"So the only thing keeping you a Christian is hell? Would you be a serial killer otherwise!?" This is Jack Hyles we're talking about. I'm pretty sure he WAS a serial killer.
TriggerfingerTeddy I dunno about the serial killer part, but Hyles was accused (by other Christians!) of carrying on a affair with another woman for almost 20 years.
As well as endorsing physically abusing infants, covering for pedophile staffers and fathering a son who would have two children (one being the son of his live-in girlfriend at the time) die under mysterious circumstances: www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-2013/Let-Us-Prey-Big-Trouble-at-First-Baptist-Church/ But, you know, "Christians!"
Towards the end, he actually smiled when he said that sinners would still be in hell forever. He tried to hide it, but he actually smiled when he thought of people being tortured for eternity. I wonder how many preachers are secretly relishing the thought of hell, just like him.
Well, people like that justify people suffering. Friends justify their friend treatment of me that almost cost my life and caused lots of pain because i was unstable
The Lord God has indeed chosen the vast majority of mankind to burn forever, but know that it is Perfect Divine Justice. He has chosen his Elect, the remnant of a remnant of a remnant, to join him in Glory forever acording to Perfect Divine Mercy. Do not question reality.
@@MelancoliaI Actually, I will question what you call reality--with the Bible! Firstly, God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. We are also told to be perfect, just as our Heavenly Father is perfect--so if He is not willing that any should perish, we should not be, either! We are also told to love our enemies, and that love does no harm to its neighbor. Do you want the people you love to go to hell? You're supposed to love your enemies, too! Furthermore, we are even told that if we have not love, we are nothing--only a resounding gong and a clanging cymbal. In other words, you can say all the right things, but you're still nothing, without love! You remind me of the parable of the unmerciful servant. How do you treat people, in your daily life? Your political enemies, people who cut you off in traffic, your little nieces and nephews? How do you talk about people, when they're not around? I'm guessing if they heard you, they wouldn't feel loved. I said that the pastors relish the thought of people burning in hell, and you defended them. What were you feeling guilty about? How are you not loving people as you should? And do you actually love your enemies, or just say that you do? I once worked with an older guy, who said to me, "The worst thing I ever heard my father say about someone was, 'I don't particularly care for that person.'" And that changed my life. I decided right then and there that maybe I didn't want to go that far, but that's the direction I wanted to go in. I also thought of my so-called Christian relatives, who couldn't stop talking about their political enemies, and not how much they loved them! I have been a little harsh with you, I admit, but that's because I hope you're capable of so much better than I've seen out of you. "They'll know we're Christian by our love," after all. I love you, and I pray for you, and God bless. :)
It happened to me when my best friend killed himself. We were only fourteen, and my stepmother said he was in hell. It left me devastated and depressed for a decade.
@@tvmasterc I'm so sorry for your loss. That was so awful of your stepmother to say that, especially with how it affected you psychologically. No one deserves that.
11:15 Ah. Yes. The "The only thing that stops me from treating my neighbour in the most terrible ways is the fear from eternal torture"-type of Christian. The scariest kind.
I just want to say that you can believe in hell and still not be those types of Christians. For the record, it's not unorthodox to believe that God doesn't send anyone to Hell.
Of course. People like the idea of karma and the guilty being punished. So it works for that. But too often you get idiots like Estus that make hell the single solitary reason they're not snorting coke off a hooker's stomach and strapping people to the hoods of their stolen cars for a joy ride.
But in christian mythos, the god character is the most powerful being, yes? If the god character is the creator of all, how isn't it responsible for christian hell existing?
This fucking movie. That hippie guy was literally *preaching Christianity* and we never see him do anything wrong besides using slang that the moldy old preacher doesn't like and being slightly reckless on a motorcycle and they can only assume he'd go to *Hell*?!?!
19:20 "Estus, you have the bedside manner of a sociopath!" Heck, he might be one. Nothing about him really suggests that he's concerned about people, he might just be on the pulpit for the sake of having an audience.
The motorcycle death scene reminds me of the ending of God's Not Dead, where the characters preach to Sorbo, instead of calling the police or an ambulance, and then go to a concert. Is it against Evangelicalism to call emergency services?! Granted, an ambulance wouldn't have helped motorcycle guy, but his friend didn't even try to call the police! I assume his decapitated body was just left there for passerbys to be traumatized by
To be fair, the person calling 911 would be out of the shot and one task of clergy is to comfort the dying in scenarios like that one where the situation is deemed fatal.
Actually, the Bible never really talks much about hell... modern thoughts on it are largely based on Dante's imagery (the Italian author, not the demon-slaying one... probably).
@1Dudelove So Azrael from that deleted speech in the film, Dogma was correct after all; we really were responsible for turning Hell into a Suffering Pit!
Estus' version of Christ is the epitome of the meme where Jesus stands at a door that doesn't have a door handle on it, and says "Come let me save you" **and the person inside says "From what?" **to which Jesus' replies "From what I'm going to do to you if you don't"
great movie, side notes: everyone in the film is already in hell, reliving their sins, and the protagonist and antagonist are both the same person. there's a great documentary on it called 'building the inferno' free on youtube.
It's amazing that none of those women in the intro spontaneously combusted considering the amount of hairspray they had standing close to those flames.
especially considering (by the logic of this film) kind-hearted christians also go to hell if they believe everyone is a child of god or that scaring people with stories of hell isn't the way to go.
Personally, I think He'll is basically just being strapped to a chair while a 24/7 marathon of Christploitation films plays and there are no commercial brakes
Got to love it when these people admit they don't really believe in Jesus's teachings, though you so rarely see them say it so explicitly like that one guy admitting he's only a Christian because he fears Hell.
Jesus: "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the greatest and first commandment. And a second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbour as yourself.' On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." That Guy: "Ehh, I don't really believe in God and I'm too sociopathic to care about anyone else, but I guess I'll pretend to in case I personally end up in a fiery pit." Truly the best kind of person.
Hell IS the central teaching of Jesus, it is not found in the Old Testament. People think Jesus was this cool loving hippy guy but no, he gave us the doctrine of eternal conscious torment as the punishment for finite Earthly sinning, as well as the utterly wicked doctrine of "thought crime", the idea that thinking about sinning is as bad as actually sinning.
@@RoyUnit DARVO is a classic manipulator's tactic. "God loves you, so do not force him to burn you forever in the Lake of Fire!" is exactly comparable to "I only hit you because I love you."
9:30 reminds me of so many tales of douchprick pastors who would basically say this at a funeral. Sure, saying "they're in a better place" is only mildly better by being simple asspatting, but saying, "They're burning in hell" when in a time of grief...there are no simple words in the English language to describe how livid this makes me. On a good day, if I was attending a funeral and a preacher said that, I'd simply escort them out; even if they were the officiator. On a bad day, they'd have acquired a new bruise, on account of Mr. Piston and his backup band, the 5 Bruisers. Thankfully, for me and my record with any law enforcement, this has not occurred. I've lost. A grandfather, a sister, and a nephew. I see a funeral not as a place to be sad; going against tradition, but rather in the more contemporary sense to celebrate the person, whom they were, and what they stood for. Traditional funerals are boring, and terrible for mental health. Grieving certainly is a natural process, but there is a such thing as _positive grief._ Break out some music that respects their tastes, revel in the grand memories that were had, drink their favorite alcohol, and let the good times flow!
***** Well, first most funerals are conducted where concrete walls aren't easily accessible. Secondly, I've been raised well enough to have become a partial pacifist.
I like your approach to death here. celebrate the person in mourning. Throw a party in their name! I think some tribes on certain remote islands do this with their dead, the world could stand to learn from such a positive upbeat tradition. cheers!
I never quite understood why a God that supposedly loves us above all else would have us suffer for eternity for not believing in him in a roughly 100 year life-span
the god of any religion is just a placeholder for the individual, these gods existence is judging and hating others. In this case, estus pirkles' enemies and scapegoats.
Ironically enough, the man who played Moses was my pastor at church for many years. His name was Don Green. He just passed away less than five years ago and he has the dubious honor of having a bridge named after him next to the church he preached. I saw this film in the mid-1970s along with the counterpart called the believers heaven.
Considering what Estes's other friends like Dr Jack Hyles was up to, I was expecting you to list a rap sheet. Funny how God never alters other Preachers about guys like Hyles, isn't it?
I hope someday Brad reviews a movie called "The Black Gestapo". It's a blaxploitation film, A Naziploitation film, and a 70s porno all rolled into 1 gloriously bad package. By the director of Love Camp 7, another Nazi porno.
Yeah, we are pretty chill. Pretty sure the last time a Catholic made a Christian movie of note, it got praise. Granted, it was one of the most violent movies ever made, but still, at least it wasn't God's Not Dead or The Burning Hell or Bibleman.
***** Wasn't that during the McCarthy area where they lead witch hunts for commies? I don't have the history on Bradbury so if there was a joke there it went over my head.
What I found interesting was the scene where the two hippie Christians were preaching that the Lord is merciful. Then Perkle just seemed to slap them round the face and say "Well ain't that cute... BUT YOU'RE WRONG!!!"
Seriously? Messing around on a motorcycle for fun gives you a trip to hell? For all we know that guy could have been a scientist searching for a cure to cancer, a homeless shelter volunteer, and donated every week to his local orphanage.
9:43 "There will be no TV programs to watch, or movies to go see. There will be no cookouts to enjoy or sunsets to watch together." -Estus Pirkle "Do you know what happiness is? That is, May's bright sunshine. That is, the warmth of a family. That is, fried eggs for breakfast. But, there are none of those in Heaven. Do you know what happiness is? That is, having someone call your name. That is, calling someone's name. That is, when someone is thinking of you. That is, something God alone does not have." -Puella Magi Madoka Magica. Yes, an anime about Magical Girls has more challenging, insightful and eloquent things to say on the nature of the afterlife than an actual Christian preacher...
Holy Shit - Jack Hyles! My mom & stepdad went to his church from 1990 up until Hyles' son-in-law (who'd taken over since Jack's death in 2001) was jailed for having sex with a minor (2010ish?). I remember them taking me to church as a kid and thinking it was absolutely insane. They had a school and college that my mom had wanted me to go to (didn't happen, lucky me). My stepdad had attended since the sixties and I begged them both to stop going. They didn't listen, they'd been indoctrinated. The church had a gift shop full of religious paraphernalia and cassette tapes of sermons. They had bought dozens of the tapes and listened to them at home. Sundays were insane. They expected you to be at church nearly all day - well over 12 hours. Freaking nuts, the whole lot of it. I could go at length on the insanity of it all. Naturally, I'm now an atheist.
The Burning Hell seems like one of the perfect religious horror films Mystery Science Theater 3000(Specifically Joel, Tom Salvo, and Crow)should watch in the Netflix/Shout! Factory revival.
*ATTENTION ALL CHRISTIANS WHO TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE GOING TO HELL:* if you are a real Chrisian, you should never say that, because that will *Never* be up to you to decide...
I love how tame this guy's version of Hell is XD Buffy The Vampire Slayer has a more tormenting idea of Hell than these guys, and that show comes under the classification of comedy!
Yeah for every scripture states that every demon is terrified of the one they call the Doom Slayer and does everything in their power to end that monster yet all attempts failed.
This must be one of the best Snob episodes, I laughed at almost ever line, and they kept on coming and coming! Brad, not only do you have one of the sexiest voice on the internet, you are also a hilarious comedian and you made an awesome persona! PS I still can't believe you made a carrier out of reviewing movies me and my friends watched in our edgy teenage phase (I'm from Germany, so these movies where not really available here, but I knew a vhs rental store owner who collected such B-Movie stuff).
Technically all Christians believe in both heaven and hell, but some religious people are so obsessed with punishment it's a little creepy. And that's coming from a Dom.
I'm not sure where or how, but I remember someone pointing out people always would go on talking about Hell but rarely if ever you hear of what happens in Heaven.
@@FrenchPaul1988 Well probably because while Dante's inferno is really interesting, Paradiso is basically a tour of what they thought the solar system looked like at the time and it's pretty inaccurate considering going to venus wouldn't be a reward and that there isn't an unmoving band of stars out there. The result is not a lot that can be used since we no longer see the Heavens as being the Planets.
@@autobotstarscream765 We know that now, but Paradiso depicts Venus as a reward, not a punishment because they didn't actually know what the planets were like. Which was my point.
Fun fact: Berkowitz (the Son of Sam serial killer) identified as a "Satanist" during his murders, but now claims to be a "born-again Christian." If he's in Estus's church, it suddenly all makes sense!
-"I'm very hungry." -"If you are hungry, why don't you go to work and earn your own food?" Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that this is how most Republicans react to poor people?
Well, if you think that’s bad, Democrats, on the other hand, rely on government gloat and high taxes rather than physically help the poor. Regardless, I don’t think many politicians (whatever side their on) understand how to resolve poverty.
That's not Santa Christ. That's a demon posturing as Santa Christ! I'd bet that SC later punished that bastard by eradicating him from existence or having him reincarnate to try to do better in life (sending him back to Hell would be incorrect as that's the demon's home and he can break out of there to wreck havoc again. Plus, reincarnating can have him do things for the good of humanity and have him enjoy a good life. Santa Christ is a good and jolly guy after all).
'The Burning Hell', oh, so we're gonna visit Estus Pirkle at his current domicile? Sweet! 20:51 Satan gave Gotye the idea for the music video of Somebody That I Used To Know, apparently.
2:38 ah yes. Pontius Pilot. Well known for his skill in aviation. Not to be confused with Pontius Pilate from the bible. Totally different guy. The fact that they misspelled his name in the credits is beautiful on multiple levels tbh
The weird bit about these exploitation movies is that some actually paint Pilate in too positive a light even though early Christians were so afraid of the Romans some speculate that the book of Revelation wasn't scripture at all but coded messages to small churches.
This kind of approach does not bring people to Jesus. It can only drive them away. This man spent his life working against Christianity, which means that, according to his own belief system, he was allied with Satan and went to Hell. Say what you will about stuff like War Room, but at least it is primarily interested in providing hope and forgiveness, whether you agree with what it says is the answer for that or not. This, though, if God willingly sends people to that type of burning Hell, then God is not love, because only the worst people out there would send someone there. I always preferred the Charles Dickens version of Hell as shown in A Christmas Carol with Jacob Marley. That Hell has no pointless physical torture, save for the chains (which are basically just being used as symbolism in the book), but it is in eternal regret over what they could have done and are now powerless to do. It is coming to the end of one's life and realizing it was wasted, but feeling it forever. That kind of Hell would just make sense. If you go to the afterlife, realize Heaven was real, but do not get to enter it, you would naturally be filled with regret. It is not any kind of willful torturing, only the regret brought on oneself by realizing they chose wrong. That is simply my thoughts on the topic. I am not trying to prove anything or convince anyone of everything. I simply wanted to put the idea out there of a Hell not inspired by Dante's Inferno. I know this is the Internet, and I just brought up religions. I will only reply to respectful responses.
I know this is a year old, but, just wanted to say, I couldn't agree with you more. I personally don't believe in heaven or hell, there's just sweet oblivion when people die, but if i had to believe in an afterlife, the sort of hell you describe as just being filled with regret of things you didn't do in life would be enough, no fire and brimstone and maggots needed.
I do like what you are saying here with Charles Dickens because it is not that far off... according to Catholic theology, damnation is less God vindictively sending you into eternal punishment, but rather you being so fixed in your evil decisions that you reject him even in the afterlife. The idea is that God is always willing to forgive, but He respects free will to the point that he allows us to choose selfish desires over him, even if it means being incomplete for all eternity. It’s also the way that Catholicism deals with the problem of pain, God doesn’t approve of suffering and evil (which is a common criticism), but he allows it to preserve free will. If we didn’t have the ability to choose to do good or evil, we’d just be automatons and couldn’t really love. As a Christian, I hate these kind of movies... they actively drive people away and give the rest of us a bad reputation...
Paul warned us this would happen...he depicts the Devil as a Christian preacher fleecing the flock and pulling the wool over their eyes. His writings on the subject are responsible for such popular idioms as "wolves in sheep's clothing". The whole Bible has a theme of reasonable distrust for organized religion.
Funny enough, your interpretation of Hell is actually correct. Hell is actually a state of shame rather than a fiery torture pit. The Bible does use flame language but it also describes Hell as being darkness. Obviously these can't be true at the same time. The fact that contradicting imagery is used to describe Hell should be the biggest indicator that Jesus was speaking in his culture's dramatic orientation style. Another thing, the bit where Jesus mentions people weeping and gnashing their teeth in Hell, that's also a cultural reference. Weeping and gnashing your teeth was what people in Jesus's day did when they were ashamed of themselves. There's another indication that the flame language is hyperbolic. If you've ever stuck your hand in fire, the last you're gonna do is weep and gnash your teeth
I actually want him to review A Thief in the Night now. It scared the crap out of me in kind of the same way as a kid. Now looking back on it makes me strangely nostalgic.
You know what, I thought to myself last week, before I became obsessed with marble videos under the clouds, "The Snob needs to tear apart another perkel movie." and low and behold, another perkel movie on this show. God bless you Cinema Snob.
I didn't know Observer had a relative that worked in Hell! (Seriously, the whole Hell-as-fire concept that Pirkle subscribed to only goes back to _The Divine Comedy_, which was influenced by the Greco-Roman underworld. An idea alien to Scripture's original audiences.)
Totally agree, Herschal. It's really sad how sadistic BS like this Estus' imagination of hell has become the standard doctrine for the Christian faith (it's really a black eye for people who believe in Christ like me yet reject this abominable belief in an eternal torture chamber, and unjustly maligns God before atheists and seekers). I wish more people could see that this kind of crap isn't right.
Dart "Look Officer, I simply felt the most important thing was to check up on the fate of my friend's immortal soul. His body wasn't going anywhere...."