with a captive audience and no police would be great for opportunistic criminals. Think about all the ways it could be used- both positive and negative.
Petrichor Guards would be expensive, it’s a valid concern but it’s not as if people can’t do bad things to a bus or subway etc. If enough people would carry a gun then there wouldn’t be many criminals trying to “hijack” a pod
Simply a security camera and an AI responding to alarming sounds in the pod would be enough to reroute the pod to the nearest police station automatically. Pull a prank on the system once, get banned for a month from the system. Police / Emergency response teams and hospitals would have their own entries. Larger hospitals probably several directly on the right wing. It would be like delivering criminals right at the police station that would stop it immediately. But humans are creative they will find other ways to do criminal acts. Just package the kidnapped person unconscious prior to boarding and let it deliver a package anywhere to "the customer who bought the package".
Quality of sound is so weird, that I feel it almost boring. Please make future sessions more pleasant to hear. Thank you. It was pleasure to hear Musk’s vision. I share his vision and believe that it will happen soon.
"will happen soon"... that aged, but it didn't age well. Musk gave us 22mph teslas with drivers in tiny, single lane tunnels, and took over a year to go a short distance.
When Elon is explaining the issues in with construction at 28:00 some of the specific things he's saying get cut off by audio issues ("issues"?). Anyone have any idea what the few problems we couldn't hear are?
Make sure you have backup generators. Although, I'm sure you've thought of this already. It would be quite dangerous to be trapped in an underground tunnel without light. Especially for women. Thank you for sharing. You are a true visionary.
It will be interesting to see if they can actually reduce the time of construction and the cost so the plans become possible. I guess it will be up to how "up to date" tunneling technology really is and what improvements if any rocket engineers can have to offer. Elon is involved so i expect some progress. But will it be big enough for the plans suggested? Time will tell.
FYI: Gotthard Base Tunnel used the tunnel material to create the walls of the tunnel, manufacturing the concrete segments to line the tunnel onsite. This is not a new concept. Please, can you shed some light on why a TBM cannot dig through soft rock very well?
I was missing the most important bit, what cost pr km lane? current vs hoped. And the elevator premise strikes me as a crippling bottleneck. I really think you need to do a simulation of this with real traffic data for at real small area of LA. Every elevator location will need side tunnels going up and down in speed from 200km/h to not block the main tunnel. So if you intend to have an extreme number of elevators to compensate for the bottleneck you'll suddenly double the tunnel requirements just for exits on top of the merging complexity which has to be very dramatic in itself. Forget beautiful renderings that are void of reality, you need an actually working small scale scheme and I don't think the elevator premise allows that. Conventional ramps seem vastly superior. They can be far fewer with heavy flow and you can do the final 100+meters on surface roads. Any success of such a tunnel system will likely be taxed to maximum capacity until at least matching the existing road capacity. Demand will be heavy from day one. A single user batman style scheme will not work. Nor will carts. Where do you store those carts? how do you handle the logistics of getting them to where needed. Cars can move themselves. The redundancy is pure overhead. Just implement an autopilot mode for those tunnels and of course only EVs are allowed access in tunnels.
If you are using the dirt from the tunnel to build the segments for the tunnel, how do you handle the different composition of the dirt? The same goes for the blocks. Going thru different kinds of dirt (sorry, I am not a geologist) will result in different qualities and different color (only importantf for the bricks).
For color, they can merely paint over it I'm sure. As for quality of the composition, I'm guessing they factor in whether the weakest possible composition is still strong enough for the required rating, and if so having a stronger composition is merely a plus and they just use make bricks with whatever they get. The alternative I suppose is they formulate the composition themselves by adding in separated "ingredients" until they get a desired mixture, then form the bricks.
SuperSMT they win by burning fossil fuel? How does this play out when all the oil is gone? Or prices of oil go skyhigh. Meanwhile Elon's hyperloop will function fine for free on solar and other natural and sustainable sources of energy.
@@SpaceyCortex electric planes are something Elon has shared interest in pursuing the future development of, but its still really far off, so maybe that'll be a possibility in the future.
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As part of the public living in LA, please go as fast as you possibly can. Ultimately I'd hope you bore out a LA->Chicago hyperloop. It sounds like LA-SF and NY-DC are first, but please keep Chicago on your radar once those machines get cooking. You'd bring down the airline industry in a year after it goes live.
It's interesting watching the development of this boring activity. When you conduct activities in the earth you change the natural components of it and the structural integrity changes which can become better or worse. Hypothetically, if you had this project in NYC, how would you go about constructing and realizing this project without negatively impacting or risking the structural integrity of the existing transit and transportation systems?
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Kind of, but i heard that generally it's very expensive to maintain tunnels in long run. When you want to build so many obviously that should be addressed.
akhil katpally It is actually cheaper to maintain public transport than roadways, as there is much more wear and tear on those, most public transport is build around efficiency and once its works it is supposed to stay that way. also you don't have to worry about idiots on the roads as in a few years most of it will be automated.
akhil katpally And regarding the tunnels that is only partially correct, for most subway tunnels that is obviously right because they are not that far underground and construction and disturbances on the surface still effect them. The boring tunnels are supposed to way deeper than the normal subway. There most of the problems from up top is negated.
30 years from now the maintenance will be fully automated by smart robots. Anyway you can do standard maintenance in night hours and with good network you can divert traffic with not much delay. Having many separate lanes running parallel means you can service one of them at any time.
Whats happens in case of a flood? are there any emergency evacuation procedures if the tunnels get flooded? or are there water ducts that make sure the tunnels never get filled with water?
I was thinking maybe they have a some much smaller holes used as drains that would redirect the water down to somewhere else. No idea if that is horrible idea or not, just throwing it out there.
I do not think he do what technically not possible. He is very technical, he have a lot of stuff he said not possible. He just crazy enough to make something happen. He is an engineer..
The things noone can do it but the whole world for me to accept all.... Unbelievable the world you have built. I must live with the crazy world of poeples
A pod in a hyperloop operates in a vacuum so that means no air pressure and definetely no sonic booms. Very nice and actually being fully electric it would be very efficient as there would be no emissions from it.
Probably you wouldn't stack lanes exactly below eachother, you'd probably add other lanes in other directions and make it a real network. For example if in the picture of the network at 36:25 the LA stadium to South LA part would get "full" you'd probably better connect Leimert Park to Culver City directly, and South LA to Hawhthorne to lawndale which would releive traffic from the overcrowded part. Only once you've done all the networking part you'd probably start stacking lanes exactly. Before you would double the line Santa Monica - West La, you'd probably want a line SM - Getty, SM - Venice Marina From the airports tunnels would be leaving not in 1-3 directions but in 6-12 directions.
To be optimistic is to hope for currently unforeseen solutions to problems now and in the future to come. If all people world wide regardless of race, religion, sexuality etc...if all of us were presented with current day and future problems that need to be solved in order for humanity to thrive continuously, then the power of our minds will offer real solutions. One solution to a problem I can see is over population on transportation systems. What if medication is offered to a certain percentage of our population that are willing to be medicated. You see when a person is properly medicated then that person actually slows down and becomes less active, but active enough to provide for themselves. Some people love to be medicated and numb. If all humans were given the right to make life decisions that suit their personal lives then the answers to our problems begin to show and reveal themselves. Also if everyone were not pressured into a stereotype to have many children and buy a house and have more kids etc.........individuality needs to be promoted in order to create a new world order for all people world wide.
Elon needs to survive the Tesla short bets. Surviving the Short Rules: 1. Shorts have no worth until they are exercised so ignore them. 2. Short worth is determined by supply and demand only at the buy. 3. Short propaganda is always negative until it isn't. 4. Longer the time, the harder it is to maintain the short. 5. Proof of small wins extend the time. 6. Proof of small wins lowers the desire to sell. 7. The goal is to remove the will to sell shares at a low point. 8. When the shorts closeout (buy) in a low demand market, prices skyrocket with the panic. 9. Always have a good offensive strategy in the drawer because the shorts are always out there.
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When they want to use the dirt from the tunnel for reinforcement, did they say how they would cure the cement quickly enough ?
A lot of questions but not a single one about emergencies. What about a fire in a tunnel or at an underground terminal or a station? Are there evacuation routs or whatever? What about pressure and air systems for breathing, will there be any fail-safe system or whatever? What about security threats? How security will be provided? Possibility of terrorist attack. What about possible hacking of a managing computer system? There are a lot of relevant questions apart the celebration party?!
Basically the system will be similar with current subway. Sprinkler, emergency exit, monitoring system. If subway can work this can work. How? Well it is a very deep topics but easy to solve as long as you know how to design.
I was thinking...and got bored enough to maybe want to mess around with Gatsby. So, I installed it onto my Snow Leopard terminal running El Capitan. I do not know any programmers so I just found a bunch of Mac OS and Microsoft code on forums. Don't ask me why.
Elon mentions "using rocket technology for boring tunnels". Now i got this picture stuck in my head of a rocket engine on the front of the boring machine just melting through the rock ...
guys what if you make pods be 'on demand' pre-bookable that would require number of people for given cost function to engage the ride? that would also make people know each other more when tunnels are super dense
What on earth happened to Elon? O.o He looks so much younger and refreshed here... no saggy, watery eyes, smooth skin and even his mind and talking speed seem to have improved. WOW. lol. Maybe Grimes does him good... or he, for once, got a good nights sleep :D
I hear Tesla is finally getting passed some of their major over-automation problems, which would mean he can stop sleeping on his shitty couch in a conference room.
17:40 They are really great bricks. I think reducing cost by vertical integration, using manufacturing on site and materials from the dig, are a huge difference in cost.
This topic is very interesting and I would like to learn more about it. Is there any youtube channel/website/book that talks about building tunnels and covers topics like future innovations that could cut down costs? If you have any links or advices for me please comment :)!
Elon has a dream, and that's the start. He follows that dream with mind and heart... When it becomes a reality, it's a dream come true for you and me! So there's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day. There's a great big beautiful tomorrow... just a dream away!
