This week on The Breakdown we’re going to look at the last two teamfights of the 2018 Mid Season Invitational where the LPL’s Royal Never Give Up came back against the LCK’s King-Zone DragonX.
I know right, isn't it weird when companies have more than 1 product? In fact all of the big companies in the world have only 1 product, like Apple, Samsung, Toyota, etc.
Game world I feel like kaisa played a huge part into that. Reason being, yes uzi is an amazing adc. But he also confident in his play style. He knows when to go in and what to do. Kaisa rewards players like that greatly.
Jonathan Singh you're right Ez is a comfort pick and his teammates know how to play around his power spikes at mura+triforce and then again at seraphs.hes amazing to be honest
Supports play the biggest role in the team, they have to ward, control vision, protect the whole team,etc. Yet they are not recognised as much as other roles. Since ppl only look at the kills but not the assists supports made. Supports deserve better...
yea thats all true but theyre not the biggest role on the team lol, legit every other role except for maybe top has a bigger impact on the game, especially jungle
any time they show the teamfight at baron, just after bdd channels ult letme's q pops up next to him and interrupts it. Just look for the big pink laser switching off
It was good but I don't think it could've decided a lot. PraY was already flashing on Xiaohu so he was pretty done, the ult wouldn't even have tickled Letme and Ming had ult and was barely out of range. Uzi was full health too. I don't think it was that worth mentioning.
I agree with @anjico that q was not that impactful compared to the decision of KZ to spend all those resources for a single kill which left them in a bad position against people who still had their ults.
I don't think I've seen enough appreciation in the comments for the 450 CS on Uzi's Kai'Sa at 35 minutes. I don't think I have ever hit that in an hour long game. I don't think I could hit 450 cs in 35 minutes even if there weren't any opponents trying to kill me.
in the recap of the game. Highlight packages etc. They use a totally diff angle, further away, so you don't see the gum fall out. But i mean, he just won a title he been trying to win for 5? years like...i wouldn't have faulted the guy for just nervous spewing all over his monitor. lol. So many feels when these guys won man. Was so glad to be able to watch it live.
I still insist my opinion that it would be more insane that if UZI flashed behind KZ instead of into the baron pit. We see Khan and Pray got knocked up by Letme and I believe UZI would be able to finish them off. But still, Uzi did perfect in that fight.
Am I the only one who finds it kinda fitting that it was Uzi's shotcall (about the 10 second cooldown on QSS) and not just his mechanics that won them the tournament in the end?
The Baron fight, I originally thought Pray ulted for nothing, the blew flash on a single kill, then QSSed nothing, then DEAD. This whole sequence of his actions leads to his demise next fight, which is GG for KZ. After the watching this, he apparently ulted because he was scared of xiaohu.
Dude ur wrong Rng puts everything to Uzi since they know that they can win if uzi gets fed. U can see top laners building shield items to protect uzi. So do u still think uzi protect others? He’s just a guy who gets every farm from his team and every other things that team can give him. And he just got his first international title why are ppl considering him as the best adc when he never won world champions?
Cuz he defeated every ADC in bot lane， but he still lose 2013 2014( He brought his team into the final game twice) 2017 due to the other 4 teamates were not strong enough. Every team will protect their ADC, even faker shielded bang in last year. Btw, now he got champion by his efforts.
王艺潼 But there was no roaster change compared to 2017...? Karsa has moved to rng but still mlxg was the main jungler and also ur right that every team will protect adc but the thing is Rng puts everything into uzi. U know, there’s a huge difference between protecting and giving everything😁
Everybody forgets about qsses - its 3900 gold for KZ making the gold diff 2k not 6k and they need to have them bcs skarner and malzahar. 2k gold is not so much, and uzi was insanely ahead vs his lane opponent making tha team fight power kind of similar for both sides
it shouldn't be counted as a mistake when uzi flashed in dragon pit, he knew ming was around and able to give him shield, so he can attack baron for healing however he got stunned by baron, which impeded the stopwatch, when the tentacles are attacking
At the beginning of the fight, a small pillar from Ornn Q interrupt Velkoz's R. The play from Uzi is good, but the fight changer was that random Q imo.
When I'm watching the final games. I always wonder which fight is going to get the breakdown. I would love to see s breakdown of how you do "The Breakdown"
That's why Western teams will never amount to anything in the international stage unless the region in itself stepped up and take extra steps instead of always focusing on personal streams (*hints at NA*)
idk whose call isit to take the ocean drake and cede control over the baron pit KZ haf Illaoi/vel which excels when enemy are forced to facecheck into them, the obvious choice is ofc to just get control over baron pit and force RNG to come and check instead they go for a stupid drag which do what speed up the spawn of elder for like 1 min and ms hp/mp regen and risk losing the major objectives.
The only reason RNG wins because of Malzahar Ulti to xayah. And Pray throwing the game for overextending. All credits to Malzahar he's the reason why they win.
In this meta play for your ADC is OP and that's a great adventage in a competition that develops in one or two weeks (being playoff's in three days). KZ just play their 1-3-1 style, but that type of game is suboptimal in 8.8 patch and the teams haven't enough time for create new strategies. Also the type of game played by RNG isn't a popular style in LCK, so KZ don't play against this normally
Actually he's totally wrong. Flashing down instead of up would only be fine in hindsight because of Pray getting locked up, but in fact Uzi can't know that Pray was gonna get locked up and Uzi could have just died right after the flash. His mistake was attacking the baron after it because if he hadn't then he could have just walked out and get the new Janna shield. That being said that would not have meant the win and in fact would result in an entire new, different team fight happening which means for all we know KZ wins that fight and wins the game. This fight going the way it went meant that Pray got caught and died without QSS up and not using R in time. I actually didn't realize he had stopwatch though I also don't think I would say he should use it while in the baron pit, Janna came towards him for shield. It just happened to be that Illaoi had landed that skill that gets the tentacles to spawn next to him and hit. The tentacle did a crazy amount of damage, without that, Uzi lives. No way any other ADC main would have played that perfectly.
KZ can easily dominate KR bcoz they already understand fellow KR player's playstyle. Then they suddenly flop on International stage just like TSM. SKT is still the best team both in KR and International during their peak years.
You have to tunnel in how poorly Kingzone played in the entire MSI too, not like their LCK champion selves. Pick and bans have been awful, and the decisions in game have been atrocious in a lot of the games. In many occasions, they have chased the enemy when they were outnumbered, which just gave the enemy more kills than they had already picked up. If we look at just this final game, even that last fight after Pray was caught by Malzahar, followed by Vel'Koz getting killed, there were many issues too. For one, why was Pray so far forward, regardless of there being vision or not of the enemy? Pray was practically full build, with the exception of the QSS not being upgraded yet. There was no reason to step forward and risk being killed for those few minions when the minions would not give him enough gold to complete Mercurial Scimitar and even if it did give him enough gold to complete it, there was no way he had the time to recall and buy it since everyone is setting up for the big team fight. Two, after they got picked off and Kingzone only had three members alive, why did Peanut circle round the back? It's thirty seven minutes into the game, all RNG members are alive, RNG has two tanks and Janna shield, so even without the minions to break the bonus resistance due to no minions nearby, they can push towers down super fast against Illaoi and Rakan. If Peanut was trying to flank, then it's an even worse decision, because in a 3v5, you just can't flank, there's no chance of it succeeding. They potentially had the chance to stop RNG at the nexus turrets if Peanut had recalled, and they defended under two towers in the 3v5, and with Illaoi's ult, they could've stopped it being a finishing push. Three, Khan saw it was 2v5 when Peanut went from behind, and he tried to defend a five-man push on the inhibitor? Again, no chance of that being possible, so why did he stay rather than run back to the nexus towers? All in all, they had the chance to actually defend and hopefully do better the next fight, but they didn't and funneled in deaths one at a time. This one fight alone had many bad decisions from the team as a whole. I've been calling them the best team since 2015 SKT, due to their performance in the LCK, but after Day 1 of MSI 2018, all their games have been questionable, nothing like their LCK plays. I'm very disappointed with them.
Lizzy allen Lies above lies and you know it. SKT 2013 / Allstar SKT 2014. SKT 2015 and even SKT 2016. All these are stronger than KZ. Don't see KZ winning Worlds or Summer Split.
There's a thing known as power creep you know? Teams now have far better macro understanding than teams in the past, and yes that includes 2015 SKT. In the first place, 2014 allstars SKT wasn't even the best team in Korea.
@Lizzy allen I have to wonder though, why suddenly bring SKT in the discussion? From what i can see here, Dante simply criticised KZ, pointing out their pick/ban phase decisions and being unable to adapt to the fast paced meta. Though i agree that KZ is the best in korea right now, their dominance in the LCK being the proof of that statement, they do deserve the criticism being directed towards them, especially when they're playing from behind, they just seem to be unable to cope with the pressure in that scenario. Also comparing KZ to past LCK teams that made it into international competition seems a bit unfitting in my opinion since the meta have changed in such a big way with runes reforged not to mention tons of other new content added to the game and the fact that KZ which you yourself said to be the best LCK team that went to an international tournament, just lost. KZ is still a monster team though, i agree on that whole heartedly but they are once again missing something, and in the end it cost them the finals.
Karsa was looking to flank, Uzi attacked the baron to let them keep an eye on that instead of Karsa. Sadly Karsa failed but the idea behind it was good. Flashing downwards is a hindsight thing. Uzi has no way of knowing that Janna hits the Q into LetMe cc right around the time he flashes. The flash in the baron pit is the safe option. Before Pray got cc'd he was quite healthy and Vel'Koz was full. To me it's a weird way of looking at things, you're looking for players to do the absolutely perfect play in a chaotic team fight, which never really happens. You can look at any great play and pick it apart of how they could have played it better. His mistake was autoing the baron after the flash and not knowing Khan's Illaoi still had him tagged so the tentacle did 30%+ dmg on him and got him killed. If the Illaoi didn't still have him tagged then he lives there and the agro on baron means nothing really.
Well tbh Khan developed his career in China before and had some close friendship with Ming and many other LPL players. LPL fans didn't really blame Khan that much for the trash talk, but made a lot of fun to that "4 Chinese can't win" and "Best Top Laner" title.
That's one reason why Irelia mid is meta competively, an assasin vs shield does less damage than off-tank Irelia with passive up. I've always said there needs to be an anti-shield item for assasins, new Irelia is proving me right.
