The Brilliant Daisy VL .22 Rifle 

Thanks Michael - smart man.

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thanks but I kind of felt like a parrot after posting my comment and then seeing that someone else had already commented with pretty much the same thing except that I didn't know that the man also invented the v/l rifle. I was only aware of the fact that he patented the ammo. Anywho, I enjoyed the video and look forward to more

Glad you are here Wily.

It works perfectly - I'll have to find more ammo.

These are so interesting - some people yawn, but for me - a very unique and effective system.

Same here!

It is something different isn't it. Works perfectly. Thanks for watching.

Hi Kenny - I took one out in the mountains - so fun and pleasant to shoot! Someone has a recipe for making new ammo - I'll have to find it.

Hi Steve - that is the lowest serial number gun I've ever heard of! Interesting end to the story of the VL - I guess Daisy should have studied things a little more.

If I find one I'll be in touch. Those were unique rifles.

I'll have to find one. Thanks for mentioning.

USOG I don't know how hard they would be to find but he bought his new in the late '90s so they're not antique or anything.

I also heard those air rifles were pretty powerful and also rapid fire (they held upwards of twenty balls that could be rapidly fired). They evidently used to have firing displays for the Native Americans and it is speculated that having seen such rapid fire displays that the Indians chose to leave the exploring party alone.

There are modern air rifles that rival or exceeds those levels of power.

Thanks Marshall! Encouraging words always help. Have a great day.

Hello - A few people have asked. I'll make a video shortly. Thanks for the reminder.

Hi Jerry, I had one of those years ago. Fine rifle. One of the ways to accomplish S/L/LR operation in a semi is to use a floating chamber. I'm not certain that the Higgins uses that system but the Remington 550-1 came out around that time and also digested S/L/LR - and used the floating chamber. I assume the Higgins did as well. A long rifle only semi has a fixed chamber so only the long rifle has enough power to operate the blow back mechanism - which means - push the bolt back, eject the empty brass, compress the bolt spring, cock the hammer or striker; then the return spring returns the bolt to battery and it happens all over again. The floating chamber system uses the mass of the chamber itself to operate the blow back system since the short brass does not have enough mass and momentum on firing to do so. The short and long brass cling to the floating chamber and together they have enough mass and momentum to operate the action. Hope I explained this in an understandable way.

Hi Leroy - Here is a link to the H&K - which was a little different from a reservoir - I've seen powder reservoir designs, even liquid powder injection. The H&K is pretty close...and still didn't succeed. Hope this helps. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G11

I visited your channel and subscribed - excellent work!

Yes - great idea - I will ; thanks!

great!

Hi John, I've heard of this, and inadvertently even caused dieseling by over oiling the compression cylinder. The only thing I don't know is if the ignition of the oil caused higher velocity. Theoretically it could but petroleum burns slowly. As far as I could tell I was just getting oil smoke - which looks dramatic but maybe doesn't mean much else. Maybe someone out there knows more/better.

Hello, A standard .22 won't work as it has a case and the priming compound is in the rim of the case. The firing pin in a conventional .22 crushes the rim on one spot and that impact causes the priming compound to ignite, which in turn ignites the main powder charge. The Daisy does not have a chamber for a cartridge and has no firing pin. As far as power - I have not measured but penetration in wood is about the same as a .22 Long Rifle.

Thanks for the response but you misunderstood. I meant a standard .22 pellet, as in an air rifle pellet. Would it fire with just the pneumatic charge? Or is the powder charge required? I am wondering how much power the powder charge offers over just the compressed air required to ignite the powder charge.

James! I'm so stupid! - I should have figured that out. hahahaha - and great question. I ran to the vault, loaded a .22 pellet and it works! But....it is slow...maybe 3-400 fps. I think the narrowing at the chamber creates the heat and pressure - but you are very smart to know the gas is still useful - even with no caseless cartridge. Thank you for asking. I learned something.

USOG not stupid. I just didn't represent myself clearly. Thank you for your response and for looking into that. I have to wonder what kind of charge they used that only offered another 5-600 fps. It's almost like a solid oil as opposed to powder to create a dieseling effect. Thanks for all you do. I find your videos extremely informative.

What happens is you put the caseless ammo in a standard pellet rifle

Hello - Here is a link to the Voere www.voere.com/en/history/rifle-vec-91.html A very cool rifles - the caseless VEC 91

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns very cool indeed. I will have to add it to my wish list. Thanks for the info!

Something like that Scott : )

Hello b. griffin - You're on the right track. The compression of air creates sufficient heat when forced through a small hole for ignition - much like a diesel engine except diesel is a liquid and the propellant is a powder for the VL. There is a jet effect as well - but the basic concept is compression causing heat directed to an appropriate propellant. Hope this makes sense.

There is no fouling in mine.

Interesting, thanks for the explanation.

Thanks Pal!

That sounds pretty reasonable, at least as long as it's in good enough condition to all fire.

Thank you cal!

Also i must add the propellent is ignited from 2000c stream of air forced through i very small port... an Obturator (obturator/ignitor) to compress the air as it is pushed through a tiny hole. The air then heatedgets pushed through the small hole enough to ignite the propelent... im sure but dont quote me of this that the propelent is an after product from nitroglycerine.....

Hi Robert - Where are you located approximately?