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THE BROKEN COG - industrial aesthetics in THE ELEPHANT MAN - film analysis 

Rob Ager
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4 года назад
This film made me very sad as a kid.
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
Strangely I think it's very good as a kid's film. Simple enough narrative for a young mind to follow yet teaches about dark aspects of society.
4 года назад
Rob Ager absolutely. I’m glad to have seen it as a child. Cheers.
@davidlean1060
@davidlean1060 4 года назад
@@robag555 I agree. Once you tell kids 'the adults in this story are wrong', then you can get a child to side with almost every sympathetic character. I think kids totally get the story of a man who is at odds with society.
@MCCrleone354
@MCCrleone354 4 года назад
It made me very sad seeing it in my early 20s.
@bluesrocker91
@bluesrocker91 4 года назад
Watching this I keep thinking that the machinery/industrial imagery represents spreading corruption, or cancer in society. Merrick himself is deformed by tumours and growths, yet is an intelligent, talented and cultured man. Perhaps the message is that beneath the surface corruption there is still humanity, beauty and decency to be found in the world. As a side note, it reminds me a bit of the Chief character from One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest (more the book version than the film), where he has hallucinations of machinery and his belief in "The Combine", representing the industrial, mechanised world.
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
Ah yes, the Chief character was great in the Cuckoo's Nest book. Read it last year and was thinking a film version that included the machinery hallucinations could be amazing. Seems like Lynch was on a similar page.
@couchpotato3197
@couchpotato3197 4 года назад
Yeah definitively. I remember reading somewhere that David Lynch said that he thought the industrial world of Erasehead was beautiful. Also, that the Venus statue in Twin Peaks was supposed to be about how you can be beautiful despite deformity (Venus is armless) Episode 8 of Twin Peaks seems to be about this too. It's all this insane ugly industrial stuff, but then the beauty of a woman. I think he thinks the beauty of people persevering is beautiful or something.
@jocaerbannog9052
@jocaerbannog9052 4 года назад
So Chief predicted Half Life 2.
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
@@jocaerbannog9052 Whatever happened to that game series? Second one sets up clearly for a third and then ... nothing. I thought the games were overrated personally, but pretty decent.
@jocaerbannog9052
@jocaerbannog9052 4 года назад
​@@robag555 I suspect Valve decided to instead prioritise making Portal 2, which is a nice game but not one I would replay within a 3 year gap considering its linear gameplay. They went quiet on Half Life until recently with their upcoming VR game, but I don't think this would blow me away, and VR games tend to make me feel too dizzy anyway. They seem to rely on the nostalgia value of the original games, they even gave permission to an indie studio to remake and update the first game as Black Mesa, but big personal gripe is that the alien environments dropped the decaying organic look for beauty.
@CaptainMorganThe3rd
@CaptainMorganThe3rd 4 года назад
As much as I love the nightmarish surrealism of Mulholland Drive and Twin Peaks: The Return, it’s The Elephant Man and The Straight Story that really affirm Lynch’s genius for me. That’s not to say they’re better or anything, but the fact that he can make such wildly different films while still maintaining his directorial identity is the mark of an incredible artist.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 4 года назад
Have you seen Twin Peaks the Return?
@CaptainMorganThe3rd
@CaptainMorganThe3rd 4 года назад
Stop the Philosophical Zombies I think it’s his crowning achievement
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 4 года назад
@@CaptainMorganThe3rd Yeah I really liked it.
@thomasscuderi3417
@thomasscuderi3417 4 года назад
Is there a better living filmmaker than David Lynch? The only rival to Kubrick for making works of art as dense and imaginative as it gets. We need more geniuses making movies
@BatDevilSpawn
@BatDevilSpawn 4 года назад
In terms of living American filmmakers, I would place Scorsese, Malick and Woody Allen just a bit above Lynch (Kubrick, Welles and Cassavetes are out of discussion for living directors). Scorsese and Allen are past their creative primes most definitely, but they have more great films than Lynch though mostly out of being more prolific. Malick is even less prolific than Lynch and it's debatable between them, but both have their misses and failed experiments. That's just my take. Definitely debatable.
@AlonsoRules
@AlonsoRules 2 года назад
sadly most filmmakers these days have to appease the political correctness party
@LikeSomeDude
@LikeSomeDude 4 года назад
“Who knows?! It’s David Lynch!” A line that comes up in EVERY analysis of a David Lynch film, no doubt. Hilarious! Also, brilliant work once again; such a heartbreaking film.
@handsomebrick
@handsomebrick 4 года назад
Lynch holds his cards very close to his face. I love that interview where he's asked "can you explain that," and he just says "no."
@LikeSomeDude
@LikeSomeDude 4 года назад
handsomebrick I have TOTALLY witnessed that and must admit that I LOVE that about him! He is a true artist and auteur! Let the work speak for itself and keep the mystery!
@Sandra-hc4vo
@Sandra-hc4vo 4 года назад
@@handsomebrick i like that too.
@handsomebrick
@handsomebrick 4 года назад
I like thinking that the clouds represent Elephant Man's genes, it reminds me of that Midsummer's Night Dream line "and as imagination bodies forth the forms of things unknown, the poet's pen turns them to shapes and gives to airy nothing a local habitation and a name."
@jamesscottvideos
@jamesscottvideos 4 года назад
It's the most intensely emotional movie I've ever seen, and surely Lynch's masterpiece.
@big61al41
@big61al41 4 года назад
an extraordinary film of the sad life of john merrick...
@thoth8784
@thoth8784 2 месяца назад
I can't help but cry at the end where it shows his mother's face coming out of the clouds when Merrick is dying.
@paulangier7939
@paulangier7939 2 года назад
Making The Elephant Man in black and white was not Lynch’s decision. Even Freddie Francis wanted to shoot it in Colour. Freddie said that it was purely a financial decision. It’s beautiful as it is but Freddie said he could have made it just as atmospheric in colour.
@NumeroPerdido
@NumeroPerdido 4 года назад
Hey Rob, have you ever seen the Tetsuo trilogy? If you like the industrial visual symbolism of Elephant Man and Ereserhead you should check it out.
@jocaerbannog9052
@jocaerbannog9052 4 года назад
I only seen the first film and that was friggin awesome. Low budget, but visceral.
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
Yes the first Tetsuo film is wild. Had that in mind for film analysis for years. Not seen any sequels,
@maxmercer1931
@maxmercer1931 4 года назад
The cloud represents the diffusion of birth blood into water
@psyko9660
@psyko9660 4 года назад
I did a fine arts project about the life and history of joseph Merrick back in 7th grade. I didnt get a high score because they thought it was too graphic. But I felt people needed to hear about his life and tragic death. He was one of the kindest, humble, and grateful people that ever walked this earth
@taiya001
@taiya001 2 года назад
Birth defects are common due to pollution and toxic exposure from a number of sources. I wonder if his mother was raped by a factory boss; unfortunately this was common as the bosses said they would fire the woman if she did not sleep with him. His birth would have then be very violent as it was the byproduct of rape.
@Tomy_Yon
@Tomy_Yon 4 года назад
Best film I've ever seen. Was traumatized for years after this one. .
@niglschrvr
@niglschrvr 4 года назад
I was just talking to someone about this film today... weird how shit happens like that. Great video as always!!!!
@arnold-hu4vk
@arnold-hu4vk 4 года назад
It is being screened in cinemas again very soon.
@cjwright79
@cjwright79 4 года назад
anything with Anthony Hopkins involved is likely to be good. Love him in Westworld, and Remains of the Day, and of course Hannibal and Silence
@AbirTarafdar
@AbirTarafdar 2 года назад
I read in an interview that Lynch thought of Merrick’s cauliflower like tumours as being frozen eruptions of corrupted meat, analogous to the plumes of industrial smoke and steam frozen in time. So to speak.
@kylepatterson4413
@kylepatterson4413 4 года назад
Lovely and well-wrought work, as always. Even when our interpretations differ, the blindingly lovely nature of your presentation always leaves open and intellectually honest space to breathe, thence to differ, which itself (my interpretation here!) is a most welcome and much needed variation of how discourse between well-intentioned folk can take place. Would LOVE more Lynch pieces from you, personally, but part of the joy and exploration of your sites (for me) is watching pieces even on films I haven't seen yet. The Thing and Death WIsh 2 for instance I only watched after being intrigued from your pieces. Sorry to be long-winded! In short, thank you. :)
@Dadutta
@Dadutta 4 года назад
1 freakshow owner disliked this
@Mark-fv8vt
@Mark-fv8vt 4 года назад
8:36 John's situation here reminds me of a shot during Luke's battle against the Rancor in 'Return of the Jedi', which Lynch was once attached to direct. Luke also watches the space battle occurring as though it was merely an opera.
@willgold9989
@willgold9989 4 года назад
“Witness Mother Nature uncorseted, and in malignant rage! Two pence!”
@andygill1977
@andygill1977 4 года назад
I've read almost all accounts that exist of Joseph Merrick,including getting hold of a copy of Tom Normans book, of which there were only 12 ever published. I have to say, that although the film's script is mainly fictional in plot, it is the best depiction of the debase ,Whitechapel Victorian London you imagine when reading the accounts. The screenplay is fantastic , and Lynch really pulled toward his talent of monochromatic imagery. Lynch actually became so involved within the story, that he put himself forward to build up the latex mask that John Hurt would wear in the film. He made it in the garage of the house in London he rented... however it never looked exactly how he wanted it to therefore , no pictures were ever taken, and the piece was burned. Lynch , as you know is massively secretive about the pieces he creates. Chris Tucker ended up with the role of make up artist on set, and his creation is what we see on screen.
@richfan10
@richfan10 4 года назад
Brilliant rob really enjoyed that ... forgot Pauline Quirk was in that film 😂
@AntonyRotunno
@AntonyRotunno 4 года назад
Michael Elphick from 'Boon' as well!!
@richfan10
@richfan10 4 года назад
contrafib boon 😂 is that the miss marple on a motorbike
@scarletibis3158
@scarletibis3158 4 года назад
You are a treasure Rob.
@TheLees_LEE
@TheLees_LEE 4 года назад
Damn Rob, just watched the elephant man two days ago and thought you should make a video on it, how convenient. Thanks, why no videos on other David Lynch films however?
@AbstractM0use
@AbstractM0use 4 года назад
Pretty sure I saw an analysis on Lost Highway a while back, but he must have removed it. He has more of them on his website.
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
There are vids on Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive on my site. After i do the full analysis on Elephant Man at some point I intend to do Blue Velvet and Eraserhead.
@donragnar8430
@donragnar8430 4 года назад
Please review the following films: Heat (1995) Dead Man (1995) There Will Be Blood (2007) Black Rain (1989) Mulholland Drive (2001) If you do Liverpool will win the Premier League and Champions League (assuming you’re from Merseyside)
@phyarth8082
@phyarth8082 4 года назад
1:30 is Hippocampus overlapping over eraserhead head, Hippocampus primarily responsible for memory, name of the movie Eraserhead, Jack Nance head is made to look like pencil rubber head :)
@rjsweda
@rjsweda 10 месяцев назад
love your great insightful videos. happy thanksgiving.
@JessePerkins-ce6we
@JessePerkins-ce6we 3 месяца назад
Loved this analysis! Very, very insightful!
@flatboy2660
@flatboy2660 4 года назад
Great video, as always. Would you consider doing an analysis of Repo Man?
@morlockmeat
@morlockmeat 4 года назад
Just so you know, Rob, the real Elephant Man (Joseph Merrick), was told by his mother that she was frightened or injured by an elephant when she was pregnant with him, causing his early age deformities. Whether or not she actually believed this is uncertain. This, of course, was not the reason for his deformity, but Merrick was always haunted the story from childhood, hence his recurring dreams depicted in the film. Excellent film to analyse. Any Lynch film is worthy. This one is particularly beautiful in technique.
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
Is that actual family history of his? As far as I could tell from the accounts I've read the elephant thing was made up for his stage appearances and Merrick (who reportedly received 50% of profits) would act like an elephant on stage.
@arnold-hu4vk
@arnold-hu4vk 4 года назад
@@robag555 According to a biography of Merrick by Howell & Ford, his family believed that his deformities were due to an incident at a fairground when his mother was knocked over and frightened by an elephant. 'The concept of maternal impression-that the emotional experiences of pregnant women could have lasting physical effect on their unborn children-was still common in 19th-century Britain. Merrick held this belief about the cause of his affliction for his entire life'
@morlockmeat
@morlockmeat 4 года назад
@@robag555 - I won't say it's fact, but it's what I've read and seen from documentaries in years past. His mother was a subscriber of the idea that the elephant scare was what caused his abnormalities. It was said that this impression from his mother, brought him comfort and he believed it for his entire life. Fact or not, it's where the dreams in Lynch's film come from. Sorry I can't be more specific.
@phantomfire8228
@phantomfire8228 5 месяцев назад
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@phantomfire8228
@phantomfire8228 8 месяцев назад
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@phantomfire8228
@phantomfire8228 8 месяцев назад
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@phantomfire8228
@phantomfire8228 8 месяцев назад
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@253timeandtimeagain2
@253timeandtimeagain2 4 года назад
ROB, YOU'LL HAVE TO WATCH THIS! (Maybe a suggestion for a mini-analysis...). On RU-vid you can find David Lynch's "PREMONITIONS FOLLOWING AN EVIL DEED". It's a 1995 b/w short movie (only 55 seconds!) directed for a project that celebrated the 100th birthday of Cinema. It's shot with a replica of the original Lumiere Brothers camera, with a series of rules to follow: a single shot with no cuts, no artificial lights and no synchronized sound. Well, the result is just...UNBELIEVABLE! With a series of sets built next to each other, some brilliant (fake)editing tricks and even the typical industrial sound design, he pulled out a genuine miniature version of "Eraserhead" or "Muholland Dr.", a complex multilayered drama embedded with dream sequences, a dive in the subconcious of an anguished mother. It would be very interesting to hear your take on this. Dan from Italy.
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
love the look he achieved in that.
@simonemancuso3576
@simonemancuso3576 4 года назад
Great video as always Rob :)! I've been reading your analysis of 2001: A Space Odyssey and I made a connection with the Wizard of Oz, specifically when Bowman enters the monolith and exits the world of lies he is in. Couldn't the whole Stargate scene with those flashy colours be a nod to the concept of going 'over the rainbow', with the rainbow being the Technicolor?
@Thespeedrap
@Thespeedrap 4 года назад
Alot of those movies are more popular outside the cinema
@locoxoconostle
@locoxoconostle 4 года назад
I'm excited to hear that this is only part of a bigger project, because even this excerpt contains the most intelligent insights into this great film that I've ever encountered. Thank you for sharing your work.
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
Cheers, and this is one chapter out of eleven.
@nikczemna_symulakra
@nikczemna_symulakra 4 года назад
I saw it as a kid and later as a teenager and have been refusing to watch again ever after, because of dispear it planted in.
@DespotofAntrim
@DespotofAntrim 4 года назад
Great job.
@LSHTV
@LSHTV 4 года назад
This analysis had me thinking about movies in a different way.
@willo1361
@willo1361 4 года назад
i hate people who try and sell their assh-... im mean opinions
@santaincarolina6280
@santaincarolina6280 4 года назад
DUDE i just rewatched this and then i see you uploaded a video of it Damn, That made me happy. Always Love your content man! one these days i'm gonna muster up and purchase a few things from your site!
@kaleidoscopicvoid
@kaleidoscopicvoid 4 года назад
Are you considering Dune more too?
@samizdatbroadcasts7654
@samizdatbroadcasts7654 4 года назад
I saw this film as a kid, and found it quite disturbing. This was not a unique experience among kids I know, and we formed a sort of fan club around it while in high school.
@SoleMan117
@SoleMan117 4 года назад
You must analyze Dune. He who controls RU-vid controls the Universe.
@PoshLifeforME
@PoshLifeforME 4 года назад
It's a heart breaker no doubt, like Walkabout, Rob. review Walkabout when you can.
@cooltalktalks4944
@cooltalktalks4944 4 года назад
Thank you for this. I really enjoy your work. I would, however, really like to see a video of some of your guilty pleasures. Movies that are either light or maybe even bad but that you found funny, poignant or that reached you one way or another. We all have some.
@PoshLifeforME
@PoshLifeforME 4 года назад
Never, oh! never, nothing will die; The stream flows, The wind blows, The cloud fleets, The heart beats,
@youtubecommenter1199
@youtubecommenter1199 Год назад
Hey, guy from Canada here. I remember coming across your videos in 2017, and they gave me a love for filmmaking. This one especially. Thanks so much for what you do, crack on, old boy!
@ericfurst6091
@ericfurst6091 4 года назад
A list about the best books? 🤔
@christophermirkovich7290
@christophermirkovich7290 4 года назад
First two movies I saw on the theater at age 5 were the elephant man and Mommy Dearest....
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
You watched this on cinema age 5 ... and no nightmares?
@christophermirkovich7290
@christophermirkovich7290 4 года назад
@@robag555 i watch you channel for answers
@christophermirkovich7290
@christophermirkovich7290 4 года назад
@@robag555 My life is a nightmare LOL.... thanks for all you do
@lofihifi
@lofihifi 4 года назад
Hey Rob wonderful analysis. Did you like that film the lighthouse? I have little faith in newer films though this one looks different.
@couchpotato3197
@couchpotato3197 4 года назад
You have to be right about people being industrial objects. In Twin Peaks The Return (spoilers) David Bowie had passed away, so his character became literally a giant alchemy tool that looked like a teapot spewing mist. (Incidentally In the last episode we see a teapot spewing vapour too)I had no idea this concept was from Elephant man!
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 4 года назад
Industrial-organic imagry. Who prey tell does that remind me of? 🤔
@rodneysettle8106
@rodneysettle8106 4 года назад
This film landed Sir Anthony Hopkins the role of Hannibal Lecter.
@VibrationPsy
@VibrationPsy 4 года назад
Raw vega
@neilmcdougall4927
@neilmcdougall4927 4 года назад
Seems (seams!) like Dave is sewing between obnoxious human behaviour to noxious industrial imagery in his cuts
@Kram_Farkel
@Kram_Farkel 4 года назад
I haven't seen this movie for at least 20 years. This video showing the connection between industrial sounds and action in the film has made me realise why David Lynch has chosen Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails to be involved in the music scores for so many of his movies. My favourite is the intro for Se7en.
@drcrowlee
@drcrowlee 2 года назад
Fantastic. I would love to see your interpretation of some of lynch's other works, as well.
@dreiserrules9414
@dreiserrules9414 4 года назад
NEVER fails to pull out many a tear as I watch. Parts are almost unbearable. But brilliant.
@davidreynold7919
@davidreynold7919 2 года назад
Watched
@jfmm99
@jfmm99 4 года назад
This movie both haunted and entranced me as a kid
@jocaerbannog9052
@jocaerbannog9052 4 года назад
Just been googling "deformed people" and even the real Joseph Merrick actually looks better than many of the poor souls. One Indian woman was so unlucky to hardly have any sort of facial structure, her head looks melted. :(
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
Agreed, I saw her too. Terrifying. There's some really interesting stuff going on regarding the specific deformities of Merrick though, which I think have helped "shape" public perception of him in a unique way.
@pete9715
@pete9715 4 года назад
Have you seen Mandy 2018 yet? That would be a great modern film for you to review.
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
It was very unusual, but I wasn't keen on it personally.
@ketcherinthery5079
@ketcherinthery5079 4 года назад
I'd like to see you analyze Twin Peaks
@Peepholecircus
@Peepholecircus 4 года назад
Always great to get a new vid here : )
@Thespeedrap
@Thespeedrap 4 года назад
I never even heard of this movie but I know that Elephantiasis is a horrifying disease.
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
That's just nuts ;)
@mithrandell9239
@mithrandell9239 4 года назад
Wow, I just saw this after finishing an episode of twin peaks
@elizabethh560
@elizabethh560 4 года назад
This movie always makes me cry.
@carmensmithaguirre3049
@carmensmithaguirre3049 4 года назад
I would feel trapped too if I were him.
@ninfilms
@ninfilms 4 года назад
Fabtastic film
@tomjones2348
@tomjones2348 4 года назад
Well done, as usual, Rob!
@michaelshannon9169
@michaelshannon9169 4 года назад
Hmmmmmmmmmm...................
@thetezz0001
@thetezz0001 4 года назад
Good to se a new video mate
@francoisgermain3991
@francoisgermain3991 4 года назад
Amazing, as usual.
@punkfacexo6066
@punkfacexo6066 4 года назад
@ 4:30 "WHO KNOWS? THIS IS DAVID LYNCH" Even the great Rob Ager gave up on trying to figure this guy out 😂😂😂
@HeavyMetalSonicRM
@HeavyMetalSonicRM 4 года назад
Why do you upload to two different channels?
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
Because several years ago my main channel got blocked for a week while I was resolving a copyright dispute. Got the channel restored, but decided to run more than one channel as a safety measure in case one goes down. Collative Learning is the main channel, but i add lot of content on this channel from time to time to make sue a lot of my subscribers are following both channels.
@HeavyMetalSonicRM
@HeavyMetalSonicRM 4 года назад
@@robag555 Makes sense. I've been subscribed to both and was just curious.
@bartimisfoul3459
@bartimisfoul3459 4 года назад
Brilliant!
@AlohaBlade
@AlohaBlade 4 года назад
Haven’t seen it but now I want to!
@arnold-hu4vk
@arnold-hu4vk 4 года назад
Is in cinemas next month!
@ldog50
@ldog50 4 года назад
Do once upon a time in Hollywood!
@robag555
@robag555 4 года назад
Not a fan. Last Tarantino film I really liked was Inglorious Basterds.
@StGroovy
@StGroovy 4 года назад
When will you do the new Star Wars movies? Astonishingly powerful filmmaking, I think. (Tee hee…)
@peterjoyfilms
@peterjoyfilms 4 года назад
He did cover Empire Strikes Back which has some very powerful filmmaking.
@jocaerbannog9052
@jocaerbannog9052 4 года назад
I kept hearing people saying that the new Star Wars films should've gone in new directions instead of repeating the previous films. Might be worth doing a video of new ideas for the series.
@peterjoyfilms
@peterjoyfilms 4 года назад
@@jocaerbannog9052 The new ones are absolute garbage tbh. Soulless, incompetent products.
@davidlean1060
@davidlean1060 4 года назад
@@peterjoyfilms I think The Last Jedi is kinda good to be honest..yeah, I said it! I liked that it tried to do something different and I bought the acting performances way more that TFA. I was expecting a real turkey after reading all the negative hype, but I can't lie, I didn't find it that bad at all! It's not a patch on the originals, but that's almost every re make or retelling nowadays.
@peterjoyfilms
@peterjoyfilms 4 года назад
@@davidlean1060 I thought the acting was quite bad at times although that might've been more the dialogue, which I found very clunky. The characters are very inconsistent and the plot is basically devoid of logic if you actually break it down. The tone is very strange and confused too. I didn't think it was that bad initially but the more I think about the writing the worse it gets. Yeah I agree it is more original and interesting than the Force Awakens but it still relies on old scenarios and imagery too much for my liking.
@StorytimeBeaming
@StorytimeBeaming 4 года назад
This movie in black and white scared the shit out of me as a child. I couldn't sleep for weeks. Because it was a true story plus the elephant man was from Leicester my home town. It creeped me out!
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