5:57 Luke "I think I died, and then she stole Uncle Owen's farm, and then started using my surname." It's actually offensive that this is the official lore
George Lucas always planned for Luke to die in his version of Episode VIII, so The Last Jedi was true to that intent. Lucas also came up with the idea that Luke would exile himself before eventually training a female teenage padawan, as happened with Rey. Those were not Disney's ideas.
@@jacksmythe2187 the Falcon belongs to Chewie after Han dies and it's always depicted as such. Whenever you see the Falcon, Chewie is with it. Rey stole the Falcon from the junker on Jakku, not Han. If she hadn't of done that he never would have gotten it back before he died.
Even more fun was when "an entire legion of [the Emperor's] best troops" on Endor were taken out by an adorable army of teddy bears! Of course, Ewoks being cute was just a coincidence and wasn't a consideration in their design at all - only Darth Disney does stuff like that...🙃
@@namikstudiosThe Ewoks are shown the entire movie to be completely tribal and savage creatures. The only cute part of them is their physical design which means nothing to how they act in the movie
@@CosmicCreeper99 don't try and tell me that Wickett and co. aren't the very definition of cute for the entire duration of their screen time in Jedi. Even when they are going about being the little carnivorous savages they are, capturing the Rebels and carting them away on logs to be roasted in 3PO's honour, they're swinging around their little treehouses on ropes while yodeling! They are in the film for cuteness and comic relief - and they are a far better implementation of those than a certain gungan in another (non-Disney) Star Wars film, I might add...
The Force Awakens killed Star Wars for me, it died when Rey was showing up Han Solo in his own ship and Luke skywalker was a coward who left his friends
I thought the real sin with Han was how they made him an asshole who didn't care that his crew got eaten by the cargo. Just sociopathic. From badass to bad boss in less than 12 parsecs.
@@jiggycalzone8585 the fact you think I must be some last Jedi fanboy is hilarious and perfectly emblematic of what I’m saying. TLJ is ok, ROS is awful, and TFA is quite decent, but still nothing compared to any older stuff or Andor
Imagine if BB8 was legitimately worse at his job as a droid than R model droids, and people made fun of Poe for that, but because he like BB8 so much he was willing to mod his x wing to fit a smaller droid.
Sounds like a good idea. I really like the BB8 design, but it's stupid that it's considered a replacement for an R droid. I like especially that it's a weird concept that actually can work irl, as seen by many robot bb8s made by fans It would be cool if normally it was a less capable droid but Poe or some other character upgraded it, just like Anakin upgraded artoo. And it would also be great if they in lcorporated some of the logic into the movie. Like make it bad at rolling in the sand and they have to find another solution. Or maybe it has another trick up it's sleeves
@@DrTheRich bb could have opened their tool hatches to scoop its way over the sand like dune tires do, this would have shown bb as resourceful and allowed for some comic relief of Rey shaking the sand out of his ports upon finding him and then carrying him in her arms or on a sled back to town, could even have him still have some sand in him when they enter the falcon from the escape scene and leaving a trail as he tries to shake it out and have that trail be what leads Han to there hiding spot, man the really lost so many potential scenes and character building by ignoring the design problems of bb
I still think BB-8 doesn't belong in the Sequel Trilogy at all (even though he's probably the best character) and would work better in an anthology story.
@@occam7382 My read was that it wasn't made for the same purpose as the R2 series. To mee it made more sense as an internal repair droid since it can move around in tight spaces a human engineer can't.
Yes but that was 40 years ago, was handled much differently, and in the grad scheme of things fits into Lucas‘ use of real life political situations in star wars, all across the saga
"...I think I died, and then she stole Uncle Owen's farm... and then started using my surname... I don't think I'll sleep again." 😂😂 Those were my thoughts exactly by the end of RoS.
@@jiggycalzone8585lmao. I'm not a star wars fan, I'm into star trek. But for once we have a common problem. These talentless disgusting hacks have ruined our favorite franchises.
I was accused of nitpicking when I pointed out at Galaxy's Edge in Florida, the moisture vaporators were surrounded by puddles of water. My point was that Disney didn't understand SW. All they knew was moisture vaporators looked like a Star Wars thing, so just throw it in. The fact that the disastrous Star Wars hotel shut down proves my point.
I think the big problem I have with the First Order (and the sequels in general, although TLJ is noticeably less guilty of this) is that there's nothing new kit-wise, it's all just derivatives of OT stuff. The idea of the Imperial style faction being the underdog would be a great opportunity to give us some new ships or troops more fitting of their role, like a flotilla of smaller picket ships rather than ships of the line. Or an evolution of the Tie Interceptor that gives them a fighter which can compete or even defeat an X-Wing. Seeing an enemy who has learned from the Rebellion and is actually deploying their tactics against our heroes would have been an entertaining new twist, and would have sold a lot more reference books...
I wish they changed the stormtroopers more. Clone troopers and OT troopers look quite different, but First Order troopers have smoother helmets and sometimes look like they have tactical vests, and that’s it.
@@whyiwakeup6460 there's a piece of concept art where the FO troopers look more like Scout Troopers and I think that would be a cool direction to have taken it. Like it's still an evolution from the Empire, but it's more of an elite tactical force
Pedantic, I know, but TIE fighters already had defeated X-Wings at a rate similar to casualties taken, as seen over the Death Star. While the ship was undoubtedly inferior the pilot program was extremely intense for the Empire and Imperial fighters were dangerous. It took time for the Rebel Alliance to be able to counter the Imperial TIE Fighter effectively and was heavily boosted through defectors who brought some of the standards of Imperial fighter tactics and skill. The TIE Interceptor was a comparable ship to Rebel fighters and better in the anti-fighter role than the X-wing, comparable to an A-wing sacrificing shields for greater firepower and maneuverability. The TIE Defender was an all around superior ship, but too resource intensive and requiring too much retooling to ever be made the standard, it also was far too much for purpose as a standard ship since the Empire relied on fighters for screening and not as the main thrust like the Rebellion did up until the end of the war. While it would be neat thematically and stylistically to see how the Empire developed a fighter-focused approach it wouldn't work particularly well within the setting and would feel almost alien honestly to what the Empire is, not in the good way of new and exciting but in the more subversive sense in my opinion. For the Empire to be on the backfoot we'd likely rather see more things like Thrawn's approach to fleets. It would be far too much of a demand to ask the Empire, especially one out of power, to fully retool the entirety of fleets and strategies for a fighter-focused approach. Rather, it would need to continue utilizing the big ships but use them as efficiently as possible and be a little more focused on ships of the Victory-class scale rather than Imperial-class, much like what we see in the Expanded Universe when the Imperial Remnant is at its weakest in the later stages.
@@pubcle except the First Order *is not* the Empire, nor are they an Imperial Remnant. They only need to have an aesthetic continuation with the Empire, they do not (and in my opinion shouldn't have) utilised the same tactics and strategies. Yes, having the bad guys have superior fighters to the heroes would be subversive, that's the point. It's supposed to make them feel like a threat.
I hate that they are already a big thing apparently at the start of the movie. And already be able to destroy the entire new republic before we even got to know it. I think it was more fun if they were a newly growing threat. With the new republic failing to stop it growing due maybe infighting or hubris, or demilitarization. And then maybe at the end of the second movie everyone would be put into place when the new threat turns out to be capable enough to destroy a planet. Leaving a devastated, demoralized republic to scramble to protect its existence.
Imagine watching BB8 roll back and forth trying to get the right tool hatch into a position where it can actually use it and still be close enough to reach the thing it's trying to interact with.
Even better at home in lit room on lcd screen with low view angle sitting on the coach. Likely conditions for any streaming show they creators does not understand.
A decade and a half and many rewatchings later, I still think JJ-Trek is complete garbage. I cant think of anything positive to say about it. It sapped my excitement about new Trek content so much that I still havent gotten around to watching any of the new series.
@@RictusHolloweye The funny thing is that I liked the first two seasons of Fringe, found the third… a curious mix of fascinating and unpleasant. It’s actually quite difficult to pin down exactly what I don’t like about JJ Abrams productions. It felt all a bit nonsensical. By S3 I was getting tired of the tediously slow drip feed of information, frustrated with how the enemies were always several steps ahead of the good guys. I mean they kidnapped Walter at some point and somehow magically knew that he’d implanted a tracking implant under his skin and removed it in a public bathroom. It was exactly the same in one of the NuTrek movies of his where that woman-turned-alien so easily duped the Enterprise into a trap. I’m 90% certain that the way he lovingly demanded excessive screen time and detail into the destruction of the iconic Enterprise was a deliberate proverbial middle finger to the fans. That and the destruction of Vulcan. Probably a few other things I’ve mercifully forgotten. His love of lens flare was obvious even in Fringe. Anyway I was growing increasingly frustrated during the third season, it felt like everything was coming off the rails and getting increasingly daft and nonsensical. In early S4 when I realised that he’d thrown away the original “blue” universe, the characters and events of all the previous seasons I was done. I did wiki the eventual ending some years later, and I remain proud that I parsed all the nonsense early on had the Observers pegged as the eventual “big bad” in… uh… I forget. Late S1 or early S2 when the Fringe team chased a briefcase but lost it to the bad guys *again.* I’m still amazed that one man managed to almost singlehandedly destroy two franchises I liked with Star Wars and Star Trek. Still, by watching Fringe we can boast of having seen Meghan Markle before she met Prince Harry. It’s just a shame she did something so bad behind the scenes that she got fired so fast that she was only in two episodes and the writing/production team didn’t even spare a line of dialogue to explain why her character disappeared. They just behaved like she never existed.
A neat idea would have been if the manufacturer of the Imperial Interrogation Droid also created the BB unit as a PR move to improve their company's image in the post-Imperial era, hence the overly manipulative and cynical attempt to appear "cute". It'd also explain why the Not-Empire uses the same type of droid, and why both styles of droid share the same basic spherical design. In fact, it's like you took one of those interrogation droids, stripped out the repulsors and just slapped a miniature R2 head on top of it.
That actually would make an incredible amount of sense... BB-9E really does just look like an interrogation droid without the needles, now that you mention it.
I imagine the empire had subcontractors in its more remote sectors, and the BB units could have been their attempt at pacifying New Republic leaders to avoid getting the book thrown at them during warcrime trials. Pull a ‘Nazi Scientists at NASA’ and explain how these firms and scientists from the Empire make their way into both government and corporate firms, and while some stay loyal, others end up supporting the FO/evil faction replacement and supplying these droids to them via shell companies and smuggling.
And tracks with the behavior of the actual Nazis. The V2 was a failure as a means of prosecuting the war. They were staggeringly expensive, one-time use, spent resources they had limited supplies of (including human lives, when you consider the death toll among the slaves they forced to build the things), and could never level a city the way a fleet of Allied bombers could. What they were was racist propaganda meant to prove the "superiority of German intellects." Similarly, Death Stars and their ilk are worthless as weapons. Once everyone knows you have such a thing, the galaxy becomes ungovernable. Everyone with any resources will gladly sink them into rebellion, as failure means your entire world is permanently at risk. And you can't just go around vaporizing every planet which rebels, because then you'll be left with an empire of ash unable to support your space infrastructure. All the Death Star does is make the Empire feel unstoppable. It doesn't actually provide unstoppability.
@@DIEGhostfish Except that doesn't work even in the real world. People keep committing capital crimes even when the punishment is death because deterrence is ineffective. If you want to prevent murder, improve people's material conditions past the point where murder ever seems like the only way out. If you want to prevent rebellion, be a polity which people have no reason to rebel against. But empires can't accept that. Because if they did they'd stop being empires.
@Frommerman Deterence is incredibly effective on a smart enough population, but needs to be increasingly swift as intelligence goes down and time preference shortens. Though not so much for the practice of basic sapient liberties.
@@FrommermanThe Death Star was more a political tool than a weapon, and starkiller wiped out the entire republic military (obviously awfully convenient for restarting a rebel and empire dynamic) but in universe these weapons were far from worthless.
They already had something that had existed unchanged for decades, and they just threw it in the garbage. As far as I'm concerned, if it didn't come directly from the Maker himself, then whatever the EU says is canon... for the most part.
@@FriendlyDarkwraith We can all agree to toss the hypno gun and the Hand of Vader into the trash can but with a few hiccups in a collection of 800 books the EU is a masterstroke of creation. It had less consistency errors across the sum total, which also contained around 1100 comics and 80 video games, than Disney had in a single trilogy.
Personally I'm not sure I buy the idea Disney was trying to go avoid doing anything the PT did. I think the explanation for Episode 7 is much simpler. Disney's main goal was to make money, so they wanted to make a safe movie, so they just made Episode 4 again. One revelation I came to recently, is the sequel trilogy is in fact not a trilogy and we should not be calling it such. Lucas made two trilogies and he planned at least some aspects of them from the start. The PT especially had to be done this way so it would line up with the OT. There are surprisingly few plot holes that result so I think Lucas did a pretty good job with that. Of course some details were obviously filled in on the fly... Darth Vader being Luke's father, Leia being Luke's sister were both obviously come up with when making the movies when they were revealed. As far as the ST goes, we see Rey's parentage flip flop in all three movies to being important to not important to important again, as an example. There was no big arc, just a desperate attempt in Episode 9 when Disney realized they had forgotten to make one. Without that big arc, that singular story being told over three movies, it's not a trilogy, just three movies ordered chonologically.
Obi-Wan just can't believe how badly he aged from the time of his adventure with Leia and Reva to ANH. It was only ten years but he turned into an 80 year old.
@@dudujencarelliExaggeration, yes, he was 63, but Ewan McGregor was 34 in ROTS, which means he was 52 by the time Luke turned 18 in ANH. That’s no 52 year old in ANH.
While most people were celebrating The Force Awakens, the moment they Killed Han Solo, and then when they land, Leia brushes right past Chewie to hug Rey, I knew they had killed SW. I had no idea that they were going to do the job so thoroughly that TFA would be by far the best of the three 😂😢. They excitedly killed one of the goldenest geese of all time.
True. That moment was bull***t. It wouldve shown a great arc for Leia. Remember when she couldn't stand to walk alongside Chewy? If she embraced Chewy in a big, sorrowful hug after Hans death, that wouldve been beautiful
@LukeLovesRose - Totally. And it would have *made sense.* Regardless of how she felt about him, she knew how He felt about Han. She knew Han trusted him enough that when he was going into the Carbonite, that's who he asked to protect her. She knew he and Han had rolled together for Decades. And, they knew Rey for about 3 days at that point and they choose to have Leia act like Rey's the one Really affected, TOTALLY ignoring Chewie. It's SO ridiculous.
@@SamM-gl9zc Leia gives Chewy a hug after they escape from the Death Star in A New Hope. When Han and Luke leave the cockpit to man the guns, Leia is left to assist Chewy in copiloting the ship. They experience adversity together and come through it, so she warms to him. It’s very simple writing but it works because it’s something we can relate to on a basic human level (or humanoid in Chewy’s case 😊). Then at the beginning of Jedi, they go to Jabba’s palace to rescue Han, with Chewy posing as Leia’s prisoner. To put themselves into such a dangerous situation together shows that their relationship is well established at this point and it’s obvious they care about and trust each other. Which only adds to the travesty you are referring to. With everything they’ve been through, Leia and Chewy would be the first to embrace each other and bawl their eyes out over their shared loss. The Disney trilogy disrespects the original trilogy characters and their bonds so much, it’s disgusting.
Harrison Ford would only agree to play Han Solo if he was killed off. He had wanted to be killed off all the way back in The Empire Strikes Back, which is why they put Han in the carbon freeze in case they couldn't get Harrison back for Return of the Jedi. Lucas himself planned for Solo to die in Episode VII, just as he planned for Luke to die in Episode VIII too.
the only possible solution for the invisible star destroyer problem in the beginning I can think of is that the light source is between the planet and the ship, somehow
Your thinking of lighting in atmosphere. In space there’s nothing to bounce the light around, at least not really. If you were looking flat on at a cube in space, with the sun ever so slightly to the front of you, you wouldn’t be able to see any of the cube at all, it would just be a ‘hole’ in the stars. In the shot with the start destroyer the sun is clearly somewhere in front of the camera and to the left, so the vast majority of the star destroyer would be in the “hard shadow” of space and would have no light on it at all. Granted, you should probably still be able to see a tiny sliver of the left side of the destroyer, but it’s hard to get that precise of an angle measurement from just that one shot.
My suggestion would be a sort of new cloaking tech. Imagine the threat and bsdassery of s fleet of invidible Star destroyers appearing out of nowhere. That way you can say it blends with the enviorment, but one got a bit faulty (Possibly still a prototype) and incorrectly adjusts to space. Temporarily giving it a dark haul.
True, but the "to-be-fair" part is that magic and mechanics end up being a lot more fun to mess with (and also impactful on the story) the more one tends to apply thought to them. Besides, Star Wars is actually still somewhat deeper than it looks.@@idiot_city5444
The R6 takes me waaaay back. Like reading cool Star Wars technical manuals in my Middle School’s library way back. Thanks for your thorough exploration of lore.
That Luke AI dream sequence was fucking great "my dirty hobo beard" hahaha. But its very true, the sequels in general really said "hey, the originals had WWII references. Lets do more of that!" And made star wars basically WWII in space even more so than the previous films, to the point that they disregard lore.
The key point is WWII *references* being the space battles, while politically being more of a Vietnam allegory, mostly because during WWII air combat was a new thing, so a lot of footage had been shot of it, while during Vietnam it was far more of a routine thing.
It's incredible how stupid the people at Disney are. They deliberately invented BB8 because they wanted a Disney princess and her animal companion in a Star Wars movie, then they acted like this idea was original...
I was reading the “expanded universe” books and comics as a young kid. The fact that Disney disregarded all of these stories is a spit in the face. It bothered me when I found out they didnt want anything to do with those stories, and I knew right then, how bad these movies would be.
I never bought or read another Star Wars novel after that and I had an entire bookshelf worth of them. Almost every book released outside of the youth oriented series. Hell, I thought the Han Solo Trilogy would have been great, they could have probably cut that down to 2 books and still done Rogue One with his ex. It would have been a big improvement on Solo and probably a downgrade on R1... but I'd habe been happy
And then even after insisting that the sequels were only as soulless and disjointed as they were because “there was nothing to pull from”, they go and grab EU character after EU character and water them all down and drain them of everything that made them interesting characters to begin with. Kathleen Kennedy and every single executive under her is fucking pathetic.
Lucas is on record as saying that the Expanded Universe did not fit his vision. It is in the same category as Disney's canon - ie not written by Lucas. If you want to get all fundamentalist about Star Wars then ONLY Lucas' work can be considered canon and nothing more. Personally, I think there is enjoyment to be found in the other stuff too.
The point about lighting is really interesting to me. I have a clear memory of when I went to see the Force Awakens in cinema for the first time and the opening scene of the First Order Stormtroopers in the landing craft left a lasting impression on me. I didn't realise what it was about it that felt so not-Star Wars to me, until you pointed out that it was really just the lighting doing it. I honestly didn't mind it on its own, and I actually felt excited that the movie was trying something new for Star Wars, but then it ended up being a remake of A New Hope with modern cinematography slapped on to it. I think it could have been interesting if they really would have pushed these new kinds off elements. But ultimately it didn't do enough of either keeping the old style or doing something new.
13:10 The solution for this shot would be another large body such as a moon casting a shadow on the ship leaving it in darkness while the planet behind is still illuminated. But why you want this shot in a movie? For all we know this is a foam cup someone tossed into space.
I think a lot of people were also desperately cooping with the idea that it is only "the first movie in a trilogy, surely the stupid will be explained in the next two movies".
When I read a comment where someone asked “how can the Star Wars universe be saved in the new trilogy”. It seemed impossible, but the only reboot I could think of to fix the mess Jar Jar and Basketballhead had left in their wake was to start the first episode for the new trilogy would begin with Luke waking up and realizing that the entire last trilogy was just a bad dream Luke had, then start a real story that makes sense and can fit as an actual continuation of the saga. No First Order, no Ben Solo, no omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent Rey Palpatine, since that is impossible because the Emperor was actually killed, permanently by Anakin’s sacrifice. When I saw your introduction as a fever dream by Luke, I had to laugh since that was the only way I could think to fix the mess Jar Jar Abrams and Basketballface Johnson had completely trashed. There is no way possible way to make any of that shit canon. It completely renders Luke and Anakin’s killing of Emperor Palpatine have any weight. For all of those Reylo shippers, Disney would sell off the rights to Rey and Ben to a company that will make RomComs starring Daisy and Donald. That’s the only movies right for their love story, not Star Wars.
I am of the opinion that now that ship has sailed forever, if they ever get involved in the sequel phase it will be to create a plot with Rey alone to try to make her less indigestible. But I highly doubt they will ever retrace their steps...unfortunately
25:00 before we move on from flashing lights, let me add another option to add them in a night scene: explosions. The shuttles or their support (be it the star destroyer or escorting star fighters) are blowing things up, the flashing lights to get JJs affect are the explosions coming through windows.
The funniest thing about inserting repulsorlifts into BB8 is that, yet again, there is a model of astromech from Legends (and funnily enough their own canon) that fits that file that Disney couldve used, kept the cute ball look, and make much more sense: The Q7 Astromech droid - it was a more experimental model made for use in the V-wing starfighters used by the Galactic Republic during the Clone Wars, and was literally a afloating sphere, with an astromech head as the top half They couldve easily made BB-8 a modernized take on the concept, maybe add the ground-based rolling as an emergency movement option for the lols if it lost repulsorlift power, or maybe it could spin like a top or something, idk Just wouldve made more sense
Thank you for being so responsive to your viewers. I very much look forward to Part 2 of this series. In the meantime, I will finish watching the Phantom Menace analysis.
We do try! There has to be a balance with getting the new videos made, but we genuinely appreciate the audience and like interacting with them. Several times in TPM, we've had to include a comment in the video because the guy made such a convincing and well-reasoned point. As for the next part of TFA, we don't have any immediate plans for a part 2 of this series. We're going to be working through the prequels and the OT for the foreseeable future, which is likely to be quite a few years. This video didn't do well in The Algorithm until the past couple of weeks, so I never finished writing the script for a part 2. I can't make any promises, but we do have plans for the occasional standalone video while we're in the middle of the AOTC series. It's possible we might use that bonus video slot for a part 2 of this. -DZ
I was always under the impression that the First Order was named that because it was Order 1 or Palatine's contingency Orders, for example the infamous Order 66. In the event that palatine was killed and the empire fell, and remnants were to enact the 1st Order, go into hiding, and rebuild an army to retake the Galaxy. But I could be wrong.
I always thought the same. Order 66, the First Order; it made sense that the similarity in the names wasn't a coincidence, and they both must have had their origins in long-standing plans of Palpatine.
@@Theanimeisforme Back when TFA came out but before I saw the movie, yeah, I foolishly had quite a bit of optimism. Not for the mouse per se, but I figured it was Star Wars, the stories can practically write themselves and it would be glorious to see. Certainly, at the VERY least I thought I'd see something that had, you know, actual thought put into it. And like 90% of the people in my theater, I left going "hnh, what just happened?" and in my best McGregor imitation, "I have a bad feeling about this...." Took me about a week of processing it and replaying the movie in my head to see just how misplaced that optimism was.
The First Order (apparently) derives its name from one of its early leaders, Grand Admiral Rae Sloane, who during a meeting between what remained of the Imperial leadership to figure out what to do after the New Republic took Coruscant said, "It's time to start over. That is our first order: to begin again, and to get it right this time." Which is pretty neat, but WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS?!
Well Lucky for you, you will never know. JarJar Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy said “what should we call the bad guys? The empire is already taken….um does First Order sound cool?”
I like that you're providing all the basic, appropriate counter points to enablers of this new trilogy. Some people get so caught up on just one or two things, but you seem to be catching way more than most critics do.
I personally think that yes while disney could not copy the EU for their movies, they should have atleast used it for the sequels. Even better, maybe put a actual star wars fan in charge instead of some bozos who have no care for the source material
As far as I know JJ actually is a star wars fan, but no in the deep lore knoledge kinda way, more in the look how cool it is sorta way. Thats why TFA and ROS felt like fanfiction, a what if the OT was EDGYYY. Look BLOOD, on his FACE, and instead of 1 planet FIVE planets and it destroys a star too. And what if palpatine ould summon an entire storm, extra evil ahahaha
All other shuttles/landing craft minus LAAT/i Gunships have seats. Those Gunships still provide artificial gravity/inertial dampeners, Clones use magnetic boots to help maintain footing and hand supports over head(although like we see in Ep2, getting shot may affect the dampeners and artificial gravity to help keep troops on, since one Clone and Padme fell off). Gunships were designed more for deployment in high or low altitude and not explicitly great or designed for the transition from space to planetary atmospheres (although they have been known to do that still).
The R6 has been my favorite R series astromech for ages, and while it's appeared in the background of a few pieces of visual media, it's nice to hear someone sing its praises and not completely ignore it.
The prequels were better than the sequels because it expanded the lore and told us about jedis and siths. All the sequels did was try to be the OT and nothing new.
A New Hope hasn't been called just Star Wars for a very long time, since The Empire Strikes Back in fact. Calling it Episode IV or A New Hope avoids confusion with the wider franchise.
You’re doing a much better job than Plinkett did with this movie. And the comedy is a bit more sharper and appreciable for it. I’m rather profoundly surprised that, for _ALL_ the people who’ve done in depth dissections of just this movie or drew comparisons upon it with other materials, I have _yet_ to see a single person make some kind of connection to Finn getting the handprint smeared on his helmet to _Wrath of Khan_ when the cadet does the same thing to Admiral Kirk!😟 What’s up with that?! It should be the most obvious joke to make at this turd!😒😤 We need another part of this and would love to see the other Mouse Wars films dissected!😢🥺
the stupidest thing about bb8 is the connection between the head and the body since the body can roll around in any direction the head cannot be connected to it there cannot be a rail along which the head rotates around the body in order to say on thop because then the body could only roll along that specific line lest the head ends up at the side this means that a) a lot of bandwith is wasted by having head and body communicate wirelessly and b) the head would be easily detatchable with minimal force it shows that no thought went into it beyond "wOuLdNt iT bE cOoL iF tHiS dRoId HaD a BaLl FoR a BoDy"
The thing about TFA is that it is a *product* designed to reach as many non-fans (who may or may not have some basic knowledge of the OT) as possible while offering enough basic "Star Wars" to scratch the itch of Fans just demanding an entertaining new SW-Movie. And, I have to admit, it works to an extent. It worked on me, for a while, anyway. TFA is well paced, features likeable characters played by likeable Actors, offers a well measured balance of Action, Humor, Suspense and Mystery, with a heap of Nostalgia, top-of-the-line Special Effects, a great John Williams-Score... and it left open questions many people (myself included) trusted the makers of the two following movies to answer in a satisfying fashion. In other words, it ticks a lot of boxes. And at the end of the day, at the time, I expected an entertaining movie and that is what I got. Sure, I could plainly see the obvious similarities to ANH but I shrugged and went "Ah well, guess they needed to play it safe at this point" and moved on. And when I'm satisfied, I don't ask questions. As I said at the start of this rant, its a Product. Its meant to be quickly consumed along with Pepsi and Popcorn by a (largely) non-fan Audience. Its meant to get you exited for the next Product. Since it worked for me for a while, I probably would have continued to consume without asking questions if TLJ hadn't appeared, pulled the wool off my eyes and broke the spell. So eventually, I started questioning TFA. And it ultimately doesn't hold up to even the slightest degree of scrutiny. It quickly falls apart once looked at even a little bit closer.
I always said after I left the theater for Episode VII that I would hold judgment until the next two movies came out for precisely the reason that I trusted that all the open ends would be resolved satisfactorily by the time IX was done. I was a young, naïve fool.
Yep I quite liked at first watch as well, it had some memorable scenes early on and I was really excited for the questions/vague misteries and how they would explore next movies, as my experience with the other trillogies I liked the early movies and their build up for the end of trilogy was the best part, so I expected so would be the case for the new trilogy...little did I know
My problem with the BB8 stuff was the inherent assumption that Rey had any more of a claim to him than the scrapper she essentially stole him from. There’s no explanation for why BB8 is scared of one scrapper and more accepting of Rey… and then they act like she’s more noble when she wanted to do the exact same thing with it. It makes no sense!
The funny thing with the lights in the assault barge at the beginning is that arguably, you wouldn’t want such bright light when your soldiers are about to descend on a part of the planet that is during the night.
This is such a great video that further depicts how much overall passion was put into the first 6 movies and EU in general for world building while respecting said-world. The fact that you're using ship schematics from books is another great reference to how much thought was put into those things before "the sequel trilogy."
I have been subscribed for a couple months now, and i only just noticed your channel picture is 2 mouse droids. I thought it was a face this whole time. Face looking left, with the front edge of the 2nd robot being the noose and the rear wheel of the front robot being the chin.
Well done! this is the first video i saw about any star star wars movie that covered so much lore and cinematic details for comparison (43 minutes long video and he's still not past the first 2 minutes of the movie)
Am I the only one who sees a middle finger when the Star Destroyer comes across the screen at the start of the film? I remember seeing it in theaters and my first thought being JJ flipping me (or George) off.
I don't even sit that deep in SW lore, just watched someone play Star Wars: Empire at War with some mod and talking lore in the background. And still when pointed out I realized WHY that's wrong, as that's where whey made all the cheese wedges
I like the name 'First Order' though, there is something esoteric and religious sounding about it, which is in keeping with the cult of worshipping the previous Empire.
Oh wow the AI Luke voice killed me. Great video, I really appreciate your work on SW. Also - I really enjoy the upscaled to 60fps scenes, just very cool.
The lighting of the start destroyer would only work if the blue/white object was a moon and the Star destroyer was between the camera and the moon, the Star destroyer would then have to be in the shadow of the planet and the camera would have to point towards the planet at an angle
This Is not true. I invite you to watch some videos of TPHM premiere. It was episode II love plot that was hated. And Hayden dialogue on it. By RoTS the fans were in love again. The hate came between 2006-2007, when a minority of people started hating louder, insulting both Anakin's actors, hating on CGI, many OT purists hating on the polítics aspects of the movies...
I know I’m a bit late to the party, but I got scared when I saw the thumbnail thinking you were talking about The Force Unleashed. Knowing that’s not the case, I can safely watch in agreement
Without a doubt, it may even be the name of Rey's part in the video. Would you believe you're the first I've heard mention the Nausicaa connection? -DZ
@@thebreadcircus can't believe that neither, they used not only the film but the manga as well, feeling super nerd and super happy right now. keep up with the content you have a great channel!
Well, to be fair, the ship at the beginning could be in the shadow of a moon of Jakku, in darkness and yet still able to occlude the light from the planet’s day-side.
I'm sorry, but saying it's "the perception of non-fans that the Prequels were disliked" really discredits this video. That's not a "perception of non-fans". Those movies were fucking DESPISED by fans, to the point that Jake Lloyd, a child, was bullied relentlessly by fans. Hayden Christensen, especially after Attack of the Clones was also ridiculed. Infact the only good things people had to say about Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones was that Ewan McGregor was great, Darth Maul and Qui Gon were cool, and the fight choreography was pretty great at times. Anyone claiming that the movies weren't disliked by the fandom, were likely children when those movies came out and either didn't read the discourse, or dismissed it due to them having a lot of nostalgia for those movies from seeing them as a kid. The most interesting thing about Star Wars is seeing over time how the discourse on the Prequels have changed. It's been so long that the canon it establishes is now just well accepted, but that was not always the case. The Prequels really messed with the Original Trilogy in terms of canon, from little things like Obi-Wan's age being really weird, to big things like the Jedi Order being this massive organization that seemingly everyone knows about, to being talked about in the OT like some ancient, small order that people only believe as superstition. This is by people who would have undoubtedly been alive when the Republic became a Galactic Empire specifically BECAUSE of the Jedi "Trying to kill" the Chancellor. These are not minor flaws, and were talked about extensively back in the day. But that was 25 years, and time has smoothed that over and now people look more fondly at those movies. But it was in no way just "non-fan perception", and to say that makes it seem like you weren't in the fandom 25 years ago.
I was always under the impression that originally the First Order was just the new republic navy separating and the first film was about the coup d’etat, lead by Kyle ren, least in initial drafts. Then Disney said make them evil so no one could sympathize with them and we got the star killer base. The second film seems to have ideas steering towards “Jedi and sith are antiquated and this religious war is annoying, that’s why we separated, albeit as sith,” but that was completely gutted except a few half statements. I really believe there was some sort of plan way back in 2013 or so, and had some depth that the films drew on such as Rey being a Jedi despite no ancestry (retconned), the new republic being weak (never mentioned), origin of the first order (never mentioned), Luke sick of the religious fighting (barely mentioned and walked back), and the abandonment of the Jedi/sith institution in the republic to abolish the caste system it included. All of this was probably considered too morally ambiguous for children and reworked in the first film to leave the second as almost a clean slate, which also ruined the finale since nothing was worked up.
On top of constantly consuming energy and processing power to balance a ball with weight on top, there is no way for a BB droid to use tools or limbs on parts of the ball that are not currently facing whatever it is trying to manipulate without moving the whole body. The smaller size is completely offset by it having to move a bit to perform a different action when R2, T3 and every other utility droid can rotate in place, while having more limbs facing the target to begin with. In fact, BB will have to math its way to anything to have the right part of the ball facing it. Defeats the whole utility part if you ask me.
The prequels were universally despised though. Idk how this keeps getting memory holed. Only super lovers, the same that defend Disney Wars with “I like it bc it’s more Star Wars, and I like Star Wars.” The others being kids that grew up with the prequels. I was 10 when episode 1 came out and loved it. When episode 2 came out I was 12 or 13 and without internet or critics to tell me it was bad, and my friends loving it bc “Yoda lightsaber fight,” I thought I was kind of over Starwars, but Episode 3 trailers come out and emo Anikan becoming Vader got me hyped again. I asctually liked it when I saw it, but I laughed at a lot of the dialogue and thought it was still subpar to the og trilogy. It wasn’t until I got more into IMDB and RU-vid in the early days that I found out how many people thought the prequels were bad for a lot of the same reasons people were hopeful of force awakens. I saw all of this bc I was the prime demographic for the prequels and I even thought they were bad and eventually stopped caring despite clone wars and stuff going on. When I heard Disney bought Lucas film I was excited for many of the same reasons you think are inorganic. Maybe a company with unlimited money and working with Lucas could make the follow up with OG vibe many hoped the prequels would be. Obviously we didn’t get that. I don’t disagree with what you say about the film either, just saying that, yes, a lot of people actually felt that way.
I think the sequel trilogy is terrible but saying that "You can't see anything" on the opening shots is really dumb to do. While the shots aren't really "Star wars"y (I don't like the way they used the flickering lights with the music they chose, it felt particularly out of place), they aren't BAD shots. that opening beneath the shadow of the star destroyer is perfectly fine thematically, the purpose is to hide a direct look at the ship for the purpose of suspense, but it still gives us a sense of scale on it. It's just some alright cinematography, with all the things to bitch about in the prequels it feels stupid to say "DISNEY FUCKED UP BECAUSE THESE SHOTS USE DRAMATIC LIGHTING" and to drag it out like this. it's just bitching for the sake of bitching.
The First Order is kind of a guilty pleasure for me and I honestly prefer them over the Imperial Remnant. The First Order had this sentiment of "We can't be weak like the Empire. We have to succeed where they failed." while the Imperial Remnant on the other hand is in a state of creepy denial. At least the First Order acknowledged the legitimate outcome of the Galactic Civil War.
That’s the thing though, The Empire just doesn’t seem like the type who would accept a defeat, no matter how legitimate, they’re like a faction who bought into their own myth that they’re too big to fail.
Great video as always but again I have to disagree with your intro statement that the EU (now Legends) was THE Star Wars canon. The EU was never a cohesive, unified vision like the films were. We got some great new stories and characters through EU books and games, but we also got plenty of lacklustre and controversial pieces of media too. The degree of canonicity also varied greatly from story to story, Lucas himself considered all these books and comics to be a kind of alternate version of his universe. So although its a rather narrow view of Star Wars media, I still hold to the belief that George Lucas created Star Wars, so something without George isn't canon. All the Disney media and the EU that came before are still pretty entertaining (although to varying degrees of course) and they can help fill in some gaps that inevitably appear when we think too hard about a fictional universe, but they all have to be taken with a pinch of salt. All these stories can be summed up as possibilities- maybe they happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, or maybe they're just what someone thinks might have happened. In the end Star Wars was George Lucas' vision, and no matter how much creative talent, money and top-notch acting you invest in a story, it isn't truly Star Wars without the man from Modesto!
A counter point would be the that the EU had plenty of simple or mundane lore that was consistent yet overlooked or taken for granted. Example shown are the astromech consistency, something some would not have considered. A classic example from EU that plays on consistency and rational that everyone and their mum wants to see was the appearance of warlords and Thrawn himself after the death of the Emperor. You cant label EU as never cohesive when clearly there are things that made sense in universe. Sure there are many poor stories that might not tie in together, but there are many parts that worked for people whether under the hood or within the story.
@@Theanimeisforme I think our views actually align quite closely! I didn't say the EU was never cohesive, rather that the EU was never a cohesive vision. Like we both mention there's plenty of good stories and characters in the EU, as well as a lot of the "mundane lore" which help fill in the gaps of the universe Lucas created. Thanks for reminding me about the astromechs too! They were great in the EU and I love what was said in the video about them. However, the opposite was true in reality- R2 and his counterparts were the most unreliable and costly parts of making the movies! R2 was constantly breaking down and would topple over or crash on almost any terrain. So I just think it's funny that in Star Wars the astromechs are the bee's knees but in reality were a nightmare to work with
@@TheanimeisformeWell among other things, the Warlord era doesn't really make sense or is that consistent with Star Wars. The films have outright celebrations on Coruscant following the Emperors death to apolitical Luke having a negative view of the Empire to the Rebellion being openly supported in material and soldiers to the point it was becoming a threat to the Imperial star-fleet in ANH and stood their own against them in a peer fight by ROTJ. Via Tarkin we know the plan to keep the systems in line, once the last remnants of the Old republic were swept away, was fear of the DS1 rather than the armies and navies of the GE. Pretty much every indicator we receive from the films suggests the Empire is A) unpopular to a wide degree and B) has force projection issues. So it isn't the most rational conclusion the empire could split apart into private fiefdoms and just continue on for another 30-40 years like the Eu postulates. Realistically, the Empire would either quickly dissolve like say the USSR did in our time line or quickly unify under a central leader and recover. Rather the GE survival post-ROTJ in the EU was motivated by a need for a recognizable bad guy than any consistency or realism.
