Do you know what’s the reason for no more isospeed? I have 2020 fx5 but 2022 looks much different. Tbh almost everything has been changed! Tires, rims, gear shifting, brakes, frame style even the seat too all new stuff. Idk if it’s possible or not but I would like to see comparing those two bikes.
Very helpful and informative video. Test rode the 4 last week, and the brakes were noticeably inferior to the Shimano's and didn't inspire much confidence. Bike was fast, light, comfortable, and very smooth riding. Even the stock seat felt good on my boney butt. For this much money, it seems petty (though probably not to the bean counters) for Trek to skimp on the brakes. Disappointing for a bike that is otherwise near perfect (for me).
Is the geometry comparable to the Cannondale Quick? I've had the quick and the geo on it is very good for me but I'm now looking for a new similar bike.
Fx sports 5, 2022 model is a horrible bike in every way. How could Trek produce this piece of crap...having created such a great bike in the previous FX sports 5 model. Why is everyone trying to make us believe we are privileged to have a smaller range of gears? The sitting position is just too upright to generate speed. I went back to my BMC Alpine today, a 700 dollar bike, and it beats this new trek hands down. I'm talking road riding but I'm sure this new model can't suddenly transform itself from it's slothful self when it's running on gravel. Read more
*Looked at a lot of options for getting my **Latest.Bike** . Great find in SAVA. Super light, nice components, really good value as it comes with many options only found in much higher priced bikes.*
The new (2022-2023) FX Sport models are a significant downgrade to the 2021 FX Sport. Trek did this to capitalize on consumer demand during the pandemic. Which is generally a pretty shady move. These “new” models lost the ISOSpeed, downgraded components significantly (GRX 810 on the 2021 vs. Deore on the 2022-23) and raised the price. If you want a CF frame vs. an FX 3, for example, try and find a 2021 FX Sport 4 which will give you A+ components, a better frame and a lower price since they’re 20% off on sale from what I’m seeing.
Thank you for the video! May be you can help me, what is the better bike the Trek FX Sport 4 or the Specialized Sirrus 4.0 ? Thank you und best regards from Sweden
Just bought a new-leftover 2021 FX4 Sport on clearance for a bit over $1200. It was a steal… 1x 11 speed, GRX group set, ISOSpeed, Shimano brakes. The new 4’s have just been increased to $1800 and have definitely taken a step w/ cheaper components & no isospeed.
100% winning comment. This is the right move. The 2021 is a better bike every way you look at it. And cheaper with deals these days. Trek really dropped the ball with the newer models vs. the 2021
Marin dsk better value imo. Don’t understand this 11spd when your climb gear is a 42 they have 46, 51’s. And I would like to see more why certain hyd brakes are worse or better. Considering they don’t see mtb environments all the time. I have entry level tektro hyd. Brakes and all I hear is junk don’t last. I’ve been smashing on them since 2016. Now parts yeah that’s been a challenge for finding brake/master cylinder Pieces. But all these reviews state in stock out of stock low quantities, so companies are compromising which is fine I get it. And these prices get with the ball bike world and put droppers on these bikes. Not one specific road only bike. -again these are very nice bikes thanks for your time. If In stock think the Marin dsk 2 or dsk fs are better value. Aluminum frame also I don’t think your weight savings will be a dramatic difference.
I have to agree about the brakes. Those ProMax brakes are no substitute for Shimano hydros. My wife's bike has a set of MT200 brakes. They feel nearly as good as the XT brakes on my mountain bike.
just to clarify 23.15 ounces is less than half a kilo,,,i haven't seen a fully assemble (push bike) bicycle with that weight..thanks for the misleading information,,,,,.....
Great review - does anyone know what the last letter in the Trek bike's serial number stand for? I was told manufacturing year. Mine is T - just purchased. Is this 2022 or already 2023 (i think R was for 2021)? Thanks in advance!
Help...Trek FX6 or Domane AL5 for a bike to ride around town for fitness. I worry the FX6 will be slow because of my upright position compared to the AL5. But I love the idea of a full carbon bike. Is the FX6 noticeably faster than the FX3?
I have a FX 5 that I recently picked up. The bike is perfect. Except for the brakes. The Promax brakes absolutely suck. I wish Trek would at least give a discount to accommodate for the shitty brakes.
Promax brake failure on my FX5. Brakes brought up to spec with Shimano MT201. 2 finger brake levers, more control braking downhill and in all conditions. Shimano far superior. Call Trek dissatisfied with Promax performance ask to warranty to original bike specs. Search FX5 Arizona for a person that got his brakes and saddle warranteed to specs.
Heartily agree with the comments about the brakes. I’m in the UK and bought a 2023 FX3, the website said that they could substitute components so I was disappointed but not surprised that I got Tektro instead of shimano MT201 leavers and UR300 callipers. I complained to Trek that I was essentially sup0ied with an FX2.5 with no reduction in price. I didn’t expect a reply but in fairness they replied back the same day and offered to source me a correctly built bike, turns out NONE of the UK inventory had the brakes as specified. They offered to pay my local bike shop to source and fit the correct brakes so a happy ending. They should at least offer the customer some money off if they supply inferior components, the excuse is that the components are ‘equivalent’ spent really cut it for me. So, long story short, if you find the components are not to spec then do complain, you may find they deal with the issue. Hopefully the supply chain issues post COVID are sorting themselves out and this isn’t an issue going forward, it really damages the brand.
I'd call that a deal killer on the Sport 5, to be paying for Shimano brakes and getting some cheap generics! Does this happen if I were to order a Sport 6 because, I'd be paying about $800 more but if they don't switch out parts than it's a better deal, even though I'm not crazy about a flat black paint job. Please don't tell me they do the same thing on the Sport 6 because than I'd be looking for another brand and another bike shop that deals other brands.
Couldn’t believe my LBS had the 2022 FX 5, medium in stock, blue smoke. I’m 5’ 9.5” with about a 30” inseam. The medium seemed right for me. Put a down payment on it and heading back this week to pick it up. Man, good catch on the brakes. I’m anxious to see which ones are on this bike. Since Trek specs it with the Shimano’s can I ask them to swap them out when they come in stock? I would think Trek would have to honor this. LBS also marked up bike to 2045 but I’m guessing they know how rare it is to find right now. Thanks for great review.
Thank you too! Glad that worked out :) and I would try asking them about the brakes since that is pretty strange. Maybe you could at least get a discount or something if they can’t swap them out
nice! im same height as you and leg length.. i prefer the "large" bike, to get a more up right riding experience. (i could possible have longer torso or arms)
@@TalalipopMTB I've been looking a lot at the Trek website and on the Australian site at least, it has a disclaimer at the bottom of the specs for each bike that says they can change parts without notice.
Just got a new FX 5 thinking it was identical to my FX 5 2019/20 model that got smashed.Boy, was I wrong I'm very disappointed; this is way inferior for the road: slower and doesn't handle half as well. Seems Trek have abandoned road riding with this departure and moved to gravel/off road. If you're looking for a hybrid road bike best look at something other than Trek
The 2021 FX4-Carbon comes stock with the GRX800 derailleur and GRX600 crank. So they DOWNGRADED the FX4 drivetrain for 2022. They also removed the IsoSpeed decoupler. And they downgraded the brakes. And they made the whole thing a bit heavier in 2022. In other words, the 2022 FX4 is $100 less than 2021, but SIGNIFICANTLY downgraded. What did Trek do with the 2021 FX4 GRX drivetrain? They put it on the 2022 FX5!!!!! LOL ……. as someone who works at Trek, you really should have mentioned this.
I'm interested in the FX4 for my first non cheapo bike. My LBS has both 2021 and 2022 models. I really like the white color of 2022, but it sounds like the 2021 has better components. And the 2021 model is on sale for $300 off. So you recommend the 2021 FX4 you think?
@@jcadvanced it seems like a no-brainer to me, especially at a $300 discount on the 2021. You’d spend more than that just to upgrade the 2022’s drivetrain to compete with its 2021 version. In my opinion the 2021 frame is plenty beefy-it’s the same 400 level Trek carbon as on the 2022-and I’ve read no concerns about its durability. And the IsoSpeed decoupler isn’t just a gimmick-it serves a genuine suspension purpose which is why it found its way onto various old and new Trek models. But, having said all that, bottomline just ride both back to back and get the one that speaks to you the most. I understand that the 2022 frame geometry has changed a bit from the 2021, so that’s also important to take into account. Good luck. 🚴🏻♂️
@@OM-sb2bd thanks for the feedback! I put a deposit down on a 2021 smoke carbon FX4. But I sure do envy that beautiful frame in white color of the 2023 model. 😍😎👍
@Talalipop MTB. Nice video! I bought a 2023 FX3 last week ($1049) but decided I should have gotten the FX4 Sport instead to have the full carbon frame. Went back to the Trek Dealer but didn't really like the colors and that it had the same Deore components as the FX3 I was exchanging so I ordered a 2023 FX5 in Red Carbon Smoke for $2099. Do you think the 2023 Trek FX Sport 5 will be worth double the cost of the 2023 FX3 I had a week? I’m mostly a runner but plan on biking once a week between 15 to 50 miles. Thank you kind sir
Test rode the 2022 FX5 last summer at my local bike shop. The shifting was horrible, so either something wasn't installed correctly, or it had inferior parts. My Verve3 I'm upgrading from felt like the shifter and brakes were far superior. They insisted it was better than my Verve3. Sad for a $2000+ bike, as I really like the ergonomics of the new FX sport series.
That is definitely strange. The Verve 3 shifting is pretty good, but yeah it sounds like they didn’t adjust it properly. Maybe try out another FX bike if you find one just to make sure. All the ones at our store seem pretty smooth, but the GRX drivetrain in general is a bit louder.
Hey dude great vid! The fx 5 you test road , you said it was a size M? How tall are you? I’m trying to figure out what size to get. On a good day I’m about 5 9”
I’m 5’7” but you could go M or L for your size. 5’9” is right between those sizes so the M will feel easier to maneuver and control while the L will feel more stable at higher speeds.
love the colors and overall slopping design. FX always been a fitness hybrid but looking more like a dual purpose instead? good to see lot of mount points for bag and fenders on a carbon frame but not sure 1x will have enough "speed" as a fitness hybrid? I just picked up a Quick1 with 105 group with 2x11 same as my Tarmac Sport and it rides very nice. I will be selling the '19 Tarmac and looking to buying a x-caliber8 or a Marlin7/8 for light trail riding. 1x setup is perfect for MTB but for fitness and road bikes may not be optimal for speed.
Yeah it looks great! And I agree with your skepticism over 1x drivetrains for fitness use. It’s good for a gravel setup I believe but we’ll see how people like it for road and commuting
@@TalalipopMTB I am disappointed, that they are moving away from the road bike mentality for the fx, the fx are designed for road oriented flat bar bikes. If i wanted a gravel style bike i'd get a dual sport. I was thinking for my future bike i'd get perhaps a fx, bc isospeed and road oriented set up, no i'm saddened.
Was able to grab a 2021 FX4 in February... weather is still not conducive to full ride here- so far quite impressed. Where is the "standard" 2022 FX 4 and what changes are there? I guess there is no base FX4 anymore.
Thank you, Mr. Talalipop! Do you have the inside track on whether the aluminium FX range is going to evolve the same way - shorter reach, greater stack, and wider tyres? I also wonder whether Isospeed is a costly feature for Trek to build into a frame? The 2022 FX Sport Carbon 4 retails for $120 less than the outgoing 2021 model, and the cost savings seem to come mainly from the crankset and the absence of Isospeed.
I unfortunately don’t have any inside news haha, but you’re probably right that IsoSpeed costs a good amount to integrate into a frame. More parts and more stuff having to be designed to join together, but I’m not sure on how expensive it would actually be
One shade , flat black and same options except it has carbon rims which makes it two pounds lighter. Also cost several hundred dollars more. I like the five in that red color.
I picked up my 2022 FX4 yesterday. It came with Tektro HD-R310 brakes, not Promax. I ordered a 2021 FX4 back in February but the 2022 model shipped instead. I like the wider tires on the 2022 but the frame no longer comes with Isospeed. I'm surprised this was not mentioned in the video.
Broooooooooo , omg omg what a bike what a bike omg i have no any words.... So so lovely 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 and always awasome review by u. Love love love it the video and bike.. Thankyou so much bro 🙏🏻❤️🔥😊
OK~😒Literally! ..THE BIG Dollar Question,..(most likely)..🤨Once damaged,🚖💥🚴🏽♂️…….(😇forbid!)…What level of cost would one be facing huh⁉️🙄😰😱🥺Don’t we ALL wanna know!!??🤔
@@TalalipopMTB But you & I both know that they (TREK) only cover “Factory Related Defects”…not accident/ rider’s inflicted damage…correct me if I understand this wrong. v(‘_ ‘)
That’s true, but they do have a program for carbon bikes and parts where you can get a good discount on a new carbon fiber part or frame if yours gets damaged for any reason
@@TalalipopMTB Thanks !! It’s good to know,..interested in the Domane! at some point in my life…but may have to settle for the ALR series tho’ f(‘ _’ )
FX4 42T FX5 40T. Really need a 46T or 48T or larger for fast long downhills or just coast after very high cadence. So a 2x would be if live or rode hills mountains.
@Talalipop MTB. Nice video! I bought a 2023 FX3 last week ($1049) but decided I should have gotten the FX4 Sport instead to have the full carbon frame. Went back to the Trek Dealer but didn't really like the colors and that it had the same Deore components as the FX3 I was exchanging so I ordered a 2023 FX5 in Red Carbon Smoke for $2099. Do you think the 2023 Trek FX Sport 5 will be worth double the cost of the 2023 FX3 I had a week? I’m mostly a runner but plan on biking once a week between 15 to 50 miles. Thank you kind sir
Just picked up the 6 and only until I got home did I realize that it had a Prowheel crank and Promoax brakes. Not sure what my options are? Is this standard practice or should I ask the trek shop I picked it up at to switch out the componenets for the once listed on the site?
I have the same Prowheel components on mine that I picked up this past Saturday. I believe it's up to Trek's discretion as to what you will receive. Let me know what you decide to do. I was thinking the same thing but after reading up, I believe they ultimately make the call on components. As long as the Prowheel is just as good as the Shimano, hopefully there will be no issues.
@@link-world I'm going back to the shop because one of the brake cables came off and started dripping brake fluid. While I'm there I'll ask about it. I am mostly OK with them having to switch out components. I just wish they gave more specs about the prowheel crank in case I wanted to upgrade the chain ring in the future.
@@homerfan08 Found this on the Trek site under specs listing for the bike. I'm still planning to contact my LBS to see what they say. "We reserve the right to make changes to the product information contained on this site at any time without notice, including with respect to equipment, specifications, models, colors, materials, and pricing. "
I was fortunate to be able to actually compare a 2021 FX 4 and a 2022 FX 4 side by side in a XL frame. Almost the same aquatic color. 2022 aquatic color is darker with black Trek logo. 2021 is lighter in color with white logo. Looking at both bikes from the front the 2022 frame is much beefier in carbon material then the 2021 model. it also weighs almost 2 pounds more ( heavier frame, tires, and wheels.) No isospeed shock control on the 2022 seat tube. Had this option on the 2021 model. 700X32 tires on 2021. 700X40 on the 2022 2021 model has 40 teeth on front chainring. 2022 has 42 teeth. A tad more top end . I also noticed a slight difference in positioning on the bike. The 2021 model stretches you out a bit more then the 2022 model does. You are just ever so slightly more upright on the 2022. I think Trek made the 2022 model more versatile if you want to take it off a paved road or path and it puts you in a slightly more upright position. Wider tires and a beefier frame that would probably handle more off pavement adventuring. The 2021 model is lighter, has narrower tires, has isospeed on the seat tube, and stretches you out a bit more for more of a pavement oriented fitness ride. Also noticed the 2021 model was still selling at $1819 and 2022 model priced at $1699,
Dude I just want to say thank you for this on point comparison. I have 2021 and was thinking to switch to the 22 model. But now leaning on keeping the 21.
@@Rootportz Thanks for the feedback Sam. Up date here.......Trek reduced the MSRP of the 2021 models down to 1499. Found one a couple hours from where I live . XL frame in quicksilver color. Dealer let me have it for 1200. Just got it a couple weeks ago so the weather here in PA is not exactly hospitable to riding . Also wanted to mention the GRX group that is standard on the 2021 FX 4 Sport Carbon model does not come on the 2023 model. Gotta get the FX Sport 5 Carbon and spend almost 2200.
This is exactly what I asked my local Trek shop yesterday . The 4 has a 42 tooth and the 5 and 6 have a 40 tooth crank. Does this mean the 4 has the highest top end speed? If so, that makes absolutely no sense. My local Trek store was intrigued by this as well. Do you really have to upgrade the 5 and 6 to a 42 or higher to be faster than the 4?
I just got off the phone with Trek Customer Support to get a definite answer on the difference in crank tooth gearing. I was told the rear gearing is not the same as the 4 on the 5 and 6 models so the combination of the front and rear gearing on the 5 and 6 is actually faster overall than the FX4 Sport. That does make sense as it would be impractical to have a 4 designed to be faster than a 5 or 6.
@@lg740xx I guess that's just as backwards as Trek changing the design of this bike to be more like the Dual Sport instead of flat bar road bike. For what it's worth, I guess I'll just have to see if it goes as fast I want it to go and if not, just upgrade to a 44/46 tooth in the future.
Hopefully, inventory and availability for these, including the FX6 will continue to improve. I'm not seeing a single one within NC or surrounding states. I've driven out of state in the past for these bikes, but there's abosolutely nothing around at the moment.
I called about the FX Sport 6 and the Trek store in Houston told me that they should be arriving in stores by mid May. They told me that I could even reserve one for a refundable 50% deposit.
@@85mackey1 I stopped at my local Trek store earlier today and was able to put down a 50% deposit on the FX6, scheduled to come in on 4/25. I'm looking forward to taking delivery of it very soon!
@@JimS870 I love the bike. I've put a few hundred miles on it at this point and it rides like a dream; quiet, light weight and ridiculously fast. I have zero complaints on the 2022 FX6. To date, this is my favorite bike for paved trail riding. I've been through a lot of bikes over the years but this one stands out!
I had the 2021 Dual Sport 4 up until a couple months ago. I sold it in preparation for the FX6. The DS4 is an awesome bike. My only gripe with it was its weight. The DS4 is fast but heavy although not extremely heavy. It was a very comfortable bike for paved trail riding, which is what I used it for 100% of the time. The 2022 FX6 is lighter, faster and extremely comfortable for long distance riding.
@@link-world I almost bought the dual sport 3 today and made the mistake of riding the fx4 and 5. I went in to buy the dual sport and honestly, it just felt heavy and the suspension seems not needed to me. Do you think I’m making the right call by buying an fx bike as a do it all ride around the block, short gravel ride, or very very light trail use?
@@hurt1704Absolutely the right call for going for the FX4,5 or 6. For the type of riding you mentioned, it would work out very well. The front suspension on the DS4 was never really used when I rode it on the paved trail and light gravel. So, it makes better sense to give up the weight for a faster, just as capable bike with the FX series.
@@link-world thanks for the response. I meant to say I rode the fx4 and fx6. That fx 6 is on another level and I love it! So smooth and fast with little effort. That said, I don’t know if 5 or 6 miles a day is worth $2600 😅
Videos Becoming more interesting, keep Going 👍🏻 Suggestion:- (1) Keep weight measure of bikes at last part Weight - 2:02 (2) Pls mention weight in Kilograms also 🙏🏼
I really wish they hadn't moved to the wider tires for the upper level FXs. Personally would much rather thinner road tires than those wide gravel tires.
Hey Talalipop, are you sponsored by Trek in some way? At 3.10 minutes you say the New Trek FX 5 sports is "a very very good bike and very great value". You do realise that a lot of people will listen to your review and go and waste around 2,000 US dollars on this shitty bike? On your test ride you looked to be struggling; couldn't generate any speed or much enthusiasm. Anyone who has had experience of the same named bike: Trek FX 5, but 2019/20 model, or any similar bike of excellence will be extremely disappointed once they get on this 2022 model. The sitting position inhibits power riding and so do the gears, which are clunky and limited in range. What do you reckon Talalipop?
